Windows Legacy Server

#RadMorning 30/04/2022 11:52

nice

#RadMorning

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Why is the text humongous

Because that's what the text in Windows 8 looks like?

#RadMorning

Because that's what the text in Windows 8 looks like?

Make it smaller PLEASE

I didn't install uDWM, this is a glitch I've found

oh

12:59

Btw check dm

#RadMorning

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Not offset left titlebar

13:31

hex part to edit for the offset. DO NOT SHARE IT AROUND

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the EF FF FF FF part

is that the already patched part

19:05

or unpatched

patched

19:06

with the text too close to the icon

19:06

with your caption buttons

is the EF the offset

19:08

also why is this person so fucking locked down

19:08

christ

yes EF is the offset

19:14

it's all 00 on the original dwm

239

19:28

Uhhh

19:28

fuck

19:29

one moment

ImSwordQueen

yes EF is the offset

So the signed/negative offset values would shift it to the left, while I presume 00-7F values of what seems to be a DWORD would shift it to the right.

what is it shifting to

19:33

honestly i wish i knew how to operate ida pro to look at this with the 7 uDWM

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and the 8.1 one

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oh shit still have ida

19:34

7.6

This patch is for Windows 8 right?

8.1

Or 8.1

DF goes more to the left

223

try FA

i was trying the funny shell32 rn but let me check that one now

how can i find a byte sequence in ida

19:36

actually better

19:36

an offset

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@Vruh 2

that's

19:37

pretty close

19:37

give me a sec

that's reeeeally good

alright

it's gonna be a guessing game

19:38

try F5

F5 (edited)

theme settings

19:40

it changed to the atlas image

So, presumably, 00 is centre, 80 would be farthest left and 7F... farthest right?

it would help to know 7's offset

19:41

why is task manager different

19:41

now that looks too far away

that looks like the theme atlas

19:42

the glow looks different

too close or too far

too far

19:42

want to try FA again

@win32 how do i look up an offset in ida

yeah too far

GetLeftOffset

19:47

that's literally the name of the thing

ping me when you find the value

uh

19:52

ok so getleftoffset does not exist in 7

19:52

so there is no value in 7

YES

19:55

THIS THING FUCKING WORKS

what

Bro

19:56

old copy dialogs ?

19:56

holy shit

yes

from what build

jevil is a madman

19:56

patched 9600 shell32

also there is no offset in 7's uDWM

literally my madman with ida found what calls the new dialogs

meaning you're gonna have to wing it

i'm... not going to do that

19:57

and instead going to the closest i will find

start with something absurd and work your way up

19:59

it'd be funny to find the function that handles caption button size

you could check with ida

it's probably not GetCaptionButtonBounds

literally ida can find debug symbols so you aren't going blindly

yeah i know

20:00

i don't know how to work with ida though

ImSwordQueen

literally my madman with ida found what calls the new dialogs

Impressive

ImSwordQueen

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also i see the older theme

20:12

you should get the newer one from rectify win

20:12

barely changes anything but hey

20:12

clearer "overlays" on the sides

can you send it here

20:13

cba to find it

I'm confident that making the caption buttons glow might not be so hard after all

pov

ImSwordQueen

can you send it here

sure]

so i can pin it too

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/921538345530695751/968664500842676284/Aero7.msstyles

ImSwordQueen pinned a message to this channel. 30/04/2022 20:13

Vruh 2

pov

They really simplified this in 8.1

no like

20:14

it never existed

20:14

in windows 7

In 8 it is structured differently, so it's more of trouble to locate the offset value stuff

this function never existed in windows 7

Especially with my rotten asm

if i were to bet the position of the text was still very much in win32k

20:14

hardcoded

20:15

because i'm pretty sure the position matches between basic and aero

20:15

basic does not use anything from uDWM afaik

yeah

20:16

basic matches aero

20:16

and aero matches basic

20:16

actually

Might wanna check both dwmcore and udwm

that's my bet

that's weird

20:17

because

20:17

the centering is being done on the theme for basic

only god knows how it's done in windows 7

20:19

but it doesn't matter in windows 8 (edited)

20:24

__int64 __fastcall CText::GetLeftOffset(CText *this)
{
  return -6i64;
}

20:24

it returns this with FA FF FF FF

CTopLevelWindow::CreateButtonGlowsFromAtlas @E2

20:31

does this interest you

20:32

of course it doesn't exist on 8's DWM

20:34

@ImSwordQueen if you feel brave

20:34

you can try FF

20:34

which is probably too much

FF?

but either way

20:34

yeah

@Vruh 2

20:37

too much

20:37

but without glass8 it was perfect

wait what the fuck

20:37

i thought it'd set it more to the left

20:37

one moment

of course

20:38

it doesn't render the blur

you have to count glass8 offset as well

ok so

20:38

223 is too "to the left"

20:38

239 is still too to the left

20:38

250 is too to the right

20:38

uhh

20:38

240?

20:38

no

20:38

we tried 245 and it changed absolutely nothing

20:39

now you see

going to try EF to see if anything changes

this is the moment i wish i had an 8.1 vm to try it out

20:39

EF was the initial value you gave us

20:39

239

i would add by 1 every time

20:40

so we don't go by random values

20:40

and we see how close we can get

20:40

throwing random values wastes more time

F0 240 F1 241 F2 242 F3 243 F4 244 F5 245 and so on (edited)

20:41

till F9

yeah

20:41

i saw that this changes something too

20:41

but idk to what direction

20:41

or where

20:42

when i modified it. it made the text disappear

255

20:42

don't modify it then

F0

20:43

it looks perfect imo

20:43

idk about you

check the other windows

5 (edited)

it looks like it uses the theme atlas image for the glow

20:44

which we know offsets it even more

so is it wrong still

20:45

it's off by literally 2px

20:45

try EF again

ok that's more tolerable

EF is this

️

20:46

and F0

20:46

on winver that is

the one i sent before

yeah uhh

is there something cursed about 239 that windows doesn't like

20:47

like what

the offset

but why EF

20:47

specifically

20:47

fuck i wish i had an 8.1 vm right now

yeah that's way better

20:48

i think i'm going to keep F0

keep F0 for now

because it's WAY closer than the fuck we had before

since anything lower just

20:48

springs the text to the far left

20:48

also did you notice something

what

monochrome cleartype on 8.1

20:48

what

wtf

you can see the text has some color on the antialiasing

20:49

on 7

20:49

can you try installing the 7 segoe

gonna check with 7 segoe

20:50

honestly

20:50

that's the closest that 99% people won't notice

text glows are impossible

20:50

no

20:50

no

20:50

caption glows are impossible

20:51

i'm taking a wild guess and i'll say they're handled in CreateButtonGlowsFromAtlas on 7

caption glows are like the reflections

20:51

gone

which doesn't even exist in the 8.1 uDWM

20:51

completely eradicated

pay win32 300$ to reimplement it

20:52

20:52

with the other functions as well

Vruh 2

you can see the text has some color on the antialiasing

Because that's cleartype/subpixel oversampling

20:53

The font has little to no effect on it

then cleartype changed from 7 to 8

20:53

simple

yeah

20:53

it did

No, that part is probably not rendered with cleartype

20:53

Just like UWP apps don't render text with cleartype

i'm pretty sure cleartype changed during 8 development

Still ClearType still has the subpixel oversampling thing

what are you guys doing currently (edited)

cooking 8.1

your...

why are the fonts still the 8.x ones

20:57

i hate

20:57

why the fuck

20:57

is it there now

why is the text so glued

do i have to restart windows every time to see the fucking change

holy shit

Vruh 2

why is the text so glued

good question

20:58

before it was fine like what

maybe you do need to restart to see the change

going to test FA again

20:58

i only killed dwm

do it

isn't that enough

Ok I see now. The 8 dialogue is such a lazy patch by Microsoft

no wait

20:58

what is the current value

20:58

F0?

20:58

try F5

Laterally locked behind a value

yes F0

then try FA

20:59

@E2 bro

20:59

again

I presume they made the old 7 dialogue a fall back one

i took a wild guess and i think the caption glow (edited)

20:59

is on CreateButtonGlowsFromAtlas

E2

I presume they made the old 7 dialogue a fall back one

yes

caption button glow that is

21:00

that isn't in windows 8.1's udwm

21:00

so like

ImSwordQueen

yes

It's literally a switch

you seen it on betawiki right? (edited)

the best of luck to you if you want to add it back

Yeah I am not the one to implement that anytime soon

21:00

I'd have to make it work with atlas stuff too

@Ximonitem plzzz

21:00

WHAT THE FUCK

21:01

i hate the fact

21:01

that xim on item makes ximonite

you hate the fact

yes i hate the facts

21:01

i believe in lies

21:02

welcome to. fuck me v2 @Vruh 2 (edited)

no than ks

21:02

i'm fine

not that

21:02

bru

21:02

Maybe 8 has more funny stuff like this. I will have to look later

that's wrong

uhhh so

i'm pretty sure

why is it changing back to the theme atlas glow

21:03

i'm fucking tripping

i don't

21:03

fucking

21:03

know

21:03

this is why F5

21:03

and restarting

ImSwordQueen

not that

trol

ok i'm not tripping

try a lower value

sorry xim for the ping

What is happening?

or rather

I got pinged

try fucking changing to theme settings

21:04

saving

idk what’s happening

and restarting

Ximonite

idk what’s happening

uhh

21:04

left alignment text offsets in 8.1

plz introduce glow on atlas thing

and that

that vruh2 is talking about

21:04

plz

@Ximonite CreateButtonGlowsFromAtlas

21:04

it's in 7

21:04

uDWM

21:04

i have no idea if that's the function that does it

21:05

i think it isn't

F3 and F4 are close contestants if my calculations are right

but it could be

21:05

bro

21:05

set the glow to theme settings

21:05

and save

21:05

and restart

IT IS

when you see the blocky ass glow on the middle

21:05

theme atlas glow

21:06

it's the old theme still

21:06

i haven't changed it yet

slight difference

21:06

same vm

try f4 or f3

no settings changed

i know

restarting with the F3 udwm

Lower better

bu

going for F4 or still

no

21:12

works

21:12

thing is

21:12

the icon is also offset more to the left in windows 7

21:12

️

21:12

good luck trying to change the offset of the icon

not

21:15

going

21:15

to do

21:15

that

21:15

going by text

21:15

so fuck the icon

21:15

F3 good enough

21:15

fuck you

if you want me to do some dll modding

21:15

I can eventually

f3 is good noeguh

not gonna do anything with dlls rn

21:16

pc not set up

21:16

cleaning my room

i didn't want to ping you rn

21:16

i saw you were offline

ximonite find the function in uDWM that handles button glows in 7 and add it to 8.1 troll

i wanted to ping ximonitem but apparently ximonite has all the letters necessary for pinging you

21:16

because that's how discord works

CTopLevelWindow::CreateButtonGlowsFromAtlas doesn't sound promising

make the buttons the right size trol

I have to port a driver from x86 to x64 myself!

ImSwordQueen

i didn't want to ping you rn

you didn’t ping me

21:17

I just decided to check discord

21:18

the first time yea was ping

21:18

but when I came back just now

21:18

completely random

oh

__int64 __fastcall CTopLevelWindow::CreateButtonGlowsFromAtlas(HTHEME hTheme)
{
  unsigned int v1; // ebx
  int *v3; // rdi
  unsigned int v4; // esi
  int v5; // edx
  int v6; // eax
  CBaseObject *v7; // rcx
  CBaseObject *v8; // rcx
  CBaseObject *v9; // rcx
  int v10; // eax
  CBaseObject *v11; // rcx
  CBaseObject *v12; // rcx
  CBaseObject *v13; // rcx
  struct _MARGINS v15; // [rsp+30h] [rbp-18h] BYREF
  CBaseObject *v16; // [rsp+58h] [rbp+10h] BYREF

  v1 = 0;
  v3 = (int *)&unk_7FF72FEA27C;
  v16 = 0i64;
  v4 = 0;
  while ( 1 )
  {
    v5 = *(v3 - 1);
    if ( v5 != -1 )
    {
      v6 = CTopLevelWindow::CreateBitmapFromAtlas(hTheme, v5, &v15, &v16);
      v1 = v6;
      if ( v6 < 0 )
      {
        MilInstrumentationCheckHR(5u, 0i64, 0, v6, 0xE4u);
        goto LABEL_12;
      }
      v7 = v16;
      *((__m128i *)v16 + 3) = _mm_loadu_si128((const __m128i *)&v15);
      *(_QWORD *)(*(_QWORD *)(CTopLevelWindow::s_rgpwfWindowFrames + 8i64 * (unsigned int)v3[1]) + 136i64) = v7;
      CBaseObject::AddRef(v7);
      *(_QWORD *)(*(_QWORD *)(CTopLevelWindow::s_rgpwfWindowFrames + 8i64 * (unsigned int)v3[2]) + 136i64) = v8;
      CBaseObject::AddRef(v8);
      CBaseObject::Release(v9);
      v16 = 0i64;
    }
    if ( *v3 != -1 )
      break;

lol

21:19

bruh2

LABEL_8:
    ++v4;
    v3 += 4;
    if ( v4 >= 3 )
      return v1;
  }
  v10 = CTopLevelWindow::CreateBitmapFromAtlas(hTheme, *v3, &v15, &v16);
  v1 = v10;
  if ( v10 >= 0 )
  {
    v11 = v16;
    *((__m128i *)v16 + 3) = _mm_loadu_si128((const __m128i *)&v15);
    *(_QWORD *)(*(_QWORD *)(CTopLevelWindow::s_rgpwfWindowFrames + 8i64 * (unsigned int)v3[1]) + 128i64) = v11;
    CBaseObject::AddRef(v11);
    *(_QWORD *)(*(_QWORD *)(CTopLevelWindow::s_rgpwfWindowFrames + 8i64 * (unsigned int)v3[2]) + 128i64) = v12;
    CBaseObject::AddRef(v12);
    CBaseObject::Release(v13);
    v16 = 0i64;
    goto LABEL_8;
  }
  MilInstrumentationCheckHR(5u, 0i64, 0, v10, 0xEFu);
LABEL_12:
  if ( v16 )
    CBaseObject::Release(v16);
  return v1;
}

bruh3

those 2 are the same function

brb inviting vruh 3

what is that

"CreateButtonGlowsFromAtlas"

21:19

from 7's uDWM.dll

21:19

which to be clear

poggers

does not exist in 8.1's uDWM.dll

skip epic pfp is back

21:20

pog

hexagonite we need CreateButtonGlowsFromAtlas

hexagonite lmao (edited)

lamo

lmfso

lmofa

lfamso

LMFSO4

skip

lfamso

or my favorite

21:21

LM

lamosfa

https://winclassic.boards.net/thread/1147/windows-file-copy-dialog-dwm

Windows 7's File Copy dialog on Windows 8.1 (DWM ON) | WinClassic

Well, it has happened. The Windows 7 file copy dialog is now available on Windows 8.1 without disabling DWM. That's one step closer to a 1 to 1 Windows 8.1 to Windows 7 transformation.

He made it return false, funny how simple that was

docR pinned a message to this channel. 01/05/2022 13:04

Simple on 8.1

13:05

On 8.0 its an another story

I thought changing shell32 on 8.1 was

?

yesn't

13:27

shell32a

Oh

or test mode

13:28

both methods work

13:28

test mode will make you not play genshin or valorant

13:28

so it's the prefered method

So call it shell32a.dll?

no

13:28

the unmodified version will be shell32a

ImSwordQueen

or test mode

i dont wanna do testmode

you have to do this on PE

I can do it from Vista trol

mintel

Link x64: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/750428401382195254/807216337230626816/9600_Confidential.7z Link x86: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747931949523402813/807243361110065192/Confidential_x86.zip Credits: mintel#9690 - x64 files gagwangyeon_978 - x86 files Cirrubec#9353 - help getting this to work Note: do it at your own risk! Note: only for en-US locale! 1. Download the files for your architecture 2. Extract the files to an easily accessible location 3. Boot into WinPE or WinRE 4. Open command prompt, in WinPE Shift + F10, in WinRE Fix problems > Advanced options > Command prompt 5. Navigate to X:\Windows\System32, (where X is your Windows drive) 6. Rename shell32.dll into shell32a.dll 7. Navigate to en-us, and rename shell32.dll.mui to shell32a.dll.mui 8. Navigate to the location where the files are, and copy shell32.dll to system32, and shell32.dll.mui to system32\en-us 9. Open the registry editor 10. Select HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE 11. Select File > Load Hive 12. Navigate to X:\Windows\system32\config and open the file "SYSTEM" (where X is your Windows drive) 13. Give it the name "OfflineSystem" (it doesn't actually matter but for clarity the name OfflineSystem is used) 14. Navigate to HKLM\OfflineSystem\ControlSet001\Control\Session Manager\KnownDLLs 15. Change the value of "SHELL32" to shell32a.dll 16. Unload the hive 17. Reboot to the OS 18. Open Registry Editor again 19. Navigate to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Windows 20. Create a DWORD named DisplayNotRetailReady and set it to 1 21. Restart Explorer

Jump

Go to message!

eh vista cares about registry ownership

I have ways around that

btw i have a thing to make you test

if i have 8.1 and 10 dualbooted, can i boot from 10 and do the stuff there instead?

the Door guy

if i have 8.1 and 10 dualbooted, can i boot from 10 and do the stuff there instead?

same reason as you can't do it on vista

ImSwordKing

Click to see attachment 🖼️

That's a lot of effort for a copy dialogue. I'll keep it stock feelscringeman

it's not that hard

13:31

btw

13:31

ImSwordQueen

it's not that hard

yes it is you mf

you can do it on hiren PE so it's not impossible for the average guy (edited)

the Door guy

yes it is you mf

Moreso inconvenient

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

do you see anything wrong doc

I've done worse

13:32

Ribbon on libraries? Or libraries style ribbon on 8?

not that

13:33

that's the distraction

@ImSwordQueen theres this one explorer glitch where i first open explorer it doesnt apply command bar

o.n.e thing (edited)

@ImSwordQueen ?

that's vruh2 theme being crooked

13:33

with ribbon

13:34

you got this close enough

yes

you fixed titlerbar??

i didn't

13:34

some chinese guy did

13:34

and that chinese guy did something for vista7 as well

13:34

which is....

ImSwordQueen

some chinese guy did

who and how

scroll all back

13:35

and you can see that i reverse engineered their mod

too many messages

@docR you had to kill vista7 when you had the chance to

13:37

now vista7 will take over vista

@ImSwordQueen send me the one thing i need for good titlebar

literally scroll up

13:37

you don't even have to scroll up that far (edited)

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

what is this btw

bruh

Vruh 2

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/921538345530695751/968664500842676284/Aero7.msstyles

ig this is the one?

13:46

wth

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

libraries

going to test a thing

ImSwordQueen

or test mode

https://www.osradar.com/how-to-enable-test-mode-in-windows-10 ...

roger

How to enable test mode in Windows 10 - Linux Windows and android T...

Osradar - Linux windows and android Howtos, Tutorials, Guides, News about Cloud en Devops , Tips and Tricks.

bcdedit /set testsigning on

14:53

there

14:53

no need for a whole article

15:02

ie framen't

ImSwordQueen

@docR you had to kill vista7 when you had the chance to

ngl thats cool though

but less people will go look real vista

17:13

well the extended kernel just needs to compete a little harder

17:14

i use real vista

same

but if it gets drift correction and support for newer display drivers, that'll open the door to way more people

17:14

so they can use it too

17:15

so win32 fixes those hurdles, or more people go to vista7 trol

i just got a free server 2012 R2 product key yahoo

congratulazione

thanks now i can sate all of my server 2012 r2 standard needs

18:12

but activated troll

ImSwordQueen

but less people will go look real vista

half of the computers today can't run vista (edited)

18:22

7 on the other hand

ImSwordQueen

that's vruh2 theme being crooked

again

18:23

i compensated with the thought that you're gonna use the theme with O.N.E

ImSwordQueen

with ribbon

*

18:36

literally i know

this image without the watermark could fool a lot of people

Recycle what?

Recycle

ImSwordQueen

this image without the watermark could fool a lot of people

i see you moved to the new theme

21:10

good

21:10

change glass geometry

? @Vruh 2

21:12

did i fuck something up in the theme

holy shit i thnk i did

21:12

fuck

installing wmf 5.1 on my 8.1 install so i can have powershell 5

09:35

i need it for something and can't be bothered to have 2 versions of powershell if i install v7 separately

09:37

balling

real

09:38

Real

that's true

09:40

i hacked elon's account

brb hacking elon musk's bank account to buy this /s

with the amount of money Elon Musk has, you could buy a ton of Jupiters

nah, i could buy the entire galaxy

09:45

/s

skip

i need it for something and can't be bothered to have 2 versions of powershell if i install v7 separately

it worked

10:00

i can now use cool spotify adblock scripts

10:04

day 2 of using 8.1

...8.1 Embedded Industry Pro. is it working well?

yes

10:08

quite so

10:09

in fact it runs better than fully updated win7

10:09

running spotify and discord at the same time not even using 50% cpu and this is not a very powerful laptop

10:10

nice tabs over there

it's just qttabbar

10:13

i prefer the tabs on the bottom

nice 9431

"9431"

chunky sys tray

how

13:02

ownage

ImSwordQueen

chunky sys tray

happens on windows 7 also

paint.net stopped supporting 8.0 when they released the app on the microsoft store... seems sus

19:26

man.

woman

@RayZen

15:48

YES I REMOVED IT

15:48

NO MORE USELESS BUTTON

WHAT THE FUCK LMAO

what are those icons?

a

16:23

a nuclear warning

16:23

W I D E W I N D O W S 8

16:23

a satellite trying to communicate with aliens

16:23

settings

ALMOST

16:37

ALMOST GOT IT

the windows 8 is finally gone but the color is off quite a bit

make it straight up not use the accent color trol

17:16

like in the actual builds

i don't even know what uses for it

17:20

for now

17:21

i'm going to remove the windows 8 thing from it

17:21

so it looks full quality

17:21

and probably later will try that

17:24

@Scamdisk you asked for it trol

damn

now going to remove the color from it

17:27

btw the search icon is gone too

17:27

i removed it from the start screen uifile

17:27

so 8.0.1 can exist now trol

ah yes, 8.1 rtm moment

i wonder why they released 8.1 rtm in the first place

17:28

it's just 8.0

17:28

but with a start button (edited)

they had to release something to ya know

17:28

undo the damage

RT start menu

if they released that instead of 10

17:29

it would had undone the damage

windows 11 wouldn't be a thing

17:29

good for me

17:29

Same

time to learn time travel

17:30

and delete the guy who was in charge of windows during 2014-2015

ah yes

Tell Satya Nadella to not do any Windows releases past 8.1 and not do Windows as a service

17:30

Issue solved

17:31

And if he doesn't agree... troll

delete him from the timeline

Yes

That would fix Windows 100%

fun fact: MS wanted to waas with 8

waas 8

death

the worst timeline would had been NT 5.1 waas

17:34

the timeline where vista never happened

17:34

waas vista

17:34

imagine

Windows 98 WaaS troll

waas vista would had just led into 8

17:34

skipping 7 entirely

i remember someone

17:34

doing mockups

17:34

that vista was waas (edited)

17:34

and 7 never happened

17:35

so 8 had 7 stuff

17:35

or something like that

like 7 was let's say, a stopgap release

an awful one at best

if vista succeded, they would had went straight into 8

they made 7 too good

RayZen

Windows 98 WaaS troll

Considering 98 was so internet themed, it wouldn't have been too far-fetched if internet was fast enough back then

even with libraries

17:36

they had to nerf it with libraries

17:36

and this is not a joke

17:36

try removing libraries

when the so considered best version of Windows is a stopgap release

Damn

because thats what 7 feels like

Well 7 is overrated anyway so eh

tbf

17:37

it isn't that overrated

17:37

it has charm (edited)

XP and 7 are the most overrated releases if being honest

XP yes

17:37

7 a little less

add 95 to the stockpile

but still overrated

revolutionary, yes

They mainly have their love due to looks and oldness

that's basically why vista is famous rn?

17:38

for the looks

Yeah

17:39

That's why Windows 2000 and NT 4.0 are typically ignored

tbf

17:39

windows is only famous because

17:39

looks

17:39

and compability

Yeah

but tbh, 98 and ME, hell, even NT 4 replace 95 outright for me (edited)

i mean

17:40

everything is good than 9x

17:40

9x was really below avarage

well 95 is the lowest for me tbh

17:41

so low that ME is much higher up than it

ImSwordQueen

9x was really below avarage

Well 9x only existed because Microsoft was so messy back then

i mean

17:42

not really

top 4 9x releases 4. Windows 95 3. Windows 98 FE 2. Windows ME 1. Windows 98 SE

9x was their main OS at the time

17:42

NT was second

well NT wasnt ready for consumers at the time of the early to mid 90s

17:43

but by the late 90s? yeah, 2000 Personal should had been a thing instead of ME

Scamdisk

top 4 9x releases 4. Windows 95 3. Windows 98 FE 2. Windows ME 1. Windows 98 SE

Windows Me is the best 9x release IMO, its the most stable one in my experience

microsoft was too scared about releasing 2000

17:44

that they made neptune and odyssey instead of merging them from the very beginning

but then they merged neptune and odyssey into ya know what

Scamdisk

but by the late 90s? yeah, 2000 Personal should had been a thing instead of ME

Well they sorta did it by making people use 2000 because Me was unstable at launch, there were people who stayed on 98 ofc

also ME was in development during neptune

17:45

so what the actual fuck did microsoft smoke

MS at that time was a much of a mess as it was in 2019-2021

2022*

17:46

still a mess

except they released a thing between 98/2000 and XP

we got

17:46

windows 10 vibranium

17:46

windows 10 iron* (server only)

unlike there's nothing between VB and CO client wise

windows 11 cobalt

honestly iron should had been the 10 21H2

windows 11 nickel which i don't even fucking know if they are releasining nickel or not

they are defo releasing it

the thing is

17:47

why is it releasing before fall

and copper which is server only for now

17:47

and zinc in le planning stage

hell the H2 does mean nothing now

ImSwordQueen

windows 10 vibranium

Windows 10 Manganese too

nah, they gonna sign the final build number now and they wont release it outside insider until fall

yes we are releasing the second half of 2022 update in the first half of 2022

Also what happened to Manganese

that became nothing

death

It just existed and that's it

it was going to be 10X

17:48

but well....

no?

wasn't 10X based on manganese?

17:48

or smth

iirc 10X could had been cobalt

17:49

iirc some nickel based 10X builds were compiled but never flighted

Iron and Cobalt got their releases but Manganese didn't even though it had good time to get released in between Iron and Cobalt

iron never released outside server

17:49

this is the first time in over a decade that

17:50

microsoft released a server release which isn't tied to client

inb4 the next server release will be tied to client again

i wonder if microsoft got reset in 2020

17:50

and went back to 2000

17:50

hell they fucking repeat the same bullshit as they did 20 years ago

Well next server release we know is gonna be zinc

tbf

17:51

we don't even fucking know at this point

not sure, but very likely

microsoft has been unpredictable when 11 got announced

once cu_release client builds get into public insider, server insider is gonna go to zinc (edited)

for most stuff

i mean we know server skipped over ni_release

17:52

so it coukd skip over cu_release too (edited)

they have been on redstone during that time trol

fun fact: waas Windows was always a mess like that

ImSwordQueen

microsoft has been unpredictable when 11 got announced

Well ever since they began making builds that weren't tied to any releases

honestly

17:53

what the fuck does rs mean

TH2 development started before TH1 was even done

is it supposed to be redstone?

17:53

reeesus?

Windows 10 2004 is basically the last Windows 10 release that isn't weird or stupid

not really

17:54

1903 is

Honestly, yeah

after 1903 weird shit started happening with 10

Was also the last 10 release I ran on my PC

same

17:55

as my main though

17:55

i still used 10 as dualboot since recently

17:55

like

17:56

8 months ago at this point

if you think today is a mess

RayZen

Was also the last 10 release I ran on my PC

It didn't perform that badly even when I had 2 GB of RAM

here's the earliest known th2 build

17:56

10.0.10060.0.th2.150409-2138

server right?

well thats the earlier th2 tag we know of

Scamdisk

here's the earliest known th2 build

literally before th1 was even done

17:57

th2 already started

that's kinda what ms does

17:57

hell

Windows 10 stupidity is eternal

7 wasn't done when 8 started development

but 1006x wasnt rc whatsoever

idk about vista and 7

because they usually start new releases during the rc phase of another

17:58

well they did at that time

probably testing the new branch?

17:58

we might never know

well unless 10060 th2 leaks

basically

17:59

never

17:59

or in encrypted esd

18:00

so basically never

theres a reason we will never get 989x

encrypted esds doom

18:01

basically a fuck you for beta preservation groups

18:01

and leakers

also we havent gotten any testsigned 10 builds aside from the fbl_partner_eeap ones (edited)

man hoping that the main encryption key for esds gets leaked

18:02

that generates the main keys

so some of those unencrypted builds that we have finally get decrypted

color has been fixed somewhat

07:42

now to the awful alignment

ImSwordQueen

test mode will make you not play genshin or valorant

i had tested that out and the game works fine even with test mode on

08:08

cuz it doesnt actually prevent these games from running

08:08

well was thinking EAC was gonna shit itself seeing that enabled

barisberat

i had tested that out and the game works fine even with test mode on

08:12

dies of cringe

08:12

YES

08:13

I GOT IT

08:13

TO FUCKING WORK

08:13

FUCK YES

08:13

it took so fucking long jesus

Congratulations on an impressive accomplishment

i think i'm the first one to actually mod this fucking logo

Yeah, you indeed are

without the 8 one taking over after

That overlay flag was quite an annoying thing

absolutely a mess to work with

08:17

a 9/10 match

08:18

i'm going to clean the absolute mess i've done

08:20

this is what with the white logo looks like

08:20

a mess

ok i should not touch the cursed code

08:32

it absolutely dies if i touch it

welp this is unfortunate

08:41

i lost the power button

i noticed that 8.1's twinui has the button icons for maximize on metro apps

hmm yes, unused stuff

i wonder if there are RT start screen leftovers on 8.1

12:00

if the windowed metro apps still have leftovers so probably there might be something

the fact they decided to release the start menu update where it wasn't even needed

RT

8.0 osk moddable omg

unknown.png

8.x*

12:11

jk the error still shows up even with the og bak

12:14

and that does not work

12:14

pain

i was going to mod van.dll to make it a small box

20:21

but i don't even know

20:21

why is it formatted this way

20:21

microsoft why

apply these 2 via customizergod > start button

20:46

will replace this

20:46

and this

20:46

charms bar coming soon

Oooooh

22:06

Thank you!

22:07

I was going to make my own images for that, but this will fit perfectly ^^

ok the only time i nuke the store completly

12:09

all metro apps work

12:09

get fake

what the fuck

15:51

apparently everything is disabled

15:51

what the hell did you just do

15:52

port 8.0 settings to 8.1

IDK

15:52

i was cooking 8.1 settings

15:52

while not having winstore

15:53

and this showed up

15:56

damn

15:56

937x pc settings doesn't show up

15:56

death

fuck

docR pinned a message to this channel. 05/05/2022 16:42

patched twinui (read under this message for the list of changes) (edited)

twinui.7z

3.05 MB

18:20

includes: Removed search button from the start screen Removed charms start button animation (had to remove it or would glitch out the logo) Replaced some icons with the Developer preview counterparts Removed search button from the start screen Removed charms start button animation (had to remove it or would glitch out the logo) Replaced some icons with the Developer preview counterparts replaced the 8.1 start button with a similar DP one. (edited)

man pirates are so nice. they already put the 7 orb inside with this totally legit copy of sib

17:31

so i don't have to replace them myself

17:31

how nice

17:33

i can't use a legit copy because of the sig check whyyy

and i found out that even with the patched sig one it still requires patching to make it work

the damn dreaded sig check

ty tihiy for not supporting multiple dpi bmps

17:51

or multiple start buttons at the same time at all

wanted 8r to have big and small buttons without going into sib settings

17:51

obviously sig check striked

pirated as well?

17:51

because that's what does it trol

well yes because uhhh

i have to find what actually patches the thing to make explorer boot if modified

17:53

because the start button isn't right

17:53

you gotta like disable the patchguard and shit

17:54

and honestly idk how to asm

17:54

or more acuratelly, idk how to ida

17:55

3confusing5me

brb asking ximonitem

isn't 64bit 3muchbit5xergonite

17:56

oh wait

oh shit

17:58

you might be right

obv the images make it impossible to find what changes

@ImSwordQueen repack?

20:18

yeah, i have start10 and i have so many orbs

20:18

repack by tyran i believe

Deleted User

@ImSwordQueen repack?

of what

startallback

that's sib

20:19

not sab

ah startisback

20:19

still nice

https://github.com/nptr/msstyleEditor @ImSwordQueen

GitHub - nptr/msstyleEditor: an editor for windows visual styles

an editor for windows visual styles. Contribute to nptr/msstyleEditor development by creating an account on GitHub.

22:39

ayo

hello

22:39

what's up

this looks p similar to wsb

i'm talking about arson

22:39

yeah i use that for making ribbon centered on 8.0

22:39

on the 7 theme

microsoft are sick idiots

02:53

what happened with GetLeftOffset

02:53

why was it even implemented

02:53

why did it have to change from 9200 to 9600

02:53

not complaining about that but like (edited)

02:57

i spy with my little eye...

02:58

a very familiar byte pattern

02:58

let's see 9600, what do you have with that

02:58

uhhuh

02:59

i think i found it

02:59

i just need to test it

02:59

@ImSwordQueen is this it

03:00

are we getting a left align patch for 8.0

03:02

if it's actually this i'm going insane

ok good it isn't

Vruh 2

i spy with my little eye...

remind me to not look at byte patterns

03:39

because this byte pattern appears quite a lot in 9200's uDWM

spoiler getcaptionbuttonbounds does jack shit

05:46

I have my doubts in the caption button sizes being in uDWM

ImSwordQueen pinned a message to this channel. 08/05/2022 13:57

read what i changed before hand

ImSwordQueen

man pirates are so nice. they already put the 7 orb inside with this totally legit copy of sib

Can you send that middle orb? Been trying to find one like that with good padding

which one

14:01

the number

14:01

the middle is here

14:01

@docR

Ughhh. True

14:03

The squared logo in shiny orb

oh the 8.x logo inside the 7 orb

14:03

right

14:03

let me turn on the vm real quick

gee i wonder why cursed orbs keep getting shipped with sib/sab

14:04

this is beyond cursed

also the first release of sib

14:04

has the sib orb with the cool shit

14:05

meanwhile the other orbs cannot do the same shit

right, the orb that properly adjusts to taskbar size

14:05

and position

only sib has it

14:05

sib++ doesn't

does sib+ have it tho

14:06

doubt it

meant sib+

14:06

my bad

14:06

@docR

og sib had the sib logo orb too

yep

14:07

and actually

14:07

his orb was inside sib dlls (edited)

14:07

so good luck removing it

which have checks

14:07

i wonder how the pirates managed to modify it

14:07

actually

14:07

nvm

14:08

probably they just updated the signature check

ImSwordQueen

@docR

Thanks

@E2 maybe this'll give us a clue as for the caption button sizes

19:14

actually no it won't

19:14

i forgot these builds literally have no symbols

19:15

would be pretty cool though

check every debug builds

all builds after 7875 have the smaller buttons

19:15

all of them

i'm pretty sure

19:16

that you can still check (edited)

7875 has a chk compile however

19:16

7850 afaik doesn't

19:16

NO shit sorry

19:16

7850 hasa chk compile

I think 7850 has x64 symbols available

yaeh but 7875 doesn't

19:21

matter of fact

19:21

there isn't a close build to 7850 with symbols available

E2

I think 7850 has x64 symbols available

trippy downloading symbols for 7850

docR pinned a message to this channel. 08/05/2022 19:37

19:37

WHAT THE FUCK

19:37

WHAT THE FUCK!!!!

so idea

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK!!!!

we need an orbs channel lol

i'm going insane

19:37

don't mind me

19:38

why was this fucking function

19:38

DEPRECATED

19:38

AND BROUGHT BACK

19:38

god ms were maniacs (edited)

Hm.. this is getting weird

19:46

Really weird

19:47

8's symbols might very well be half-baked

19:47

Can you screenshot the contents? (edited)

19:48

Also, mind taking a look at 8102, 8250 and 8400?

19:48

8888 is probably void of symbols

it's a chk build

19:50

soooo

19:50

let me check

19:52

i don't know where the symbols are located

19:52

ImSwordQueen

i don't know where the symbols are located

send the udwm

E2

Can you screenshot the contents? (edited)

it can't be

uDWM.dll

1.79 MB

i can't find any trace of similar byte patterns for getleftoffset

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

is it x64

yes

19:55

also chk

it has no pdb's

19:56

atleast on the ms server

19:56

8400 please

uDWM.dll

719 KB

no sign of getleftoffset

19:59

8250 perhaps? @ImSwordQueen

uDWM.dll

681 KB

20:01

need 8102 too? @Vruh 2

no signs of getleftoffset on 8250 either

20:02

honestly

20:02

no

20:02

@E2 unless you want to investigate too

and i wonder

That looks like one of the 8 RTM functions that had udwmtextaligned referenced (edited)

20:24

Also, I will be fully getting into this once I'm done with exams

yes it is (edited)

E2

Also, I will be fully getting into this once I'm done with exams

when is that

Mid june maybe

20:26

Yeah, I also should be working on them instead of chatting here troll

hmmm

20:27

this sounds awfully like what centers the title in 8.0

20:27

atleast the behavior

20:28

if the left offset is 0 or less then 0

20:28

then it sticks to the left

20:28

aka

20:28

v8 = 0 (edited)

Make the move

not sure how would i do the move

20:28

but

20:28

i need 8.0 on a vm right about now

In what manner is getleftoffset patched?

one moment

That's where you probably take inspiration from

well i make the ENTIRE function return 0

20:29

or a negative offset

20:29

except this is on another function

20:29

i'm not sure it would be ideal to make the entire function useless as it might be important for something else

20:29

i could try to make v8 be 0 at all instances (edited)

20:29

and then we'll see what that does

Well, can't help but experiment. I do suspect getleftoffset IS in 8, but the symbols are probably botched

i doubt it

20:30

there are no hex patterns that match getleftoffset on 8

20:30

at all

20:30

i can't find instructions similar to what you would expect of that function

20:31

generally getleftoffset is close to UpdateGlows

Well, contents of functions are bound to change. You never know if the patterns are supposed to match

thing is

20:31

it barely changed from 7850 to 8.1

20:31

the function is almost the same

But you do locate the pattern?

here's the thing though

20:32

i can't find any instructions that match up getleftoffset

20:32

comparing to 7850

20:32

and 9600

20:32

not even a weirdly named function

20:32

it could very well be that this function just ended up on another one

20:33

got obfuscated, etc

Idk then. I have to take a look myself, instead of theorizing

20:33

Very possibly (edited)

you could take a look at it rn

20:33

Rn my bed's calling

20:34

Well, if I find any free time, I will. Gn

gn

why

the 2 assembly men offline (edited)

are you sure that the dll isn't read only

Negative

21:21

It is

21:21

It is

21:21

It is

21:21

Fuck

21:21

Fuck

vruh

21:21

2

broo i swea ron ,y ufkcing timberlands

didn't that work

well thing is i thought it was my patches fucking up somehow

21:29

and i undid everything

bru j

@win32 bro you on

Now I am.

21:54

so @Vruh 2 the earlier builds with symbols lack this func?

7850 has it

21:55

8250 and 8400 both lack it

21:55

8888 has no symbols but it should be the same

21:55

my thought is

21:56

if you want to take a look at these files yourself

21:56

uDWM.dll

404 KB

21:56

7850's udwm

21:56

9200's udwm

uDWM.dll

738.5 KB

21:57

both have symbols if you want to look for it

I see that there are some massive changes between those two

23:00

So many other functions called in there are also gone

no shit

23:06

or

23:07

uDWM-9600.dll

824 KB

23:07

you can compare these 2 @win32

23:07

9600 and 9200

23:07

i think it would be closer

So I can see that the common denominator here is a class called CText, and this function offsets some members of it.

01:31

A few things got shuffled around between 7850 and 9600, but not all.

01:32

And I believe we've found our inlined GetLeftOffset in 9200:

01:33

As you found earlier, of course.

01:39

Around here to be exact. The offset seems to be deposited in edi.

01:43

To be more specific, this seems to be the entirety of GetLeftOffset(). You can replace everything starting at 1800173BAh and going down to right before 180017421h to be equivalent to the existing patches.

holy shit

01:46

i found it then

01:47

THanks win32

01:47

you tha man

win32

To be more specific, this seems to be the entirety of GetLeftOffset(). You can replace everything starting at 1800173BAh and going down to right before 180017421h to be equivalent to the existing patches.

so just

01:48

xor eax eax retn?

01:48

or mov eax eax retn

01:48

i forgot what the existing patch is

retn will not be suitable. As it stores the value in edi, you will have to put xor edi, edi and nop everything else (and preferably a jmp to 180017421h so it skips over the nops)

alright

02:01

i got to try this

02:02

ok i'm in the function

02:04

this entire section?

02:04

i'm kinda confused

02:04

@win32 explain a bit to my dumb brain

jmp 180017421h

@ImSwordQueen

aeroglass for win8

win8_x64_1.3.7z

734.73 KB

02:13

and this too

setup-w8-1.3.exe

1.68 MB

uDWM-Patch.dll

738.5 KB

Vruh 2

@ImSwordQueen

goddamn, nice

Vruh 2

@ImSwordQueen

By doing this, you have also removed a dependency on SSE2 in the OS.

06:59

so this patch would be required for running windows 8 on sse or lower

Wait

07:06

how is udwm involved with the sse2 requirement

Vruh 2

@ImSwordQueen

Congrats :)

win32

By doing this, you have also removed a dependency on SSE2 in the OS.

And whoah, what?

momentum

Now

08:16

The only piece missing is

08:17

Van.dll

08:17

And authui but ehhh

win32

To be more specific, this seems to be the entirety of GetLeftOffset(). You can replace everything starting at 1800173BAh and going down to right before 180017421h to be equivalent to the existing patches.

Thought so.

Scamdisk

momentum

Damn

Actually

09:31

I will check if reimplementing a background is possible on 8.1

09:32

And possibly backport it to 8.0

Vruh 2

and i wonder

i was right all along i guess

09:55

but without win32 i wouldnt have a confirmation

09:57

so now i suppose what is left to do is

09:58

offset patch

09:58

ill try it later maybe

10:22

this isn't the right color

@ImSwordQueen br can you try my udwm on metroless 9200 or a 9200 vm with aero

yeah sure

10:53

let me turn it on

10:54

i was working on adding a background to the login screen rn

is it directui

10:54

if it is should be possible i think

authui

no i meaj

so probably

10:56

i don't remember

10:56

if authui used directui or not

does it have an ui fule

10:56

file

uifiles yeah

then it should be

uhm

10:59

oh wait

10:59

theme

10:59

yeah

10:59

wait

10:59

hold up

11:00

uhhh

11:00

@Vruh 2

11:00

glass8 being funny with reflections (edited)

I think you might also have to patch the text glow alignment in uDWM

11:01

Since I saw the functionality for it in there

yeah

i think you patch it similarly to 8.1

glass8 settings isn't affecting it

did you disable the glow

11:02

wait what

11:02

is the glow not working

oh

11:02

️

Yeah

odd as fuck issue

E2

I think you might also have to patch the text glow alignment in uDWM

.

11:02

You can try to investigate

nah bro im out all day

11:03

i pass the torch to you for now

going to restart the vm to check if that does something

11:03

i doubt it

Ok. let me see then. I don't think I'll figure this out now but anyway

would be quicker anyways since you have more asm under your belt

More like decomposing remains of it

i work around the pseudocode and ask around for win32 and ximonite

i cook windows uifiles (edited)

I need to get into C too

11:04

Pseudocode makes stuff easier to understand

the twinui mod i made isn't spaghetti code at all

11:05

still that damn glow

yes the glow is bugged

strangely enough

11:05

on the ribbonui ones it isn't affected

The ribbon one is most likely defined by msstyles

but we are close to finally having left aligned text on 8.0

Both text and glow

it is

Thought so

no need for 8.1

there is need for 8.1

except for the legacy file transfer dialog

Lol. Funny how I ended up right here

ImSwordQueen

except for the legacy file transfer dialog

i can patch it later

11:06

not a hard patch

jevil tried that

Yea, shouldn't be too hard to find

it didn't work

whats the issue then

on 8.0 i mean

I need to install VM

ImSwordQueen

on 8.0 i mean

Can you pin 8400 M2 here?

whats the issue jevil got

the dialog would still appear

11:08

even with the function was modified

11:08

@E2 it's pinned in #os-mods

maybe its shell32a doing that idk

Thanks

no

11:08

because 8.0 doesn't need that

11:08

but a thing i noticed is that

11:08

with that function modified

11:08

windows wouldn't boot at all

11:08

without test mode

But 8.1 does? Strange

11:09

@Vruh 2 It is this one you modified?

i could try patching ci

Why are here two vruh's

one is my old account

E2

@Vruh 2 It is this one you modified?

i believe so yes

11:10

Did he look at the pseudocode?

11:11

Maybe variables and stuff are different

i'm pretty sure he used symbols

11:12

and because shell32 symbols aren't half baked

11:12

it should be the same as 8.1's

Is this the only thing changed?

naw

win32

To be more specific, this seems to be the entirety of GetLeftOffset(). You can replace everything starting at 1800173BAh and going down to right before 180017421h to be equivalent to the existing patches.

.

11:15

look at this

11:15

search for the rax 18h thing

11:15

i believe its the one on ValidateResources

11:15

kinda hard to explain

ImSwordQueen

how is udwm involved with the sse2 requirement

we patched over some sse2 instructions. dwm would fail to run on pre sse2 because of this

12:38

the glow is handled by a different function in udwm

12:41

yes... getleftoffset got inlined in updateglow too

huh

I almost figured it out

12:48

I kinda understand how it goes but not really

12:49

So edi just gets zero'd and udwmenablebits test's it

so i think we need to patch out this entire thing with a 45 33 C0 (xor r8d, r8d - which can't be assembled in ida because it's a pure x64 instruction) and then the jmp to 1800176BCh

E2

So edi just gets zero'd and udwmenablebits test's it

yeah, edi gets moved into the member of the ctext class that represents the offset. the original patch omitted that comparison with udwmenablebits so it's not used in this one either

Okay..I'm failing with the jump part

how is it failing

Can't make it jump to the address win32 mentioned

15:45

Don't blame me, I really don't remember :(

jump to this

15:46

@win32 i have a feeling they just returned getleftoffset to be practical

15:46

because it's inlined in both UpdateGlow and ValidateResources

15:46

also makes me wonder if you can actually return GetLeftOffset and ditch the inlined variants

Yeah..I need to take a course again

dude

15:49

i just ask win32

15:49

i don't know a single thing about ASM

15:49

anyways

15:49

try that

For the last 10 mins I seriously forgot how bytes worked, lol

15:54

Okay, let's try it

15:58

Alright... It worked, but not really

15:58

It's under the word Manager

16:01

@win32 This has been set correctly, right?

16:01

Sorry for bothering

i said to jump to 1800176BCh not 18001769dh

Thought so

Okay. I cannot exactly jump to that offset

17:22

I can only jump to the closest loc, which is 0x1800176B1 (edited)

did you type in "jmp 1800176BCh"

Did it right before you posted the message

17:24

The fucking short

any update?

i need

20:43

to fuckin uhhh

20:43

get 8.0 installed

20:43

so i csn test faster

8400 m2 fuck it

i wonder how tihiy managed to remove the white hardcoded part of explorer

helo

21:07

@ImSwordQueen i could swear aero glass worked even without gpu drivers

On 8400 it did

no like

21:08

on 9600 too

huh

i had 9600 without gpu drivers and aero at one point

i wonder what big muscle did

21:08

Man

21:08

If only glass8 was open source

21:09

So we could see what the hell is going on

either way i don't need aero to fuck around with uDWM

Yeah

so time to begin the cookage

Udwm is software rendered too so who cares

good enough

Man. That looks cool as fuck imo

done

21:21

now the glow is fixed

E2

@win32 This has been set correctly, right?

jmp to the next loc

21:21

@ImSwordQueen your wish has been granted

21:21

also

21:21

do you notice something

21:22

actually i should ask

21:22

is it actually working

21:23

glow seems a bit faint (edited)

21:23

uDWM.dll

739.5 KB

21:25

ok time's up for this install

21:25

time to install amd drivers

1

done

21:32

killed the 8.0 install

challenge nomorebugcheck on 8.0

i wonder if the confidential wmark was a ifdef switched thing or a thing that can be switched on and off on shell32

23:18

probably the aforementioned

Vruh 2

jmp to the next loc

Oh fuck. forgot to upload my patched uDWM

I used a little bit of a different approach than win32's, but seems to work fine

did you xor edi directly?

You guessed

What's the best 7 theme for 8?

Vruh's modification

This one?

That one has a bug iirc

Where should I look then

If you want to download an almost 1 gb pack for just the theme my transformation pack has it

Oof, large. My internet's really bad since the end of April

I would have gave you it if i had it rn

always based vruh2

ImSwordQueen pinned a message to this channel. 10/05/2022 14:12

@E2

Aero7.msstyles

1.38 MB

ImSwordQueen

always based vruh2

I would've been based if I uploaded it yesterday troll

ImSwordQueen

@E2

works on 8.1?

how do you want me to call you here btw

ImSwordQueen

how do you want me to call you here btw

because i don't know

14:34

Vruh 2

Click to see attachment 🖼️

is this for 8.1 or 8.0 only?

8.0

is there one for 8.1?

a private dll yes. the method is already public if you want to scroll up

i cant tell which one is for 8.1

the method. not the dll

is it hard?

the dll has not been published

14:37

no

14:37

it's only a hex patch

does it break my os?

no

patching shell32?

no

14:38

it's literally udwm

oh

14:38

https://discord.com/channels/834204256210386944/834206104350359602/970036597292695562

14:38

this?

yes

14:39

it should be FA the new value or something

14:39

or F6

ImSwordQueen

because i don't know

Haha

14:40

AAT or sha05 is good

ok it's F3

E2

AAT or sha05 is good

14:41

based AAT

14:42

00011060?

14:43

@ImSwordQueen am i looking at the right part?

yes

@ImSwordQueen now, where is the thing that does the offset titlebar stuff

replace 00 00 00 00

That looks nice

with F3 FF FF FF

Scamdisk

don't give me hope.

8R? Cool mod

ImSwordQueen

replace 00 00 00 00

from 0B to 0E

the last 00 00 00 00 (edited)

ok

14:46

got it

obivous joke, mod won't come back

gonna change this

or will it?

no

Find out in the next season

literally this

Breaking bad plays

ik

14:47

i think i did it correctly

14:49

ig time to test

14:50

time to restart ig

Update the checksum too

14:51

And you can just restart DWM in the task manager (edited)

E2

Update the checksum too

how?

14:51

and is it not necessary

Usually it is very much necessary

14:52

But you can try without (edited)

E2

But you can try without (edited)

should i take the risk

Restart DWM and see what happens

14:53

end task and run dwm.exe?

Ah, cool. No need then

14:53

Nvm

14:53

Yes. dwm will restart itself (edited)

wish me good luck

14:54

YAYYY

Nice

oops

14:55

btw im still using jan 2022 windows 7 theme

14:55

should i change my theme to vruhs one?

snowy but consistently left aligned

@ImSwordQueen applying the 7 styled copying window is hard, no?

you need test mode

...nah not gonna bother

mfw there's more at the bottom of 8.0's store

ah, Windows 8.1U1 feature

no glow

15:23

wtf 8R 2

@ImSwordQueen is the glow on 8.0 fucked up

15:32

or does it need no offset patch shit

E2

I would've been based if I uploaded it yesterday troll

hey. this is a collective effort between you me and win32 (he helps us with asm)

Vruh 2

@ImSwordQueen is the glow on 8.0 fucked up

there's no glow

wait what

15:35

the fuck

15:35

that isn't supposed to happ

15:35

en

15:35

@E2 bo

15:35

no glow near the text

Vruh 2

hey. this is a collective effort between you me and win32 (he helps us with asm)

Lol

disable the glow on aero glass settings

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

There is glow, but it's kinda faint don't you think

E2

There is glow, but it's kinda faint don't you think

i thought the same

I also noticed that. No idea why

‍♂️

i can see it on an opaque theme

on 8.1

yeah it's noticeably stronger on 8.1 (edited)

15:36

wonder if there's something else to the patch

Are some values getting messed with?

no glow

15:37

atlas theme

15:37

atlas theme and themes opacity

15:37

theme settings

15:37

they look the same

It's noticeable, just really weak

yeah it all looks the same to me

15:38

put it against a black background

theme settings

it's there

no glow

it's ALWAYS there

15:38

what the fuck

15:38

that is actually odd

15:39

i can definitely see it

Maybe we shouldn't have directly xor'd edi?

let me check if with an another aeroglass tool does something

And instead took win32's approach with r8d

like

15:39

not even caption text colors work on aeroglassGUI

E2

Maybe we shouldn't have directly xor'd edi?

i don't think this is a consequence of that

Who knows?

most likely aeroglassGUI not liking 8.0?

I went with r8d because r8d is the final result that is placed into the class. edi is merely added to r8d.

Yes, but that might still make difference

you can see the glow right

15:41

it's there (edited)

15:41

we're only tampering with it's position

ofc, ofc

ok i see it here

Vruh 2

we're only tampering with it's position

Yes, but we might've impacted passage of some other value. Or maybe there is indeed more to patch

Scamdisk

ofc, ofc

patch it

ImSwordQueen

ok i see it here

i think this actually looks more accurate to 7 than 8.1's glow

welp time to install 8.1 and update it's apps and get that one config needed to patch it

wait no

15:42

i'll give it to you rn

15:42

hold up

15:43

god rectify11 bootux is hot

15:43

amoled boot loader

8400 M2

15:44

which one

pro

15:44

it's based on pro after all

What?

15:44

They customized bootux?

yeah

ImSwordQueen

it's based on pro after all

it's based

That's impressive

Woow

15:45

How the hell?

uifiles

directui strikes again

I don't remember seeing any UIFILE in the dll

15:45

Unless they decrypted whatver these files were

on 8.1+ uifiles are encrypted

15:45

you need uib2t103 (edited)

Lmao

or whatever is called

is it unencrypted on 8.0 and older?

idk on 8.0

15:46

on 7 yeah

15:46

and 8 betas as well

Seeing no results on Google

for whatever reason 8.0 and 8.1's explorer doesn't support hover on the show desktop button

15:46

ex7for8 fixes this

yeah lemme check twinui.dll

it has that smooth look to it but it can be easily fixed on the msstyles

15:46

8.1 however

15:46

uh

15:46

!

wtf you made me noticed @Vruh 2

15:47

i hate you for this

Vruh 2

ex7for8 fixes this

I was baffled when I found 7600 explorer and 8441 shell32 in SwordKing's metroless mod

15:47

So that's what it is

ImSwordQueen

i hate you for this

how have you not noticed it

i never noticed it

What?

E2

I was baffled when I found 7600 explorer and 8441 shell32 in SwordKing's metroless mod

8441 shell32 is only for the watermark lol

I didn't know you can transplant shell32 just like that

it depends on what build you choose

15:48

8441 is really close to 9200

And why would you want that watermark? Immersion?

it makes me wonder if the confidential wmark is a switch on off thing on shell32 or a compiler option

idk seems like they are encrypted on 8.0

reasons

probably the latter

SwordKing, could you send the decrypting thing here

15:49

I can't find anything

considering i've seen #ifdef __PRERELEASE on the xp source a couple of times (edited)

https://www.mediafire.com/file/h8svlf3hcqd3pto/uib2t.zip/file

uib2t

15:49

also

15:49

https://winclassic.boards.net/attachment/download/373

Oops, there was an error! | WinClassic

Visit our forum at: winclassic.boards.net

Oops

:trollformation:

15:49

no nqn

Thanks

15:50

Damn, still no pinning perms :(

Win8_TaskMgr_ClassicTheme_Fix_v1.res

165.4 KB

@E2 what's our next step in our 8.x efforts

ImSwordQueen pinned a message to this channel. 10/05/2022 15:50

van.dll (edited)

caption buttons?

15:50

hm

i really wish i knew where to look

Vruh 2

@E2 what's our next step in our 8.x efforts

I only can think of window buttons and the glows.

remove

i think the glows are acceptable for now

But I need to be done with exams, then take an ASM course

bring back

we could probably try comparing 7850's uDWM and or maybe win32k with some other build with symbols

late 81xx van8.dll could serve as base since there's builds without RP that have it

7850 still had old button metrics

What's van for?

literally the last build

15:51

and yeah

15:51

what the fuck is van.dll

this

ImSwordQueen

bring back

this damn dialog

i tried porting the uifiles to the 9600 one

15:52

failed

15:52

it's not the same as usercpl

15:52

of course you got deactivated you piece of shit

what theme are you using

15:53

it looks like mine but

yours

doesn't that have a bug on 8.0 or

before you fucked it up

Oh! Let's make an open source version of Aeroglass troll

ImSwordQueen

before you fucked it up

icup

wait

15:53

this tool has this

15:53

i wonder

:torl :

if this brings glass to software dwm

15:54

ImSwordQueen

before you fucked it up

bro u

15:54

j

15:54

i

gave you up

tried desimplex-fying the theme

ye i know

15:55

it failed

not entirely

you have to accept failures

it has the corner shit which i could try fixing

ImSwordQueen

you have to accept failures

why does it not look failed here

15:56

what

15:56

not even here

15:56

what

15:56

where did it fail

is it the pinned one

it sounds like you had a major skill issue and my theme accounted for that by failing on you

or the one i sent

ImSwordQueen

is it the pinned one

i

15:57

don't know

15:57

i forgor (edited)

@Scamdisk

settings.dat

256 KB

15:57

works for zunevideo as well

Unrelated, but is it normal that Steam doesn't show pages on 8?

does my theme work with ex7for8

yeah

good

btw vruh

15:58

how do you rate project 8400?

15:58

so far

i

even without glass trol

E2

Unrelated, but is it normal that Steam doesn't show pages on 8?

This happened on project 8400 M1

haven't tried it for more than 5 minutes

15:58

but fun fact i'm installing it on a vm right now

E2

Unrelated, but is it normal that Steam doesn't show pages on 8?

uhhhhh

i should try it on my 8.0 install

15:58

idk

15:58

this sounds like a weird issue

uh the glow here looks stupid faint too

15:59

is this an 8.0 thing

that's with glass?

negativo

check with glass

15:59

wait

15:59

what vmware tools are you using

i'm using vmware 9

15:59

bo

oh ok

10

Yeah, I also had that

16:00

On actual hardware by the way

n o yeah

16:00

it looks mad faint

16:00

this looks exactly like 8 rp

16:00

i don't care about the little ass differences

16:00

this looks like 8rp

vmware fucked glass on vmware workstation 12+ on 8.0

E2

On actual hardware by the way

What about that?

Vruh 2

this looks like 8rp

except for the fucking pane that i forgor

to include

is ux theme patched already

16:00

or is this uhh

yes

16:00

obv

ok thank

16:00

let me get my uDWM

i couldn't include the modified theme without modded uxtheme (edited)

16:01

holy shit

16:01

i have brain issues today

take this as reference

16:01

before i install uDWM

hmhm

16:02

it looks exactly the same

16:02

the glow that is

it's there

8.0 issue or non issue idk

it's surely a 8.0 thing

16:04

btw on 8.0 the titlebar text is perfect

16:04

this is amazing

uxtheme is not patched

it is though

16:05

because the theme is fucking modified

it just changed my theme to aerolite

bruh what

it should work wtf

16:05

probably bad theme file?

16:05

or idk

16:05

uhhhhh

16:05

Uh

yeah i told you it was patched (edited)

i'm ACTUALLY

16:06

FUCKING

16:06

BLIND

16:06

i put the fucking theme files on resources

horny

16:06

bruh

cacophony

16:07

in visual form

free radio

no bugs bro

16:08

it works fine for me

with the pinned theme?

yeah

wtf

16:08

then what did happen with the 8.1 one

skill issue probably

16:09

8.1 ads

16:10

wtf no piracy needed?!?!?

16:11

depression

idk about you bro but the theme looks fire here

let me check real quick on 8.1 again

16:16

man i cannot fucking apply aerolite on my 8.1 install

if it wasn't for the ayyymd drivers were you going to switch vruh? trol

no

16:23

i still think 8.0 is stupid lol!!!!!!!

16:23

owned

16:23

massively owned

!brazil @Vruh 2 592386278362762767267d bully

my efforts to 8.0 are not because i like the os it's because it must be done (edited)

16:25

i couldn't go a day longer seeing 8.0 with the stupid headass centered titlebar

bruh you sound like daniel

who said i'm not daniel

damn damiel

16:26

with the white vans

damn daniel

-brazil

@E2 again our next effort whenever we do start that effort is in the caption buttons

Sure, lol. See you in June

can the 8.x maniacs wait any longer

i don't use weak 7 glass

16:31

i use chad Consumer Preview glass

that glow

16:33

christ

cope

16:34

i always choose the worst wallpapers for a black titlebar text

16:34

so the glow is necessary

Putting the grey title bar effect from 79xx builds in 8 on my to-do...

@Vruh 2 are you going to update the taskbar of 7 explorer in the theme or will you keep it like it is now? (edited)

19:48

just asking so i don't upload the transformation pack with the old one but with the newer theme instead (edited)

ok pack mostly done

20:49

Last thing missing is the thumbnail and its ready (unless vruh2 does the theme then i have to include that)

the the what of what in the who when where

This taskbar@Vruh 2

what do you want me to do

21:12

the fact it fucking glows is because of ex7for8

21:12

unless you mean the show desktop button tex

21:12

then yeah i can change it

yeah that

ok one moment

Also

21:13

Does the 8 taskbar show desktop react to tablet mode

yeah

i suppose it doesn't on 8.1

21:15

And what about the color being wrong?

21:15

actually dont bother with that

ImSwordQueen

i suppose it doesn't on 8.1

naw

it's fucking stupid because glass8 affects it for some reason

it isn't a thing on the 8.1 explorer

i don't even know why the hell the color is right when glass8 is disabled and not when its enabled. Fucking 7 explorer being awful on 8

done i suppose

Huh

21:18

It changes a lot

what

21:18

i changed the texture and 7tt'd so it's 15px

21:18

Aero7.msstyles

1.38 MB

With one button change the taskbar feels like more like 7's

21:18

Even if the texture is DP's

what

21:19

the texture is 7's

Wait really

21:19

I thought it was a dp leftover bs

wym

21:20

the taskbar is just 7's

eh forget it

what is the dp part

This taskbar

no it's 7's texture

But now looking at it

21:22

Its not the same

21:22

Yeah

21:22

For some reason i thought it was the same (edited)

21:22

Here it uses the 7 one

21:23

I should get some sleep holy shit

21:23

ty for taking your time to patch the show desktop button and dealing with me lol

pov

Nice

17:18

I almost got it working too

17:19

So how did you go around it? (edited)

that's the deletion dialog for the recycle bin

17:20

the normal copy dialog is the 8.x one

Implying that recycle bin still uses the older dialog?

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

told you my theme isn't bugged

yep

What. How did I never notice that

only on 8.0 that happens

17:21

on 8.1 they patched it

Ah

17:21

I sorta got it working. The old dialog appears for like half a second before explorer crashes

you can patch it on 8.1 trol

17:22

on 8.0 you can't

Yes, it's weird

17:22

Maybe someone should attach a debugger

how does that look?

time to say goodbye to my oldest 8.x install (not really because i have a version stored on the old drive)

welp i fucked up explorer so bad that now taskmgr requires uac every time to open

i now see why i didnt want to reinstall

21:04

language packs take ages

Krita 5.0.6 (x64) is advertised as 8.1 and up only but works on 8.0

21:49

Holy shit my laptop is cursed with metro apps

21:49

Even with a new install the weather app is still cooked

21:50

Obv i say that and now it works

@ImSwordQueen should i...

23:29

i...

23:29

main windows 8.1...

23:29

i never thought i'd say this in my lifetime

23:29

stupid STUPID windows 8

If you want

finished installing this mf os on my entire ssd

05:09

shame it won't look like this very soon

Why dont you make something else with your 8.1 install instead of making it the same copy of 7 every time

05:25

just install 7 xddddd

ImSwordQueen

Why dont you make something else with your 8.1 install instead of making it the same copy of 7 every time

because 78.1 (edited)

05:26

funny

Yeah that's funny actually

huh

05:31

FA isn't really that close

It was f3

05:35

Or f4

05:35

Most likely f4

F2

05:35

f2 nails it

05:35

Huh

f2 nails it so hard i fell from my chair

05:36

also why is there no themeres on system32

05:36

wf

05:36

wtf

You forgor

forfor

️ what

To put your themeres in system32

i put it there

05:37

it changed nothing

je

sus

05:37

f2 death

05:38

it was good until i opened this window

f

05:38

The offset gets real

it's ok it's ok

05:39

literally only that window is that small

05:41

ok i'll complete the rest of da transformation later

05:41

i have to sleep

05:41

it's like

05:41

2:37 am for me (edited)

Bru

bo

Don't install 78.1 at 3am (not clickbait) (police called)

are 8.1 window animations like

05:43

slightly different from 7

got accuweather to work now too

I FORGOT ABOUT THIS

17:33

WHATTTTT

17:35

this version of this charms bar is wayyyy better than the 8.1 version

17:35

why did they scrapped this

because start button

oh yeah.

18:09

the downgrade...

then again, start button wasnt a thing until 94xx

18:11

well outside of ux lab

the start button could've not existed

18:11

they could've made that corner easily clickable on desktop though

18:11

because afair you have to kinda drag your mouse up on 8.0 to get to the start screen

people would had still raged because "where start button"

18:12

honestly, the 8102 charms position was way better on desktop

18:13

but that also means there has to be a start button

i wonder why they cut the mini charms bar

ImSwordQueen

I FORGOT ABOUT THIS

that i think

18:17

but frankly they should had used the normal taskbar for metro shit too

Scamdisk

people would had still raged because "where start button"

why not just press windows smh

because most people don't use key combos

19:29

other than ctrl-c/v

even then, there's people that might not know what that is

depends if you use a keyboard from 2004 or not

19:40

i mean the windows logo isn't that diff but still

windows logo now is just MS logo but all blue

who remembers this logo anyways winnt

19:48

would be a short time before colored windows logos are forgotton due to the shitty incoming generations

Deleted User

would be a short time before colored windows logos are forgotton due to the shitty incoming generations

feels weird to realize that children younger than windows 10 can already speak, walk and use computers

my 6 year old brothers can do powerpoints

19:54

its scary

death

RayZen

feels weird to realize that children younger than windows 10 can already speak, walk and use computers

Lies

no

19:54

unless you want children that are 6-7 not speaking and walking?

?????

19:55

smh

windows 10 is 7 and i remember exactly what i did when i first installed it on release date

Windows 7 is xp

windows xp is nt4

i remember we made the gwx thing download once it was released and then it was downloaded by the day it released

19:56

we installed it

Nt4 is ms dos

i tested nfsu2 to see if it still worked

19:56

it did

19:56

then i went to play minecraft iirc

19:57

then i tested the game bar shit if that existed back then

19:57

did it

i recall no one upgrading to windows 10 when it was released

19:57

(locally)

Cool story related about windows 8

i remember playing minecraft and then it popped up saying i could record shit

19:57

i was like

19:57

yo

19:57

let's fucking go

19:57

and then i recorded myself making some piston machine

twitch integration

nerd

shitty piston machine that did nothing

lmao

very windows 8

Click the right one

click it

RayZen

feels weird to realize that children younger than windows 10 can already speak, walk and use computers

also to be fair

19:59

i was already using computers when i was 5

19:59

or 6

19:59

i know by 6 years old i could already navigate the web by myself and type shit

i had a windows 95 computer when i was 5

i "started" using computers when i was 4

20:00

my grandma would type out the sites

20:00

i would do the rest

20:00

aka play fucking flash games

can't tell you when exactly did i use computers but it was very early for me

20:00

aka like 2-3 years old

20:00

when i was 4 pretty sure i was playing games on xp all the time anyways

so it doesn't seem absurd to me that kids aged 6 or 7 can use computers

have pics

specially in this day and age

20:01

when we're literally surrounded by fucking technology

20:01

back in 2010 it was a different story

Very related

however i did have privilege of having an xp computer on the garage, someone who regularly used computers literally the next room and i got a playstation 2 very early on (maybe when i was 5?)

:trol:

20:03

Honestly aero and fluent still look good

is that my edited wallpaper from eons ago?

Yes

lodocus

is that my edited wallpaper from eons ago?

i see you have found the term "eon"

It was a long time ago

before the windows-8 section turned into full tryhard 78.1

I still have the og screenshot troll

1

20:04

honestly at this point all we do is tryhard transforming 8.1 into 7

20:06

we'll never appreciate 8.1 as is

You do*

you made the pack

20:06

you literally made the pack that started it

the entire thing

Depressing

fuck 8.1 all my homies hate no aero

20:07

so we 78.1 through life (edited)

ImSwordQueen

Depressing

you can also kind thank my interest in 10 betas and then AAT for helping me use ida because then i went to try to fix getleftoffset on 8.0

20:08

which also extended the 7 transformation hell

20:08

and then you can thank simplex for giving me motivation to fix pinky's theme trol

20:09

Man this

20:09

And this were in the same machine

20:10

i almost thought

20:10

we had left text back in 2020

20:10

then i looked closer

20:10

Also big caption button

i'm going insane

Now the only thing missing on 8.0 is the caption button size

20:12

Of the close button

20:14

On 8.1 it will require more work

how is that so

Cuz on 8.1 you still got a lot of centered stuff

20:26

On 7 with ex7forw8 most stuff got uncentered

i love windows 8 fucking dying by opening the context menu

@ImSwordQueen bo what if https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/834206126878752808/955140308444807289/unknown.png

23:18

https://www.deviantart.com/giannisgx89/art/Dream-for-Win7-206868802

Dream for Win7 by giannisgx89 on DeviantArt

23:18

on 8.1

23:18

what if

@ImSwordQueen new threat to da 78.1 cause

00:28

this mf be too damn blobby n shit!!!

00:28

too BRIGHT!!!!

00:29

how it waz in 7

00:29

nice n subtle but still there

00:31

NEED... TO... FIX

lean glow confirmed

@ImSwordQueen so uhh

04:04

pinky showed me an automated method of porting 7 themes to 8.1

04:04

uhh

04:04

it did not work so here i am manually porting this fucking theme

04:04

god help me

04:05

and yes i'm missing a shellstyle

04:05

fucking wsb deleting the shellstyle

04:06

anyways this theme was literally made to be ported to 8.1

04:06

it has no caption button glows

04:06

no overlays

04:06

nothing 8.1 doesn't have

and wsb crashed before i even got to save

04:45

F

how am i even supposed to do this

05:12

i'm sure there must be a like

05:12

correct way

05:12

https://mrbladedesigns.com/import-windows-7-themes-to-windows-8-8-1-mega-tutorial/

MrBlade

Import windows 7 themes to windows 8 & 8.1: Mega Tutorial | Mr. Bla...

Hello everyone, have you ever wondered or wished that some of of your coolest windows 7 theme should have been built for 8 & 8.1? Don't you worry, in this tutorial I will teach how to successfully port a windows 7 theme to 8 & 8.1 Hassle free, easy steps with pictures. Special thanks to

05:12

i tried this mf's method

05:12

it doesn't work at all

Most likely is to port everything manually

pinky told me about that dude's method

05:13

she said it works fine

05:13

i can't get it to work at all

05:13

i tried literally 2 themes

Have you tried the default 7 theme?

i can try it but i certify it won't work

Maybe that might work trol

i give you my certification it won't work

05:50

not working guaranteed

05:55

what a surprise

05:59

me when when i channel my inner @ImSwordQueen

Vruh 2

i was already using computers when i was 5

i was already using computers when i was 2

https://www.deviantart.com/imswordking/art/Win8-xTo7-Transformation-Pack-916111837

Win8.xTo7 Transformation Pack by ImSwordKing on DeviantArt

old or new?

new obv

thought that existed before

22:29

that's why i asked

oh

22:32

i was going to replace the old post with the new one but because some chinese people were stealing my screenshot and passing it off as theirs. i choosen to keep it

@ImSwordQueen my hatred for windows 8.1 is so fucking massive

04:49

i hate this os with all of my forces

04:49

stupid headass os that can't stop breaking for no good fucking reason

04:49

of course i got a black screen and this time i tried everything

04:49

looking into regedit for the theme manager shit

04:49

nothing

04:49

it was all Aero.msstyles

04:49

deleted testing from windows style builder

Ouch

put aero.msstyles on aero7

04:50

and renamed

04:50

everything

04:50

this stupid fucking os can't stop breaking because of themes

04:50

oooh the theme isn't right * breaks dwm completely and makes os completely unusable *

04:50

stupid headass os

dwm moment

and here's the best part

04:51

it breaks when i literally don't have a windows 8 usb stick

04:51

i was literally about to do some stuff on this live ubuntu usb

ubuntu

yeah... install it and nuke snap

then it just fucking dies and now i somehow have to deal with that shit before i can even proceed to do what i was going to do

04:52

no i'm not gonna install ubuntu

jk jk

i hate windows 8

04:52

i hate windows 8 so much

04:52

why did i not just go with windows 10

04:52

why did i have to differ

04:52

atleast with 10 i know i can't modify so i don't try it

04:53

now how the fuck do i even fix this stupid os

Go for it, modded 10 (LTSC or ReviOS) with some tweaks is really good to use

im using macos mojave now :D

E2

Go for it, modded 10 (LTSC or ReviOS) with some tweaks is really good to use

now i'm already all set up on 8.1

Good for you

meanwhile i sometimes hate resource hacker, it breaks basebrd.dll.mui if i modify it too much

04:54

i also have snow leo and mavericks on multiboot, i will install tiger and windows xp soon too

besides

04:55

i wish there was an actual patch that allowed the os to run without dwm with no issues

04:55

like

04:55

the os wouldn't mind the lack of dwm and keep running but would also work with dwm

8.0 can run without much issues if you patch it enough

04:56

to not use dwm

04:56

and ex7forw8 is a thing so ofc there's a non-dwm dependent explorer replacement

i'm not even sure what theme my 8.1 install is using

04:57

both theme manager keys say aero.msstyles

04:57

very clearly it's not the case

guess you got the unlucky side of the stick because it would usually default to aerolite or default aero if theme is something it doesnt like

it never defaults to aerolite for me

04:58

never

or not change theme at all

nor aero

04:59

it just dies

04:59

always

04:59

no exception

ik 8.0 doesnt even change theme if it sees a broken one

05:00

well if it's applied from proprieties

somehow fixed it

05:09

still hate windows 8.1

05:15

holy shit how amazing

05:15

i've restarted my computer so many times i actually killed my laptop drive which was nearly dying because i had to force 8.1 to go into automatic repair

05:16

nevermind

05:16

for some reason it was clicking

05:16

on my usbhdd adapter

05:16

go figure

05:19

yep it's still working had to reformat the drive connected to sata then i put it back on the adapter now it stopped clicking

I had to remove the pack from deviantart as i made a big mistake and didn't ask the og owner of the wallpaper if i couldve release it

08:48

i fucked up big time

Mistakes happen

08:52

Don't worry, I also almost lost my account today

nitro scam? (edited)

Violating ToS by using betterdiscord

08:53

Did you get confronted, anyway? (edited)

I asked him and i didn't wait for a response (edited)

Got called out? Or it just hit you?

He told me to wait until he releases the glass pack

08:56

Glass interface kit pack (edited)

Ah, sure enough. We can wait

I will remove it and still release it as it is

https://www.deviantart.com/imswordking/art/Win8-xTo7-Transformation-Pack-916171789

Win8.xTo7 Transformation Pack by ImSwordKing on DeviantArt

13:00

reuploaded with a different wallpaper and removed the one which i didn't have permission to use

ImSwordQueen

https://www.deviantart.com/imswordking/art/Win8-xTo7-Transformation-Pack-916171789

if you just somehow fixed those smaller windows like in winver

19:10

you know made the close button wider

beg @Vruh 2 to find a way trol

19:15

it's udwm shit

i'm the worst person to ask

19:17

ask @E2 once he finds time

19:17

or beg for a collaboration between win32 and him and maybe me

19:18

i only found the left text shit on uDWM because i kinda knew what GetLeftOffset was supposed to do

19:18

win32 confirmed it (edited)

19:18

and then i went ahead and did the patch

19:18

a caucasian aat i believe found DwmTextAligned on the same place as i found the inlined GetLeftOffset (edited)

19:19

before i even got there

the

emoji is there because i was joking

hey

19:19

you never know

19:19

it might be a reality sometime trol

ImSwordQueen pinned a message to this channel. 15/05/2022 20:37

because this shit is public now. time to post it here too (8.1 fixed left alignment)

uDWM.dll

824 KB

ImSwordQueen pinned a message to this channel. 15/05/2022 20:39

what (edited)

20:59

wasn't it fixed already

yeah but it wasn't pinned

fat winver

8102 with redpill moment

rip fat winver but rip ms confidential watermark too

if only 8520 leaked in x64 (edited)

but instead it got leaked in arm32

we got trolled

11:44

ok cool. making authui's uifiles into their unencrypted format doesn't kill windows. IT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE

holy hell

this is the proof that it's modified

16:09

so no weird locks and shit.

@ImSwordQueen send ur themeui or whatever it was called. i wanna make it so personalization ALWAYS works

Literally get the 7tsp back and apply that

16:37

Pack

ImSwordQueen

ok cool. making authui's uifiles into their unencrypted format doesn't kill windows. IT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE

Deflattening the login ui you mean?

ImSwordQueen

Literally get the 7tsp back and apply that

i did

docR

Deflattening the login ui you mean?

Yeeep

16:39

Then what are you doing at themeui to mess it up

ImSwordQueen

Yeeep

Bruh

8.0 only for now trol

ImSwordQueen

ok cool. making authui's uifiles into their unencrypted format doesn't kill windows. IT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE

woah based

16:40

disable redpill for 8.0 rtm when

ImSwordQueen

8.0 only for now trol

~~ffs~~ (edited)

Honestly i should make a donation page so people can support me making bad decisions trol

lmao

16:41

i would give you my toenail

Ahmadb go to brazil

16:41

NOW

ok

16:42

someone brazil

ImSwordQueen

Honestly i should make a donation page so people can support me making bad decisions trol

and good Windows 8 mods

-brazil @Deleted User 5m

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/871130007316078604/871168710314950666/brazil.mp4

16:42

ahmadb#8160 was muted

Obrigado scamdisk por me conceder o maravilhoso presente de visitar o rio de janeiro!! (edited)

moment

wait

16:52

that's 8.x right?

yes

16:52

8.1

what based firefox is that

i can't tell with those titlebar caption buttons

Deleted User

what based firefox is that

91 esr?

91.9.0 esr

16:52

with docr's custom css

yep i was correct

ah

16:52

the css

i was going to be surprised if it was 100 or something like that

tbh it could work

16:54

had to first install lepton then docr's css

16:58

well yeah, it can work on 100

Scamdisk

moment

y u no use dtm 08??

that looks better

17:02

he's running :)

all these 8 themed 7 pics are making my heart ache

17:04

i want my 7 themed vista back

what happen

anyway, any plans for a similar pack for 8.x to vista /s

ImSwordQueen

what happen

computer die

17:05

cpu burned from being run at 100 degrees for god knows how long

Scamdisk

anyway, any plans for a similar pack for 8.x to vista /s

uhhhh

17:05

don't tell win32 about this

17:05

but

17:05

something is in the works

noice

but probably will never come out

why not

17:06

i'd main 8 again (edited)

17:06

something i haven't done in over 3 years

because i'm kinda tired of making transformation packs

ah

17:07

take a rest then

also

17:08

something similar is already out

me when office refresh on 8.1

not 2206

0/10

17:09

https://forum.eclectic4un.me/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=99 @Deleted User

Aero Vista Inspirat Pack for Win8.1

As the name implies, this is a transformation pack of sorts that gives Windows 8.1's interface an Aero fit and finish. It isn't based on any one OS in particula

17:09

called like that so a certain librarian doesn't get killed

will install that soon and recreate that one 2016, 2019 and 2021 licenses all at the same time thing

i tried still having mondo 2016 on insider

17:10

but it still kicked me out of mondo

17:10

(edited)

i see

ImSwordQueen

called like that so a certain librarian doesn't get killed

lol

so this exists. insider LTSC

17:11

it's still enrolled inside the insider program

17:11

somehow

is it dogfood

nope

17:11

normal beta

just like windows ltsc has an insider program

that does not get updates though

well tho it obivously doesn't work

Scamdisk

me when office refresh on 8.1

nice cracked office

meanwhile this ltsc can get updates

and there's like only one build leaked in client ltsc

17:12

you know, 18282

thank you microsoft for making office 365 and ltsc in the same package

17:13

that only requires a swap to get the right sku

all of them are office 16

17:13

it's only licensing that decides which "version" of office you have

yep

17:14

imagine that on windows

wow

for all skus

that might happen with the wcos thing for all ik

but well

17:15

wcos fails everytime

17:15

for whatever reason (edited)

ms just can't ship wcos to consumer desktop

or phones

that one is sorta understandable, they didn't want another windows phone after all

rip andromedaOS

an andromedaos build will never get leaked

17:17

and the polaris build i "leaked" isn't interesing at all

brb going to gus house and kidnap him

17:17

LITERALLY DISCORD ISN'T LETTING ME PUT /S

17:17

/s (edited)

brb going to gus' house and steal 8250 x64 /s (edited)

tbf

17:18

didn't gus help zac with andromeda?

yeah he did

so i'm pretty sure that he still has some files of andromedaOS trol

mfw windows thinks a 4.20gb file is too large for a drive with that much free space (edited)

17:22

oh wait forgor, fat32

17:22

ok modding it even does not kill it. this confirms it to be moddable

So could be possible to somehow port 7 authui stuff into it

Bruh

17:37

Yes

Scamdisk

So could be possible to somehow port 7 authui stuff into it

nope

17:37

too different

17:37

something similar can be made though

What about skinning it somewhat)

17:37

Just the buttons

skinning it yes

There ya go

that's what i'm doing

I wouldn't mind solid bg if it had nice icons at least

ImSwordQueen

that's what i'm doing

Based

btw i'm going to release this for a price trol

17:39

for doing the "impossible" that's the minimum tbf

That's fair

you wanna know the price?

1 pizza

no

Or lasagna?

17:42

Fettuccine?

i mean pizza is fine but it's not a food trol

17:42

pizza is food but the price isn't

17:42

(edited)

You be promoted to server owner of ximonite and his gf's personal server, and be referred to as chairman?

something like that but not quite trol

17:44

it starts with a trol

You want admin isn't it

and finishes with r trol

17:44

obv not

r?

i don't wanna get brazilled whyyy

With power comes no

damn

17:50

time to make it 99$ then

17:51

That saying, what is the best ISO for the transformation pack

2021-xx for both versions

What exactly you wanna make paid? (edited)

ImSwordQueen

it starts with a trol

You want a letter of commendation for Fournier University to pursue your major in kernel extending? @win32

ImSwordQueen

2021-xx for both versions

Where can I get one for 8.1?

docR

You want a letter of commendation for Fournier University to pursue your major in kernel extending? @win32

that doesn't end with r

17:52

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aEW71YhWBGC4tdjZ1WXiwYxZLXvIkONt/view

Windows 8.1 fully updated 5-2021 + .NET 4.8.iso

17:52

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qA9McpmMa2A2g8LEQ5MwLOXDhFYd7RjY/view?usp=sharing

Windows 8 with updates (202102 v2).iso

Thank you (edited)

ok it's advisor. i know that's too much but ok

17:52

i get it

You deserve some of that (edited)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CRGUs0L1k7KCHwKrQkWBcjzE3hgUdsyo/view?usp=sharing

Industry8.1ProEnterprise2021-10.iso

ImSwordQueen

ok it's advisor. i know that's too much but ok

That's not too much to ask

also this

How about we strike a deal

17:54

Don't get yourself braziled for 2 weeks

17:54

And I'll put in good word trol

But no random bickering with people and getting muted, advisors can't be doin that shit

17:55

Just imagine when you can brazil them instead

17:55

17:56

And welp I skull spammed again. Time to Brazil myself

you didn't spam

17:56

bruj

every single skull is spam

18:00

change my mind

18:00

but

isn't

@ImSwordQueen i'm sword king do you know

18:04

what is responsible

18:05

for this

18:05

i am sword king

sadly

18:05

no

18:05

i was trying to get that on project 8400

18:05

never got it to work

i put

18:06

my FINGER

18:07

on ExplorerFrame.dll

and

18:07

you were wrong (edited)

WTF!!!!

i already checked explorerframe uifiles (edited)

18:07

does jack

it's explorer frame on win7 though

on 8.0 that part does nothing

18:07

remains white

18:08

‍♂️

the idea is not that

18:08

but ok

then what

18:08

(edited)

i suppose 8400 explorerframe.dll will just brick 8.0

oh b/f buttons?

right

Vruh 2

i suppose 8400 explorerframe.dll will just brick 8.0

yep

18:08

you can still access taskmgr to fix it

stupid STUPID os (edited)

so it's not a hard brick

on gaawwwddd can't even take a mod

18:08

alright

18:09

8400 doesn't matter to me

i mean

18:09

that's kinda obvious lmao

let's get straight to bricking

18:09

send me 8102 explorerframe.dll

sure thing

wait explorerframe.dll has uifile shit

18:09

?

yes

18:10

ExplorerFrame.dll

2.52 MB

ahhh hell naaah

not my son

aaahh heeel naaah i broke explorer!!!! wtf am i going to do??????!!!!!! WTF!!!!!

18:11

damn daniele

18:11

i did not expect this.............

18:12

how am i going to fix this!

break authui trol

does uhhh

18:12

the uhh

black

18:13

screen

18:13

funny

no

18:13

does the uhhhhh

18:13

what the fuck was i going to ask

18:13

forgor

18:13

also my start menu has been dead for so long

check if in sib you haven't disabled the thing

18:13

if that's 8.1

the What

nvm

what

18:14

what thing

18:14

i am on 8.1!!

this

18:14

yeah i was getting da screenshot

i did the uhh

18:14

win7 shortcuts thing

18:14

i think that broke my start menu

it shouldn't break it

18:14

odd

18:15

try pinning stuff?

18:15

nah pinned shit works fine

18:15

search too

and it's back too trol

18:15

this though

18:15

no

oh that's back

18:15

uhhh

18:15

what

18:16

try removing the shortcuts folder?

18:16

that's odd

18:16

i would try copying a shortcut into there but i think that does not work

b

i removed even the back button!

Bro

now it's more useful!

is authui with tha

18:18

with tha

tha

18:18

what

background screen wallpaper

18:18

reality

maybe

18:18

most likely

what the fuck did i just say

18:18

no

Vruh 2

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Ex7for8?

what is background screen wallpaper

18:18

is authui with wallpaper becoming a reality

E2

Ex7for8?

it's sib

18:18

i'm on 8.1

Vruh 2

is authui with wallpaper becoming a reality

maybe

Oh yeah, just wanted to ask you that (edited)

modding authui is possible

18:19

obv uifiles so you are allergic to it @Vruh 2

logonui on xp is

18:19

100% uifiles

What is the used language? XAML?

some shit similar to css

WHO NEEDS AN ACCOUNT ANYWAY

18:20

duixml

18:20

so probably xaml

Vruh 2

some shit similar to css

So, custom?

if my calculations are correct

did they encrypt this shit

yes

18:21

use ui2asfhjuasfouasfhuasfuo

i'm gonna give microsoft a smack across the fucking face

check pins

18:21

for the decryptor

microsoft's getting chin checked

Is SIB included in the pack?

yep

18:21

not cracked obv

18:21

sib+ doesn't need a crack anyway

18:21

it's a broken mess

Ah, sure

da (edited)

I almost downloaded the 6 gb iso, and firefox fucking failed

gdrive?

I don't have enough nerves to cope with this internet speed and this mofo

18:42

Yeah, gdrive

i feel you

18:42

shit's terrible to download from

18:42

use IDM

18:42

with automatic download integration

18:42

it can download shit from gdrive and doesn't fail

what did 10 use to store the background

i have the same shit

for the login screen

I guess back to IDM, just like old days

18:43

hmmm tihiy

18:43

also which build are you downloading

18:43

or iso

8.1 2021, which SwordKing linked

ImSwordQueen

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aEW71YhWBGC4tdjZ1WXiwYxZLXvIkONt/view

This one

lol

Hmm disgusting black mode, what a new feature

they aren't wrong y'know

18:45

the 10 dark mode was dogshit (edited)

18:45

and still dogshit

18:45

honestly. they should've called it zebra mode

Holy shit, actually, good thing it failed

18:45

I was downloading an entirely different ISO

you were downloading 8.0 trol

That's right

the wrong os

the more based os*

18:47

fuck you windows 10

18:47

you're useless

18:47

and always will be

18:47

fuck you

Vruh 2

it can download shit from gdrive and doesn't fail

meanwhile when you download large files off gdrive and get the message "x is too large for google to scan viruses" clicking on download screen appends "&confirm=t" on the link

19:41

hehe. smol

big

why is this toxic green

because i choosen this green

20:32

and i haven't activated it

God authui is stupid

20:49

I now see why nobody wants to handle a piece of shit

20:49

Like

20:50

The color is really handled by something else

fuckauthuiallmyhomieshateauthui

There would need a miracle to find a way to implement it

21:25

Maybe Microsoft never removed the apis for the wallpaper as the lock screen wallpaper? Who knows

docR

You want a letter of commendation for Fournier University to pursue your major in kernel extending? @win32

There is no such institution.

21:58

Anyone who believes that there is would probably never make the cut at Everest, ITT or Trump.

backported the modded charms bar to 8.0

08:43

so i don't have the windows 8 logo visible in explorer :)

fancy.

ah yes. it's open in

ah yes, the usual file not locked properly

10:35

7-zip does it properly if anything

i hate u1

lol

11:03

messed up

basically modernmix on u1

11:14

well the cracked copy that is

1.12?

yes, 1.12

get real @Scamdisk

hot

nice

12:38

change ie icon

12:38

jk

12:38

that breaks sysprep, and assuming, activation

12:38

how do i know this? i tried doing that on 7mix

i mean

12:38

IE10 was already out in 2012

replace ie 11 with 10 instead

12:39

or 9

12:39

idk

9 impossible

12:39

that's 8.0 so 10 is already preinstalled

everything is possible

12:39

but at what cost?

Deleted User

but at what cost?

some metro apps

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

this a VM right?

yeah

12:40

i can't sideload apps on my main

12:40

and wscrack is death on 8.1

ah

12:40

would've mained this shit

i mean

12:41

you can

12:41

it's public

and doubt dev license would work for too long with 8400 apps

blue

Scamdisk

and doubt dev license would work for too long with 8400 apps

it would

12:42

you only need the license and the certificate

12:42

wscrack just enables the license

12:42

with unconventional ways

ImSwordQueen

you can

that would mean reformatting and reconfiguring windows and its just not worth it anymore

no, wscrack force enables LOB and tricks windows into thinking you're on a domain

what os do you have? @Deleted User

10 ltsc

12:42

stuck

oh

since a while

12:43

i'm promised a new pc by my parents

12:43

for uni

12:43

so like in july

windowblinds is cringe tbh, but that's the best it can be done on 10

but i expect i will end up with a third gen i5 or something kannagun

unless y'know

12:43

vruh or aat finds a way to resize the caption buttons on 8.x

12:44

and that way can be ported to 10

Deleted User

but i expect i will end up with a third gen i5 or something kannagun

not bad at all if so, it could run actual vista

now you get a haswell i5

lol

Scamdisk

not bad at all if so, it could run actual vista

yeah but that's not really a "new" pc is it

12:46

i mean vista's fun and all but i'm seeking to be able to work without ide's crashing on me

12:47

particularly when i'm seeking a degree that's literally pure computers lol

I'm getting a shit ton of bru.exe errors with 7tsp (edited)

15:49

And .NET 3.5 popups. I feel like this isn't ending good

yeah you need .net 3.5

the fact ms doesn't enable it by default or include the damn c++ and dx runtimes is still somewhat infuriating

just reapply the pack when you installed net 3.5

Nothing is to break right?

15:53

I don't feel like reinstalling again, already tortured this poor hitachi drive enough

It seems, 7tsp broke SIB and taskbar tweaker

Weird. It shouldn't do that

Lmao, and now SIB broke explorer. This is quite a clusterfuck

It worked for me when i tested it

16:17

this is with the failed net 3.5?

Yeah, with tons of 0x142 bru.exe errors

Thats why i included a warning to install net 3.5 first...

Welp, reinstall is mandatory

It isn't

16:18

Get net 3.5 somehow

16:18

And patch windows via 7tsp again

I did that, patching worked but these two still don't start

16:18

Okay, after a few crashes SIB suddenly did

With net 3.5 installed obv (edited)

@ImSwordQueen Sorry4ping, but do you have the pack wallpaper separately?

which one

16:33

the old one or new one?

New one

Beautiful, thanks

bruh. weren't you meant to be released with 8.0?

16:45

why aren't you compatible then

which update is this?

16:50

2012 has update releases

i think that's the rtm

rtm yep

it could've rtm'd before windows 8 idk

16:58

and then the first update made it "compatible" (edited)

still showing the error is silly

compiling it from source makes it more secure

I am confused. uDWM with left offset patch keeps sending dwm into a crash loop

how

I patched the dll from the ISO myself, and it happens again

17:37

Why

that's weird

17:37

because i'm using the same iso as you

17:37

for 8.1

17:38

and it worked

Surely there's no way AeroGlass causes this?

are you using secure ux theme or ultra ux theme?

I used the latter

Weird considering it works for me just fine, but then again, I installed a gen2 iso cuz lazy

OK BUT I WANTED TO PLAY THE FULL GMAE

17:39

WHY

which game lol

angry birds space

17:41

obv delisted

17:42

on cut the rope it unlocked all levels

17:42

so that's nice

17:44

obv i'm joking. why would it unlock all levels

17:44

bitch pay for a game that isn't even listed anymore

hack it

honestly. i would never play them fully so i don't care really

17:50

hm yes. the latest accessories

17:50

the latest gaming console

17:50

the latest ipad

17:50

the latest dslr

17:50

and... actually that didn't change too much

lol

I guess the centered stuff stays. I will reinstall next month

18:15

Before

18:16

After

E2

I guess the centered stuff stays. I will reinstall next month

Wincentertitle shows this

normal

18:46

you have to patch the left alignment yourself

I did, yet it dies, damn

try it without the theme?

After uninstalling aero 1.4.6 crashes don't happen

19:57

@ImSwordQueen Do you possibly have 1.2.5 cracked?

E2

@ImSwordQueen Do you possibly have 1.2.5 cracked?

i have 1.3.0 cracked if you want that

That would be very useful

E2

That would be very useful

Aero_Glass_1.3.0.7z

5.25 MB

README.txt

237 bytes

1

Isnt 1.3.0 for 8.0?

E2

I am confused. uDWM with left offset patch keeps sending dwm into a crash loop

you might've patched it wrong

yeah. it is (edited)

1.3.1 works on a plethora of 10 builds

06:56

from 9821 maybe to 9883

06:56

no idea about 9888

06:56

9926 def not

not even with 9909 udwm, that's a big doubt

uDWM is not the entirety of dwm

07:41

you know

ofc

man. i only modded explorer's mui and this fucking vm died

09:39

ty 8.0

09:39

ok now it showed explorer

09:39

but all the inputs are disabled

09:42

OK NOW EXPLORER WORKS WITHOUT MUI

09:42

TY WINDOWS FOR NOT USING MUIS RIGHT

09:42

get those steam notifs out my face windows

10:01

that's pretty close imo

both on the bri ish theme

yahe

10:05

wtf they got da realistic caption buttons???

(windows 7 does not exist)

10:07

but it does have the basedest of themes

10:08

gaaah damn

dies of cum

imagine if 8 succeeded (edited)

10:11

and all the cool themes were on 8.x instead

based

negative

10:15

because this theme was made in 2011

10:16

just like sonye (tha windows 2010 theme) and the other theme this guy made

10:21

GAAAH MMF DAMN!!!

10:21

YOOO

10:22

WTF IS START MENU WTF???? COMPLETELY RUINED

i like it

Looks cool

he even made tha little

10:24

cutout thing for the icon

prolly doesnt like it cause it doesnt have enough aero on the start menu

10:24

dream still #1

fuck dream

Vruh 2

but it does have the basedest of themes

bro

10:25

this is dream

o

the name of the theme is dream

10:28

going to win7

skip

fuck dream

fuck dream speedrun

time to reinstall 8.0 again because the explorer mui loves to troll me

11:33

and work half the time

windows 10 only

11:53

not

windows 8.1 with a windows 7 theme running a windows 10 only version of office

@ImSwordQueen here's the funny thing

11:56

windows 7 uses the theme atlas setting equivalent of title glow

11:56

that option on 8.1 is trash so we use theme settings

11:56

and cry about it

11:57

And what about 8.0?

perfect

11:58

it's perfect on 8.0

11:58

literally by default

11:58

you can't change the glow on 8.0 and it's perfect

If only the legacy file transfer dialog worked on 8.0

11:58

if only ayymd drivers were fixed

yah

skip

dies of cum

at least if you want to commit suicide make it feel good (edited)

lol

Scamdisk

if only ayymd drivers were fixed

especially since amd aint updating 7 drivers no more

12:36

it should be fixable without updates coming in

OF COURSE

12:59

I REINSTALL YOU

12:59

AND YOU WON'T WORK

ok somehow i can't get the mui method to work anymore on 8.0

13:19

literally it stays the same

13:23

THANK YOU WINDOWS FOR NOT EVEN TRYING

13:24

WHY THE HELL IS THIS BS BROKEN

13:24

holy shit

13:29

ok somehow my vm is cursed

13:29

Vruh 2

you might've patched it wrong

No, it was proper

14:08

I just had to use Aero 1.2.5 instead of 1.4.6

Meeeeeetroooooo

metro

how are you doing that

cook imageres

20:26

tutorial over

20:26

this will corrupt dwm as well

20:28

dies

I got videos to play on the xbox video app so maybe?

god taskmgr even with the damn nointegritycheck on still refuses to work

12:34

Rectify11 on 8.0

fuck you automatic repair

lool

@E2 wait are you really trying to add the caption atlas glow on 9x00?

Of course, lol

on 8.1 first right?

Yeah, 8.first

damn

16:19

you are going hard mode lol

I like how there are actually similarities between 7850 and 8.1's uDWM (edited)

for both stuff too.

E2

I like how there are actually similarities between 7850 and 8.1's uDWM (edited)

huh really?

Yeah, the createbitmapfromatlas has very similar structures, for one

so if you port it to 8.1

16:21

let's say

I expected total rework, but I guess an advantage is good (edited)

it would make it easier to port on 8.0 too right?

For sure there are going to be even more similarities, besides the weird GetLeftOffset moment

would be based if you somehow get it off

Maybe not too soon, but I'm determined

16:24

Especially since this transformation pack looks so good

E2

Maybe not too soon, but I'm determined

i'm pretty sure you will manage it to work (edited)

@E2 i also noted the existence of createbuttonglowsfromatlas

Good

is it on 8.1's uDWM?

18:14

i suppose not

18:14

i forgor

18:14

i remember seeing it on 7's uDWM

Did not find any traces of it yet

tried finding similar structures?

I know for sure there has to be work done in CTopLevelWindow

Vruh 2

tried finding similar structures?

Check #beta-windows

if not you could try actually implementing the function and getting the function calls in

Related structures are similar, but I'm looking for anything reminiscing atlasglow

checked pseudo?

Vruh 2

if not you could try actually implementing the function and getting the function calls in

If it doesn't exist, I guess that's what I have to do

it could be inlined for all we know

18:15

but i doubt it

I doubt too

18:16

GetLeftOffset has a reason to exist

18:16

Button glow on the other hand

18:17

Aero wizard uses GLO, ribbon apps do, I think (edited)

18:17

And programs can call it IIRC

18:18

For example, internet download manager does with the progress window

18:23

Maybe some other crap that makes it return 0 too

actually

19:00

if the left offset is <= 0 it just goes to the left by default

19:00

it returns 0

i wonder what paint.net uses for making the text left aligned

19:00

on the progress window it probably just goes to the left because it's too small

Vruh 2

on the progress window it probably just goes to the left because it's too small

It is certainly not too small

oh

19:03

oh shit

What advancements have been made here?

thank you 8.0

did some apps uninstall?

4 apps straight didn't get installed (edited)

16:06

and it's a new install too

16:06

yep. missing here too

16:07

apparently even reader isn't here

16:09

man. i have to reinstall to get those 4 apps back now (edited)

why do you torture yourself

says the guy

ImSwordQueen

says the guy

fucking stop

16:12

i changed it

that has windows 10

this is ltsc

you still have windows 10

die

ltsc bad

16:12

switch to windows 8

8 nuts in your

skip's mother

16:13

ha

who's skip

skip deez nutz

i skipped them

16:14

you accepted them wholeheartedly

no u

lol!!!!!!!!!!

16:15

@skip

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Does someone here have an 8 install with my 8.xto7 transformation installed?

i still do

23:42

the outdated one though

23:42

why

i did but removed it for some reason i forgor

bruh i'm retarded

09:47

i forgot to include the fixed shine version of the show desktop button

09:47

but i included the non shine version

09:48

i guess i really hate the shine version of the 7 theme trol

09:48

amoled explorer

@ImSwordQueen i think

15:32

the shiny version of the theme can be even more accurate

15:32

so

15:32

you know the shines and shit

how so

well

15:32

i snooped around 7's aero for some time now

15:33

and found out they don't run at full opacity not even in active windows

15:33

i'd need to

remake the borders

15:33

but thankfully this time i do have a way to test the fucking theme since i still have my 8.1 install

dies

@ImSwordQueen Look

15:36

literally almost invisible

you just discovered just now

barely fucking visible

when something epic is happening

15:37

dies *

what

15:37

this one actually makes me want to die

15:37

bruh

i suppose

15:38

time to make new borders

15:38

again

15:39

also

15:39

what is happening that is epic

15:40

also i wonder

15:40

textglowsize

15:40

glow intensity

15:40

these are THE theme settings

15:40

i wonder if i can

15:40

btw they actually perfectly match win7 but i still wonder

ImSwordQueen

when something epic is happening

nah it really changes almost nothing

15:52

i think 75% opacity is 255 -> 192 or 191

so no need for updating it?

idk i'm adding the side shines

15:53

it'll be up to you if it's really worth it

15:53

to me it looks the absolute same under paint.net

like

15:54

installer happening soon

15:54

so having a finished pack before this being finished helps

then i guess i'll give you the updated theme with slightly weaker shines

15:55

let me finish it

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

are you really making this?

someone is helping me

I really like that idea

it's really to prevent someone from stealing my fucking pack

it certainly makes things easier for people that aren't experienced with modding Windows

15:58

okay, that too

making all automatic will make recreating it almost impossible

p.s

16:00

did you put on the fixed metrics

yeah

16:00

already did

instead of the skinny ass border and 22 size buttons

it would be most likely be the one you gave me

16:04

bruh somehow i can't connect to any 8400 app anymore (edited)

16:04

and the patch doesn't work anymore

16:04

@ImSwordQueen keep tha og theme

16:23

it looks dead with the 75% opacity shit on 8.1

16:23

almost flat really

Alr

I had that error appear often on Windows 7

i'm cooking authui to show a background

12:31

if only i had the ported 7's authui on hand to check if porting 8.0's stuff from that would do something else

12:31

but the person that has it

12:32

straight doesn't want to give any info about it

12:32

or how they fixed it

12:32

so i'm here

12:32

guessing

12:33

when the guessing work was already done

microsoft still hosts the winstoreUI.dll debug symbols huh

ok i found out that the background is drawn by the dll itself and not by uifiles

16:27

so this is very out of my reach sadly.

16:31

@E2 you should take a look at authui

I have to revisit some ASM stuff first, and finish my exams (edited)

ImSwordQueen

making all automatic will make recreating it almost impossible

until some 13 year old pulls up a string view in ida that shows all the paths

09:59

Michael

until some 13 year old pulls up a string view in ida that shows all the paths

If they go that way to steal it then they are wasting their time

ImSwordQueen

If they go that way to steal it then they are wasting their time

I want to maked Windows 7.1 theme for my Windows 11 Home so I will used Ida Pro to steal the pictures from this theme...

What

10:28

drunk or stroke?

10:29

or just... really fast typing

ImSwordQueen

drunk or stroke?

joke

oh

10:32

i had to guess that.

Michael

until some 13 year old pulls up a string view in ida that shows all the paths

it's possible that the strings may not be in the code/data sections, but in the string table of rsrc section which ida will not detect.

10:54

you would use a loadresource/loadstring type function to get those strings

10:55

but then it would be possible for someone using a resource editor to look it up, unless you put it in system32 so resource hacker can't find it

13:29

betawiki cooking team be like

sometimes i wonder what sorcery is that

yeah. you tried getting starter for months but here we got it in less than a windows install time (edited)

you mean corearm

13:36

because that's what i tried to get that one time

didn't you tried starter too?

no?

oh.

13:37

@ImSwordQueen Do you have 8102 x64 ATM?

yeah i do

18:47

what do you need from it

Mind sending me The dll? (edited)

udwm?

Haha, you get it

18:48

It's the first build with symbols that has no glow

uDWM.dll

711.5 KB

18:52

Can you post aero.msstyles too?

Okay, postponing this for June. The atlas stuff gets interesting

aero.msstyles

1.58 MB

The glow functionality still seems to be present in 8102's uDWM

19:02

I'll have to see by adding some textures to the atlas resource

looks cool

time to reinstall 8.1

19:44

for funnies

19:44

i hope this iso doesn't require a key

19:44

and it does

19:44

damn it

waiting...

20:19

@Vruh 2 look at this clean UI

20:20

20:21

stupid STUPID UI

20:21

INSTALL PACK!!!!!!

first let me install vmware tools

20:21

so i can get the funny going

20:21

it will take me less than 2 hours? to transform it

20:22

even 1 hour if this vm isn't going to be slow af

but the

20:22

installwer

20:22

wtfff

what installer

20:23

i'm going to do this manually

the Pack Installer

20:23

WTF!!!!!!!

with a gaming chair

20:23

nah i will just use my gaming chair trol

20:24

this is what it looks now

that's not how it's going to look like soon

gaming chair gaming

good game gaming

20:25

(starcraft 2 pro team)

Vruh 2

that's not how it's going to look like soon

That's how

incorrect

20:25

i can sense that is 8.0

Sike.

that's the wrong number

that looks like 8.1

it's 8.1

taskbar is too 8.1-ish

my life be like

Vruh 2

that's the wrong number

Ooh ooooooooooh

welp time to go sleep while i'm transforming my 8.1 vm into 7 with the power of sleep gaming

20:26

wtf !!!!

jk. i have to check if something fails

20:26

failure of sleep gaming

I've spent a solid hour skinning 8.1 alive :D

E2

I've spent a solid hour skinning 8.1 alive :D

it will take less than that for me trol

Worth it, I can't look at windows 10 anymore

8056 da first build since a long tike to actually boot on modern hardware

no spoilers about the secret powers of gaming chairs

E2

Worth it, I can't look at windows 10 anymore

i can look at it all day

With windowBlinds, yes

as gifid ndont check the disk bet abuild

E2

With windowBlinds, yes

Or if it's Threshold 10 troll

stretch ass

20:29

it said GO!

20:29

in all caps like that

20:34

hello @ImSwordQueen

wtf 8056!!!!!

wtf!!!

20:34

where can i acquire redlock for this build

20:34

Where

20:37

gooot it

20:39

theme out here looking kinda foolish

man. transforming windows 8.1 while gaming is sure fun

nah but fr tho

20:41

the captions look kinda strange on this build

yeah they do

dwm still dies

try 8888

@Vruh 2

21:10

it took 1 hour

21:10

i was right trol

21:14

i have such a good gaming chair

life

the desktop behind the slaugher lol

WTF STORE ICON!!!

lean metro

wtf SMALLER STORE ICON!!

uhm

dwm skill issue

screw you. dwmless metro

what tf!!!

also that hover image

22:49

ong

22:50

kinda got me wanting to do a square frame on ps (edited)

DonE!!!!

time for funnies

ImSwordQueen

https://winclassic.boards.net/thread/1147/windows-file-copy-dialog-dwm

kills new accounts metro now trol

(the already compiled version) (edited)

11:12

even the ms confidential one kills new accounts

waiting for here to load...

finished patching it. took only 4-5 hours (edited)

fuck you.

pov

ImSwordQueen

finished patching it. took only 4-5 hours (edited)

Why so long

E2

Why so long

Caching "fuctions" ok

16:28

for 5 hours

ImSwordQueen

fuck you.

Also, same. My patch also didn't work for some reason

ImSwordQueen

Caching "fuctions" ok

Shouldn't take that long. My ancient AMD does it in 10 minutes

IT'S THE SAME TOO

16:29

WHY DON'T YOU WORK

16:29

fuck this

16:29

i'm done

ImSwordQueen

Caching "fuctions" ok

it REALLY shouldn't take that long

16:36

are you doing this on some shitty ASS 2 core processor or some shit

idfk what happened

16:37

it took 4 hours

then again shell32 probably has a bajillion functions compared to uDWM

16:37

uDWM takes about 30 seconds to cache everything for me

udwm doesn't take long for me too

Vruh 2

then again shell32 probably has a bajillion functions compared to uDWM

It should never take more than 20 minutes anyway

yeah

How big is the file?

which one

16:38

the dll is 21mb

16:38

the i64 is 172mb (edited)

Scamdisk

Click to see attachment 🖼️

get real

ImSwordQueen

the dll is 21mb

Okay, that should not be hours worth disassembling

Scamdisk

Click to see attachment 🖼️

How the hell do you guys do this?

16:39

Is it some SKU alchemy science?

imagine if ultimate was still there

16:40

8250

16:40

8400 has starter trol

(edited)

would had done it with update 1, but no coreconnected, it's variations and professionalstudent

wait. these skus are from microsoft. so does that mean they are legal builds?

it's some shit related to OS repair or some shit

is ThinPC included for 9200 right?

yes, just can't get it to work

also shit somehow activated itself

LOL WHAT

16:44

you have a legal copy of 8.1 starter

yeah it literally did

16:44

check with slmgr

16:44

what key is installed

the default starter key

16:45

straight out of product.ini

imagine if they never locked it from activating (edited)

Scamdisk

also shit somehow activated itself

i mean when i installed visual studio 2012 ultimate from MS it came activated trol

16:47

never bought a licence for that lol

oh wait you need to activate it?

yeah ultimate is paid

ty microsoft trol

express is free but still needs activation for some reason lol

also vl license.rtf for some reason

transform it into 7 trol

my question is will that transfer into a free windows 10 home licence trol

16:49

i do have a boxed copy of 10 home for some reason lol

this starter do be so complete it activated itself

still thinking they never locked it

16:50

so that's why it activated

16:50

and probably it activated a starter sku for the first time since 2014

yeah i wonder

16:51

still free windows trol

i wonder

16:52

if the product.ini keys worked for activating (edited)

WinDVD

still free windows trol

Windows Insider moment

imagine not having all pro skus licenses on 1 laptop

signing up for that with a ms account literally gives you free Windows

ty hwid activations trol

Scamdisk

signing up for that with a ms account literally gives you free Windows

but maining the leaning tower of windows 11 but now its beta

ImSwordQueen

ty hwid activations trol

fr best way

you don't have to use the insider builds to get free windows right from MS

windows 8 only gets KMS activation Rip

8.1 Starter:

and mak

how does one even get 8.1 starter

here's the thing: you don't

oh?

can you upload an iso of it?

jk i have it

i must know

SKU alchemy

betawiki SKU cooking alchemy

i would love to test scuffed 8.1

ImSwordQueen

betawiki SKU cooking alchemy

better than MDL

where do you get the ISO though that is the question

release 8.1 starter to web archive and see how many people will say it's fake trol

i got the files and i've done a MDL-style arson on it

16:56

aka reconstructing the whole thing

so it did exist previously?

MS "internal"

oh hmm

because the files were on WU all along

sounds like a pain ngl

oh yeah and i have files for 8.1 startern and serverweb as well

how do you even do these types of cooking

you don't /s

Scamdisk

you don't /s

How do you do if you don't?

16:59

Brain shatter

17:00

Genuine question, is starter the SKU all other SKU's are built off?

well it is the base sku, yes

So it still exists in one way or another, to this day? (edited)

yes, it exists in 11 internally, yes

17:01

the newest thing we can get starter for tho is 16199

waiting for 11 starter to leak

Scamdisk

yes, it exists in 11 internally, yes

Nice

17:03

As they say, gotta "start" off somewhere

branding wasnt updated tho

17:06

so it's still calling itself 10 Starter (edited)

Yeah, obviously

did they update PPIPRO though?

yes, they did in nickel

17:08

branding string only tho

17:09

they just dont know if to kill it or not

it took less time now. time do see if i failed again or i succeeded at it.

what's the best way to install .net 4.8 on windows 8.0?

@Scamdisk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FImq_VqUeLbqI5UtWonRfmewLQVHiW3V/view don't run this by itself

.NET 4.8 Installer for so called unsupported OSes.exe

18:22

instead extract it

18:22

download the offline .net 4.8 installer and extract that too

18:23

run regedit as trustedinstaller and delete the keys mentioned in the reg files

18:23

run the full x64 msi

18:23

from the offline installer

would it be possible to do all of this in setup mode?

then import the regs

18:24

then run the DotNet48Stuff.exe thing and point it to C:\Windows\

18:24

obviously still as Trustedinstaller

18:24

replace all if asked

had to replace a few files with cmd

18:48

but I think I did everything right

cool

epic

19:35

.net 4.8 works

19:36

but can’t install rollups for it

got it

20:40

I just need to use dism for .net 4.8 rollups

https://www.mydigitallife.net/add-windows-8-user-tile-picture-avatar-on-taskbar-of-windows-7-and-vista/

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03:40

Does someone still have this?

https://softpedia-secure-download.com/dl/a0051881d6dc1ace5e73c01a9edf6a4a/628da6f5/100197105/software/system/taskbar_usertile_by_angelwzr_d3dcdoe.7z

get real

05:07

also yeah, starter activating itself seems to be a 8.1 quirk

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

this looks gore

ImSwordQueen

this looks gore

and apparently it's too gore that wsb crashes when i try to test it

8.0 startern clearly holds the record for the smallest amount of target skus in a starter

Isn't it the same as 7?

15:44

Oh wait nvm

15:44

All home skus and ultimate exist too

that's 7, on 8.0 it's literally just 4 other N skus

15:45

aside from StarterN

Yeah

15:46

I forgor

gonna do this anyway, even tho it's the most uninteresing one

Wait

maybe who knows, 9200 AIO

Were you integrating thinPC on client 8?

i tried on both client 8 and embedded 8

15:47

both didn't work

Oh....

15:47

Try server 2012 trol

doubt Server to Embedded conversion is gonna work either

Yeah

anyway lemme guess, you want 9200 AIO

Honestly. having a 9200 starter iso would be cool already

what about isos of all 3 base skus

Starter core and coreARM?

Starter, StarterN and ServerWeb

Would make sense if they all have the packages for the other skus

15:52

So you only need those 3 skus to upgrade to the sku you want

all sku packages are in the repair thing (edited)

15:52

just can't do embedded shit due to that been a hot mess

Imagine an iso only with starter

and there's no base sku for those

But for every build that has starter

that would be bootleg level stuff

Windows starter AIO trol

15:54

All betas in 1 trol

15:54

And all starter trol

iso would be bigger than actual 11 isos are

Yeah obv

15:55

48gb in esd form maybe?

with this shit i gotta uninstall and reinstall the damn LP because haha weird happening if you don't

Unironically

15:58

If you release the 9200 starter iso

15:58

I would try and make it into 7 starter

there's gonna be issues with releasing the 9600 one, considering ya know

15:58

the fact it literally activates itself

Free activation trol

what about making RT x64 into 7 /s

16:00

absolutely illegal image

16:01

try making that 7 branding but with 8 skus for all of them as a joke /s

basicn't

startern

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kTBDh_pwm1Sy7_scNvjUPXu5DyBCB7fe/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K-O8vTQdlTOLbQwMBClsuQrG20xUN8cN/view?usp=sharing

9200 Starter.iso

9200 StarterN.iso

17:25

@ImSwordQueen sorry for ping, but here it is, chief (edited)

time to delete the curses

no

17:26

this is what you wanted, right

yes

serverweb coming later™️

Cursed

thanks to the usual MS incompetence, it was possible after all

can you upgrade to any sku with these versions of starter right?

yes

makes making 2022-05 easy trol

any that are defined within their sections in editionmatrix.xml

17:30

makes redoing 2021-02 with Enterprise and CoreSingleLanguage easy too (edited)

17:31

and N editions as well

A stupid idea popped up in my mind. I want to make a cursed mod of Win 8

17:40

With starter SKU, left title bars, 8056 theme, title bar glow bug etc

If you want it real cursed, use RT instead

Yeah that's better lol

17:41

Hmm, what more to think of

Text size at 9 perhaps

17:43

Oh yeah and ex7forw8 and usertile

Also using the older flag everywhere

17:43

Can't wait until end of exams

17:44

Ribbon from 7 beta would be very cursed, unfortunately that part I haven't figured out

17:46

+confidential watermark, NET 4.8

17:47

Seemingly for the watermark I can just borrow shell32 from 8441

or check pinned messages

And maybe figure out this button glow stuff

ImSwordQueen

or check pinned messages

Ah, that's handy

with the new 2021-02 iso it doesn't work strangely

~~Maybe change 6.2 to 6.1~~ (edited)

17:50

Too much usability and security to sacrifice though

6.3 however

I'm afraid that might break drivers and stuff, but I'll try for fun

17:54

I need to make a patched CI pack anyway

That would be real great

17:55

Making modding Explorer's icon without it shitting itself possible

or without using muis

19:41

that will break when you change language

19:41

i lost the wallpaper

19:42

if only i could set it back up... oh wait i cannot

i lost the wallpaper and i can't get it back

19:55

ty windows

20:01

is it unlicensed or licensed? trol

E2

With starter SKU, left title bars, 8056 theme, title bar glow bug etc

8056 theme kinda ugly

20:41

just kinda

20:41

but i guess it adds up to the cursed part

isnt 8056 just windows 7 but not

no

20:43

it's 8102 that didn't believe hard enough

WinDVD

isnt 8056 just windows 7 but not

windows 8 stops being windows 7 but not quite early on

8102 has le ugly start button

you'll get lynched for that but honestly i kinda agree

20:46

it looks kinda fugly

un-redpilled

20:46

do you know what redlock is

no idea

it unlocks metro

20:46

on early builds

oh it exists in early builds?

20:47

i didnt even know that lol

redlock.exe

808 KB

20:47

yeah

20:47

give it a try

20:47

don't you have like

20:47

8002

yeah

20:47

ill try it real quick

20:50

metro windows 7 is cursed trol

told you

20:50

now look at the theme

20:50

it should be different

WinDVD

8102 has le ugly start button

it isn't bad though...

20:52

it acts as mini charms bar

20:52

and big charms bar because i can't get the big charms bar to appear

its the exact same

win shift c?

WinDVD

its the exact same

mate

20:52

open up a window

20:52

wtf

i thought you meant the start bar i didnt even open a window trol

also slightly edited painter 8056 theme

20:53

yeah its different

that's the early DP theme

ImSwordQueen

it isn't bad though...

eh i prefer RTM 8 for sure, or just good ol win 7 button trol

20:55

i actually do like how these betas look

@E2 you can see the titlebar bug better here

i mean the slight differences in unredpilled version

20:56

home basic with aero trol

20:56

did home basic have aero?

no

20:56

it's a bug

too much trolling

WinDVD

eh i prefer RTM 8 for sure, or just good ol win 7 button trol

That has no button

yeah i know

21:10

i meant i prefer the no button

21:11

well i mean technically there is a button its just invisible and very small trol

Vruh 2

@E2 you can see the titlebar bug better here

It looks cool on non-extended aero titlebars, tbh

yeah

ServerWeb Core

now prepare for the worst

06:56

multipoint standard core (edited)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PglC5Qa9avPXj-jOn4tWlZxfACVsSzXy/view?usp=sharing

9200 ServerWeb.iso

07:40

and the 9200 base sku set is complete

07:40

this ISO includes both ServerCore and ServerGUI options

yup, these defo can be updated

IE tile ded

don't you love 8.1 already having problems even before installing? (edited)

ah yes, my favorite driver

task manager

welp nvm was gonna make a trademark joke

if we uninstall the trademark driver then copyright wouldn't exist trol

time to see if the claim of that EFI loader that it can activate 9200 ServerWeb holds any water

Scamdisk

Click to see attachment 🖼️

is this official?

no, but yes

while i can't release starter, i will release this

And no, just because it's RT doesnt mean funny start menu

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Sorry it's architecture specific

13:00

Meaning Starter on ARM can have the funny start menu

U1 on funnie

18:00

it was a spp thing @Scamdisk

Guessing a Win7 leftover

yep

That other skus don't have

18:01

this thing

18:01

now i can set every wallpaper

18:01

an eye for an eye i guess

and obviously it can't install net 3.5

18:30

fuck me

Not even with DISM? (edited)

i can't use dism because i was trying to patch with 7tsp (edited)

18:31

but it downloaded it now

18:31

so it doesn't matter in the end

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Windows 8

Starter

ofc corearm wouldn't support enabling .net 3.5 (edited)

09:03

pouring the icons in manually it is then

0/10 not actual ARM32 Windows RT

can't get aero glass on that soo (edited)

been working on something

wtf windows r8mix 2?!?!?!?!?!?!

18:20

unironically that looks good still (edited)

yea I really like this

r8mix starter when /s

I initially thought it would be funny and cursed but I actually like how this looks after looking at my progress

that was my reaction too. fluent with aero on 8.0 looks a match somehow

once I'm finished, I'll release a pack with the modded files

18:24

might make this for 8.1 too if I feel like it

wtf based and redpilled?

are folder previews fucked or did you somehow fixed them?

18:25

or disabled

they look tore up trol

18:26

man. on 11 with 10 resources the previous look fine

18:26

but i don't know what dll generates them

18:26

ye I want to figure out what renders those previews

18:27

and hopefully make it fit those folder resources

you can make them generate like what windows 11 22h2 does trol

what does 22h2 do?

18:31

they are better than the cobalt ones still. there you don't even get a preview

that looks really nice

18:35

there is a weird issue I have on this 8.0 install tho

18:35

somehow I broke ctrl shift esc launching task manager

~~explorer reverting to the old icon?~~ (edited)

I actually have no issues with the explorer icon

Ximonite

somehow I broke ctrl shift esc launching task manager

lol how

bruh idk

18:36

I put the new explorer icon in the mui

with scamdisk's iso probably there is an explorer mui cached somewhere

18:36

that idk (edited)

18:36

because the fucker won't change no matter what

I used a msdn iso

yeah embedded. i see

ImSwordQueen

with scamdisk's iso probably there is an explorer mui cached somewhere

but then on my laptop it changed fine doom

18:40

joking even here it happens

18:40

what's wrong with you stupid idot

18:42

i wonder if that's an upgrade sku thing

I have a different idea for the explorer previews

19:22

I could rotate the folder icons trol

19:24

also i hate the fact you used the 11 logo too. so you broke microsoft's rules about the windows logo

it doesn't say 8.0 though

19:26

so it might be safe trol

Guidelines so strict that they wouldnt even use older logos in bootux

19:27

So have a Window with the OS number instead

19:29

Office 2012... hm

@Ximonite here ya go

somebody_is_watching_me.7z

2.5 MB

ImSwordQueen

it doesn't say 8.0 though

It doesn't say Vista or ME either

20:34

nor does it say 2000

just 8.1 and 10

me when arson gets updates

wtf arson

@ImSwordQueen Sorry to ping, would it be possible for you to post that theme? https://discord.com/channels/305415513503432705/880811907932626975/980188900259688459

13:53

I would modify, but I don't how to, yet

sure let me turn the vm on

13:53

if it's not dead because of the missing shell32 mui

13:54

i only ported some stuff from 8064's theme port by painter

13:54

on AeroConP

Painter made themes too?

yeah

13:56

he fucking ported all 8.x themes to 7

13:57

or probably almost all of them (edited)

13:59

@E2

Aero8064.msstyles

1.12 MB

Thanks

15:51

By the way, how'd you get that start button?

E2

I would modify, but I don't how to, yet

i'm p shit with wsb but what necessarily do you want to modify

I meant modifying the 8 theme to look like this, like SwordKIng told to that guy on betawiki

well

15:54

you have the msstyles for it

15:54

so i suppose there is no need for it?

I do now, yeah

i wish there was a working way to port 7 themes to 8.1 semi-automated

15:55

because the method pinky sent me really doesn't work

Is the format similar enough for that? Don't know much about themes

not really

Fair

I realized that

23:30

8.1's taskbar is more transparent than 8.0's

contains both the 8.0 and 8.1 versions of the modded charms bar that look like DP's

8888888.7z

153.55 KB

time to experiment with the vm software that doesnt allow no time sync

13:36

ah yes, sponsored by shitdock

ah yes, automatic tools install

arson

nice fake wu dialog (edited)

13:58

ah yes, the slightly better vmware unity mode

windows on mac Flushball

mfw thing downright adds Windows tray to MacOS

scuffed but great

that's why i said it's slightly better unity mode

Mac OS X Starter

mavericks starter (edited)

14:01

about to commit becomus RTus (edited)

14:03

start screen on MacOS

14:04

not very stable, eh?

ImSwordQueen

contains both the 8.0 and 8.1 versions of the modded charms bar that look like DP's

Have a screenshot?

(edited)

what

21:40

lies

22:43

Soonish?

Scamdisk

start screen on MacOS

I love the look of this

‍

11:01

time for 22621 adk i guess

11:02

inb4 22621 dism still runs on Vista

11:04

11:39

now if only

soon™️

installed competent enough ayymd drivers i guess (edited)

ayymd drivers on 8.0 wtffff

still waiting for a fix to the last 7 driver (edited)

11:42

tip to avoid wallpaper bug: either disable animations or avoid slideshows

It will still happen

i would release 2022-05 8.0, but meh, i think it might be better to wait till june's patch tuesday to release 2022-06 8.0 instead

Not a lot though

also here's another workaround to starter wallpaper "bug": wallpaper engine (edited)

Or cook spp

former doesn't need spp cooking

11:44

but then again

i mean. Can you activate starter at all

what's the point when you can't even activate

Exactly

it isn't 8.1 where for some reason it activates

11:45

Guessing activation servers still accepting 8.1 online activation requests (edited)

11:45

As it's still supported after all

Scamdisk

also here's another workaround to starter wallpaper "bug": wallpaper engine (edited)

Does authui get updated in the affected updates?

Scamdisk

Guessing activation servers still accepting 8.1 online activation requests (edited)

even on 8.0 it does that

It seems, authui is responsible for drawing the wallpaper

wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Then guess they did an oopsie and forgor to blacklist 8.1 starter default key

E2

It seems, authui is responsible for drawing the wallpaper

or do as genshingamer1234 said: upgrade to 10 LTSC

If you want to, I just wondered

i was joking

11:52

we haven't tested authui if that does something though

11:52

so that might be useful to test

I saw wallpaper sizing functions in authui (edited)

11:53

Fit, stretch, etc

I wonder if authui is also responsible for the damn animation

It probably is

anyway

lemme download the starter iso and test it on my fresh install of the 2021-02 iso with additional updates

ImSwordQueen

anyway

shit will look lit

That's the installer thing? Looks cool

had to pin those isos (edited)

11:56

gonna see if replacing authui with the 9200.16384 version will do something

11:57

then try the 2021-02 version

11:57

actually might be better to try the 2021-02 version first

E2

That's the installer thing? Looks cool

yep

yup, authui does get updated

2021-02 on the left, 2022-05 on the right

11:59

lemme go into winre and do a quick file replacement

12:00

Obivously backing up the 2022-05 one incase something goes wrong

12:03

Nope, it's not authui

12:03

As it's still happening

12:04

It's not the wallpaper itself that's broken, but that damn animation

this is weird af

Whatever's animating the drawing, is getting messed with (edited)

8.x moment (edited)

Also suggest taking a look at these

ImSwordQueen

8.x moment (edited)

and it restarted

The latter If replaced, results in a cooked desktop

12:06

Also don't think it's twinapi

IDA asks for those for some reason

windows.UI.immersive is for the color of the background for sure (edited)

12:07

twinapi probably too

Wouldn't hurt to try

true

Windows.UI.Immersive might require a lot more to be replaced for it to work properly

probably most likely the uifiles

Windows.UI.Immersive is related to the metro apps, right?

there's more than that related to them, but yes

Obviously

12:10

ImSwordQueen

8.x moment (edited)

and i thought everything was going great

12:10

i was wrong

12:10

fuck me

E2

xenophobia, the solution to everything according to these people

why china doe

12:11

i know china's evil and all

don't think china is related to the russia-ukraine war

Wtf???

12:11

I can't access jack shit, lmao

too much xenophobia in the world

12:12

at least companies like discord were nice enough to only block nitro payments and not the entire platform

Fuck it, I guess

what were you trying to do?

12:13

oh i see

Wanted to find something about immersive.UI

and no vpns work?

Any VPN is painfully slow today. I guess they are doing something against VPN's

vpns usually sussy, but in situations like this, i see their worth

I'll just fire up a proxy

lemme guess, US and Chinese goverments trying to eradicate VPNs to be able to spy better

Scamdisk

don't think china is related to the russia-ukraine war

I think it's related to the China-Taiwan situation

Scamdisk

lemme guess, US and Chinese goverments trying to eradicate VPNs to be able to spy better

More like our ISP's ridding us of it

9841 with 9845/9834/9821 shell32 moment (edited)

12:20

actually fuck it, maybe replacing every windows.ui dll and twinui related stuff

Who will teach me debugging /s

nope, replacing windows.ui.immersive.dll and it's dependencies did not fix the bug

Noted

it's defo not dwm that's responsible for that animation either

12:42

after all, that's the thing that barely got updated

12:48

ok seems like application verifier does work against latest VS installers

12:49

ok spoofing it to 10 1507 does bypass the update requirement

12:49

12:50

now time to see if i can actually install it and get it to work

13:09

ofc it really wants .net 4.8 installed

13:09

lemme just force it rq

automaticn't

i see the transformation pack exe

nah

19:58

that's just a folder

19:58

you're seeing things

"Win8T- Transfo-"

seeing things

20:10

i clearly didn't send any preview before

20:10

never did

alright then

anyone know why I can’t install office on server 2012?

15:25

I get this error with 2019 ltsc and mondo

15:27

@Scamdisk do you know shit about office?

i tried getting it to work on client, no luck

I know this online installer works on 8.0

15:30

It worked with embedded

I think I might have gotten an office installer to work properly

nice

"transforming windows"

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/8487cd84-a894-ff4d-33c9-acbacd9c910b

19:13

Microsoft appears to have deleted these apps

It seems they recently destroyed this page (edited)

19:31

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/8487cd84-a894-ff4d-33c9-acbacd9c910b

Windows 8 and 8.1 Microsoft Store app package updates available for...

Outlines the default Windows Store apps release cycle for administrators.

#RadMorning pinned a message to this channel. 02/06/2022 19:32

Windows 8.0 app on Windows 8.1

@#RadMorning welp lucky for me i archived the page on web archive already (edited)

19:58

and on may too

19:58

i don't think it's the right one but anyway

I had already tried to search it up via the web archive

19:59

but I didn't get this

weird because i archived it in 2022 too

the page is also mostly useless except the KB numbers

yeah

19:59

i will archive the msis themselves later

alrighty

20:00

I thought I'd look at the Music and Video apps so I could a great Metro experience

20:00

but then I realized how much I hate the stupid Xbox integration thing

i wonder if you can get a version of zune video newer than the one here

20:01

because it requires an update

20:01

but where is it getting that update from

probably on a server Microsoft forgot about years ago

WTF

Morbius on Windows 8

MORB???

20:06

YALL BETTER GET MORBED NOW!!!

i think i found the last update for 8.0

20:10

of ZuneVideo

is it worth having?

20:14

it isn't complaining about updates anymore

20:14

so for me yeah

20:15

OK I FOUND WHAT THE 6 IN THE LIVE TILE WAS

20:15

FUCK YOU ZUNE VIDEO

20:16

literally it's not begging me to update nothing anymore

20:16

totally worth it

20:16

10/10

20:17

ok zune music is the same as the msi one

20:17

so no need for it

20:18

MORBUS!!!

20:22

THE MOVIE THAT GOT 10 MORBILLIOM DOLLAR!!

the amount of ads!!!

i didnt watch morbius but i enjoyed it

?

i realized

20:28

google didn't pull the vista thing on 8.x

20:28

also firefox too but ESR is the way to go

00:09

We're just getting started

Ladies and gentlemen

21:36

the moment is here

21:36

the private beta of win8to7 is here

21:40

Known issues:

No Start Menu screenshots yet
Jump Lists issue in 8.1 without SIB+, but that's not on us
'View Credits' does not yet respect High Contrast properly Download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vAEIGfci0tSKU_-DySDdKjvEhpyOzzN2/view?usp=sharing

~~dammit should've misspelt 'us' as 'sus'~~

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

~~dammit should've misspelt 'us' as 'sus'~~

:reverse:

anyway, go test ig

22:17

its got lotsa work put into (edited)

ImSwordQueen

the private beta of win8to7 is here

>private

It's private that the link is public

22:46

But im trusting you to not give it outside of here

ok

ImSwordQueen

But im trusting you to not give it outside of here

Can I give the link to my cat?

So, I can't help but notice the atlas texture is really weak

19:46

19:47

And I can't adjust it further with AeroGlassGUI

19:47

Any other way?

19:49

So it would look like this at least

E2

So, I can't help but notice the atlas texture is really weak

that's weird

20:12

that's on 9600 right?

Yeah, 8.1

that's kinda odd.

20:13

probably is a color thing?

Nope

20:35

i had the same thing

That's really weird

ImSwordQueen

Known issues:

No Start Menu screenshots yet
Jump Lists issue in 8.1 without SIB+, but that's not on us
'View Credits' does not yet respect High Contrast properly Download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vAEIGfci0tSKU_-DySDdKjvEhpyOzzN2/view?usp=sharing

3.0 Pre-RC:

You can't yet customise the installed Windows 8 to Windows 7 Transformation Pack's options without uninstalling it beforehand https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vAEIGfci0tSKU_-DySDdKjvEhpyOzzN2/view?usp=sharing

(edited)

Win8To7 Transformation Pack.exe

ImSwordQueen pinned a message to this channel. 08/06/2022 19:11

look ma! like milestone 1!

We are getting started at making Rectify7 real

whats there to rectify its literally the most consistent windows release ever

look at the channel

skip

whats there to rectify its literally the most consistent windows release ever

it's not windows 8

23:05

that's the issue

fuck

23:10

is that windows 8 with a 7 skin

yes

lmao

the most accurate at that

are you basing it on a beta build or what

23:10

why the silly ahh account picture in da taskbar

that's 9200

23:11

nah it was for a meme that

funny number

23:11

what does 9200 mean

23:11

i dont remember each and every windows build ever

8.0

unlike most people here

23:11

ok

9600 is 8.1

23:11

and 6969 is what your father did to your mother

23:11

shut up????????1?2??382>$*%,》♤▪︎♤

23:12

■●■□■□■□■■●■●■□♤¥¥

i regret

23:25

the theme

23:25

: )

23:25

this is just rectify 8.1 then

No

yeah

No

because you're not rectifying 7

No

you're just slapping 7 (the good os) onto 8.1 (the bad ui os)

/srs ultra /srs

23:26

7 is supreme

Lies

truth

8 conP theme better

negative

On 8.x

flattened aero

U used it

(i say this using the conp theme on 7)

So

23:27

Positive

negative

23:27

because i'm back on 7 aero

Me after dropping pennies

23:27

I can't handle change

Vruh 2

because i'm back on 7 aero

Source

truth

23:28

source:me

Proof

This better anyway

No

23:28

Release Preview Aero Bad

Negative

best theme

Dr5

negative

Not Dr4

alpha release

Not doctor pepper

23:30

0/10

23:31

Also no lean

23:31

And no mug rootbeer

23:31

-99999999/10

(edited)

23:31

double embed classic bug

get real

Vruh 2

double embed classic bug

mine double embeds just about every time

00:37

it never did that until like the past year or so

me too

Would someone know how to install fonts from 8 Beta in 8.1?

E2

Would someone know how to install fonts from 8 Beta in 8.1?

go into PE

17:11

replace the fonts folder with the 8 beta one

17:11

with overwriting

17:11

so you don't break stuff

Yeah, that's the strange part, 8.1 reverts the fonts once I boot up

weirdly enough I was just able to install Segoe over Segoe with the Font Installer

I had no issue replacing fonts with older Windows, but 8.1 seems to be the only one reverting

@Scamdisk have you tried 9385 on amd by any chance

@ImSwordQueen 9385 does not fix the bsod

21:33

crying in the corner;

rip

i would try 9415 but it probably has tha bsod too

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

3.0 Pre-RC:

You can't yet customise the installed Windows 8 to Windows 7 Transformation Pack's options without uninstalling it beforehand https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vAEIGfci0tSKU_-DySDdKjvEhpyOzzN2/view?usp=sharing

(edited)

Update: FINALISED VERSION IS NEARLY DONE. (edited)

00:30

me when

@Vruh 2 you have an another bugcheck friend

i have a what

deez nutz

no

23:42

that's not how you play the game

agree

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

that's not how you play the game

it's not about the game

10:14

It's about sending a message

Windows 8 to Windows 7 Transformation Pack 3.0 will release: Tomorrow. (hopefully) With a lot of improvements and changes present, it will be the definitive way to get the Windows 7 look and feel in Windows 8 and 8.1. (edited)

the max such thing would cap at would be 1836x (edited)

16:43

due to no aero glass for 1904x and 20348

16:43

even then, some 1909 updates did break glass

random teaser of 3.0, unique for each server I posted that in I guess: (edited)

and windowblinds is outright shit

16:46

so doubt a pack for 10 will ever happen

(Window Colours Automatic and Chocolate can be turned on and off before doing the transformation)

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

there's something similar

16:47

but wsb

16:47

After a month of waiting it is here. the fully automatic setup for Win8to7 made in collaboration with @That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes. the download can be found here: https://forum.eclectic4un.me/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=107 https://www.deviantart.com/imswordking/art/Windows-8-To-7-Transformation-Pack-916171789 (edited)

Good job you two

https://web.archive.org/web/20210515075147/https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/8487cd84-a894-ff4d-33c9-acbacd9c910b

Windows 8 and 8.1 Microsoft Store app package updates available for...

Outlines the default Windows Store apps release cycle for administrators.

#RadMorning pinned a message to this channel. 12/06/2022 09:37

what are you on windows

15:21

WDYM. IT'S ALREADY UPDATED

15:22

stupid os

15:22

wtf

windows was always stupid tbh

what do you want from me shitdrive

u suck

what app is that?

onedrive for business

do you really need OneDrive or are you just playing around?

no but i want this gone

https://www.eightforums.com/threads/onedrive-remove-from-navigation-pane-in-windows-8-1.28027/

OneDrive - Remove from Navigation Pane in Windows 8.1

How to Add or Remove "OneDrive" from Navigation Pane of File Explorer in Windows 8.1 SkyDrive is now called OneDrive instead. OneDrive is Now Available Worldwide: Free Cloud Storage for Microsoft, iOS, and Android Devices | OneDrive Blog . OneDrive is a cloud-based storage service where you...

cool it's gone now

@ImSwordQueen Hello. How'd you make the Show Desktop button appear?

13:12

I wanted to quickly do this with Aero CP theme, WSB is really confusing

?

13:12

wdym

13:13

oh

I want to make the show desktop button visible in a different theme

it's in taskbar2 something

13:13

i forgor

This, right?

probably

13:13

actually no

13:14

lemme check up real quicjk

Isnt in in like, the taskbar texture

yes

13:19

@E2

Scamdisk

Isnt in in like, the taskbar texture

yeah

Finally nailed it, thanks

editionmatrix.xml

3.58 KB

17:06

yes, server x86 newer than 2008 r1 exists

neat but good luck at getting a copy

18:51

and getting updates

I do have all the files

19:26

Needed to do so

19:26

Just gotta have to hack them a shitton cuz it won't work ootb

19:27

Shitton of wow64 references and some x64 drivers

19:28

That obivously don't exist on x86

what if

20:07

you hack it up on x86 8 client?

20:07

that should be a lot easier than hack it up on server 2012 x64

ImSwordQueen

that should be a lot easier than hack it up on server 2012 x64

Well that's what imma do

Windows 8 to 7 Transformation Pack on Nobel Tech https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBcv85St570

Nobel Tech

Windows 8.1 with Windows 7 Theme!

smh not showing off the OS it was actually designed for /s

smh not showing credits

Eh it happens

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

smh not showing credits

It's not only us

14:37

no windows 8.1 4 me

You killed 8.1 upgrade offer entirely? Damn (edited)

it never appeared

14:47

lol

Then again, not like when it appears there isnt a registry tweak set to block it in well, that goddamn iso

ye

Literally took all known precautions to prevent the 8.1 upgrade from happening

rn the store is having problems for some reason

I have a feeling MS might shutdown 8.x store a while after 8.1 eos

14:51

which means no more sideloading on 8.1 doom

Only on 8.0 because wscrack (edited)

14:53

If only it was updated for 8.1

14:56

And on 10, store isnt even needed for dev mode

14:56

But that's besides the point

barisberat

Click to see attachment 🖼️

that isn't credits

19:00

THIS is the credits area

oh nobel tech

Not very nobel, that one... Erm noble

14:53

Engris Tech feelscringeman

14:53

I swear every tech channel on YouTube is the same lol

14:54

Bad English, hey bro i got this windows theming guide coming soon. it looks legit just like xp

14:54

Bronies in the comments

14:54

Poorly credited, or just outright stolen content

14:55

That's a part of YouTube I keep a distance from ;p

docR

Not very nobel, that one... Erm noble

Unless Nobel is a name

docR

Bad English, hey bro i got this windows theming guide coming soon. it looks legit just like xp

Or @win5270's no-longer-SUPPORTers

22:12

reminds me of

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

Click to see attachment 🖼️

I fixed AERO Lite. You're welcome, enjoy ig. (edited)

Does someone know of a proper tool for custom bootscreen logo on 8.1

E2

Does someone know of a proper tool for custom bootscreen logo on 8.1

https://winaero.com/how-to-change-the-boot-logo-in-windows-8-1-and-windows-8/

How to change the boot logo in Windows 8.1 and Windows 8

I have been asked how to change the boot logo in Windows 8.1 and Windows 8 thousands of times by the users of my apps and by Winaero blog visitors. This

updating a 8.1 iso with all skus

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

https://winaero.com/how-to-change-the-boot-logo-in-windows-8-1-and-windows-8/

I used this tool and thought it was broken as there was black screen with spinner

04:01

Turns out bootres has to be signed with something

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cXqu5Y-_7vCXRgoyKsPX_OByzzzLitaG/view?usp=sharing

Windows 8.1 fully updated 6-2022 + .NET 4.8.iso

ImSwordQueen pinned a message to this channel. 22/06/2022 18:55

from core to enterprise

12:24

this looks cursed

#RadMorning

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/8487cd84-a894-ff4d-33c9-acbacd9c910b

this link doesnt work anymore

i think i unpinned it a few days later

15:41

i replaces it with an Internet Wayback link

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

windlows 7

https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-to-start-nagging-windows-8-1-users-in-july-about-january-2023-end-of-support-date/

Microsoft to start nagging Windows 8.1 users in July about January ...

Microsoft is readying its campaign to notify Windows 8.1 users about the end-of-support date for the product: January 10, 2023.

22:27

updates are pointless anyway lol

Inb4 updates up to Server 2012 R2 eos will still install just fine

Linux says hi

its market share will see an increase of 0,01%

11:58

(talking about Linux)

2025 says hi too

11:59

That's for ltsc

2032 says hi too (if you really like Win10)

Windows 10 is a dumpster fire

#RadMorning

2032 says hi too (if you really like Win10)

still better than 11 trol

ImSwordQueen

https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-to-start-nagging-windows-8-1-users-in-july-about-january-2023-end-of-support-date/

oh so THEY DO CARE about 8.1 unlike Vista.

WinDVD

still better than 11 trol

Windows 10 is mainly why 11 sucks doe

21:40

true

https://archive.org/details/WIN8_STARTER_WITH_N_RTM https://archive.org/details/WINSERVER_2012_SERVERWEB_X64_RTM_EN-US

Windows 8 Starter x64 (Including N Edition) : Microsoft : Free Down...

English version of Windows 8 Starter (N)SerialsStarter :C3PVB-FNPQD-WR76V-FBYR7-PDG4W (Setup only)Starter N :744NM-C4FXY-YGM8B-7MVJC-BBFB9 (Setup only)Core...

Windows Server 2012 Web Server : Microsoft : Free Download, Borrow,...

English version of Windows Server 2012 Web ServerSerial :KN7PC-CJ492-TRM7Q-YY4R4-JHQMC

10:46

it was only a matter of time

10:46

before someone uploaded these to IA

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Does anyone have thst theme? I kinda like it

ImSwordQueen

Windows 10 is a dumpster fire

Still better than 11

Deformisani SAS

Does anyone have thst theme? I kinda like it

(insert ISO of Windows 8 8064 here)

8064's redpill theme is kinda like 8102's

14:08

that looks more like 8056 to me

(8064 has a Redpill theme?)

Yeah, that's one of the things they didn't nuke from it

03:56

This is on 8056 but still

03:57

This is 8064's aero.msstyles when redpill stuff is on

8.1 dissapeared

Scamdisk

8.1 dissapeared

8.1 store is F??

23:19

F for 8.1 store

23:19

They meant the upgrade thing

@Scamdisk is there sum way to get white titlebar text on 8.1 trol

Yes

AeroGlassGUI.exe

6.84 MB

08:01

Select caption colour and set to whatever you please (edited)

yay

skip

@Scamdisk is there sum way to get white titlebar text on 8.1 trol

Literally part of the msstyles

13:35

Until 10

13:38

https://superuser.com/questions/497761/how-can-one-make-the-title-bar-text-buttons-have-better-contrast-on-dark-colors/497768#497768 @skip

How can one make the title bar text/buttons have better contrast on...

When Windows 8 color setting are set to a very dark color, such as black or navy blue, the title bar text and the minimize/maximize buttons are nearly invisible. This makes dark colors difficult to...

13:38

Alt. way without AeroGlassGUI

ok

8to777x

ImSwordQueen

i fixed some bugs. the selected items is still the same as 8400 because i don't know how to fix that. (Works from 8400 to 9200.escrow.2110) (edited)

i don't wanna play with you anymore.

x64 works

x64 fixed MS Confidential Watermark for 9200 (edited)

9200MSConfidentialX64Fixed.7z

5.5 MB

x86 fixed MS Confidential Watermark for 9200 (edited)

9200MSConfidentialX86Fixed.7z

5.04 MB

@#RadMorning i removed your pinned message with the archived page with all the july 2014 updates for 8.x apps as it was already pinned by me before

alrighty

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aEW71YhWBGC4tdjZ1WXiwYxZLXvIkONt/view Windows 8.1 Pro and Core fully updated 5-2021 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CRGUs0L1k7KCHwKrQkWBcjzE3hgUdsyo/view Windows Embedded 8 Industry Pro and Enterprise fully updated 10-2021 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cXqu5Y-_7vCXRgoyKsPX_OByzzzLitaG/view Windows 8.1 Pro and Core fully updated 6-2022 (edited)

Windows 8.1 fully updated 5-2021 + .NET 4.8.iso

Industry8.1ProEnterprise2021-10.iso

Windows 8.1 fully updated 6-2022 + .NET 4.8.iso

Get to know windows 7

Great question there - what is Windows 7?

13:48

windows made by fabrikam?!!?!?!?!?

wtf 7955 has a better no self host version of help (edited)

15:47

perfect

hi

Salute

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Wallpaper: S T R E T C H

14:10

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

that looks pretty good

wait this isn't 8.1

make the desktop app of onedrive able to sync with a personal acc on 8.1 reg add HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\OneDrive /f /v EnableDownlevelInstallOnBluePlus /t REG_DWORD /d 1

ImSwordQueen pinned a message to this channel. 05/07/2022 12:28

nuked the 8.1 version of onedrive so it doesn't conflict

12:55

now i have options in the onedrive context menu that don't work

12:59

now they are gone

13:02

sadly i nuked search as well (edited)

13:02

oh well

fuck latest vmware lmfao

13:37

ok nvm that's what happens when no 3d accel

13:40

yeah doesn't seem to die on server oddily enough

Probably something is missing in normal 8.0

either that or the .net 4.8 method is fucked

13:42

ok so it checks for some shit in server and embedded before kb itself installs

13:44

maybe we could get it to work properly after all

13:44

just need more embedded shit

It would be cool to have proper 4.8 on 8.0

here's KB4486081 update.mum

update.mum

5.33 KB

13:46

it seems to depend on some shit from both server and embedded

13:46

therefore not applying properly on client

maybe i should test installing ServerCore-SKU-Foundation on client

Why not embedded?

actually embedded's .net stuff might be better to install

14:00

i mean IE11 works with embedded shit

14:00

so why not

so far so good

ok installing all that embedded specific shit actually fucking worked

15:05

so it's like IE after all, would only work with very specific packages installed

15:05

now lemme see if vs installer dies

4.8 on 8.0

15:09

does it get updates?

lemme see if i can apply one

15:11

vs installer doesn't die

15:11

guess this is proper after all

15:15

kbs seem to want to install now

15:15

this is a .net 4.8 update (edited)

ok so VS seems to check if .net 4.8 is installed by the installer rather than the update

will you release this method?

maybe, i have to do more testing with this method

15:44

even patching that damn installer

15:44

aka changing a check from embedded to client or something

mfw i don't even need to edit the installer

16:05

just changing both the normal and wow6432node versions of Microsoft/Windows NT/CurrentVersion/InstallationType to Embedded

16:06

and that's it

16:06

it's outright fooled to think it's embedded

16:09

if things go smoothly

16:09

then i might add this trick and .net 4.8 itself back in v3 (edited)

mfw MS made a newer version of the .net 4.8 offline installer

17:11

but it's only downloaded by VS

17:26

finally got it to work

17:27

VS itself doesn't seem to have any checks to block 8.0

17:27

only the damn installer does

17:27

and .net 4.8 been a roadblock, but i fixed it

17:29

then again, i only install C++ shit

17:29

nodejs and python might be a problem

you can install vs 2022 on windows 8 without any blocks?

17:31

i hope server 2012 is the same

well i did some workarounds tho

17:31

mostly fixing .net 4.8 by installing some embedded shit so .net 4.8 related shit actually installs

17:32

and setting InstallationType to Embedded so .net 4.8's setup thing actually installs stuff

17:32

and lastly

17:33

i did highversionlie for vs_setup_bootstrapper.exe to think it's 7 sp1 (edited)

what about updates?

VS did install an update to .net itself

17:34

and it worked

17:34

once i set InstallationType to Embedded

17:35

embeddedizemeplease.reg

502 bytes

17:35

yeah that's all it takes to trick the .net 4.8 installer

17:36

and it oddly doesn't reset

checking if updates get applied or not

17:36

why does RT 8.1 need .net 4.8

17:36

it can't run shit

ImSwordQueen

checking if updates get applied or not

oh they do

i wonder

17:39

if IE11 does the same shit now

mfw some embedded shit is all it takes to make .net 4.8 install

17:39

oh yeah and a reg tweak

imagine

17:39

wait

17:39

what was the latest version for vista

17:39

of net

4.6.1

(and what for server 2008)

17:40

for server too right?

seemnly 4.6.2 for that

17:41

well that's what MS lists at least

imagine if the same thing works on vista too

doubt i can make this work for LTSB 2015 users tho

except more boring

17:42

updates you mean?

17:42

oh net

.net 4.8 properly

yeah there... isn't going to be possible

17:42

as 1507 never gotten net 4.8 in the first place (edited)

for 8.0 it's only possible because embedded and server exist

sadge

17:43

when embedded is useful for more trol

win32

i hope server 2012 is the same

As for server 2012, all you need is the application verifier trick (edited)

17:49

As .net 4.8 installs on that by default

finished installing 4.8

17:52

still finds 4.6.2 as the final version installed (edited)

17:52

hmmm

Yeah you defo didn't install the packages

17:53

from embedded

17:53

needed for this

but it did install from the installer

17:53

soooo what

Is the kb there?

i restarted so can't tell rn

17:54

which kb should it be

The one in the offline installer that isnt the d3d thing

18:00

@Scamdisk

18:01

it is installed. hm

Does it still say 4.6.2?

18:02

As the actual installed version

18:02

If that's the case, yeah it didnt install properly

it says 4.6.2 there

18:02

but it says the update has been installed

18:02

soooo what

18:03

i'm going to check if the installer says something else

You need those Embedded packages installed

18:03

For it to actually install properly

can you send them here? trol

Download the entirety of WE8S

18:05

lies

extract the mums and cats from Windows\Servicing\Packages Extract the manifests from Windows\winsxs\manifests Extract everything else from windows\winsxs All in the same folder

so i don't have to install actual embedded 8 standard

Then extract the Embedded lp in another folder

ImSwordQueen

so i don't have to install actual embedded 8 standard

Yeah you don't have to

thank god

Then install all the Embedded packages listed in .net 4.8's update.mum

18:07

update.mum

5.33 KB

18:08

Then restart, then install .net 4.8 again after obivously uninstalling it before all of this

i guess i'll wait for the updated iso

18:09

with 4.8 installed

Will have to check all updates after 2021-03 for the wallpaper bug as well

2021-03 confirmed to have the wallpaper bug

18:10

2021-04 confirmed to not have it

If the only buggy update is 2021-03 then there would be no more 2021-02

18:13

Unless someone clearly wants the option

Win 8.0 Security updates that has or has not the wallpaper bug (2021-2022) 2021-01 Nothing 2021-02 Nothing 2021-03 Has the bug 2021-04 Nothing 2021-05 ??? 2021-06 ??? 2021-07 ??? 2021-08 ??? 2021-09 Nothing 2021-10 Nothing 2021-11 Nothing 2021-12 Nothing 2022-01 No wallpaper bug but bad shell32 2022-02 Nothing 2022-03 No wallpaper bug but bad shell32 (iirc) 2022-04 No wallpaper bug but bad shell32 (iirc) 2022-05 Nothing 2022-06 Nothing (edited)

Would still be a better compromise than a 2 isos one with IE11 and one without

in the 2022 security only updates i forgor

Also 2022-02 doesnt have the bad Shell32

the bad shell32 was updated near march/april

Welp at least solved the .net 4.8 dillema i think

18:16

and got latest VS to actually work

amd gpu drivers when trol

Would have to leave it to someone more experienced in IDA and shit to do that one

nah just lots of tape should work

I wrote documentation on the watchdog driver today. https://github.com/win32ss/watchdog_basic_documentation

GitHub - win32ss/watchdog_basic_documentation: Basic documentation ...

Basic documentation and header for the Windows NT 5.1+ watchdog.sys system driver - GitHub - win32ss/watchdog_basic_documentation: Basic documentation and header for the Windows NT 5.1+ watchdog.sy...

18:57

Maybe I should write some sort of kernel debugging thingy next.

damn nice

latest .net 4.8 rollup installed

ok installed every post 2021-02 update that ain't 2021-03 and there's only 2 other updates that seemnly bring the bug

07:25

2021-04 and 2022-05

everything else didn't give me the bug

11:11

only 2 2021 updates and one 2022 one

huh weird

11:15

for me 2022-05 didn't give me the bug

11:15

can you give me the kb number of 2022-05?

11:16

just to check up if i really have it or not

5014018

11:19

hell i guess

huh i guess i didn't install it then

11:23

i don't have it

11:23

good to know

2021-04 is 5001383

11:24

also brings in wallpaper bug

are you doing security only?

yes

tf how did i miss 2022-04

11:25

i swear i installed it

so 2021-04 and 2022-05 are the only other updates with the bug

odd i swore 2021-04 was bug free

11:29

strange

11:29

welp good to know

guessing you installed another thing and thought it was 2021-04

maybe

there's a bug with .net 4.8's installer where if the newer VS one is installed, then it stops thinking it's installed

12:08

this happens on Server too so not really a Client problem

12:08

but rather a problem with the installer

I've got a question about .NET 4.8 on Win8

13:03

Even if you've got .NET 4.8 installed, can you run apps that require it on Win8?

13:04

Is it completely functional?

i mean i got fucking VS 2022 running on Win8 and that does seemnly require .net 4.8

13:05

so yes it does work

13:05

just not in that older method

13:05

vs installer dies with that one

all .net 4.x programs die with that method actually

guess discord's .net 4.x requirement is arbritary then if it doesn't die

requiring .net to install a chrome frontend feelscringeman

i wouldnt had gotten this far with the shitty trick

13:34

ofc it would work better when you shove in more embedded shit and then edit the registry to make the installer think it's embedded

13:34

oh yeah and spoofing VS' installer into thinking it's running on 7 SP1

anyway, now gonna give 2021-12 option instead of 2021-02

13:50

2021-12 been right before bad shell32

13:51

how does that sound?

sounds good

13:58

probably keep 2021-02 v2

13:58

while nuke 2021-03

13:59

as you are going to include net 4.8 in 2021-12 from what i seen right? @Scamdisk

yeah, proper .net 4.8

13:59

with some Rollups

13:59

well all rollups i could find that specify ndp48

yeah then nuke only 2021-03 while keeping 2021-02 v2

i don't think i've updated the forum thread

yeah you didn't

maybe i should include the embeddedizemeplease.reg as an extra

14:06

also since i skipped 2021-03 and 2021-04, there's no wallpaper bug

14:06

aged horribly

things that didn't age well

14:07

might have to put a "for real this time i swear"

I'm gonna try it in a VM

20:53

I'm most interested in the installer

don't use that iso

21:11

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qA9McpmMa2A2g8LEQ5MwLOXDhFYd7RjY/view?usp=sharing use this instead

Windows 8 with updates (202102 v2).iso

okay

8.0 with no updates is the worst OS to test 8to7 on

21:17

versions of windows 8 to NOT use 8to7 on: Windows 8 RTM no updates Windows 8.1 RTM no updates Windows 8.1 Update 1 no updates

#RadMorning pinned a message to this channel. 06/07/2022 21:19

i removed the first message as it's a duplicate of the second

alright

portable/embeddable python still runs on "unsupported" windows versions

07:07

it's only that goddamn installer that blocks 7 and 8.0

07:12

yes python, 8.1 is defo a requirement

07:19

was thinking it was gonna require R2

Scamdisk

it's only that goddamn installer that blocks 7 and 8.0

Of course it is

07:40

We've seen that song whistled before

this ain't gonna be as easy as working around .net 4.8

07:41

that's for sure

07:43

node.js just uses a MSI

07:43

so it's a simple orca edit away

07:44

tho that seems to require a flag in the env variable to actually run

working on something

OH HELL NAH!!!!

it's windows 7 to 8 trol

win8tox

21:37

just a normal windows 8to7 setup

https://glass8.eu

23:08

23:14

whats glass8

@That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes wanna buy glass8? trol

skip

whats glass8

Aero Glass for Windows 8.X/10

we should buy it

23:16

and redirect it to win8to7

23:16

lmao

lol.

23:29

There's still time to archive Glass8's files btw. add this to your HOSTS: 62.109.140.34 glass8.eu that'll make the website work again enough to allow downloading everything from it

https://archive.org/details/full-glass8-archive

Aero Glass for Windows 8, 8.1, and 10 (and full glass8.eu crawl) : ...

Everything from Aero Glass for Windows 8.1's website, https://glass8.eu/, crawled from its IP shortly after the domain entered 'Quarantine'.This archive...

docR pinned a message to this channel. 09/07/2022 00:07

fully dead ig

00:33

but expected

Project8400 dead post 8to8RP

make it uninstall the default 9200 apps, install wscrack, then install 8400 apps if on well, 9200

13:04

/s

it's possible trol

fuck yeah

13:56

fuck glass8

should i prebundle this tweak?

it's a good tweak imo

15:40

so yes

meh. it isn't vanilla

15:40

so for me no

well i did tweak a lot just to block 8.1 so

i mean

15:40

force upgrading to 8.1 is needed

15:40

because you want 8.0 and not 8.1 (edited)

ofc

meanwhile the rest should be vanilla imo (edited)

except for the embedded stuff clugging up because IE and .NET

it isn't a tweak that drastically changes something, it just speeds up the startup routine

sword seems to be right about this

could've guessed

15:46

better listen to an expert

~~ngl when I read 'sword' in here I thought of the Mario Kart Player~~

Scamdisk

should i prebundle this tweak?

whats it do

decreases Win32 app startup delay

based

07:52

include it

Scamdisk

decreases Win32 app startup delay

who wouldnt want that

i dunno tbf

08:14

the 8.1 blocking tweaks were a requirement

time to clean all this shit up

thing that happens when you uninstall the 8to7 transformation pack

https://tenor.com/bwCZp.gif

#RadMorning

thing that happens when you uninstall the 8to7 transformation pack

thats because the mui gets cached

23:47

it will clear itself back... eventually feelscringeman

average family PC setup in the Balkans be like

#RadMorning

average family PC setup in the Balkans be like

the pc is actually a laptop behind a bed

19:44

for this setup

19:45

my main is on the other side

19:45

but yes lol genius keyboard

20:17

only one they had in the store to fit to the setup

Deleted User

Click to see attachment 🖼️

is that enough room for the laptop for reliable ventilation?

#RadMorning

is that enough room for the laptop for reliable ventilation?

yes

20:23

just enough

Deleted User

but yes lol genius keyboard

and hp oem mouse

why not using the laptop as the keyboard doe

ImSwordQueen

why not using the laptop as the keyboard doe

not enough space

20:25

unless i want to use the trackpad

20:26

and cables would look ugly

20:26

this looks clean

but you have to reach the laptop to turn it on (edited)

eh big deal

20:26

i just have to lay on the bed, move the laptop a little but and press the button (edited)

I thought you turned on 'wake on AC'

20:29

if you have that enabled, you can just replug the power to the laptop

20:29

and it will just turn on

#RadMorning

I thought you turned on 'wake on AC'

cant access bios

locked down firmware?

because bios does not show up on external display

ouch

nothing shows up on external display until windows lock screen shows up

when I have my laptop closed, it just shows everything on the external monitor instead

hmmmm i dont have the lid rn

20:31

i do but ehhhh

20:32

its not attached

#RadMorning

average family PC setup in the Balkans be like

true lol

after 1 "successful" transformation later

22:49

it's alive! (edited)

what?

22:50

your windows 8 build that looks like 7?

no

22:50

the 7 shit are leftovers

22:50

from the previous transformation

ok

the release preview stuff is the stuff i'm caring for

22:50

as they work

22:50

with difficulties

fun fact: windows 7s theme works on 10

but they work

although since windows 10 uses acrylic the transparency is fucked up.

Deformisani SAS

fun fact: windows 7s theme works on 10

ok

03:38

windowblinds

nope

no like

03:56

that is windowblinds bro (edited)

Deformisani SAS

fun fact: windows 7s theme works on 10

this is possibly the worst recreation of windows 7's theme on 10 i've seen to date

Vruh 2

that is windowblinds bro (edited)

no

It's not bad for what it is

12:45

Apply a taskbar texture to open/classic shell though

Deformisani SAS

fun fact: windows 7s theme works on 10

nice WindowBlinds I guess

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

awesome

19:08

release preview makes me nostalgic

19:08

i installed it on my netbook

19:08

when it came out

19:08

and i had it in a vm on my pc too

It only looks alright in that color

19:42

They didn't bother making the Bell transparent

that bell icon is very out of place imo

19:43

doesn't really fit

19:43

too rounded for Metro

susi baka

Scamdisk

Click to see attachment 🖼️

you who installed updates trol

imagine installing updates

imo updates are only good on vista and pre vista

21:00

to adding to the fucked 8.1 install

21:00

that i have to reinstall

oofer_dww

imo updates are only good on vista and pre vista

for 7 if you know which ones are a threat

they usually slow down on 7

21:00

bloat the shit out of it

clearly renaming/copying folders are overrated

i never had issues with the 2018 iso

or even restoring folders

i just used vanilla sp1 and updated it

ImSwordQueen

clearly renaming/copying folders are overrated

that is my fucking nightmare right there

i fucked up with onedrive

21:01

i see why onedrive of 8.1 doesn't want you to log in with the other onedrive

21:02

well when 8to8RP is finished i will move temporally to a 8.0 install

21:02

which i will setup the only necessary to reinstall the whole thing

remember skydrive?

yes

Scamdisk

Click to see attachment 🖼️

I mean there would still be programs that will support 8.1 (edited)

Don't you wish 8 looked like this?

Why wishing when you can get it today

22:50

With project 8400

1

22:50

Advertising a dead product that will be replaced soon

2

you dont say?

blursed

DeRosenberg

I mean there would still be programs that will support 8.1 (edited)

Most of them will drop 8.x when they drop 7

when it comes to support 8.x is to 7 like vista was to xp

07:25

it may be a newer os but low markrt share relative to the other os gets it lumped in w it

ok 2022-07 doesn't seem to exibit the wallpaper bug, good

for now apps that stopped support 8.x are the ones that use qt6

09:30

or microsoft made ones

Scamdisk

Most of them will drop 8.x when they drop 7

blender didnt

also i'm pretty sure that most apps dropping 8.x is not because they don't have apis that don't allow them to work

09:34

but because they wanted to drop support

hell will freeze over at usual once google pulls the plug

ImSwordQueen

but because they wanted to drop support

well i mean adobe dropped 8.x and early 10 (10240 and 10586) before 7 so uhh (edited)

it's morally correct to pirate adobe products

yes

09:51

good i only had to skip 3 updates so far

09:51

it's a given that there may be more updates with wallpaper bug

09:53

and firefox may support it for a year after chrome drops

ImSwordQueen

but because they wanted to drop support

developers don't see a point in developing apps for an OS that is going to die within 6 months so

09:56

they may as well drop support for both 7 and 8.x

and steam might drop late as usual

09:57

considering xp and vista were supported till 2019, like 3 years after chrome dropped support

ImSwordQueen

it's morally correct to pirate adobe products

10:57

paying monthly is the worst invention ever

10:58

remember old iChoons? you can keep the music forever

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Lq78qlS0eJ11OunepEmSj0tngtrD0ml2/view?usp=sharing (edited)

en_windows_embedded_8.1_industry_pro_x64_updated-july-2022.iso

#RadMorning pinned a message to this channel. 13/07/2022 13:23

pin me

13:23

oh

13:23

done already

lmao

13:23

done

updated my iso with dotnet 3.5 preinstalled

skip

updated my iso with dotnet 3.5 preinstalled

nice

18:13

you uploading?

i simply replaced the file with the same link

18:14

its in pinned

ahhhhh

18:14

not gonna use it but good anyway

18:14

i dont need updated windows 8.1

i made it mostly for my own use and thought yall would appreciate it

only update 1

i always fully update my installs

18:14

whatever os it is

only time i did it was last time on 7 on my main

18:15

uninstalled the bad updates

and it got so slow you never did it again

18:15

well yeah win7 is extremely slow with updates

i have an ssd now

18:15

its still there

oh

its main os

18:16

it was actually a bad hdd i had that was slow

18:16

its 16 years old

jeez

it needs a break

wouldnt trust my data with that

i had some shit on it but nothing that cant be found on the internet

18:17

now its not in the pc since i got a 1tb toshiba pc p300

skip

pin me

you're supposed to be straight

What is the best way to activate Windows 8.x?

buy product key

Correction: What is the best way to activate Windows 8.x without buying a product key?

buy motherboard that is pre-activated with 8.x

lazy to correct

if you hate the law and microsoft etc etc etc shady download etc etc i usually use the first to third copy of kmspico i find from a google search then run a virus scan afterwards

see, that's what I would do... I was wondering if there was something like https://github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts but for Windows 8.x

GitHub - massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts: A collection of s...

A collection of scripts for activating Microsoft products using HWID / KMS38 / Online KMS activation methods with a focus on open-source code, less antivirus detection and user-friendliness. - GitH...

beyond searching kmspico and the other kms thing i haven't cracked 8.1 in any other way

actually, online KMS can activate Windows 8 and 8.1 (edited)

06:59

gonna try this in a VM

07:00

it's probably the same thing as KMSpico

07:00

but without the virus risk

virus risk makes it exciting

07:02

set kms server

08:15

enter random key that works

08:15

slmgr -ato

08:15

done

08:16

http://wind4.github.io/vlmcsd/

Microsoft KMS Activation

KMS Emulator in C (currently runs on Linux including Android, FreeBSD, Solaris, Minix, Mac OS, iOS, Windows with or without Cygwin)

08:16

here

Its finally here! https://www.deviantart.com/imswordking/art/Win8-To-8RP-Transformation-Pack-922571779

Win8 To 8RP Transformation Pack by ImSwordKing on DeviantArt

0/10 no app- oh wait yeah, wscrack is flagged by most antiviruses

and piracy

Scamdisk

0/10 no app- oh wait yeah, wscrack is flagged by most antiviruses

was checking wscrack on google and got this picture lmao

RayZen

was checking wscrack on google and got this picture lmao

hidemyass is a vpn

and a shit one from what i heard

ImSwordQueen

Its finally here! https://www.deviantart.com/imswordking/art/Win8-To-8RP-Transformation-Pack-922571779

can this be used on Server 2012 (R1)?

once again, fuck winsxs

winsxs sucks yes

09:07

what compression did you use on the wim tho

Converting this to esd rn

09:22

Which is taking a painfully long time due to: 1. 3 indexes 2. My shit HW

Even then, this might still end up in a 5gb esd

10:11

yup

10:12

the esd compression resulted in 2.08 gb shaved off

cant you load the wim and do the funny winsxs component cleanup using dism++

i did

10:13

still failed with "some where cleaned up but you need 8.1 for full clean" meme

lol

win5270

can this be used on Server 2012 (R1)?

Ye

Scamdisk

yup

fuck up sxs

nah don't wanna break shit further than i already have

10:39

i shoved in embedded shit just for IE11 and .NET 4.8

10:39

even tho only the latter is included

well are you using compression

10:42

at all

yes

10:49

without any compression it would had been fucking 17gb or larger

there's nothing i can do that doesn't involve separating all skus into their own isos

10:57

which feels rather stupid

11:01

it's the same 3 skus as that 2021-02 one

well uh

11:01

no other skus? trol

no, there's no starter, enterprise or rt

no i mean

11:02

have only 1 sku trol

it's either between pro and prowmc i guess

prowmc why not

or just core, but well, edition upgrades 1. take a shitton of time because of the updates 2. temp fills up rather quickly meaning it can't be done in a PE

11:04

so it's easier to have all 3 in a single ESD instead

11:04

so a inplace upgrade can done instead

upgrading from what

core > prowmc for example

why would you install core first to begin with

if it was just core then that would had been the only choice

it would make sense for win7 > win8

11:06

but win8>win8prowmc with updates

11:06

ehj

11:06

dunno

still takes less time than anytime upgrade or dism would

well

11:07

your choice

guess 2022-07 iso no more then

11:08

because it would become literally 6gb esd

11:09

if installing 2022 updates, just skip 2022-05

Scamdisk

once again, fuck winsxs

winsex

win5270

can this be used on Server 2012 (R1)?

pretty sure it'd work fine in Server

12:13

Win8To7 does in Server as well (once it's fully updated) (edited)

or rather, updated enough for no funny shit to happen

12:15

aka wallpaper bug or shit shell32/themecpl

2021-02 is the sweet spot

12:15

for both 8.x

2021-12 if you skip 2 bad updates

12:16

for 8.0

12:16

the 2 bad updates are 2021-03 and 2021-04

12:17

and if doing 2022 updates, skip 2022-05

and replace shell32 and themecpl asap

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

looks cursed

Scamdisk

and if doing 2022 updates, skip 2022-05

why

12:17

whats with these bad updates

wallpaper bug

what wp bug

do you like having black as your wallpaper

12:17

and only black

12:17

solid black

i dont have wp bug on 8.1

8.1 doesn't have it

yeah that's a 8.0 only issue

then

12:18

use 8.1

12:18

no

!brazil @skip no

its just 8.0 with a start button

not really

i can't use the real -brazil whyyy

incoming

12:19

with .net 4.8 that works for real this time i swear

Scamdisk

aka wallpaper bug or shit shell32/themecpl

or Segone UI fonts (edited)

no that's without updates

with updates it's either gonna be wallpaper bug or shit shell32/themecpl

wait

12:22

what happen to themecpl

i've had a themecpl not supported error from aero glass with 2022 updates applied, well the version your w8tow7tp has

huh interesting

that may be due to your themecpl mods as well

i mean

12:24

it works below 2022-xx

12:24

so i don't think so

well guess only the 2021-12 iso is going out after all

12:24

no 2022-07 iso

12:25

doubt that's gonna be a bad thing

12:25

considering 2021-12 is the last without bad dlls

12:26

that fuck up third party shit

12:26

and well doesn't contain 2021-03 and 2021-04 so wallpaper bug free

skip

what wp bug

sorry for ping but here's what i mean by wallpaper bug

funny

Scamdisk

sorry for ping but here's what i mean by wallpaper bug

wtf is that flickering

Scamdisk

sorry for ping but here's what i mean by wallpaper bug

thats stupid

12:51

why doesnt microsoft fix it

a. they clearly don't care about 8.0

12:51

b. most businesses don't care

12:51

businesses that run embedded 8 standard or server 2012R1

Deformisani SAS

wtf is that flickering

Low quality to be able to upload on discord

ok

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Fl9N3Vla56lvLoWyaoYKY8J-NXsiv9T4/view?usp=sharing

Windows 8 with updates (2021-12).iso

https://youtu.be/rZHvYt-EuCs

Michael MJD

Transforming Windows 8 into Windows 7! - Win8to7 Demo

16:05

HOLY SHIT

wait is that his new video?

16:14

can't wait to watch it (i'm playing csgo rn)

0/10 no 8.0 /s /j

Deformisani SAS

wait is that his new video?

yeah

hold up

16:20

what did you use for that start menu

windows7like

it looks off

16:46

lol

i think it was meant to be as accurate as possible within CS limits

oofer_dww

it looks off

ehhh

16:56

open shell is probably the worst version to run anyway

16:56

as it doesn't have the jumplist fix that sab does

meanwhile me with 7's actual explorer

17:54

yeah ex7forw8

nice

Meanwhile me with actual 7 trol

fun fact: 8.0 is the last os where these damn bootcamp drivers for my shitass old macbook work properly

tall boi

WSB moment

jumplists are no longer fucked without sib

22:26

they will be fucked on 8.0 though

22:28

also it works with sib

22:28

so after a lot of swearing

22:28

this works

Awesome!

i spoke too soon

22:53

it broke on me already

22:53

:(

spoke too soon

23:23

sib is broken

23:23

:(

next stop: taskbar is broken

ImSwordQueen

sib is broken

well yeah ofc. it would be

15:02

to fix a Jump List in 8.1, you have to kill Start Menu support in your msstyles for normal Start Menu (not the SIB-exclusive stuff).

15:02

(since 8.1 Jump Lists use pieces of the former Start Menu contents) (edited)

15:03

Honestly, strat'd seriously just be making the Jump Lists fix exclusive to SMOpenShell in 9600, and leaving the unfixed theme in place for every other possible condition.

Someone l33k Glass8 symbols /s

can anyone like show me how glass8 works and stuff

09:39

how to get the funny win8 developer preview title bars

09:40

and stuff like that

09:40

im a complete and utter noob at this

oh ok some dude on rutracker has cracked version of like every glass8 release ever made

you can use AeroGlassGUI to change options

10:00

you change the title bar and window borders by changing the 'theme atlas' (edited)

10:02

https://archive.org/details/full-glass8-archive

Aero Glass for Windows 8, 8.1, and 10 (and full glass8.eu crawl) : ...

Everything from Aero Glass for Windows 8.1's website, https://glass8.eu/, crawled from its IP shortly after the domain entered 'Quarantine'.This archive...

THIS IS BEAUTIFUL

10:08

also i think i can install classic shell to get blurred taskbar

nope

10:08

you can change the transparency with it, but not have it blurred

oh

the rutracker page said that (as of 2019) open-shell had the option to use aero glass to blur the taskbar

10:09

well, that option does exist

Actually settings CS' taskbar option to opaque enables blur

10:12

because it's trying to make the taskbar opaque yet aero glass is forcing it into been transparent and such

10:12

resulting in the blur

ah

10:13

I know that the Start menu gets blurred

10:13

but I didn't know about the taskbar

10:14

tho it's more or so the result of an unintended circumstance

10:14

because of aero glass overriding it (edited)

oh

So think of it more as a trick than anything, idk

it works

10:15

and that's all that matters

10:16

the glass8 archive doesn't have AeroGlassGUI (edited)

10:16

grrrrr

so aero glass would also draw its skin over it right?

10:16

didn't get your question

like for example

10:17

the "glass reflection" effect

10:17

texture

Yeah it does draw that

10:17

ok

10:18

i got this repack off rutracker which has many patched versions of aeroglass and a handy script which automatically chooses the right version for your windows build (edited)

For 8.x, would rather use the painteR ones

whats the difference

10:19

it works

it uses the original setup

10:19

while still been cracced

oh well

10:21

that ain't so good

10:21

that's better

where do you get these atlases?

https://msfn.org/board/topic/170233-aero-glass-themeatlas/#comments

Aero Glass ThemeAtlas

please post your themeatlas files here

pog

11:07

ultimate pogggg thank you imsword

Proton doe

11:11

Actually it ain't bad

11:12

Looks a lot better with aero

11:31

I switched back to 78.15.0esr because of the look

11:31

it's still very useable

11:31

and useful

78 is also faster on old hardware

11:32

i just keep waterfox g3 around for it

11:32

g4 doesnt even run cause stupid sse requirement

skip

oh ok some dude on rutracker has cracked version of like every glass8 release ever made

1.3.1 isn't there sadly

E2

1.3.1 isn't there sadly

is that version important in any way

11:35

ive been using 1.4 so far and its ok

It has experimental support for windows 10 technical preview

oh

Ideally I'd patch it myself, but BigMuscle has integrity checks in place

i mean no one's gonna main win10 tp

Gosh his wording for donation features is just confusing :')

skip

i mean no one's gonna main win10 tp

yeah i will let it slide, but doubt anyone else on bw would

But honestly, I'm not using it for daily driver. I installed it on a .vhdx to investigate the VM shutdown bug

11:43

It's pretty stable for what it's worth, but still a very, very bad idea

Meanwhile 9834 is very stable outside of the nvidia bug and the chromium bug

9888 most stable 10 release trol

Ah yes, carrying over all of 9879's bugs stable

Scamdisk

Meanwhile 9834 is very stable outside of the nvidia bug and the chromium bug

I recently tried transplanting over DWM from 9833, and even making a wrapper with the functions that are apparently missing in 9834, but to no avail, no idea why

Yet 9879 doesnt have the chromium bug

11:46

More or so a problem with builds before it because even 9860 has that bug

Always gotta sacrifice one thing for another Or just use a stable release :D

Yeah, If You really want that start menu, just buy a RT device troll

Huh?

8.1 on arm got that start menu as an update

Oooh I forgot lol, they did port that

11:49

Flexing on 8.1 people

ImSwordQueen

9888 most stable 10 release trol

It dies if you install Nvidia newer than 33x, I tried

rip

I guess 9884 dies too, because of 10.0

Except we only have files from 9884

11:52

not the build itself

11:52

i like this

11:52

also it thinks it's night for some reason

Scamdisk

not the build itself

Whoever has it, probably doesn't enjoy having 33x driver

If only MS allowed disabling that U1 titlebar thing on desktop

11:53

Shit really fucks up with modernmix (edited)

thing is

11:54

a modern version of modernmix has that

Yeah guess not the common cracked one

E2

troled watermark

yeah....

I bear the advantage of native implementation

based no watermark

How did PainteR crack glass8?

dunno

PainteR is a fucking wizard

11:55

fucker even removed the fucking hash in 7989's shell32

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

i dont have the calendar and weather apps whyyy

Scamdisk

PainteR is a fucking wizard

isnt he russian

Scamdisk

fucker even removed the fucking hash in 7989's shell32

He very well is.

painter be like:

11:57

chad painter enjoyer vs virgin simplex fan

my man ported almost all the 8 beta themes to 7

The common cracked version of modernmix is also made by PainteR

wtf i froze explorer

11:59

amazing

painteR also made uwd

11:59

absolute chad

yoo i used uwd

12:00

doesnt seem to work on win11 tho

it works

12:00

but not with sab

It doesnt work with SAB

oh

also painteR cracked start8

12:01

my man went

12:01

fuck y'all

12:01

and cracked all the 8's customization software that was public back then

E2

Flexing on 8.1 people

beta start menu?

he is literally using win10 tp

tp?

technical preview

why

because yes

Funny start menu + haha funny flight signing nuked iso

E2

But honestly, I'm not using it for daily driver. I installed it on a .vhdx to investigate the VM shutdown bug

^

honestly the windows vista / 7 start menu is easily inferior to the metro start screen

12:05

look how cluttered it is if i add my apps

12:05

meanwhile the start screen fits more and still has plenty of room

12:06

from a functionality standpoint the start screen is just better

skip

honestly the windows vista / 7 start menu is easily inferior to the metro start screen

also no categorization

12:09

no grouping

exactly

i only use the 7 one because of the faster shutdown option

and especially the windows 10 start menu is superior over both since it has folders and can still fit as many apps as you want in a smaller space

12:10

you can also make it full screen

I really like the TP one. But of course it's RT that needs it more than desktop...

1

skip

and especially the windows 10 start menu is superior over both since it has folders and can still fit as many apps as you want in a smaller space

and you can just have the installed apps list show up next to your pinned apps without having to do extra clicks

12:11

its just convenient

12:11

also the windows 11 start menu is garbage

12:11

its just worse than every single start menu

12:12

it fits less apps than 7, looks ugly, cant turn off the recent section

12:12

its barely configurable at all

skip

it fits less apps than 7, looks ugly, cant turn off the recent section

You can, with a group policy in 22H2 but that barely counts

or using ExplorerPatcher

windows 11 doesn't make sense

12:14

the taskbar sucks

12:14

start menu sucks

#RadMorning

or using ExplorerPatcher

then you wouldnt be able to use sab

the kernel is just the 10 one

12:14

so it sucks

skip

then you wouldnt be able to use sab

you can

12:14

if you remove dxgi.dll from the main windows folder

ImSwordQueen

if you remove dxgi.dll from the main windows folder

it will still break the taskbar

E2

How did PainteR crack glass8?

i noticed that it calls several win32 crypto apis to verify the licence key

13:10

maybe he faked the right result? but there are also seemingly integrity checks

Deformisani SAS

it will still break the taskbar

thank you captain obvious

13:44

you have to take compromises

13:44

if you want to use sab

skip

from a functionality standpoint the start screen is just better

yeah

13:46

and people tell me that it sucks and i'm stupid for using it

win32

maybe he faked the right result? but there are also seemingly integrity checks

Since I wield the Russian language, I'd probably try contact him on the matter. I don't know where, though

#RadMorning

the glass8 archive doesn't have AeroGlassGUI (edited)

???

...whoops

14:32

I thought it would be part of the exe files

14:32

I download the exes, but it wasn't there

the windows 7 menu has been what i used for so long

18:51

i'm used to that small menu in the corner of the screen

18:51

instead of a giant ass screen with massive tiles

18:51

the massive keywords are i'm used

18:51

and honestly i wouldn't feel as productive with the start screen

18:51

i can live with the pinned/recent apps list on the 7 start menu

18:53

i really don't care about categorization either

18:54

i just want to find the app icon and that's it

18:54

i scroll down and find the folder for it or the icon up top

skip

look how cluttered it is if i add my apps

and if you need that many pinned apps on the start menu

18:55

uhh

18:55

i guess that's the bottleneck

18:56

in my use case i have never ever had that many icons in the start menu recent/pinned list

Vruh 2

and honestly i wouldn't feel as productive with the start screen

ive found the start screen works well for me when ive used it

19:26

start menu usually only comes up when im typing an applocation name into it and pressing enter

19:26

if i just put stuff like my computer in the tiles then it's just as fast as the start menu for me

actually imma be honest i fucking hate the start screen and i'm biased towards windows 7

19:38

simple and ez

start screen is alright

20:30

but it was annoying in 8.0 when there was no start button and it booted to the start screen on startup

start screen is okay...

21:04

WHEN IT DOESN'T DECIDE TO FREEZE WHILE FREAKING LOADING

21:04

FRIG THAT SOFTLOCK, SERIOUSLY

21:04

IT LASTS SO LONG AND ALL

21:04

and you literally can't. do. crud. about it when it happens, either.

21:04

so you need'a wait for it to unsoftlock.

21:05

something every non-Start-Screen hasn't ever done in Windows.

huh

21:11

it never softlocked for me

21:11

even on my craptop

for me neither

tf

21:16

it did consistently here

21:16

back on 8.0 hardware

21:16

somewhat rarely

never softlocked for me either

it softlocked for me once

21:22

and only once

So I have a problem with the 2021-12 version

21:44

21:48

I'm downloading the 02 version

I did it and installed it but it doesn't show up when I boot it

22:27

Help

22:28

It goes into Windows 7 immediately

22:30

22:31

FFs

22:46

Fine I'll delete the files

#RadMorning

Click to see attachment 🖼️

windows 10?

22:52

or

Didn't work again

23:15

What should I do

Ok did it

23:27

I used the exe

Done

00:01

How do I make my Windows 8 the system one?

00:01

So I don't screw up

00:01

Also I have a win7 pe on my USB btw

tf is wrong with ur monitor

00:04

are yalls pcs like built from scraps left behind by the horrors of the civil war

00:05

just like mine

Idfk

DeRosenberg

How do I make my Windows 8 the system one?

what

00:16

what are you trying to do

00:16

you mean make it into a primary partition?

yeah

i know how just dont remember one sec

00:17

go into disk part

00:17

select your disk

00:18

and do cre par pri

00:18

that'll create a new primary partition

sel disk 0 first

you need to select your disk which should be disk 0 but make sure that's your disk

it is

00:19

00:20

oof

00:21

fuck

i think you need to create some unallocated space

00:22

id do that and then try the command again

00:23

Should I do it off 7?

00:23

or 8

doesn't matter

00:24

id do it on the one ur gonna use less tho

I want to make 8 the only one

00:24

I removed 7 off the system config

so u want to delete the 7 partition?

no

u want 8 to be the only primary?

yes

hm

00:27

let me check something

00:30

alr from the looks of it, it looks like it's impossible to convert an already existing partition to primary without data loss using disk management

00:30

apparently you can find some tools on the internet which might work but I can't verify

I moved my data to the D disk lol

alr in that case u can delete the one without the data and do the diskpart thing

I can't since it won't let me do that

thats weird

00:37

maybe it could be raid?

idk

00:37

i'm getting nervous

00:38

https://www.diskpart.com/articles/set-partition-as-primary.html

How Do I Set Partition as Primary in Windows 11, 10, 8, 7 Step-by-S...

The post teaches you how to set partition as primary using Diskpart, Disk Management or an overall partition manager in Windows 11, 10, 8, 7.

i needa go to bed ill help you when I wake up if nobody else has

ok

No one has helped me lol

DeRosenberg

No one has helped me lol

well in the first place why is that partition logical

08:46

that may be a problem

08:47

and anyways why would you need to set it as primary, i can see that the win7 one is primary

08:47

like whats gonna change if you set it as primary

08:47

what are you trying to achieve

I changed from 7 to 8

09:07

And I want to delete the disk and redo it again to erase the win7 data

09:07

format it idfk

DeRosenberg

And I want to delete the disk and redo it again to erase the win7 data

so delete the entire drive and start over?

delete it and remake the partition into my files

09:22

yes

09:23

so you wanna delete the win7 partition and keep the 8 one, but cant delete cuz its primary

yeah

sounds like u just gotta reinstall

09:25

ur win8 is on a logical volume which is extremely cringe anyway

09:25

its gonna make future problems with partitioning

rip

09:27

I don't have a USB, I have a 2GB sd carder that has Windows 7 PE and the 8 ISO of course

but theres a way to do it non destructively

09:27

boot into that 8 iso

09:27

run diskpart

09:27

delete the win7 partition from there

09:27

mark the win8 partition as active

09:27

reapply the bootloader

09:27

???

09:27

profit

hmmm

09:30

I mean like I said I don't have a USB that's size is not enough to do it

cant u boot off the sd card?

09:31

my laptop supports booting from sd cards

09:31

it just shows it as a usb hdd

09:32

which sd cards are essentially just quirky flash drives

I only have a 2GB one

ohh wait

09:33

the win7 pe is on that sd card

09:33

i thought you had both the pe and win8 on it

09:33

ok

09:33

pe should be enough anyway

09:33

win8 is basically win7 in the way it boots

09:34

actually the bootloader thing might not be there already so you may want to steal it from the win8 iso

How do I do that

open up the iso, go to sources folder and copy bootrec i think

09:34

or bootsect?

09:35

i dont remember

09:35

1 sec

09:35

alright no

09:35

you gotta copy bcdboot

09:35

thats the thing that applies the bootloader

09:37

and then put it on that pe sd card

rip where do I find it

09:42

?

DeRosenberg

rip where do I find it

it should just be in sources/bcdboot.exe (edited)

wdf

09:44

k one sec

09:44

as you can probably tell i am not 100% sure about what im doing

Fuck

you know what im highly retarded and you can actually find that file in your system32 folder on the installed system

09:47

so just copy it from your win8 install

09:47

and put it somewhere on the win7 pe

lol

you might not want to use the win7 bcdboot since it could be outdated for 6.2

found it

aight good

Just wanna make sure I'm not stupid to actually cut it, I wanna copy it

ye

It's not there in the 7PE

09:50

wtf

09:50

hold on

09:51

on the PE it should be located in the system32 directory that it deploys from a wim file or some shit

09:51

just copy it to the root of the flash drive it dont matter

ok did it

now a quick disclaimer i dont actually know if its gonna work

09:52

but i dont see why it wouldnt

I'm a bit nervous

at the end of the day no data on your win8 partition should be affected

ok

09:53

hold on

I'm gonna boot into the PE

ok

Okay it's loaded

10:39

It opened up

10:40

What do I do again?

10:42

Okay I copied it

10:42

What now

did you boot into the pe?

Yes

ok so

10:43

do you see a command prompt

10:43

i am assuming you do because pe

Yes

10:43

I opened it

ok so run diskpart

10:43

and do list disk

Did it

take a pic and show the output

Disk 0 is the PC, and Disk 1 is the USB I assume

ye

10:44

sel disk 0

10:44

list part (edited)

skip

list part (edited)

select whichever partition is the win7 one

yeah so thats what i was talking about

Sel partition 1

extneded partition is like

10:47

one partition that can hold several logical volumes

10:47

ok

10:47

so select part 1

10:47

and assuming you have nothing important on it, del part

hold on

10:50

you installed windows on a logical partition?

yeah

10:51

he did

howd you even manage to make an extended partition

10:52

like how do you do that from the windows installer

It's sort of complicated

10:56

I deleted it now

10:57

What should I do

11:00

?

DeRosenberg

What should I do

uhh

11:01

use bcdboot

11:01

@DeRosenberg ok so like, do list vol in diskpart

11:02

and see what letter your win8 partition is

11:02

if it doesnt have a letter, assign letter c: or any other letter

11:02

if it does then good

I'll exit diskpart

11:03

Nowait

you gotta find out the letter of your win8 partition first

Volume 1 D Windows 8

ok D

11:04

so

11:04

exit diskpart

Did that

bcdboot D:\Windows

11:05

are you on bios or uefi

BIOS

ok then no extra problems

11:05

just do that

11:05

and it should work

Failure when attempting to copy boot filles

fail

11:06

uhhhh try rebooting i guess

11:06

the bootloader should still be in place

11:08

wait

11:08

@DeRosenberg we forgot to mark the partition as active

11:08

in diskpart

11:08

thats why it didnt copy

Oh

11:13

The Windows partition?

yerp

Good you say it because I'm still in cmd

11:14

And diskpart

sel vol 1

11:14

active (edited)

11:14

i think

11:14

or no

try either part 0 or 2

Wait no

and active them

11:15

volume might not work

yeah not vol

11:15

sel part 0

11:15

active

It's DVD ROM

11:16

Disk 0 is the dvd rom

not vol 0

11:16

part 0

11:16

this

Oh

11:18

try sel part 2 then

11:18

and active

Same error

bruh

11:19

then uhh

11:19

yeah idk

11:19

you may have to reboot

Well fuck

11:19

I'll try

11:20

Oh reboot and select boot device

thats bad

11:21

logical partitions are literally evil

11:22

@DeRosenberg so anyways reboot into pe, make a new partition from the unallocated space, copy all of your files to there

And install windows 8

you're gonna need to delete the logical partition off the face of earth

11:23

and yeah

11:23

that

11:25

there was something wrong with the partitions as the drive became unbootable just by deleting the win7 partition (edited)

So I'll winntsetup

you dont really have a choice

11:25

winntsetup runs from PE doesnt it

But the problem is that it's an older version so I'll extract the esd file off it

skip

winntsetup runs from PE doesnt it

It has winntsetup so yes it runs

skip

winntsetup runs from PE doesnt it

I remember running it from HirensBootCD which is based on WinPE

11:26

so yes

sorry for fucking up your install whyyy

@DeRosenberg what do you need to do?

11:31

like, what do you want to do

11:31

and what were you trying to do earlier

i tried to help him reapply the bootloader to his logical windows 8 partition

11:31

but welp bcdboot just said NOPE

don't ever use logical partitions

exactly

best bet - reinstall Windows on a primary partition

11:32

this means you'll have to lose data

11:32

have a backup at least somewhere

he can copy all of his files from PE

but where does he copy to?

like make a new partition from the free space after 7

skip

like make a new partition from the free space after 7

copy all of the files there

11:32

delete the logical partition

11:32

make a new ntfs partition and install 8 there

hmmm sounds like a good system

also dont you need a system partition for it to work

11:33

he didnt have one

System Reserved?

yeah that one

you need that for the bootloader

i always had it on my mbr installs

yeah you definitely need it

linux usually hooks that partition into grub

11:33

which means it has something to do with booting

WinNTSetup requires that partition in order to be able to install

you can make it from diskpart iirc

though you can make your own System Reserved

11:35

just a 500MB partition with these things applied

skip

sorry for fucking up your install whyyy

No worries, i have the pe and the iso after all

do you need help setting up the partitions and stuff rn

I'm here if needed as well

11:35

Dynamic disk is this normal?

boi that disk is screwed

11:36

you gotta yknow

11:36

wipe it

don't use dynamic disks either

I'm afraid the iso will get deleted

best bet - wipe the whole disk

11:36

aka clean it

do you have any other computers you could copy stuff onto

but then

What about the iso

you can do it with network shares

11:36

or smth

Also no

FUCK

you don't have a USB stick either?

look you have a phone

11:37

copy the iso there via usb

Yeah

that's what I was about to say

No internet for the PE

while you're in WinPE, copy your stuff

Hold on

you dont need internet

yeah, just a USB cable

should just connect with the default usb drivers

11:37

i hope

iirc Windows does come with MTP drivers

I have the iso in my phone

I remember using my phone with Vista on my PC (with no additional drivers because Haswell

)

DeRosenberg

I have the iso in my phone

ok thats good

Connected it and it doesn't detect anything

ffs

urgh

I'm screwed

11:40

why are there 2 partitions

11:40

for win8

Idk

so many questions

bru its split across the drive

I'm scared

do you really have no usb drives

do you have a friend with a computer

im feeling so guilty rn

No and no

DeRosenberg

No and no

none of your friends have a PC?

I might buy a USB down my house

thats the only way

#RadMorning

none of your friends have a PC?

They have but idk how to say it

theyre not willing to help you ig (edited)

'heyo mate can I borrow your PC because I screwed my PC up and'

11:44

that's not helpful

skip

theyre not willing to help you ig (edited)

people can be such jerks

what is the issue?

Cup tried installing Windows 8, skip tried to help

11:46

and things went absolutely nowhere

he had win8 installed on a logical drive and it very quickly delved into logical partition hell

11:47

bootloader wouldnt apply

11:47

boom

11:47

unbootable

11:47

never use logical drives

1. split across two partitions 2. dynamic disk 3. logical partition

11:47

absolute hell

Yes

skip

why are there 2 partitions

thats has something to do with an dynamic disk i believe

11:47

it looks like its splitted but it is not

he now has to back up his data and wipe his drive but he has no other pcs or usb drive

11:48

so yeah

in order to merge both and make it basic you need to format the disk entirely

screwed

or friends that are willing to help

lodocus

in order to merge both and make it basic you need to format the disk entirely

he knows already

Its actually still part of windows 8 (C:) (edited)

I might buy a USB stick

looks like splitted but not

barisberat

Its actually still part of windows 8 (C:) (edited)

he needs to have it as a primary partition

no installation media?

but converting it from logical to primary requires wiping

I have the ISO

no anything

11:48

only win7 pe sd card

11:48

and an iso on the already fucked up drive

11:49

its bigger than the sd card so no way to copy it either

And on the phone

phone doesnt connect to pe

11:49

no mtp driver

if you can load up to some windows setup hit shift+f10 type in regedit to the cmd and click on import on the top left corner. in there you can browse files and copy/move them to places

such a complicated situation we're in

or use cmd commands to move stuff around but that a bit advanced

lodocus

if you can load up to some windows setup hit shift+f10 type in regedit to the cmd and click on import on the top left corner. in there you can browse files and copy/move them to places

he has an entire pe environment with tools and such

11:50

im sure it has a proper file manager at least

11:51

i would say buy a usb drive and use it with winntsetup

#RadMorning

but converting it from logical to primary requires wiping

my storage disk is stuck like that for a year

I'll try and get it

i cant move 500gb data to somewhere else to wipe and fix the disk

11:52

it works fine though

if only i were more careful

lodocus

my storage disk is stuck like that for a year

i dont even understand how people get their drives to become logical

it doesnt boot up right?

nope

11:54

no boot data

11:55

he could try creating a system reserved partition or whatever

11:55

and apply the bootloader using that

Good news

11:55

My dad allowed me to buy a USB

coolly

Bad news, the store won't open until 6 or 5 PM

make sure it has enough space to fit the data youre hopefully able to back up

11:55

ow

Yeah

rn its what, 3pm?

Almost 2

even worse

like ive said after entering a windows setup you can enter regedit from cmd and use the file manager that comes with it

Hmmm

you can use a file manager from that pe disk

11:56

im sure theres one

11:56

like total commander or something

11:56

or heck it may have an entire explorer already running

you can move your important stuff using that and wipe the disk later

yep good

11:57

you can just use the windows file manager to copy ur stuff

this is why i keep a separate partition for every important thing

11:57

i dont keep anything at all on c:

so the plan is as follows

skip

so the plan is as follows

buy usb drive, copy iso and important files to usb drive, wipe entire drive using diskpart

11:59

properly partition the drive

11:59

copy all the files back

11:59

use poweriso to make windows 8 installation usb??

11:59

no winntsetup needed

b

he has no other disk/partition?

no

even better

are you /srs or /j

kidding of course

12:01

i guess he can only use his usb to save his stuff

12:01

i was thinking he could just move the stuff to other partitions

12:02

thats why ive recommended windows setup trick

Honestly I'll use winntsetup for the installation and the usb for restoring files

12:30

Copying files

you still gotta copy the iso to the usb

Hmmm

12:31

Yeah that

12:31

Then put the ISO back into the new volume disk

Just got the USB

16:25

16GB

16:26

HIKVISION M200

16:26

2.0

16:27

Copying the files

I copied it, now what should I do again

16:49

Delete it from the computer management

16:49

Or the disk part

16:55

?

16:56

Nvm

So the winntsetup said that the device is not ready on bootfiles but it kept doing it

17:35

It kept continuing the process

17:37

Bulid mutil boot files

17:48

Yep

17:48

Select proper boot device

17:48

Hold on I have an idea

What have you done so far?

17:50

from the moment you got the USB stick

Copied the files

17:51

Use the esd from the iso

DeRosenberg

So the winntsetup said that the device is not ready on bootfiles but it kept doing it

This here

17:51

Restarted it

17:52

And it has the boot device error

What drive did you image the ESD to?

17:52

Your hard drive or?

My USB

You tried to install Windows onto the USB?

No

17:52

I used the ESD from the usb

17:52

To try and install it on my drive

17:52

C

thats not how u do it

Did you clean the drive beforehand?

we told you to copy the iso to the usb

I did

and use winntsetup

17:53

to install it

#RadMorning

Did you clean the drive beforehand?

Yes

17:53

Winntsetup is based on an older version and that is version 3

I don't think that should present a problem

17:54

did you make the USB a Windows installation USB?

17:54

so you could have WinPE?

#RadMorning

did you make the USB a Windows installation USB?

No

17:56

The 2GB is the PE

so you do have a bootable environment now?

Wdym

17:56

No

do you have any sort of OS to boot into now

No

17:57

I might use poweriso to install windows 8 (edited)

poweriso

you said you wiped the drive

lol

shush

17:57

did you make the System Reserved partition after that?

No idk

because that's what Win8 boots from

hold on, if you wiped the drive

17:58

did you create any partition afterwards?

Guys for fuck's sake I backed the files to my USB

17:58

And yes i did

so you didn't leave it at Unallocated

DeRosenberg

Guys for fuck's sake I backed the files to my USB

?, didnt say anything about losing your data

17:58

what did you create it with

17:58

windows setup?

oofer_dww

what did you create it with

The setup or my files

17:59

I used Winntsetup

partition

what did you create the partition with

Computer management

i see winpe

17:59

okay

17:59

so

17:59

you dont have install media on hand rn?

17:59

why dont you just do this

I get the feeling the photo is from earlier

extract win8 iso and install it using the winpe

18:00

?

18:00

I'm very confused

its not the same disk

18:00

im guessing its a 2gb flash or something?

That's the PE

okay so look

Can you boot to WinPE from the USB?

The pe that I'm running win7

#RadMorning

Can you boot to WinPE from the USB?

Yeah

do you have a windows setup usb

oh okay

ready to go

he didn't make it

Why can't I just use Poweriso or something to run the exe

you can

18:01

look

18:01

just run the setup

18:01

on winpe

18:02

install it on disk 0

18:02

and thats it

Ok hold on

no need for all this confusion

oofer_dww

no need for all this confusion

confusion = WinNTSetup

#RadMorning

because that's what Win8 boots from

this isn't necessary. it needs to be a boot partition

ImSwordQueen

this isn't necessary. it needs to be a boot partition

?

18:03

the partition needs to satisfy these 3 to make windows boot

I was talking about System Reserved

18:03

that's where the bootloader is

18:04

it is necessary

yeah system reserved isn't needed most of the times

so you could have the bootloader on the main partition itself?

yeah

and just set it as a boot partition

I'll use the imdisk option

yeah, mount it

windows makes the partition in case you are a moron and breaks your install often

18:05

so you can go into recovery still

18:05

but it's not necessary for windows to boot

Did that

I suppose... do what oofer said

I'll open the setup.exe

launch setup.exe

ImSwordQueen

but it's not necessary for windows to boot

that's also the case with vista

18:06

it doesn't have a system reserved partition

okay, got it

Doesn't open

I had doubts it would open

When I click on the cd it doesn't open to the window

18:07

Hold on

18:07

Maybe I should move the iso to the disk

@oofer_dww how did you imagine this

whats going on

Cup has the USB

18:11

he has WinPE up

18:11

he has the Win8 ISO

18:11

he cleaned his drive and made a primary partition

18:11

all that is left to do is... install Win8

18:11

he tried through WinNTSetup

18:12

but he:

didn't make the System Reserved partition
didn't set the primary partition as bootable

and now?

oofer suggested another method

mounting the iso and running setup.exe

basically - just open setup within WinPE

which doesnt run?

exactly

how about...

18:13

now that the partitions work

18:13

copy all the files back

18:13

and use poweriso to make a win8 install usb (edited)

WinPE is on the USB

18:13

but he can transfer it back to his PC

Nevermind

18:13

It opened

really?

or go thru the mess of

#RadMorning

WinPE is on the USB

didnt he have an sd card?

Install now

18:13

Yes

make the partitions with a 3rd party tool

skip

didnt he have an sd card?

Look dude

18:14

I bought a 16gb USB okay

ImSwordQueen

make the partitions with a 3rd party tool

he can do it through diskmgmt

I copied the files

i mean it would be easier by doing it on a 3rd party tool but diskmgmt can work

why have a third party thing when a first party thing exists already

18:15

anyhow

DeRosenberg

Install now

did you click it

i dont get it how did he just move his entire pe to the usb

18:15

from the sd card

i mean it makes shit easier

it's not that difficult with diskmgmt

18:15

we would help him step by step

not until diskmgmt doesn't work for some reason

but it has worked all this time

#RadMorning

but it has worked all this time

Failed to set partition as active

#RadMorning

did you click it

Yes

skip

Failed to set partition as active

nevermind!

skip

i dont get it how did he just move his entire pe to the usb

No I copied my files

18:16

The games the stuff I have

DeRosenberg

Yes

are you getting somewhere (edited)

umm why is there unallocated space

it's literally 0.0MB

i suggest you delete all those partitions and make just one

18:18

it may confuse the installer

Can't

18:18

Ok

it has already confused the installer

I get it

18:18

Again same error

18:18

God fucking damn it

I have an idea that may work

18:19

I remember having this error

18:19

so

18:19

clean the whole drive with diskpart

yeah uh

18:19

you dont open setup.exe

18:19

you open sources\setup.exe

18:19

i forgot to tell you about that

where were you the whole time

18:19

okay

buying groceries

18:19

sorry

let's try that before trying something else

18:19

@DeRosenberg

18:20

get out of setup

Yes

oofer_dww

you open sources\setup.exe

and open setup from here

Ok

18:20

Did it

win8 has the different setup.exe on root which doesnt work under winpe

DeRosenberg

Did it

did it run?

DeRosenberg

Click to see attachment 🖼️

wtf is with ur monitor?

wow damaged monitor

18:21

does it matter much

i just wanna know how did he damage it

not the time for that

Don't ask

18:21

I don't know and I'm getting tired of being asked this question

okay

18:22

what about the setup

18:22

has something happened

Setup is starting

has it started

mmm okay

No bot that

okay, well it isn't okay

Same error

18:25

Fuck I'm nervous god-damn it

wait wait wait

open diskpart

18:25

select disk 0

18:26

clean

18:26

cre par pri

18:26

for fs=ntfs quick

wait

assign letter C

which os does he have?

and go again

and why is it giving him trouble?

Deformisani SAS

which os does he have?

its winpe right now

Deformisani SAS

which os does he have?

none

huh

Did it

18:27

I'm gonna go to the gym

18:27

But I really need to install Windows fast

ok so run setup again

18:27

hopefully it will show up right this time

@DeRosenberg have you opened setup

Yes I did

'Setup is starting'?

Same error

18:30

Fuck ke fuck me fuck me fuck me

18:30

Oh man man what do I fo

I have a suggestion

I'm stressef out

18:30

Fucking didis

but I hope I don't get interrupted

dont think diskpart in your winpe is functioning properly

It finished and stuff

18:30

It was completely fine

do you think you could do something like mount the iso

I did

the idea is

18:30

mount the ISO

no i mean mount and boot

18:31

from it

18:31

you can use something like easybcd to do it

wait!

Oh

wait

18:31

my idea was: make a 5GB partition - mount the ISO within WinPE - copy the contents from the ISO to the partition using xcopy - make it bootable

18:31

and install Windows that way

18:32

so the setup boots directly from the drive

welp

18:32

okay

@DeRosenberg I can guide you

18:32

you here?

I'm getting pressured by my dad to go to gyk

18:33

So i'll do it later

...tell your dad it can wait

He told me to do it later so I could it whenever I want later

18:34

I can't

18:34

Sorry

18:34

Bye

._.

18:34

bye

18:36

@DeRosenberg btw ping me when you're back

@#RadMorning

okay

19:55

are you in WinPE?

Wdym

19:56

okay so

19:56

open diskpart

Opened it

type 'list disk'

Did it

what disk is your main drive

19:57

what number

19:57

Disk 0

okay

19:57

type 'select disk 0'

Did it

now type 'clean' to clean the whole disk

Cleaned it

19:58

Succeed in cleaning the disk

type 'create partition primary size=5000' to make a 5GB partition

Did that

was it created successfully?

Yes

now type 'format fs=ntfs quick' to format the partition

Wait

20:00

Welp

did it format?

Should I do that

yes

#RadMorning

now type 'format fs=ntfs quick' to format the partition

^

Did it

was it successful?

Yes

now type 'assign' to assign a drive letter

yeah, looks good

Did it as c

20:02

But I think I should do it as D

it doesn't matter much

Hold on

20:03

Made it G

20:03

Now what

alright

20:03

now type 'active' to make that the active partition

Active

did everything go correctly?

Yeh

okay

20:04

now mount your Win8 ISO

How do I do that

using the 'Mount as ImDisk Virtual Disk'

20:04

you did that at one point

20:04

right click on ISO > that option

20:05

I should do it as G

that's alright

DeRosenberg

I should do it as G

It's not here

20:06

Fuck

did you mount it properly

20:06

wait, you made your main partition G

20:06

mount the ISO as a different letter

20:07

literally any other letter

20:07

other than F and G

Rip

can you mount it

I can

20:07

Hold on

20:08

okay

20:08

can you see your G: partition

Yes

okay

20:09

now open Command Prompt as Administrator

20:09

Start menu > search for 'cmd' > right click on cmd > Run as Administrator

Yes

20:10

I already had it opened

okay

20:10

now type 'xcopy h: g:/e/h/k' to copy the contents of the Windows 8 ISO to that 5GB partition

20:12

did the command work?

okay

20:12

it's good

20:13

alert me when it's done

Aight

20:15

Done

20:15

@#RadMorning

okay

20:15

now take out both your SD card and USB stick

20:16

and reboot your PC

What's that gonna do

20:16

I'm scared

taking out your removable devices will prevent you from screwing up the disk formatting process in Windows Setup

20:16

just in case measure

Ok I'll try

Hopefully, when you reboot, you should be in the Windows Setup

Removed them

Time for the reboot

Rebooting rn

20:18

Oh

20:18

It's loading

20:18

Yay

20:18

'Setup is starting'?

Purple screen

has it moved from the purple screen?

No not yet

20:20

Oh wait

20:20

It loaded

okay

20:21

tell me when you're at the disk selection screen

Setup is starting

ah

20:23

has it loaded?

Setup is starting

okay, wait patiently

License terms section

okay

Custom install

20:26

pick that

you've picked the right partition

20:27

proceed

Oh

20:28

Ok

has it transitioned to the installation?

20:29

did you get to the screen with 'Copying Windows files - Extracting files etc.'

Yes

it's good then!

19%

20:34

what's the status now?

76

okay

Updates

20:37

Finishing up

20:37

Restart now

Windows starting

has it started?

wait patiently... yet again

Getting ready

20:42

After the installation what should I do with the 5GB disk

20:42

Should I use common sense and keep it incase something is wrong?

yeah, that's what I would do

Ok good

but if you want the 5GB back, you can try and remove the partition, then extend the main partition

It has dualboot so this should be good

#RadMorning

but if you want the 5GB back, you can try and remove the partition, then extend the main partition

I would keep it

okay

20:44

btw did you get the screen where you choose between 'Windows Setup' and 'Windows 8'?

Da

okay

That's why it's good

20:46

Done

20:46

Hi

20:46

While we're getting things ready

yeah it's the tutorial

20:46

that you probably don't care about

20:46

but that you have to watch

if your pc is fast enough you can bypass it with ctrl+alt+del

Done

20:47

Thanks

20:47

For everything

no problem!

20:47

btw

20:47

you can now connect your phone to your PC

and turn on 'USB tethering' to get internet access via your phone

DeRosenberg

Click to see attachment 🖼️

alrighty!

20:48

you can now plug in your USB stick and SD card

20:48

Is this good?

#RadMorning

and turn on 'USB tethering' to get internet access via your phone

I have a WIFI USB

20:48

So this should be good

DeRosenberg

I have a WIFI USB

said that in case you need to get drivers for it

DeRosenberg

Is this good?

looks fine

I have it

even better then

I'm copying my files

great

I said copy not cut because backup

makes sense

20:51

enjoy your new installation I suppose

Thanks and hey bro, thanks for the help I appreciate it

21:08

Two questions

21:08

Should I use Windows Update? How do I activate Windows? (edited)

1. Yeah, use WU

21:11

2. A way I found is to use MAS - Microsoft Activation Scripts

21:11

and the Online KMS option (with automatic renewal)

21:11

though someone probably has a better way of activating it

21:11

but that's the way I went with and it works just fine

21:12

completely free

21:12

free of viruses and free of charge

21:12

https://github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts/releases/tag/1.5

Release v1.5 Important Update · massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scr...

MAS 1.5 Changelog: Click to expand All Support added for Windows build 22483 and later (No wmic.exe issue) Support added for ARM64 architecture in all the scripts Made sure script run fine where p...

Question

just change the kms server lmfao

Is updating Windows Update with me activating windows would cause issues

DeRosenberg

Is updating Windows Update with me activating windows would cause issues

nope

Oh ok

21:15

ok I'm on PC

21:15

With discord

#RadMorning

https://github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts/releases/tag/1.5

I can guide you through this

21:15

oofer probably mentioned the best way

Go ahead

but he wasn't helpful... at all

21:16

press '3' for Online KMS

21:16

press 'I' for the activation renewal every 180 days

21:17

then press '1' to activate Windows

Ok I'll remember that

21:17

thanks for the info btw

np

21:19

also, why did you want to reinstall Win8?

21:19

you were on 7 before from what I saw

all you need is to google search a kms server for win8 slmgr -ipk THE-KEY-THEY-PROVIDED slmgr -skms KMS-SERVER-ADDRESS slmgr -ato and i believe it renews the activation every 30 days at least its been doing that on my end to check how many days your activation has left, run slmgr -dlv and it will give you day count, if its close to expiring, renew it with slmgr -ato https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/740945838607564930/1000026742431428688/unknown.png (edited)

#RadMorning pinned a message to this channel. 22/07/2022 21:21

#RadMorning

also, why did you want to reinstall Win8?

I installed it, but my stupidness broke the PC so the person who repaired it made it Win7

okay

21:23

I'm guessing Win8 runs the best on your PC

21:23

BTW thanks @oofer_dww for the explanation

i had a hell of a time when i first installed 7 on my 9th gen board

21:24

mainly because the thing was uefi and i had to use fat32, iso over 4gb

21:24

i had to write winpe bootdisk and all that

21:25

its a simple trick really but, if the thing is UEFI

21:25

and your iso is over 4gb

21:25

with no large fat32

win7 was so slow

write a winpe made with ADK

And no

21:25

I didn't install any updates

I was about to guess it was updates that made it slow

write that onto USB, boot it(DO NOT SHUT IT DOWN), then reflash the usb with the iso on NTFS and run setup from it on winpe

21:26

if you have absolutely no choice, this is only a last resort solution

This tool claims to remove the glass8 watermark, looks fishy though... even Painter advises to not use it

E2

This tool claims to remove the glass8 watermark, looks fishy though... even Painter advises to not use it

try it

06:31

when even PainteR says "don't use that" you know it's sus (edited)

Thank god for VM's

i assume you're on 9789 ?

06:35

no

06:35

9879

Indeed

i made my own left titlebar patch for 9879 a while back

06:36

lost it though

It fits

ah you made yours too

06:37

lol

With symbols every american dream is possible

uDWMleft_9879.zip

357.63 KB

Vruh 2

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Cool cool. I fucking hate the watermark though

06:38

Seemingly Painter intentionally skipped experimental versions

i might still have 9879 on my hdd

Did you get transparent taskbar with the aerolite hack?

no i used the cli aero tool

Vruh 2

i might still have 9879 on my hdd

I installed it to attempt to fix the VMware shutdown/restart bug

Vruh 2

no i used the cli aero tool

Mind linking that?

it's in the aero8 site

06:40

i don't think i have it

It's gone, reduced to atoms.

archive.org?

I think someone made a backup though

Vruh 2

archive.org?

Oh yeah, archive.org exists

my limited asm knowledge from months ago is reduced

06:41

to atoms

06:41

in the meanwhile

06:41

do you finally have time

I learned some, but suddenly I am now very busy with applying to universities

06:42

But yes, I do have some time

finally i guess

06:42

lol

I decided to torture myself with learning proper debugging

i wish i could write an autopatcher for udwm for text alignment

06:43

but it varies too much

It shouldn't be hard for a fair range. One can write it like BigMuscle's glass8 hook

06:44

Use symbols to locate the function and mov rax, 0 it

i was thinking bytepatch udwm but i guess

06:44

that is more convenient

Yeah, just meant the symbol thing

i'm really curious what changed between 7850 and 7875

06:45

that made the captions smaller

E2

This tool claims to remove the glass8 watermark, looks fishy though... even Painter advises to not use it

can you test it ?

Vruh 2

i'm really curious what changed between 7850 and 7875

And I'm curious to compare the 9909 uDWM to 9926 one

Vruh 2

can you test it ?

Sure

07:07

I'll have to disable ACPI in the guest tho, lol

A potential bomb on my screen

Yeah, seeing no effect at all

08:12

I'll assume it doesn't support 1.3.1

12:09

java required

12:10

dot net framework 4.5 also required

12:10

and visual c++ redistrubutable 2013 required

I have the wallpaper bug in Windows 8

12:33

What should I do

^ cry

12:34

and delete all kb5xxx updates

How do I do that without damanging the system

control panel

12:34

uninstall updates

12:37

just don't search

12:37

search is just a mess

12:38

btw yeah. that's the update @DeRosenberg

12:39

you downloaded the broken iso by mistake

probably

you are better off

12:39

reinstalling the whole thing

12:39

and use the 2021-12 iso

because the 2021-03 iso has broken net 4.8

12:40

which breaks some net 4.8 programs

oh

or if you want to be safe 2021-02 v2

literally the second pin

12:40

2021-12 is safe too

12:40

no 2021-03 and 2021-04

12:40

aka the wallpaper bug updates from 2021

let me unpin the 2021-03 link

12:41

so nobody would use it

gotta update the forum

that too

downloading the 12 iso

12:42

Btw what should I do with this drive that has the 02 ISO

mount the 2021-12 ISO

replace the 02 iso with the 12 one

do the xcopy thing

i mean

12:43

why not just using explorer

12:43

he is in windows after all

hmm

12:43

if you say so

12:43

you can also just select all and copy to the 5GB partition

got real

#RadMorning

do the xcopy thing

So I delete the Windows 8 02 files via explorer on the disk and put the 12 one via xcopy? (edited)

you don't have to use xcopy

use explorer for everything

just delete the old files and copy the new files using Explorer

https://forum.eclectic4un.me/viewtopic.php?p=62

Windows 8.0 Updated up to 2021-12

The title is self explainatory, it's a Windows 8.0 iso with updates up to 2021-03, but it doesn't include just updates, lolno. Misc things included: .NET 4.8 (y

12:47

finally got around to it

12:47

and i already fucked up

12:47

forgor to change a 2021-03 reference

12:47

fixed now

#RadMorning

just delete the old files and copy the new files using Explorer

oh ok

12:48

Hopefully I don't fuck up

you forgot a thing scamdisk

12:48

2022 updates are all bad

12:48

or almost all bad

Also I should add like 10 GB space more because the 12 iso is larger in size

should be fixed now

DeRosenberg

Also I should add like 10 GB space more because the 12 iso is larger in size

how big is the ISO

5.8 GB

yeah i tried compressing it as much as possible

12:50

didnt go as planned

12:50

esd still ended up been 5gb

actually

fuck winsxs

you can use NTLite

12:50

delete the other skus

12:50

and keep only professional

12:50

or core or ProWMC

Can't extend it

12:50

fuck

conversion to wim has to be done first

DeRosenberg

Can't extend it

you know what

12:51

try doing the normal procedure first

12:51

you have a USB stick now

or do a direct upgrade

I wouldn't bother with upgrades

12:51

just in case something breaks

12:51

for some reason

a inplace upgrade could work

12:51

but yeah you're right

upgrades to the same sku and same OS would be a mess tbf

#RadMorning

you have a USB stick now

True

12:52

I'll use rufus

yup

i forgot i made it so it's always old setup

I'll probably keep the windows disk

12:52

or idk

instead of mosetup

DeRosenberg

I'll probably keep the windows disk

you can delete it

how

i love how 8 colors are always fucked with glass8

you may not be able to delete it actually

12:53

usually you can right click on the volume in diskmgmt and 'Delete Volume'

12:53

but since it's the first partition on your disk

yeah...

12:54

i nuked mosetup

the taskbar is a little piece of shit

Fuck my wifi adapter

no

it disconnected suddenly meaning the ISO stopped downloading

12:56

and it even said that I can't continue it because it's forbidden

._.

I'll use my phone instead

#RadMorning

usually you can right click on the volume in diskmgmt and 'Delete Volume'

Can't

yeah

12:57

because it's the first volume on the disk

ye

13:00

Should I delete the letter off the disk

13:00

Or it doesn't matter

that wouldn't be of much use

hmm

13:02

13:03

what should I do

13:03

I said no

what are you trying to do even

Remove the letter

why

idk, put it back to where it was

when you reinstall Windows

13:04

you're gonna be cleaning the whole disk anyway

13:04

how much stuff have you got backed up on the USB stick BTW

13:04

how much space does it take up

6GB or whatever

DeRosenberg

it disconnected suddenly meaning the ISO stopped downloading

use a download manager

google drive

even if jdownloader supports google drive links somehow

DeRosenberg

Fuck my wifi adapter

use Ethernet

DeRosenberg

6GB or whatever

6GB + 5.8GB for the ISO = 11.8GB

RaduTek

use Ethernet

there must be a reason he's using a Wi-Fi adapter and not Ethernet

like when you need to download a large file just move your laptop close to the router and plug it in

.

13:08

I use a PC

13:08

desktop

then you should have no excuse for not connecting it via wired

It's far away

13:08

Plus it's on a wall

13:08

impossible

never impossible

'buy a very long cable'

13:09

easy!1

really it's easy

13:09

I got a 10 meter cable for like $5 and it does gigabit just fine (edited)

It's easy for you but it's not easy for me

13:09

Simple

well there's always a solution to run the wire (edited)

RaduTek

I got a 10 meter cable for like $5 and it does gigabit just fine (edited)

i use a 10 meter cable myself to connect my pc to my router (in my home in ukraine obviously)

ukrainaiaa

here in the netherlands we don't even get an ethernet port (edited)

13:10

and have shitty wifi (edited)

RaduTek

well there's always a solution to run the wire (edited)

well yeah, but I'm already downloading it on my phone so no need

DeRosenberg

well yeah, but I'm already downloading it on my phone so no need

he's about to kill you

13:11

as if he hasn't killed you already

would rather go back to ukraine than suffer through all shit i have to go through here

rip

reminds me of when I downloaded some ROMs on my phone via 4G

RayZen

would rather go back to ukraine than suffer through all shit i have to go through here

What's wrong

(no ethernet at all, shitty wifi)

DeRosenberg

What's wrong

food sucks, internet sucks, living here in general sucks

1

damn

RayZen

food sucks, internet sucks, living here in general sucks

you can't even cook food yourself

13:11

because ukrainians are too dumb to cook apparently (edited)

RayZen

you can't even cook food yourself

ouuch

13:12

even in greece in my hotel room we had a stove to cook

@DeRosenberg how big is your USB stick (I know it's 16GB, but how much does Windows show)

RayZen

because ukrainians are too dumb to cook apparently (edited)

and you get shitty food that is either entirely tasteless or too spicy to even be good for your health

14.6

good

windows shows my usb as 14.8

same

RayZen

and you get shitty food that is either entirely tasteless or too spicy to even be good for your health

and people ask why i want to return to ukraine

13:13

there's no point to be here in the first place

Copying them

USB 2 or USB 3?

2

my usb is 2.0

same here (edited)

I have USB 3.0 drives but really why I got them is their minimum viable write speed

RayZen

there's no point to be here in the first place

i should just return back to ukraine, it's not like i live in a place that is affected by the war

RaduTek

I have USB 3.0 drives but really why I got them is their minimum viable write speed

USB 2.0 drives are just too slow in term of write speed

RayZen

there's no point to be here in the first place

At least you're out of Ukraine for your safety but I can understand your feeling about where you live

RaduTek

USB 2.0 drives are just too slow in term of write speed

can take up to half an hour to write a fucking ISO

RaduTek

USB 2.0 drives are just too slow in term of write speed

I suffer with USB 2.0, but at least it works

meanwhile my USB 3.0 drive is ready in 5-10 mins (which I also find a bit slow) (edited)

though I have 3.0 ports on my laptop

DeRosenberg

At least you're out of Ukraine for your safety but I can understand your feeling about where you live

what kind of safety

I haven't got any USB 3.0 drives

I should use a USB HDD really

I used to have a 1TB USB HDD

13:15

but it broke :(

cause even a 5200 RPM drive is faster than USB flash drives

RayZen

what kind of safety

About the war

RayZen

what kind of safety

as i said again there were no attacks in my town and it's the 5th month of the invasion of already

it was also a USB 3.0 drive

I have a 160 GB drive from my Eee PC that I have no use for

the drive itself may be fine

13:15

but the circuitry used for the Mini USB port is broken

is it embedded on the HDD board?

13:16

or a separate interface board

I don't know as I haven't tried opening the HDD just yet

Question

open it, it may be separate so then you can just use the HDD as a SATA drive

if it's a normal SATA to Mini USB converter board

13:16

then I can perhaps rescue the drive

#RadMorning

then I can perhaps rescue the drive

you can, no perhaps (edited)

13:17

if it's all on the HDD board then it's gone

I should use the phone to copy my files (not the ISO) from the USB

13:17

oops

the thing is... I have no idea how to open it

13:17

it looks sealed shut

send a picture

13:17

also would help if you put a ruler along the longer side

13:17

cause you can tell if it has an interface board inside by the length

it's not Mini USB, I'm dumb

13:17

it's Micro USB with an extension for 3.0

13:17

photo coming soon

13:20

look here ^

13:20

if the USB interface is on the HDD board, then it won't be much longer than the bare drive (edited)

hmm

13:20

nope

13:21

it probably doesn't have such a board

13:21

especially since it's a Seagate

13:21

they and WD do the USB controller on the HDD board

13:21

because then you can't purchase an external HDD to get the SATA drive cheaper

13:22

they do a similar trick for 3.5" external HDDs

13:22

where a pin on the SATA power cable is used to detect if the HDD's connected to a PC power supply

13:22

and if it detects 3.3V on the pin (which is normal per SATA standard) it won't turn on (edited)

13:22

fix is easy, just put a piece of tape over the pin

Drive was bought in February 2021, it died in June 2021

don't you have warranty on it

13:24

cause then you can get a new drive (edited)

we tried using the warranty

13:24

but nothing came out of it

2

doesn't Serbia have some laws against this bullshit

Idk

we have many good laws that nobody respects

I know here in Romania you can get a refund of the price you paid for the product if they can't fix it or send you a replacement

13:25

and I have seen it in practice

13:26

when my mouse broke (due to me dropping it but shhh it had no external damage) and they couldn't fix it they gave me two options: get a new replacement or a refund (edited)

13:26

it was a minor defect, the wheel would sometimes miss a step or do 2 steps

#RadMorning

Drive was bought in February 2021, it died in June 2021

i had a similar experience, bought 3x WD 2tb usb hdd, and 2 of the 3 died in the first month

13:26

i still need to rma them just havent got around to it

13:26

i have 3 year warranty

the drive broke a little after I had put a big workload on it (pulled an all-nighter and the drive was being written to the whole time)

meanwhile my seagate that is 5 years old and has been dropped a million times still works great

because the project was on the HDD

13:27

and I was working on it

I have a 4 TB WD usb drive Been running just fine for 8 months

13:28

powered on 24/7 as a shared drive

13:28

but set up to spin down after like half an hour

13:28

which is how these drives are designed to work

i use mine for my game consoles so 4tb is too much

13:29

2tb is the max i can use on a fat32 partition

13:29

so i just use multiple 2tb if i need more than that

I barely have 550 GB used

RaduTek

I barely have 550 GB used

i could easily use 10tb on games & dlc for a single console

13:29

i am an unashamed pirate

could've gotten 2 TB drives and set them up in a mirrorred config to get backup

13:30

but it would've been slightly more expensive

pretty much the only storage I have: USB stick - 16GB 250-256GB drive in my laptop 64GB storage in my phone

#RadMorning

pretty much the only storage I have: USB stick - 16GB 250-256GB drive in my laptop 64GB storage in my phone

mac pro: 250gb nvme (macos boot), 2x 500gb hdd (macos storage jbod), 500gb sata ssd (windows 7 boot), 4tb hdd (windows storage)

13:31

server - 32gb sata ssd (boot), 5x 2tb hdd (storage)

13:31

laptop - 2tb nvme

that's a lot of storage

13:31

that you probably use very well

#RadMorning

that you probably use very well

most of the space on the server is just for movies/tv/anime lol

13:31

my actual data is much less

you don't like streaming? I can understand

#RadMorning

you don't like streaming? I can understand

no i run my own streaming server with jellyfin

13:32

that way i can get it in good quality from within my own home to any device

13:32

i have some friends who have accounts on my jellyfin & cloud servers too

13:32

so they use a bit of space as well

most of my storage is used for software

13:33

next is videos

13:33

then music (my downloaded library & torrents) (edited)

13:33

and last photos

I forgot

13:34

15GB Google Drive

RaduTek

most of my storage is used for software

i had a lot more data before but i lost it when the hdd in my old server died

13:34

i need to rebuild my software hoarding collection

13:34

ive been working on rebuilding it

I could probably only invest in Google Drive space

luckily all my photos were on google photos

as 100GB storage isn't very expensive

13:35

but I don't need it atm

thank god for free unlimited google photos space

#RadMorning

I could probably only invest in Google Drive space

google drive sucks because its rate limited

13:35

if you want to use it as an actual NAS its useless

13:35

same with mega

Michael

thank god for free unlimited google photos space

but it's gone now (unless you have a Pixel)

RaduTek

but it's gone now (unless you have a Pixel)

i have pixel 2xl and pixel 1xl

13:35

detected as pixel 5 in rom

yeah, yesterday I backed up my photos and videos to GPhotos

lucky you

the pixel 1xl will probably end up being my mom's because i dont use it anymore

and it complained about too much storage used

both are 128gb factory unlocked

RaduTek

lucky you

i didnt pay much for them

13:36

i got the pixel 1xl in early 2019 and back then it was like $110, and the 2xl i got about half a year ago and it was $70 (edited)

13:36

for 128gb factory unlocked in good condition

well I:

wanted a brand new phone (not used)
happy with Samsung's One UI
Pixels are pretty expensive here

im not a big brand new phone guy

I wanted to get a Pixel 4A, but Samsung's offering was much better

they are too expensive unless you contract through the carrier, but then you have to pay every month and u cant root it due to bootloader locking

I get a new phone every two years through my carrier

RaduTek

I wanted to get a Pixel 4A, but Samsung's offering was much better

and now that I have Galaxy Buds and a Galaxy Watch I can't leave that easy

their phones are always unlocked it seems

i would much rather an older phone thats cheap and already has well developed custom roms and mods

#RadMorning

their phones are always unlocked it seems

same for Romania, they don't lock phones anymore

yeah

mostly because all are dual SIM

13:38

except iPhones

exactly

RaduTek

same for Romania, they don't lock phones anymore

murica will never stop locking phones

13:38

that is our meta for cellular

"freedumb"

yup

funny how the freedom country is always working to reduce people's freedom with what they own to suit the corporates (edited)

we're more free

freedumb between one overpriced carrier with locked phones, or another even more overpriced carrier with locked phones

Freeurope

we pay $50/month per line and get 3gb 128kbps data

13:39

for the whole month

13:39

not per user

Michael

freedumb between one overpriced carrier with locked phones, or another even more overpriced carrier with locked phones

same for home internet and cable TV as I understand

but total

RaduTek

same for home internet and cable TV as I understand

home internet isnt as bad

13:39

we can get 1gbps up/down with at&t fiber for $80/month

Michael

we pay $50/month per line and get 3gb 128kbps data

I pay $5 for 80 GB of 4G (5G in select places), unlimited calls and SMS

RaduTek

I pay $5 for 80 GB of 4G (5G in select places), unlimited calls and SMS

my god

13:39

there is another carrier we will probs switch to where u can get unlimited everything for $30/month

13:39

at&t is just overpriced

home internet is like $9 for symmetric gigabit with no data limit

$5 is crazy though

13:40

everything is so cheap in europe

not really

13:40

westerners have it expensive

i literally cant afford to go to university here cuz i would have to pay $96,000 out of pocket, and thats after government financial aid and scholarships

Germany ain't that far from USA in terms of carriers (edited)

I pay this much for 40GB of unlimited speed internet, unlimited SMS and unlimited calls

Michael

i literally cant afford to go to university here cuz i would have to pay $96,000 out of pocket, and thats after government financial aid and scholarships

so im gonna go to a community college/tech school and hopefully that will be enough

Radu's plan is the best

lol you Serbs are having worse inflations (edited)

welp

Michael

i literally cant afford to go to university here cuz i would have to pay $96,000 out of pocket, and thats after government financial aid and scholarships

well here in Romania each big city has it's own suite of government funded universities and if you enter with good enough grades the government pays for it all

2800 serbian dinners is $25 usd

RaduTek

well here in Romania each big city has it's own suite of government funded universities and if you enter with good enough grades the government pays for it all

and with scholarships you can even go study abroad

RaduTek

well here in Romania each big city has it's own suite of government funded universities and if you enter with good enough grades the government pays for it all

wow

so 5$ for 80GB seems like a bargain

my test scores were good but i still cant afford it (edited)

13:41

financial aid has a bit of an oversight where if you are extremely poor it doesnt cover you

13:41

my family makes $0/year

13:42

my dad is dead and my mom doesnt work

RaduTek

well here in Romania each big city has it's own suite of government funded universities and if you enter with good enough grades the government pays for it all

same thing for Serbia, except there are less universities... but you can get into one of the existing ones if you have excellent grades

we pay 4.10 dollars for unlimited internet and calls in ukraine

13:42

in ukraine ofc

still primary, middle and high school is a disaster in Romania the curriculum is outdated, badly designed student performance is drastically dropping year by year pandemic made things twice as worse the national educational administration is just lowering the exam difficulty levels to count for the drop in teaching quality teachers are paid as worse as store clerks (no offense towards them)

RaduTek

still primary, middle and high school is a disaster in Romania the curriculum is outdated, badly designed student performance is drastically dropping year by year pandemic made things twice as worse the national educational administration is just lowering the exam difficulty levels to count for the drop in teaching quality teachers are paid as worse as store clerks (no offense towards them)

thats not any different than usa lol

that's a plan by lifecell (which is basically turkcell but in ukraine for turkish people here)

have u seen average american intelligence

Michael

have u seen average american intelligence

well that's a hint to why there are still so many trump supporters

too much radiation from the ethyl gas we used to use made us dumb

the price for the university I want to go to

RaduTek

well that's a hint to why there are still so many trump supporters

i actually dont see why people hate trump

13:44

hot take

and we have a trump like cult starting for a new party that pretty much wants to "make our country great again"

nobody seems to actually know why they dont like him

13:44

its just a hivemind

well it's like 2 hiveminds

Michael

nobody seems to actually know why they dont like him

yeah

ones that blindly love and ones that blindly hate

I honestly prefer Trump to Biden

i dont rly care about politics though, ive never voted and never will

I don't like what Trump did to Huawei

#RadMorning

I honestly prefer Trump to Biden

did u see biden talking about why him and everyone he grew up with had cancer

every recent usa president was fine honestly

Michael

did u see biden talking about why him and everyone he grew up with had cancer

nope

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK-KIWhEWbU

GOP War Room

Joe Biden: "That's Why I, And So Damn Many Other People I Grew Up W...

Michael

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK-KIWhEWbU

@#RadMorning

RayZen

every recent usa president was fine honestly

nah to me it seems like they're all dumbasses

RaduTek

nah to me it seems like they're all dumbasses

they werent bad but there are people who legitimately think trump was the best president in us history

13:46

those people are dumb

well they are all pretty much the same (edited)

they are all just dummys for corporate lobbying anyways

13:47

thats the main job of a president

#RadMorning

I honestly prefer Trump to Biden

kinda

so they all serve the same purpose

both are bad but idk which one is correct

Michael

they are all just dummys for corporate lobbying anyways

exactly why I don't like them

13:47

or all of the parties

RaduTek

exactly why I don't like them

well its been that way since the beginning of time

cause they're working for the corporates, not the people

US society as a whole is fueled off corporate corruption

13:48

thats where the money is

I don't live in the USA, but I prefer Trump because he didn't support bombing Yugoslavia in 1999, unlike Biden

"freedumb"

I don't support Trump's stupid stuff like him banning LGBT from serving in the milltary

13:48

obviously

both have their bad sides

I hate the cult that has grown around Trump more than Trump himself (edited)

DeRosenberg

I don't support Trump's stupid stuff like him banning LGBT from serving in the milltary

ive never heard about that, did that actually happen or was it just some rumor?

13:48

well in reality thats a blessing anyways, nobody willingly enters the military

13:48

Michael

ive never heard about that, did that actually happen or was it just some rumor?

I heard about that

meanwhile the Serbian president is thinking of making a 90-day military training MANDATORY

13:49

for all males

i dont wanna fight and die for oil companies

USA investing billions in military equipment while they "don't have" money for free healthcare (edited)

me neither

Canada's Twitter account in response trolled them by saying that they are allowed to serve

RaduTek

USA investing billions in military equipment while they "don't have" money for free healthcare (edited)

from what ive heard from canadian people, free healthcare is not all that great anyways

13:50

u have to sit in line for hours just to get a doctor appointment

Canada is not perfect

no country is perfect

^

#RadMorning

no country is perfect

weaboos:

Michael

u have to sit in line for hours just to get a doctor appointment

better sit in line for free healthcare than sit at home and slowly die cause you're broke

b-but... japan!!!

big in japan?

I hear every American wants to go to Canada

13:51

Generalization? sure, but that's what I heard

DeRosenberg

I hear every American wants to go to Canada

a bunch of celebs said they were gonna move to south america if trump became president

13:51

they never did, and got endlessly trolled for it

wha the fuck

13:51

How's that gonna be any better

South America is the best /s

Michael

a bunch of celebs said they were gonna move to south america if trump became president

celebs be dumb speedrun

DeRosenberg

How's that gonna be any better

"because orange guy bad"

Brazil's current president is pro-trmp

13:51

afaik

RaduTek

celebs be dumb speedrun

yeah i dont get why celebs are popular

13:51

most of them are kind of idiots

Michael

"because orange guy bad"

No president is good

they have nothing going for them

I don't get why people simp for celebs

All did war crimes against humanity

Michael

yeah i dont get why celebs are popular

because people like putting their heads into other people's asses

RaduTek

I don't get why people simp for celebs

I wanna say this

RaduTek

I don't get why people simp for celebs

they're really just super privileged people that don't give a fuck about anyone else that grew up in fortune (edited)

Doesn't matter if they are popular and cool and all that stuff

and especially I don't get the people that have sexual fantasies with celebs

None of them are more important then you, your mental health, and what you're doing

because we as people like being interested in other people's lives

RaduTek

and especially I don't get the people that have sexual fantasies with celebs

most of them arent even attractive lol

13:53

ugly plastic surgery and overdone makeup

exactly

basically not even human anymore

90% plastic 10% shit human (edited)

I don't get how people call that beauty

13:53

beauty is nature

exactly

perfect windows 8 conversation

I hate the over-exaggerated "female" and "male" look

WinDVD

perfect windows 8 conversation

mhm lol

beauty is cat ears, a tail and whisker makeup

13:53

Today's songs are not my favourite

13:53

imo

Michael

beauty is cat ears, a tail and whisker makeup

bonus points for collar around the neck

WinDVD

perfect windows 8 conversation

me guilty? noooo

DeRosenberg

Today's songs are not my favourite

most of them have the same tune to them

Michael

ugly plastic surgery and overdone makeup

yeah

RaduTek

me guilty? noooo

this all started from the USB HDD I believe

from [cuplord]'s wifi connection actually

don't get how that plastic surgery or makeup is considered "beautiful"

DeRosenberg

Today's songs are not my favourite

fitting song for this convo

can we move to #deleted-channel

RaduTek

from [cuplord]'s wifi connection actually

oh yeah

RaduTek

can we move to #deleted-channel

*if needed

lol

13:55

the ISO is finished

13:55

Gonna copy it to my phone

DeRosenberg

Today's songs are not my favourite

Today as in artist or today as in time frame

yay

this is the same guy that made the anime p***y and mai waifu songs

RaduTek

Today as in artist or today as in time frame

time frame

RayZen

don't get how that plastic surgery or makeup is considered "beautiful"

especially makeup

noone wants to move channels because that ruins the mood of whatever conversation trol

DeRosenberg

time frame

yes I agree

Nothing against the artists in general

dont be hating on bones my guy

WinDVD

noone wants to move channels because that ruins the mood of whatever conversation trol

it takes one click!!!

last good period for pop songs is like 2019

RayZen

especially makeup

if you look ugly you will look ugly, changing the color of your lips, nails or some other shit won't do anything

#RadMorning

it takes one click!!!

when you move channels you move your mind too

and even then I moved on from pop

RayZen

if you look ugly you will look ugly, changing the color of your lips, nails or some other shit won't do anything

people telling me im ugly then taking off my glasses

lmfao ur hot

RaduTek

lmfao ur hot

i just can never find glasses that work for me because i have a giant face

13:57

99% of glasses are way too small

13:57

im probs gonna get contacts

13:57

those are the glasses i have rn

Michael

Click to see attachment 🖼️

yeah you are hot

Michael

those are the glasses i have rn

reminds me of some youtuber

btw I'm doing gyms so I can fit and such

Michael

people telling me im ugly then taking off my glasses

lmao

13:58

dumbasses

but you do look good in those glasses

13:58

boys with long hair are cute

Michael

people telling me im ugly then taking off my glasses

They aren't worth your time

I don't have long hair cause idfk how to manage it

i'm a bit lucky since i don't need to wear glasses as mine are in a better condition that i don't have to wear them all the time to see anything

RaduTek

I don't have long hair cause idfk how to manage it

just a good shampoo and shower every day

13:58

same goes for ur body, use an actual soap instead of 5 in 1 body wash crap

RayZen

i'm a bit lucky since i don't need to wear glasses as mine are in a better condition that i don't have to wear them all the time to see anything

Same

that stuff is just chemical goop

I probably should get glasses because I have some eyesight issues

13:59

such as a lazy eye

i mostly use suave shampoo, seems to work best for my hair

RaduTek

boys with long hair are cute

but man is it annoying when you just get it

but I don't think my hair would even work being longer

i hate how my hair touches my eyebrows it's so annoying for me

back when i used 1000 in 1 body wash & motor oil my hair was awful

13:59

it was so greasy and gross

RaduTek

but I don't think my hair would even work being longer

same

then i started using real shampoo and it was light and day

Michael

back when i used 1000 in 1 body wash & motor oil my hair was awful

idk I've always used a separate shampoo for hair

RaduTek

idk I've always used a separate shampoo for hair

same

i can't wear glasses because they would threaten my 20/20 (or 6/6) right eye. left eye is 20/45 or 6/13

So I'm probably gonna use Ventoy

im near sided & far sided with astigmatism in both eyes

14:00

absolute horrible vision

DeRosenberg

So I'm probably gonna use Ventoy

I think it works with Windows ISOs

without glasses its all just a blur

my eyesight is almost perfect

RayZen

my eyesight is almost perfect

same, except my left eye is a lazy eye

I also have some astigmatism, but it's not that bad I can still see without glasses, but I have to squint at things

RayZen

my eyesight is almost perfect

but it can still be blurry depending on stuff

I wear glasses too

RaduTek

I also have some astigmatism, but it's not that bad I can still see without glasses, but I have to squint at things

i can see somewhat decent if i squint but its a struggle

I can see very well still, but it does get blurry

if i just look around i can see everything just fine, but if i for example begin to read a book with a lot of words it can become a bit blurry

RayZen

if i just look around i can see everything just fine, but if i for example begin to read a book with a lot of words it can become a bit blurry

don't have issues with that

RayZen

if i just look around i can see everything just fine, but if i for example begin to read a book with a lot of words it can become a bit blurry

and i can see a screen just fine too

14:02

but for words it's a bit weird

RayZen

if i just look around i can see everything just fine, but if i for example begin to read a book with a lot of words it can become a bit blurry

same for me

the lazy eye thing has never irritated me much

14:02

but when it completely takes over me

14:02

I look like a derp

would be cool if my hair would be longer tho ngl (edited)

I currently have short brown hair

im gonna grow my hair out real long probably

but I'm planning to dye my hair so I become blonde

my dad had hair down to his waist lol

14:04

I tried copying it but it can't

#RadMorning

I currently have short brown hair

same

@win32 did u see my message in general

it's less messy than it was before (edited)

DeRosenberg

I tried copying it but it can't

try unplugging and plugging in the stick again

didn't work

don't copy to C: then

14:05

copy to Documents

done

14:06

cutting it

at first I didn't even notice you were copying to C:

yeas

this is why terry davis said file permissions shouldnt exist in a consumer product, and linux is dumb

also, if I were you, I wouldn't have cut the files

14:06

because in the case of the drive suddenly disconnecting

14:06

bad stuff happens

14:07

I would have copied and then deleted the files off of the USB

it didn't disconnect

14:12

so that's good

lovely

@ImSwordQueen

truly lovely

14:26

windows iso be like (edited)

Opening Ventoy

14:51

stuck at 98%

14:51

wait

14:55

done

copying the iso

an attempt

probably remove the service pack 1 tag

yeah that winver was a trial and error to get it to not be "Microsoft Microsoft Pre-release Windows Operating System"

15:13

yeah was gonna do that

also replace segoe with tahoma trol

nah, arial

or whatever the font pre milestone 2 used

15:14

me forgor

haven't touched the theme itself so haven't bothered to center basic and ribbon stuff yet

brb updating unredpilled 9200

there we go

15:17

win8to7875 trol

/s (edited)

send it in betawiki trol

well unpilled 7875-7899 because doubt that start screen is possible to replicate on 9200 (edited)

the white one?

15:19

yeah that's mostly a nope on 9200

unless some sort of recreation program is made

fuckers hardcoded the start screen backgrounds somewhere

15:20

still better than 9600 troll

at least the start screen bgs can be modified in 8.0

15:22

so the fish bg is sorta possible

Scamdisk

there we go

I'd unironically install that.

meh this could be an addon for the 7tp

Just add the title bar glow 'bug' and it's

that requires grilling udwm

15:25

and aero glass

I was told that it's an atlas bug, rather than a uDWM one

had to roast shell32.dll.mui so "Microsoft" doesn't show up twice in the first string in winver

So in theory that could be replicated by messing with theme. Although when I moved the 8032 msstyles to 8045, the bug didn't transfer over

15:27

8032 is the last one with that, btw

8032 didn't have the bug?

It did

15:28

guess 7985 was a weird odd out build then

Yeah, 7985 is.. interesting

or rather that branch fixed the bug so the public doesn't see it

Fair. good thing 7985 symbols got leaked too

after all, a later compile of the same build was used at d9

If it turns out to be udwm anyway

mfw when a kernel branch fixed a visual bug

15:32

That other branches didn't adopt till mid 80xx

I guess it was like Longhorn 4050, newest code to show off, which was probably also developed separately (edited)

restarting

Scamdisk

at least the start screen bgs can be modified in 8.0

they can be modified but not entirely

15:37

because microsoft hardcoded how the bgs are displayed

ofc they did

I'm in the setup

did you back up your data back to the USB stick?

Da

15:49

It's on my phone

Scamdisk

an attempt

nice no blur

15:58

also why are you using a beta version of winodws 8?

Look at the build tag

Installed

build 9200 win 8

and at the date and time in that tag especially

2011

16:05

oh it says 2020 (edited)

16:05

how did you achieve the user icon on the taskbar though?

16:05

can you upload that build somewhere? because i wanna try it out

It's a third party program that replicates it

does it work on 7?

Yes

gib

https://www.deviantart.com/angelwzr/art/Taskbar-UserTile-203811134

16:07

https://www.softpedia.com/get/System/OS-Enhancements/Taskbar-UserTile.shtml

Download Taskbar UserTile 7.1 Alpha

Download Taskbar UserTile - Enjoy a Windows 8 feature onto your computer and be more close to the actual experience of owning this OS on lower versions of the system

16:07

If you don't want to log into dA (edited)

thx

16:08

although how do they achieve that

16:08

i'm really confused

programming skill

i wonder if it works on vista troll

it does, just slightly fucked

lmaoo

16:09

17:05

who tf would want that

17:05

need to look at your pfp? open the start menu

Or use SAB

17:06

It seemnly works on that

I have a problem with the networks section on win8

17:12

It keep saying it's connecting but it's taking a long time

17:15

It keeps saying it's connecting

17:15

I might use the phone internet

17:15

Tehtering

Deformisani SAS

Click to see attachment 🖼️

moment

why are icons in shell32 stupid

09:45

holy shit

09:49

this only happens using the mui method to patch them

09:49

because for some reason it follows the singular icons instead of the icon group

09:49

and resource hacker fucks it up

man i have a problem with 8.0 on my laptop

20:38

it won't connect to any wifi networks anymore (edited)

20:38

it just crashes

wifi drivers be sane challenge

@#RadMorning

20:41

the only thing I would change is the background

eh this is 8.0

20:42

so no desktop background as start screen background

I would probably put one of the simpler backgrounds

20:42

or a solid color one

20:43

really colorful

I couldn't see myself having that many shortcuts

20:45

mostly cause I know I'd only use 1/5

20:45

and I'd get mad cause I have many unused icons

20:45

had same issue with start menu on Windows 10

20:45

I wanted to have it more complete, but I didn't need anything than what I already had (edited)

20:46

same issue with 11 and with my phone

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/834207708646342686/964935581811499028/unknown.png?width=1202&height=676 my April 8.0 Start screen

20:46

I prefer the smaller tiles because it doesn't make the screen scrollable

do you use the vertical scroll to also scroll sideways on the Start page (edited)

the 8.0 setup i have right now is meant to have an experience with the start screen

RaduTek

do you use the vertical scroll to also scroll sideways on the Start page (edited)

yeah

20:47

if you're referring to the scroll wheel

ye

i tested this with rdp and an ipad

20:47

and it looked neat

I once had Windows 8.1 installed in a VM on my Surface Go and the start screen was nice

I would love to use Win8 on a tablet

but I wouldn't use it at all on a desktop or main laptop

though I use 100% all desktop apps

20:48

except PC settings

honestly through all the few times I used Windows 8 I didn't even touch PC settings

the only thing the PC settings can do well in terms of why I use it is to control Bluetooth stuff

20:50

to be precise - Bluetooth headphones

20:50

though Windows 10 does that even better as it allows you to connect your headphones to your PC as soon as you turn them on

20:50

in Win8, I have to go and toggle BT off and then on to make them work

20:50

20:51

because they didn't implement a Connect button

20:51

grrrrr

#RadMorning

the only thing the PC settings can do well in terms of why I use it is to control Bluetooth stuff

can't you also do that from devices & printers?

RaduTek

can't you also do that from devices & printers?

yeah, but it's easier to just toggle BT for my headphones to work

20:52

not having to remove my device and then pair it again

20:52

I used to do it from Devices and Printers

20:52

but I found out the trick in PC settings

20:52

and my life has been easier since

20:54

https://www.windowslatest.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Windows-11-Bluetooth.jpg though Windows 11 has made BT better

20:54

aka it's easier to access the options

20:54

you don't even have to go into Settings

but this wasn't available since release

21:18

it's only on insider rn

21:18

also idk what they fucked up in the newer insider beta builds

before you type that out

21:18

#windows-10-11

well you started it :P

only shortly

windows 7's explorer.exe for ex7forw8 (windows 8 only)

explorer.exe

3.08 MB

00:07

now no more downloading a windows 7 ISO (edited)

has anyone tried to see what build of 8.1 broke ex7forw8?

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

this os was so beautiful, idk why they thought 10 was a better design

03:23

8.1 metro + aero glass w/ the release preview theme is

03:23

might install 8.1 on my ryzen pc tomorrow (edited)

03:24

do u have an archive of metro apps that i can install on 8.1?

03:24

since i see u have a bunch of them there

Michael

this os was so beautiful, idk why they thought 10 was a better design

10 has a better design at desktop

09:02

the caption buttons of Windows 8 never looked good to me

RaduTek

10 has a better design at desktop

i think 8.1 w/ aeroglass is best

09:02

and the preview theme

09:02

i use the 8.1 taskbar theme on 10 with sib++

well that's customized

09:02

I'm talking about the official untouched product (edited)

RaduTek

well that's customized

ye they should have just kept the preview theme w/ aero for desktop

09:02

it was so much better

yeah would have matched the Aero icons (edited)

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

has anyone tried to see what build of 8.1 broke ex7forw8?

9271 is the earliest

jesus fuck that's early

ImSwordQueen

9271 is the earliest

damn

09:58

th2 moment

you WHAT?

11:06

how

got a spanish coreconnectedsinglelanguage image

11:06

yeah professionalstudent is an upgrade target to that

11:07

then en-US'd it as much as possible

can you tell me how exactly the process goes or is it ultra secret

install spanish coreconnectedsinglelanguage image

11:15

open cmd in administrator

11:15

use dism

upgrade it to professionalstudent

11:16

but you need it syspreped to do so

hold up hold up

11:16

do what with dism

11:16

upgrade it?

might as well release a iso of this

11:24

even tho it's just my best attempt to despanish it

Scamdisk

even tho it's just my best attempt to despanish it

i expected the spanish inquisition troll

11:39

i always do trol

finally it fucking works now

what exactly am i looking at

up arrow and properties icon

13:44

shell32 is a bitch on 8.1

i see

mui icon replacements would break existing icons

13:45

even if you use the right id for the icon group

13:46

@E2

13:49

and here i have

13:49

the first symbolless left aligned uDWM

13:49

on an inlined build

13:49

it's pretty universal

13:49

i byte patched just like i did in my 9200 uDWM

Good

then i'll try to figure out how to patch symbolless GetLeftOffset builds

13:51

actually that should be easy

13:51

here's my 8176 uDWM even though this is a pretty weird build

uDWM.dll

688.5 KB

So, the process is identical to RTM. mind sending that uDWM? I need to recall some stuff about the inlined function- (edited)

13:51

Thanks

i really forgot how to patch the thing in ida

13:51

our comments in the chat weren't really that clear outside of the time

so patching the centered titlebar is basically universal thru 7779 to 9200?

Ofc. there was almost nothing left of my knowledge

no

ImSwordQueen

so patching the centered titlebar is basically universal thru 7779 to 9200?

No, 8102 or earlier, it's GetLeftOffset

earlier builds used a more familiar

13:53

method

13:53

yeah

13:53

getleftoffset was present in earlier builds

oh

then ditched for an inlined variant

Weirdly

for god knows what reason

basically the same shit as 9600

and then getleftoffset returned

why do i think they wanted to scrap the centered titlebar in 9600

13:53

but didn't

so yes you can bytepatch inlined builds the same way you do 9200

ImSwordQueen

basically the same shit as 9600

Yeah, you can straight up locate the beginning of the function and use valinet's bytes

ImSwordQueen

why do i think they wanted to scrap the centered titlebar in 9600

nah

imagine patched caption buttons sizes (edited)

13:54

a dream

that's a tricky one

13:54

i don't recall ever finding any trace of that stuff on uDWM

13:54

but i seriously doubt it's anywhere else (edited)

i don't think it's in dwm directly

13:55

or dwmapi

it's not in the theme

13:55

or atleast i don't think so

that's for sure

Would be cool. If I pinpoint what changes the sizes between 9909 and 9913, hopefully that might narrow things down

maybe themetool will reveal something else

13:55

but i doubt it

13:55

but yeah

i mean

13:55

people thought animations were handled by dwm (edited)

seeing how 9909's uDWM on 9926 brings back 8.1 sized captions

so maybe?

and the actual captions itself

probably it would be easier to see what changed in 9926 against 9909 but without symbols would be pretty difficult

13:56

almost impossible

ImSwordQueen

people thought animations were handled by dwm (edited)

9926 is the only one with symbols right

13:57

fuck

13:57

wrong reply

ImSwordQueen

people thought animations were handled by dwm (edited)

They are, but msstyles sets the way they render maybe

actually

Vruh 2

9926 is the only one with symbols right

Yes

9926 has symbols - 9888 also has symbols?

13:57

no

13:57

9888 doesn't

13:57

9879 does however

But it's good for tracking down functions in 99xx too (edited)

windows 10 betas becoming useful????

Vruh 2

9888 doesn't

Unfortunately no, it's also the first build that introduces maximize/restore animations, which would've been lovely in 9879

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Unless you do a Rectify11 and replace ALL of the icons

ImSwordQueen

windows 10 betas becoming useful????

Yeah, some research and we'll have ways to make 8.1 better.

13:59

Aesthetically, I mean

no start menu sadly

13:59

unless you can somehow port the shit over

It's rooted way too deep in the system, to my knowledge

yeah it is

At least in Vista/7 most of it was in the shell

14:00

Which is what made ex7for8 possible

then 9271 happened

14:00

and probably earlier as well

here's the N variant as well

I have a problem with my WiFi adapter

17:49

Doesn't work

try win7 driver

oofer_dww

try win7 driver

I'll see

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Funny how this all really happened because of The Window Colour Ensemble

like, the DLL Win8To7 uses is literally a piece of The Window Colour Ensemble edited to be 7's palette and images/names.

Tried searching it but I couldn't

L

barisberat

windows 7's explorer.exe for ex7forw8 (windows 8 only)

a pin would be ideal

#RadMorning pinned a message to this channel. 29/07/2022 12:06

why does that exist

there's a bing/connected variant of every core variant (edited)

15:55

so stuff like 8.1 China with Bing and 8.1 N with Bing exist

Only with microsoft products troll

these seem to be the free for OEMs editions

15:56

because the regular 8.1 with bing did ship with cheapo laptops

15:56

and this too

15:57

can't find any trace of the chinese one

15:57

and the N variant can be only gotten by

‍

Scamdisk

can't find any trace of the chinese one

"So I booked a flight to china"

Scamdisk

can't find any trace of the chinese one

that isn't 3 th2 builds or th2 rtm repair packages (edited)

yeah

14:35

but that centered title got me fiending to get your face smashed into the pavement

Vruh 2

but that centered title got me fiending to get your face smashed into the pavement

Patch x86 binaries then

why

14:36

are you in x86

Yes

provide a statement containing the reasons as to why are you running x86 windows 8.x

Because i need to check if 8to7 doesn't break on x86

and why do you need to do tha

14:37

t

Because yes?

oh

14:38

nevermind

14:38

ok

14:38

that's a good reason

14:38

eh i'm not valinet

️

14:38

@RaduTek can i get trusted and smart back

are you really trusted anymore tho

shut the fuck up skip

14:40

go to hell

malding

blocked

k

i'm tired of reading your bullshit

discord users telling the entire server they blocked someone to feed their superiority complex

skip

are you really trusted anymore tho

what did i lose again

imsword hates me cause i got his troll alt banned on the xp server

14:44

literally

14:44

thats the entire reason

fuck the xp server anyways

14:45

bitchass place

exactly

14:45

i dont see why its such a big deal

i only go there to periodically check development 2

14:45

and #photography-art

14:45

for the funny

lmao

are you gay?

no

14:46

im not

Anyway, I only like trolling the dumb users who think Adobe CC == MS Plus.

lmfao

win32

are you gay?

why are you asking vruh if he is gay

no way win32 reads the xp server

no way he has the bd plugin which completely hides blocked users messages

14:48

couldnt give less of a shit honestly

ImSwordQueen

i'm tired of reading your bullshit

and some other people are tired of you being butthurt so you shut up

Please don't let these interpersonal conflicts spill into WLS!!

#RadMorning

and some other people are tired of you being butthurt so you shut up

if i was so butthurt i was going to remove every pinned message i made

14:53

which is basically more than 30% of the whole windows 8 pinned messages

win32

Please don't let these interpersonal conflicts spill into WLS!!

i told him to take it up with me privately but hes too scared to enter my dms apparently

then do it if you want, remove them

he likes complaining about it here instead

14:54

WAIT

14:54

betajyst is online

i'm not going to

14:54

and if someone removes them

14:55

they are the butthurt in the situation

im not gonna touch your pins

me neither

I would kick anyone if pins are removed, because this would conflict with the mission of WLS.

literally i have no personal gain to remove them

yeah

ImSwordQueen

@RaduTek can i get trusted and smart back

depends if more staff agree to it

im sure they wouldnt be ok with giving him trusted role back since he literally gave me mod lol

RaduTek

depends if more staff agree to it

I'm not staff but for now I would say no

skip

im sure they wouldnt be ok with giving him trusted role back since he literally gave me mod lol

how can you trust someone like that

14:56

giving random idiots mod

#RadMorning

I'm not staff but for now I would say no

yes, for the time my opinion is no

14:57

he can ask mods to manage pins for him (edited)

RaduTek

depends if more staff agree to it

did i ever leak something?

14:57

i abused mod yes

14:57

i agree i don't deserve it

14:57

neither with advisor

14:57

i only asked for smart and trusted

ImSwordQueen

did i ever leak something?

no I mean I don't want to take decisions just on my own

which to be fair

14:57

trusted is dead

14:58

the last message was sent 1/2 months ago

yes

so it doesn't change anything

14:58

the only thing i did was to give skip mod

14:58

because he clearly thinks he is better than anyone

i didnt say that

go to DMs

i dont want to even dm him about it

14:58

its his choice to be mad against me

no i don't want to unblock them (edited)

mf hit with that they them shit (edited)

literally the damage has been done

14:59

so talking with them is going to be useful like shitting in a park

you two calm down

RaduTek

you two calm down

maybe mute sword

solve your personal beef in private (edited)

15:00

idk I don't like to take sides

this shouldn't escalate

15:00

that's why I suggest that

im not gonna bother arguing with him

well if you start beefing again I will mute you both

good idea

let it be your warning

i didnt argue with him tho?

RaduTek

well if you start beefing again I will mute you both

i blocked them so i don't have any incentive to start beef with them anymore (edited)

again stop talking about this

fine

we're even in the wrong channel

talking about #windows-8 related

15:03

8to7 3.2 coming soon

15:03

probably today

15:03

i don't fucking know anymore

I should install Windows 8.1 on a laptop to mess with it

15:03

Windows 8.1 on TC1100?

nah

15:04

would be too slow

15:04

and no drivers

RaduTek

Windows 8.1 on TC1100?

does it even have 7 drivers?

The Science Elf showed it ran somewhat acceptably

ImSwordQueen

does it even have 7 drivers?

not really, mostly vista drivers and modded drivers

aeroglass is going to totally ruin everything

though, TSE didn't mention any drivers

for video you need a modded driver that fixes resume from sleep

ImSwordQueen

aeroglass is going to totally ruin everything

the drivers don't support Aero

actually

15:05

i wonder if 8.1 glass8 supports software dwm

15:05

8.0 doesn't

it would probably run at like -1 FPS

earlier today I uninstalled my graphics driver

15:06

and glass8 ran okay

like people shit on Atom CPUs, but they're way better than Pentium Ms

15:06

especially when the Pentium M is clocked at 1.1 GHz

using 8.1 btw (edited)

RaduTek

like people shit on Atom CPUs, but they're way better than Pentium Ms

say that to the phone variant of the intel atom :trol: (edited)

funny that the TC1100 is more compatible with Windows 8 than most netbooks

15:07

just because of the screen resolution

15:07

8/8.1 BSoDs if the screen can't do 1024x768

15:07

so stupid

15:07

Windows 10 doesn't have this limitation

netbooks have screen res lower than 1024x768??

it's 1024x600

damn

I would really want a netbook with like a low end Core 2 Duo

15:08

a 1280x800 screen

get a macbook

15:08

the polycarbonate ones

but those are like 13"

15:08

I want a 10" machine like that

15:09

cause 1280x800 at 13" is a bit rough

is literally no one gonna notice that betajyst is online

still for XP or 7 it would work

skip

is literally no one gonna notice that betajyst is online

didnt they like take a break from discord

skip

is literally no one gonna notice that betajyst is online

i noticed

ImSwordQueen

the polycarbonate ones

but I can't find a black one for cheap

skip

didnt they like take a break from discord

they left the server when they said that

15:10

then rejoined idk when

o

i'm not going to say anything

15:10

just check the mod room @RaduTek

15:10

you have to scroll a little bit i believe

what

or I can look in the welcome

no i mean

15:12

we had a discussion in mod room

15:12

just look in there @RaduTek

Did you check? @RaduTek

WHAT THE FUCK betajyst online

i hacked his acc

Deformisani SAS

i hacked his acc

ImSwordQueen

i wonder if 8.1 glass8 supports software dwm

it does

updated the forum post about 8to7 https://forum.eclectic4un.me/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=107

Windows 7 transformation pack for 8.x

The complete Windows 8 and 8.1 to Windows 7 Transformation Pack is finally here! Download here: This transformation pack contains an easy-to-use installer to tr

ImSwordQueen

updated the forum post about 8to7 https://forum.eclectic4un.me/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=107

Awesome

Small question: Can I use Windows Update when my Windows is activated?

15:05

I just don't wanna break Windows

DeRosenberg

I have a problem with my WiFi adapter

Because I think me updating it would fix the issue I have

15:11

Or I might reinstall Windows

yeah you can update

Oh okay

DeRosenberg

Small question: Can I use Windows Update when my Windows is activated?

yes

8250 had the branding in anytime upgrade. i wonder why they removed it

I'm using minitool

20:47

Should I select selected by Windows Update or select all?

How do I fix this can't connect to network error btw?

22:01

restart router

22:03

if you're lucky and it resets in the way needed

22:03

it'll work

From the PC? Or from the router?

22:06

Sorry I'm stupid it's my first time knowing it

22:07

Reset

22:07

Hmm

router

22:07

turn it off and on

22:08

windows does this shit sometimes but i usually dont have to deal with it since i just use ethernet

Did it

22:11

Still checking network requirements

22:11

Connecting to the network is taking longer than usual

22:13

Didn't work

22:13

Fuck

are you using an external network adapter

External?

22:21

I use a WIFI adapter

22:22

No

22:28

Should I reinstall Windows?

have you tried reinstalling the driver for the Wi-Fi adapter?

Yes

22:31

Using the CD that I have for the Adapter

22:31

Didn't worj

22:31

Work

what brand what model

Realtek

22:36

?

hold up checking it

22:40

material.7z

2.44 MB

22:40

try these

22:40

also check if you can connect from another device

Hold on

22:46

I'm on PC

22:46

Using internet with a phone

22:47

Restarting because my wifi keeps saying connecting

22:47

hold on

22:50

Checking Network requirements

22:50

Goddamn

22:52

Didn't work

22:53

I might reinstall Windows 8

Reinstalling

23:22

What's the difference between Windows 8 Pro and Windows 8 Pro Media Center

23:22

I'll pick the normal version

media center comes with media center

23:22

i guess

DeRosenberg

Reinstalling

23:36

gave up fast

¯\(ツ)\/¯

Checking network requirements again

00:00

Taking too long

00:00

Ugh

00:07

No

did you try the win7 driver

00:08

in the 7z

Yes

00:17

Didn't work

Good news, I connected it using a RealTek utility

pog

gonghorn

Vista gaming

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HDN4RgG4Jg4jyGKC9uLMQ4d3iqpYAsHF/view?usp=sharing

Windows 8.1 Single Language with Bing 64bit en-US.iso

09:11

have this i guess

skip

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Lq78qlS0eJ11OunepEmSj0tngtrD0ml2/view?usp=sharing (edited)

there is only updates that are preinstalled on this iso right?

yer

huh. microsoft wanted to put the charms bar on the left too (edited)

wait how did you find that

and use mac os's style caption buttons troll

(edited)

ImSwordQueen

huh. microsoft wanted to put the charms bar on the left too (edited)

this could also just be the stupid window selector thing they did

The time charm thing is flipped too

nah it's just a flipped version of the right charms bar image

Yeah, considering the caption buttons being on left, lol

ImSwordQueen

huh. microsoft wanted to put the charms bar on the left too (edited)

that's probably for RTL languages, such as Hebrew or Arabic

1

07:54

Oh the caption buttons are reversed as well

gah damn

ImSwordQueen

huh. microsoft wanted to put the charms bar on the left too (edited)

They did put it on the left, though.

09:57

insert RTL Charm Bar

ImSwordQueen

huh. microsoft wanted to put the charms bar on the left too (edited)

damn I hate that now RH scales images to fit the window

ImSwordQueen

huh. microsoft wanted to put the charms bar on the left too (edited)

i think its for right to left reading versions

13:27

like arab windows

13:27

in those the entire ui is flipped

13:27

even the taskbar, start is on the right side

Yeah

Already said that

I forgot about rtl

o

watermark meanwhile defies all of that

15:11

ofc because the thing handling the wallpaper and such doesnt seem to flip

how do y'all install 8.x from the ISO in a VM without the product key

16:30

I don't want to mod the ISO to add ei.cfg

16:31

and I tried to add the ei.cfg to the X:\Sources from the command prompt and it didn't work

It usually lets you skip that

16:31

You can enter a GVLK key, it won't activate anyway

i have one of those keys. works all the time (edited)

16:32

one moment

They are public, and perfectly legal

16:32

https://docs.microsoft.com/ru-ru/windows-server/get-started/kms-client-activation-keys

Активация клиента службы управления ключами (KMS) и ключи продуктов...

Получите ключи продуктов, требуемые для установки и активации Windows Server и других продуктов Windows с сервера узла KMS.

16:33

Whoops

16:33

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/get-started/kms-client-activation-keys

Key Management Services (KMS) client activation and product keys fo...

Get the product keys needed for setup and activation of Windows Server and other Windows products from a KMS host server.

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#RadMorning pinned a message to this channel. 09/08/2022 16:33

this is what i have at hand and it works fine

E2

It usually lets you skip that

nope

the Windows 10 setup does let you skip that, but not 8.x iirc (edited)

i dont know if it will work on 8.0 however. i didnt try that

E2

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/get-started/kms-client-activation-keys

already tried that maybe I typed it wrong, let me try again

i love breaking 8.0

RaduTek

already tried that maybe I typed it wrong, let me try again

Make sure the edition respective to the key is present, btw

oh wait I was using the 8.0 key

16:34

and I have 8.1

i wonder what makes themecpl kill explorer entirely

16:35

i don't understand

now it works

Nice

great

the fuck is this bullshit

Create a new account

16:40

go local

16:40

or create a new acc will fail

it failed lol

and it will give you the option to create a local account

16:40

yeah figured

16:40

it sometimes works

16:40

sometimes it doesn't

so fucking slow

16:48

curious that it already has video drivers

ok fuck modding themecpl and themeui

18:03

getting it to recognize more themes is impossible

this is weird

20:44

also wow Xbox Music is what became Groove Music on Windows 10

20:45

app looks so similar

20:45

also it can't index the shared folder

20:49

also wow Windows 8.1 runs so well in a VM

20:49

it's the snappier than XP, Vista and 7

20:54

library shared from the host OS

20:54

with WMP's media sharing feature

20:54

cause Windows 8's WMP doesn't want to index the shared folder

RaduTek

it's the snappier than XP, Vista and 7

that's what using DWM does to an mf

01:31

Windows with DWM immediately makes it way snappier than without

01:32

source: Some Bakageddon tests on Win7

lol no

01:51

using windows 7 with vs without dwm is another thing

01:51

dragging windows feels unreal

01:51

on real hardware

01:52

that being said, the only reason why dwm doesn't tear is because it has forced vsync

01:57

no

01:57

dwm syncs with the monitor refresh

01:57

well

01:57

unless you mean like freesync or some variable refresh bullshit

01:57

then i don't know

01:58

but it should work on higher refresh rates

01:58

or lower

01:58

idk

01:59

well

01:59

then

Vruh 2

using windows 7 with vs without dwm is another thing

dwm is king bro

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

iirc it worked for me

05:08

i remember using my viewsonic 1280x1024 monitor at 85 hz alongside my main 1080p and it worked without any problem

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

my laptop is 144hz and i hooked it up to a 60hz monitor

07:09

considering win10 uses dwm and it works just fine

07:09

i am not sure about your statement

Well that is Windows 10

07:54

What about Windows 7?

why would i install 7 on there

does something like MAS exist for Windows 8.x?

16:32

10q

16:33

oh wait forgot to run as admin

‍♂️

16:33

https://github.com/wenzylking/Windows-8.1-Activator/blob/main/Activator

Windows-8.1-Activator/Activator at main · wenzylking/Windows-8.1-Ac...

Activate your Windows 8.1 for free. 100% safe and working. - Windows-8.1-Activator/Activator at main · wenzylking/Windows-8.1-Activator

16:34

a script from msguides.com

it's just a glorified slgmr command (edited)

yes

16:34

but I didn't want to bother to find the right key for msguides KMS

you reminded me

16:34

to check if there is any 8.x volume mak key

16:35

nope there aren't any

Use slmgr commands with one of the keys from this

product-1.ini

2.77 KB

RaduTek

does something like MAS exist for Windows 8.x?

you can technically activate 8.x using the Onlike KMS option in MAS

17:44

if you want it to be permanent, enable the renewal task

Neat

2012 - 2022 https://glass8.eu/ The domain was parked.

02:03

aero glass is dead?

02:05

:(

02:06

why?

02:09

It's on internet archive

02:25

It's pinned in this channel

it has been dead for a few years now, but only this year did the site die (edited)

05:03

the 8.x ones may as well become abandonware in 2023-2024

Basically already is, just not legally yet

05:52

Still useful af

doubt you can even get it activated legally anymore

05:54

You know, with the site dead and all

I really wish that Devs who decide to not support their product would just release a last version that's unlocked

08:24

Would help both your current customers and what could've been your next customers

nice

RaduTek

I really wish that Devs who decide to not support their product would just release a last version that's unlocked

I mean, for all we know... something could have happened.

14:54

and that's why it's no longer supported, if that's the case. tbf, if that very unlikely is the case, they literally can't do ANYTHING since about the current Glass8 situation for fairly obvious reasons et al. (edited)

14:58

I'm hoping that's not the case, but so far all the puzzle pieces we have give off the impression that could have occurred. (edited)

14:59

If that did happen... that'd honestly be sad if so. Too bad the only way we'll truly know what happened is if them, or a family member or friend of theirs, says what happened to Glass8. (edited)

Scamdisk

doubt you can even get it activated legally anymore

Yeah. I actually wanted to pay for a donation key, but those keys aren't provided anymore. I use it cracked

15:09

Regardless it's still invaluable for 8.x

docR

Yeah. I actually wanted to pay for a donation key, but those keys aren't provided anymore. I use it cracked

you got a permanent 8.1 install on hand?

15:14

'cos I do have room for another key generation

15:15

and thing is, with some HOSTS trickery, the server still technically works

Hm?

15:16

And yes 8.1 is the main os on the t520 I'm gifting my gf

i just need that funni machine code it asks you about copying every now and then (edited)

Well my glass8 is cracked

15:16

It doesn't show that

15:16

But I know what you're talking about

I do have a problem though... And I'm sure it's a driver thing and not glass8

15:25

The HD 3000 driver won't display Aero translucency until the laptop's been connected to AC power. Then it'll work, even unplugged. But if needs that every cold boot. I endured the Intel driver isn't employing isn't power saving tricks

15:26

It has Optimus with nvs 4200m. I booted just the dgpu and it doesn't happen there

That's intentional on glass8's part

Tried a few hd 3000 drivers

15:26

Nope I disabled that in registry

15:26

I know what you're talking about, though

15:27

As I said this is isolated to Intel HD

15:27

DisableGlassOnBattery - - 0

ik it can happen on nvidia too, but then again, 320m

4200m

15:28

It's basically hd 3000 performance, but not as handicapped

15:28

Better opengl and directx support

15:28

I wonder what the problem is, though

inb4 a bug

probably something in the battery settings?

I know it's not glass8, I have that properly setup

15:29

Tried high performance, same bug

weird

And I know the disable glass on battery is disabled. Because when I unplug it, the glass still works

15:29

It's only every cold boot

might it be that aeroglass doesn't load?

15:29

for some reason

15:30

or does the custom atlas still appear?

And it does not happen if I boot just the nvs graphics with no Intel

15:30

Atlas appears

15:30

It's just transparency

weird

docR

And it does not happen if I boot just the nvs graphics with no Intel

Just to reinforce this

15:30

I checked the Intel settings very thoroughly too

15:30

All power saving stuff is off

15:36

It's not that big of a deal. Still sus, though

nothing in the amd settings panel?

AMD?

15:37

It's Nvidia lol

oh nvm

And no

i thought hd 3000 was an amd card

15:37

and not intel

15:37

my bad

No that's second gen Intel

15:37

Sandy Bridge

yeye

15:37

so nothing in the intel panel. hm weird

i7 2620m. It'll be a 2720qm quad core in a few days

15:38

Ivy failed

, I'd need a hardware flasher

what os would the thinkpad run?

15:38

only 8.1?

ImSwordQueen

so nothing in the intel panel. hm weird

There were, but I disabled it all

15:38

8.1 and revi21h2 (10)

15:38

Second is a compatibility fallback

so no vista? troll

Not at this time

15:39

I main Vista on my e6530, but I thought 8.1 would better suit my gf

15:39

(for now)

ye

I'll get it out and show you

hd 3000

15:40

uh

you probably showed me before in dms

i only ever had a hd 4000

8.1 is set as default right?

Yes

15:42

This happened before dualbooting

my setup it's this

my setup is

windows 7

15:44

2tb/4tb data hdds

15:45

and not a single other thing

Wait I'll show the 10 install now

15:45

15:47

Hehe

15:47

It's just a compatibility fallback, though. Very little software but essentials there

15:48

15:49

It does perform nicely, though. Revi strips away the bullshit

chromium is ungoogled right?

Uses about the same resources as 8.1

15:49

No

oh

Chromium.woolyss.com

15:50

They're almost Chrome, but no telemetry unless signed in. Above all, no background updating service

15:50

Has widevine and sync support though

wait vista support?

You don't need an extension to install extensions feelscringeman

nvm

Not officially

obviously with the extended kernel

With the kernel, well yeah

Yea

15:51

The way this is setup though

wait

15:52

why using revi instead of ltsc 2022?

8.1 and 10 are both setup optimally, with all drivers and such. But 10 is mostly bare. 8.1 has all the, shall we way fun software. 10 was setup under the impression it'll be booted infrequently, and any software added is shit that won't work on 8.1. Open something there, then get the heck out

or 2021

Is that a wise setup?

ImSwordQueen

why using revi instead of ltsc 2022?

I like how Revi21h2 is configured

oh alright

I'd have to do a lie of work I'm not willing to do to get it in that state

15:53

Shy of being Windows 10, it's perfect

docR

Is that a wise setup?

But back to this

docR

Is that a wise setup?

?

15:54

what setup

The way I've dualbooted

oh yeah

How 10 is setup more bare than 8

yeah makes sense compability wise

It makes sense 8 is more setup, 10 is more empty just to run things 8 won't?

15:55

8 is for daily usage (when it still viable) and 10 for everything that does not support 8

The 7 theme still uses the white toolbars btw

15:56

Small detail, his pointing it out

sadly pinky is gone

ImSwordQueen

8 is for daily usage (when it still viable) and 10 for everything that does not support 8

Yep that's how I've done it

and i'm not good at editing themes

It's fine. It's a beautiful theme

literally took me time to figure out what went wrong on the titlebars on clevine

And well, so long as an os has an actively updated browser, it's viable for me

they look better now

docR

And well, so long as an os has an actively updated browser, it's viable for me

yeah

But when you get the male poon browser treatment

ImSwordQueen

they look better now

Very pretty

that isn't viable anymore

15:58

resizing them breaks them

15:58

but that's the way that vista does

15:58

so i don't think i can fix it

Ah

unless there is an obscure way to do it

15:58

it's very minor

What do you think of the way 10 is setup btw?

15:59

I just wanted it to be relatively similar, so booting it is less of a shock

firefox as main and chromium for the rest. makes sense

15:59

why the outdated store?

Well which ever she chooses

yeah

Hm? I don't know, but it works. I doubt it'll be used much regardless

16:00

sib++ as the main start menu and taskbar i see

16:00

unless it's open shell

This stuff will appreciate that quad core

16:01

Open Shell, but with the SIB orb

oh nice.

16:01

i didn't know you could theme the taskbar that well on 10

It's a texture

16:01

I have Vista textures too

16:01

But she's used to the superbar

16:02

7 skin matches the superbar

16:02

Otherwise I'd have 8.1 Vista themed lol

that's how my setup is too

16:02

default superbar

docR

Otherwise I'd have 8.1 Vista themed lol

Vista8?!?!?!?!!?

Shhhhhhhhhhh

16:02

There's Canadians here

@That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes you have competition

Oh no

16:03

My focus is Vista7 lol

16:03

He can have 8, he's better at it than me

16:03

In reality my 7 is more like 6608, though

no more vista7?

16:03

vista7 dead????

16:04

rip bozo????????????????

It's not dead

16:04

It just so happens to look more like 6608 lol

thing is

I like it

there's a transformation pack that makes windows 7 look like 6608

Fuck

by marda

Well it's Ryan's Super Epic Windows 7, 'looks moreorless like Vista

16:05

Better?

yes

There

16:05

Also I brought these to 8 lol

16:05

Windows Energy cool

btw does your vista7 install have vista's stikynot? troll

How future proof you figure that Thinkpad is once the sandy ⏳ quad core is in?

ImSwordQueen

btw does your vista7 install have vista's stikynot? troll

No

16:06

16:07

Some things don't need to survive

docR

How future proof you figure that Thinkpad is once the sandy ⏳ quad core is in?

2008 hardware is still good

16:07

so it will be a while

This is a mix of 2011, 2015, and 2020 hardware

Everybody gangsta till MS actually starts forcing those requirements

you still have 10

16:08

and vista

16:08

unless microsoft chooses to kill win32 for good

Ehhhh. The requirements scare off the less experienced already, I doubt they will get that much more aggressive. Someone will always find a way

ImSwordQueen

unless microsoft chooses to kill win32 for good

That will never happen

16:08

Reminder about pre-10 WoA

Unless they want to move everyone to arm, there will always be a way

ah yes

16:09

windows on arm (edited)

well no one has bothered to patch out 10 to run without nx sse2 or pae

Windows RT feelscringeman

the circus is round the corner (edited)

nah, that's the SKU

16:09

i wonder

CoreARM x64 doesnt have the Win32 app sig check thing because that's arm specific kernel/ci flag

if 7000's stikynot would work on vista now

If anything, I think Microsoft will loosen the "requirements" somewhat if they choose to drop the standard skus of 10 in 2025. Either that, or extend it another 5 years

16:10

They forced everyone onto 10, only to lock its successor down feelscringeman

16:11

Gee wonder what that will do

Well i mean there's this thing called CorePC in the works

it's been a thing in the works for 5 years scamdisk

16:11

probably 6

aka basically 10X but with as Little compromises as possible

how many products were shipped with corePC?

16:12

probably 1

None as of yet

16:12

also CorePC != LitePC != Polaris != Andromeda

yeah

tho those are all cut from the same cloth

16:13

WCOS

damn it

KernelBase moment

kernelbase ruining our hopes and dreams

It do be like that at times

atleast 7000's sidebar "works"

wmp12 will never run on Vista™️

But artificial system requirements aside. This is alright from a purely hardware perspective? It just awes me freaking smartphones have similar cpus now

16:15

But all java vm feelscringeman

.net

16:15

The installer literally checks the registry for compat

ImSwordQueen

atleast 7000's sidebar "works"

What was even different

no sidebar

Oh

16:16

I thought you meant 7000 to rtm nvm

changing a value from client to embedded for example makes the installer run, but that doesnt mean it will properly install

16:16

well without the shit from embedded the update that installs .net 4.8 needs

I despise those server/client checks. They're so worthless

unironically 6519's sidebar broke my sidebar once

16:17

gadgets would just vanish

docR

I despise those server/client checks. They're so worthless

Partition managers and antiviruses on their way to make you pay for their pointless Server editions

16:18

"you can't run this on PE" (edited)

That's even dumber

16:19

Especially when shit like EasyUEFI does it

welcome to mini partition tool

16:19

ah yes

16:19

a tool which is meant to fix stuff

16:19

doesn't work on PE

Unless you buy the pro edition

16:19

very stupid

Well after CPU upgrade. Thinkpad needs a 90w ac adapter and dock, and a USB 3 express card. Then it be done

16:20

Charging a 97 wh battery off 60w adapter... Very fast

16:20

As you can only imagine

16:21

Scamdisk

Partition managers and antiviruses on their way to make you pay for their pointless Server editions

Pfffft

16:22

Yeah

16:22

Speaking of which

16:23

I'm just giving her that portable comodo cleaning essentials scanner, and mbam free

16:23

I mostly just run unfamiliar executables through virustotal myself

16:23

She's responsible, she doesn't need a bunch of nanny software

also Linux part managers better

2

By far

16:29

I keep a xubuntu usb for that very purpose

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wwnssimRjfVRE9GMXmEsTAHcGhmb9iMl/view?usp=sharing

Surface RT 8.0 Starter.7z

ImSwordQueen

welcome to mini partition tool

just use gparted

16:33

not these "partition managers"

Scamdisk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wwnssimRjfVRE9GMXmEsTAHcGhmb9iMl/view?usp=sharing

9200 Starter ARM32

Scamdisk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wwnssimRjfVRE9GMXmEsTAHcGhmb9iMl/view?usp=sharing

Surface Netbook

16:36

I mean the Surface Go really is that

16:36

With Windows in S mode which is worse than Starter

16:36

Windows in Stupid mode

Fun Fact: S Mode is just 2 registry keys that set a CI flag

16:37

Yes, fucking Server Datacenter in S Mode is possible

Yeah I know

16:37

I tried to bypass S mode like that

16:38

I failed

16:38

Skill issue

You need a PE to properly edit registry

16:38

on a S Mode system

16:38

Either that or WinRE

16:40

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\CI\Policy] "WindowsLockdownTrialMode"=dword:00000001 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\CI\Policy] "SkuPolicyRequired"=dword:00000001

16:40

Doing those in reverse will disable s mode

Scamdisk

You need a PE to properly edit registry

Idk how I tried to change it

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Woah wait how

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/880811907932626975/1010224610173788271/Windows_Logon.wav

ah yes, the Surface exclusive one

i tried something stupid, didn't go anywhere

12:10

IE won't launch obivously

cooking windows 8 enough that windeploy just gives up

‍

sex

12:41

here is the dui file (icons not included)

100.bin

44.39 KB

12:42

whole dll for 8.1 (includes icons)

bootux.dll

3.66 MB

ImSwordQueen

sex

No Windows 11 logo based

that's 8.1 bootux fault

13:04

i can't fix that

Windows 8.1 more based than ever

@skip you might like this

epic

13:16

i use grub tho

i said might

skip

i use grub tho

ez add option to boot to grub as well

can someone try patching this udwm with this? i tried it and failed

uDWM.dll

824 KB

19:15

actually i found the issue

19:15

i'm too dumb

19:19

OK IT'S BIGGER

19:19

NOT BY MUCH

19:19

BUT IT'S BIGGER

19:22

@E2 btw ^

Nice, who did this?

rounak

19:24

on the rectify11 discord

I was gonna get around, but I've been so busy lately (edited)

ye i noticed

Props to rounak

19:24

Can be made even wider perhaps

it can

Does it apply to the lone button too?

sadly

19:25

no

19:25

lone is an another value

At least the harder part is behind, less effort finding that too

19:25

Let me test this too

wait let me copy all the stuff he found

19:25

for the normal one

19:26

i believe it's this

19:26

for normal buttons

Wow, the same thing I pinpointed long ago :D

you know you were right that time lol (edited)

Good to know that at least

19:27

I suppose the lone button one has a similar naming

now the lone button is something with "lone"

19:28

this is the value for the normal button he wanted to modify

19:29

for normal buttons

19:29

i'm reposting stuff that he posted

Go on, I'll take a look tomorrow if I can

i posted all what he posted there (edited)

19:34

about the caption buttons

I'm seeing a value get moved, lol

19:35

Alright, I'll see what it is, thanks

ImSwordQueen

i believe it's this

and i had a suspicion

you were suspicious about that (edited)

i will murder you

amogus

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Windows 8.1 theme?

nah we are in the #windows-8 channel to talk about windows 7

20:11

of course it is

I just saw the channel has new messages, did not see which channel it was

️

20:13

I hope you get it fixed

the values he inserted

why that specifically

"7"'s values (edited)

almost

yeah it's almost

22:28

it's only 3 pixels short

22:28

meanwhile the lone button is

22:28

somewhere

22:28

legit

wuh

it's most likely in captionbuttonbounds

22:29

but who knows

22:29

only microsoft knows

For me Windows 7 theme just looks weird on 8.1

The buttons size are smaller

09:41

That's why

09:44

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

modifying this kills dwm apparently (edited)

what

Glass

what

Glass

balls

blast

@E2 bad news. apparently patching udwm to make the buttons bigger fucks up firefox for some reason

10:52

maybe it's a bad patch but it's not looking good

Do it anyway.

11:23

Just CSS mod Firefox to use Win7's button-cutout. (edited)

11:24

Not like Firefox isn't a mess of disrespecting the titlebar anyway... Firefox on Windows 7.

11:24

As long as browsers like an old version of Chromium (where the profile button was next to the titlebar buttons) are fine, yeah, just Firefox's problem. (edited)

For the record, Firefox on Windows 7 literally does THIS

11:35

(or did at least)

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

Just CSS mod Firefox to use Win7's button-cutout. (edited)

... how?

CSS modding.

11:38

Firefox does have win-version-specific CSS in the Firefox CSS.

11:38

Heck, you can also therefore bring back the shine in Firefox.

fuck that

Just, check Chrome 61.

11:39

It has a profile button right next to the titlebar buttons, and has 7-10 compatibility. (edited)

11:40

Thus, it's an incredibly useful asset for checking the expected button placements for applications like Chromium. (edited)

IE not being shit challenge

After all, you did say IE works... although that's probably because of IE's design introducing forced margins to the right. (edited)

i'm waiting for it to load shit

So... we found out 100% of other programs we tried work fine with the wider buttons

12:02

Thus making only Firefox have the issue

ImSwordQueen

@E2 bad news. apparently patching udwm to make the buttons bigger fucks up firefox for some reason

what if you change compatibility mode to windows 7?

stays fucked

or try other ways to spoof your windows release

I'd say just leave it unfixed if you cannot fix it, given it's clearly a Firefox-specific issue.

thing is

12:05

i want to main it

12:05

so

12:05

hell naw

Heck, it's probably using Windows 7 buttons-mode, which ofc. appears to be bugged.

ImSwordQueen

hell naw

hell yeah 'cos it gives Mozilla an incentive to fix their shit

12:06

Due to people reporting it

12:07

I know - just add a condition to Win8To7 which checks for Firefox, and if so uses the legacy udwm.dll

12:08

@ImSwordQueen ^

i legit would just put this as an extra

I mean, it's only Firefox with the issue TBF.

12:08

We shouldn't need to make too much of a compromise, tbh, except just subtly not doing that thing when Firefox is present. (edited)

nope still fucked even with the css patch

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

We shouldn't need to make too much of a compromise, tbh, except just subtly not doing that thing when Firefox is present. (edited)

^

12:13

After all, it seems like a pointless option to add to the UI.

about the buttons?

yeah, the titlebuttons.

13:26

just make it automatically choose depending on Firefox being installed or smth.

That sounds messy

13:46

If Firefox is broken, regardless of their gross UI defaults and need of CSS regardless, there's bound to be breakage elsewhere

13:46

Having a slightly more narrow button is better than breaking applications

13:46

It looks so much like 7 it's at the point of diminishing returns

docR

If Firefox is broken, regardless of their gross UI defaults and need of CSS regardless, there's bound to be breakage elsewhere

if Firefox is broken, while 100% of other applications that aren't Firefox aren't, that's a Firefox issue.

14:26

Tell them to fix their horrendous bugs already so they can be considered a serious browser again, instead of us having to compromise for a single program, imo. (edited)

14:27

Heck, wouldn't be surprised if Firefox 28 works just fine, even, since Chromium works fine, since Edge works fine, since every other application Sword has tried works fine but Firefox, Firefox is the ONLY broken program. (edited)

14:29

'sides, Firefox on Windows 7 more recently has done, or does, this: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/972654791471824917/1013773862539894824/20211023_115850.jpg

14:29

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/972654791471824917/1013773863320031243/unknown-127.png Does that mean people should stop using Windows 7? (edited)

14:33

Heck, on Linux Firefox is literally the worst browser, period, with issues like inability to properly respect your titlebar button order preference, menus that have broken backgrounds if you use image/gradient backgrounds, etc.: Does that mean people should stop using themes on Linux, client-side decorations, etc., since only Firefox breaks with them? I think you get my point by now - it's time we stop bending our asses over for a broken piece of software, and actually give Mozilla a reason to FIX IT, tbf. They've been given too many chances now, and everyone has bent their asses for Mozilla too many times, just for them to give us more bs to bend our asses about in return. If EVERY OTHER APPLICATION but Firefox works, we shouldn't care (because Mozilla clearly doesn't care), as it's clearly a solely Firefox issue at that point by process of elimination. (edited)

14:37

'tis honestly a shame Sword relies on such a broken browser, too, 'cos now we're probably gonna need to add a Firefox workaround to the installer inevitably, thus giving Mozilla less reason to care about such bugs. honestly, I just feel sorry for y'all who have to put up with all of this, since y'all probably expect way better, but ofc. Mozilla ain't ever gonna listen. (edited)

(on a related note, tbf the only reason I give Firefox love at this point is to prove a point that it ain't beyond remedy just yet, and can be saved if it is given some actually good management and code-work... and significant decisions made, in respect to GTKless) (edited)

is this such a breaking problem

legit i wasn't planning a 8to7 3.3 yet

i mean, it's inevitable tho.

like death?

14:50

thanos wasnt inevitable so neither is this troll

wait

14:51

i just realized

14:51

that the ugly ass fog in firefox

14:51

is intentional

yeah...

yes

always has been intentional.

14:52

~~because Mozilla is incapable of adding GLOW to labels to match Windows's appearance~~ (edited)

that's why glass8 on firefox doesn't look sad

14:52

but then

14:52

you got themes that makes it sad

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

~~because Mozilla is incapable of adding GLOW to labels to match Windows's appearance~~ (edited)

~~so they just committed 78xx(?)~~

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

'tis honestly a shame Sword relies on such a broken browser, too, 'cos now we're probably gonna need to add a Firefox workaround to the installer inevitably, thus giving Mozilla less reason to care about such bugs. honestly, I just feel sorry for y'all who have to put up with all of this, since y'all probably expect way better, but ofc. Mozilla ain't ever gonna listen. (edited)

They wouldn't care more anyway, they don't speak for issues caused by OS customisation, let alone modifying the window manager components

14:54

Although they do neglect non-custom environments quite a bit too, lol

but weird that

14:55

firefox breaks like that with 1 simple value change

14:55

"simple"

ImSwordQueen

firefox breaks like that with 1 simple value change

Firefox breaks with 1 other simple value change:

ImSwordQueen

is intentional

I thought that was obvious

I instantly figured that the glass wouldn't contrast nicely with the black tab text on some colors, like black

Titlebar button order on Linux

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

Titlebar button order on Linux

:oh:

so it's likely nothing to worry about, except Firefox being Firefox

14:56

Firefox logic: elementary OS titlebar layout? Two buttons on left.

welp 1 more reason to use aero css on firefox troll

ImSwordQueen

firefox breaks like that with 1 simple value change

To me, sounds like use cheap hacks to keep the title bar together

yeah same

Quantum was better

i believe quantum does it as well

14:58

actually

14:58

let me check

well yeah no sher Quantum was better, that's a literal fact. troll

14:58

though, pre-Australis Firefox best

which version was quantum

ImSwordQueen

i believe quantum does it as well

It did some other things much better than proton does

14:58

I think, 88

welcome to

14:59

what the hell is this

n o idea

ImSwordQueen

what the hell is this

That is Firefox on Windows 7.

ok buttons are dead too

15:00

great

well yeah

15:00

they remove the buttons in Windows 7 when using Firefox themes (edited)

15:00

it's a feature they introduced recently in Proton, I think

no i mean

15:00

dead because of udwm's patch

where the fog and themes overlay the titlebuttons entirely

going to test quantum

Google did not bother screwing around with chrome, and just disables Aero borders

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

it's a feature they introduced recently in Proton, I think

proton is the previous ui for firefox. this is photon

that proton is the fault

Deformisani SAS

proton is the previous ui for firefox. this is photon

wrong

no

Proton is the shit ui

15:01

Photon is the good ui

photon

proton is the shit ui that there is now

photon is shit

photon is quantum and before

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

Photon is the good ui

Oh, it's photon

literally shittiest opinion?

15:01

no wonder you are a cs:go player

ImSwordQueen

no wonder you are a cs:go player

stfu nn

Photon is the best one they had

literally says the russian cs:go player

Let's not get personal, eh?

Deformisani SAS

photon is shit

you might need your eyes cleansing, as Proton is the shit ui actually. This is Photon, for comparison, to bad application design number 1: troll

15:02

photon

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

you might need your eyes cleansing, as Proton is the shit ui actually. This is Photon, for comparison, to bad application design number 1: troll

that s proton

OK PHOTON DOESN'T HAVE THIS BUG (edited)

photon is the ui that we have now

LEGIT

15:03

PROTON SUCKS ASS

See :)

Deformisani SAS

that s proton

what proton?

15:03

That hasn't got Proton's floating tabs

15:03

therefore, it isn't Proton.

THEN WHAT IS IT?

It also says, ON OFFICIAL DOCUMENTATION, it's Photon.

this is photon

next time, RESEARCH your claims before making claims debunked by just one Google search. :P (edited)

or quantum

photon based

Elite, you might be confusing. Floating tab UI introduced in 89, is Proton

15:04

Older one since 57 is photon, I believe

yep it's broken in proton only (edited)

Photon is the last good design for Firefox

wow

Proton is the shittiest browser design of all internet browsers (edited)

proton being garbage?

15:04

nobody thought about that

15:05

it's not like

It was probably rushed too

it's the most hated firefox design

Customisation looks properly only on 10+

ImSwordQueen

it's not like

I mean, Proton did add the titlebar hiding feature, wym

E2

Older one since 57 is photon, I believe

wrong

How? Are you going to argue with Mozilla?

just use Firefox in Windows 7, and here in 8.x, to see the feature where they hide your titlebar buttons from view, or otherwise fog them. troll

(edited)

an another proton L

15:06

no i did not cut the screenshot on the top

15:06

it's like that on proton

15:06

it gets cut for some fucking reason

I'll update my theme for 100 esr or whatever it is now

how tf is ur titlebar entirely transparent?

102ESR

Deformisani SAS

how tf is ur titlebar entirely transparent?

check #web

But I also theme it more like ff4-28, too, which requires title bar off

15:08

I'll say

15:08

Love how customizable Firefox is but.... Fucking hell why are the defaults so bad?

15:08

Photon looked great

15:08

It was modern

legit proton is a disappointment

But looked nice on everything

*why is it so bad?

15:08

there, more accurate now. troll

Chrome has better ui defaults

but then

Firefox can stomp all over it with css, sure

*Chrome has better basically everything

you can't customize chrome

so if it has a bad UI

15:09

people would just switch

outside of customisation UI (edited)

But the our if the box experience should still be decent

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

*Chrome has better basically everything

Manifest v3 creeps at the door *

basically everything

15:09

doesn't mean all everything (edited)

Extensions store is a malware haven

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

*Chrome has better basically everything

not in the adblock space troll

ImSwordQueen

not in the adblock space troll

congrats, you said what HAL said

damn

15:10

i didn't scroll

i want to see how aero CSS looks on 8to7

15:10

it will be broken

laughs in Vivaldi with CSS and UI-customisation

@docR stop being everywhere

elite can you not break the convo

15:11

legit

Harder to get working on older oses. Extensions, despite both utilizing web extensions, have more access to the shell. (eg tab unloaders getting context menus), policies.json customization, better build documentation

ImSwordQueen

elite can you not break the convo

no

It's a friendlier browser all around

-warn @Deformisani SAS

Containers are a godsend

ImSwordQueen

-warn @Deformisani SAS

u don't have your role for that

doc?

Deformisani SAS

@docR stop being everywhere

cringe

15:12

also they really made Lepton a literal theme in Waterfox (edited)

15:13

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

cringe

that ui is terrible

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

cringe

ok that looks awful

15:13

holy shit

15:13

remember when waterfox was considered good?

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

laughs in Vivaldi with CSS and UI-customisation

Vivaldi looks like it's been kicked in the face by a mule. And all that fancy UI shit is loaded from a js plugin. It's hell lol, although cool in concept. Chromium is best left unmodified. Or just small cosmetic things

ImSwordQueen

remember when waterfox was considered good?

yeah and i used it

edge works somehow

15:14

but then

did firefox break css?

shady practices to get users to switch

Imagine Opera 12 revival, using Firefox though. That would make for an interesting browser

that would be a cool project unironically

docR

Imagine Opera 12 revival, using Firefox though. That would make for an interesting browser

someone did that already

Deformisani SAS

Click to see attachment 🖼️

you forgot to enable legacy customizazion

but the github page was taken down

15:15

ImSwordQueen

you forgot to enable legacy customizazion

where tf is that

Opera 12 UI

15:15

+

15:15

Gecko

15:15

+

15:15

all the privacy settings on by default

15:16

that would be cool as fuck

where do i enable legacy customisation?

about:config

docR

Vivaldi looks like it's been kicked in the face by a mule. And all that fancy UI shit is loaded from a js plugin. It's hell lol, although cool in concept. Chromium is best left unmodified. Or just small cosmetic things

looks in sadge

yeah it's broken with aero CSS too

i guess proton did something for the tabs

I made that theme for 91

literally you are looking at the wrong one

15:18

i mean

15:18

it works on 102 esr too

there is no other legacy thing in about:config

I haven't updated it yet, but friends say it's mostly okay on the next esr yeah

15:18

I'll update it later

15:18

I'm still on 91

udwm is the problem with the caption buttons

15:18

sadly

I update my themes when I switch troll

15:19

My themes are for me first and foremost lol

ImSwordQueen

udwm is the problem with the caption buttons

port win 7 dwm

i will port deez nutz in your mouth

Deformisani SAS

port win 7 dwm

-brasil @Deformisani SAS

docR

-brasil @Deformisani SAS

y

No 7s dwm is comparatively shit lol

what

Slower than vistas and 8s

lol no

lol yes

vista's udwm is slower than 7's

@docR look at this

Deformisani SAS

vista's udwm is slower than 7's

You're drifting

and 8's is faster than 10's

ok you deserve to be brazilled

docR

You're drifting

into your mouth

i have to bring the right icon

ImSwordQueen

@docR look at this

damn how old is that

but damn that looks hot

ImSwordQueen

@docR look at this

I was wondering when someone would Remake that. @Scamdisk mind if I rehost that on my domain, too?

I can host it without https so it'll load in everything, if you can send the files

it works on firefox 95 but doesn't on firefox 104

it's meant for esr

15:21

so thank you captain obvious

I only update my themes for ESR

15:22

I'm not paid to update it every 3 days

ngl this theme looks terrible

user error

docR

I can host it without https so it'll load in everything, if you can send the files

if you host it is it possible to have it have different search engines?

docR

user error

you mean uid?

yep user error

15:22

you're running it on 10

15:22

that's the first mistake

ImSwordQueen

if you host it is it possible to have it have different search engines?

I mean I'm sure it is, but I'd have to research that one

well wasnt me who did this

diagnosis: Skill issue

wtf scamdisk lore?!?!?!?!?!?

15:23

multiple scamdisks?!?!

scamdisk lore?

15:23

Uhhhhh

well, there could be multiple of any username

the aero buttons are not looking good

Well either way I'll try and save the page contents and rehost it

i've seen multiple people with the username "Xeno" for example

ImSwordQueen

@docR look at this

Can you dm me that url. So I don't forget?

https://scamdisk.neocities.org/firefox/2009

15:24

also

15:24

https://scamdisk.neocities.org/firefox (edited)

Ubuntu Start Page when

15:25

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

make one

tbf

15:25

it's just a reskin of Firefox's in the earlier days

what about porting modern ass gecko over to ff3- oh wait

Scamdisk

what about porting modern ass gecko over to ff3- oh wait

not possible.

what about a firefox 28 fork which gets updated.... oh wait

ain't palememe a ff24esr tho

@Deformisani SAS also. Change the Firefox theme to default. If it's still dark, it's probably trying to apply the Windows 10 theme. I really didn't design this theme for 10

dark on vista looks fine

You could use the light theme in Firefox, but it'll be white instead of blue

on 10 it looks like garbage

ImSwordQueen

dark on vista looks fine

It looks a little funny, but I might be able to tune it

anything glossy/glassy on 10 looks like garbage

Scamdisk

anything glossy/glassy on 10 looks like garbage

WindowBlinds:

i like it how it looks tbh

3flat5me

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

WindowBlinds:

garbage

@docR here are the files

jdesktop.7z

107.13 KB

15:29

they look broken though

15:29

:oh:

15:30

only the 2009 one looks broken

15:30

the 2005 one looks fine

noice.

15:33

figured out how to add lines to these message boxes

ImSwordQueen

they look broken though

The logo I'm assuming? Maybe the images are hosted somewhere

15:33

I'll figure it out

15:34

Least the 2005-8 one is good though

god this looks so good

Dm that to me so I don't forget

15:34

I'll fix it up

bes.

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

bes.

Nice 8toVista icon there troll

there, added it to Win8To7's upstream code yes.

I'm currently testing open with enhanced to see if i should add it or nah

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

bes.

why not offer the user a yes/no option here?

because you wanted to begin transformation by the time that appears (edited)

21:05

it's merely warning you it'll have some limitations

to me it sounds like it's skipping a tweak for compatibility reasons

21:06

I'm saying to give a yes/no option to let the user accept the risk of breaking Firefox

21:06

and add a "If you don't understand this, click <default option>." (edited)

there is no risk.

21:13

there is 100% chance.

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

figured out how to add lines to these message boxes

\n

gib wallpaper

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gib wallpaper

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/97226724 WARNING: DO NOT check the Lagtrain tag with R-18 on, period.

虞irony

修正後

ラグトレイン

never tell people to not do something

2

11:05

crucial mistake

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/97226724 WARNING: DO NOT check the Lagtrain tag with R-18 on, period.

k lemme check with r-18 on

11:05

wow very god

RayZen

k lemme check with r-18 on

Prepare for one instance of blood? then... Also wait tf are you doing with it on when you aren't an adult, eh, EH?

(edited)

LMSO

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

Prepare for one instance of blood? then... Also wait tf are you doing with it on when you aren't an adult, eh, EH?

(edited)

ok

11:16

also they will not know i'm an adult troll

22:54

ignore the... Delta IE on the Quick Launch

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

Click to see attachment 🖼️

man.

Damn

06:09

I have an idea. You could use the library icon from 6608 as the main explorer.exe icon

06:09

I did that in my Vista7

Brownie points if you can figure out window frame opaque effect, without that buggy unglass that breaks multiple monitors

also the icons for the other libraries folders could had just been the 6608 ones, but the 6801? ones work just as well

Yeah

docR

Brownie points if you can figure out window frame opaque effect, without that buggy unglass that breaks multiple monitors

you literally can't in 8.1/8.0 rn

13:54

because the technique is gone, reduced to atoms, from dwm/Glass8. (edited)

13:54

the msstyles literally uses it, at least in DS!Delta

13:54

but without it present...

docR

I have an idea. You could use the library icon from 6608 as the main explorer.exe icon

meh.

13:55

Besides, you can't change explorer.exe's icon in 8.0+ in the first place (edited)

13:55

explorer.exe is signature enforced

8.x

dis is why u shud use vista....

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

Besides, you can't change explorer.exe's icon in 8.0+ in the first place (edited)

maybe make that in 8.0 (if you even support that) it replaces explorer with 7's

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Click to see attachment 🖼️

https://tenor.com/bCA3D.gif

https://twitter.com/wowstartsnow/status/1567190742220652544?t=GHh8QCQBieaEEzNfZnsNUQ&s=19

Windows On Windows (@wowstartsnow)

Everything At Once by Lenka was used to promote Windows 8. The lyrics “it’s everything at once” signalled the plan for 8 to run on all kinds of device, from tablets to PCs. Microsoft said, “the new UI is […] optimised for touch, [but] works equally well with a mouse & keyboard.”

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Lq78qlS0eJ11OunepEmSj0tngtrD0ml2/view?usp=sharing (edited)

Well, will I be able to install Russian Language Pack after I install this version of Windows Embedded 8.1?

10:42

I'm just wondering

Just install the client Russian LP

Oh, where I can find it?

look for the languages thing in control panel

10:47

You should be able to add it from there

Ah, I guess I will be able to do that!

yeah imagine needing ultimate to use language packs

10:48

take that, vista and 7 users (edited)

I guess it is possible to download language packs in this modified version of 8.1 Embedded!

well Vista and 7 have a funny workaround, but still

Also, does this ISO include Visual C++ Runtimes installed? (edited)

10:53

Or I do have install them seperately?

RostiTheGamer

Or I do have install them seperately?

separately

11:16

but i included dotnet 3.5

Ah oki

11:16

At least there's Visual C++ Runtimes AIO

skip

take that, vista and 7 users (edited)

You could also add 2000 and XP then

skip

take that, vista and 7 users (edited)

gang xp x64

15:36

no

15:36

xp rtm sp0 x86

lemme guess as to why? progman perhaps?

the store for 8.1 is gone

16:22

8.0 store somewhat works but can't fetch shit

16:26

weather for 8.0 fails to load now

16:26

8.1 live tile is dead

skip

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Lq78qlS0eJ11OunepEmSj0tngtrD0ml2/view?usp=sharing (edited)

Tried that ISO, but Boot Camp assistant threw me an error due to the file being 5 GB. I guess it requires 3-4 GB in order to do that

ImSwordQueen

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aEW71YhWBGC4tdjZ1WXiwYxZLXvIkONt/view Windows 8.1 Pro and Core fully updated 5-2021 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CRGUs0L1k7KCHwKrQkWBcjzE3hgUdsyo/view Windows Embedded 8 Industry Pro and Enterprise fully updated 10-2021 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cXqu5Y-_7vCXRgoyKsPX_OByzzzLitaG/view Windows 8.1 Pro and Core fully updated 6-2022 (edited)

Maybe I'll try that ISO cuz it's 3 GB

16:39

I hope it will work

16:40

And is it also x64?

Here's a tip, you can install Windows on a Mac without the bootcamp assistant

Oh, how can I do that? I currently have Mac OS X 10.8.5

what mac do you have

16:52

lemme guess, macbook4,1?

Mac Mini (Mid 2011)

RostiTheGamer

And is it also x64?

i only used x64

16:53

so yes

16:53

if it's not xp

16:53

you can always have the guarantee it's x64 from me (edited)

Oki, got it

Guessing that may still need mbr for Windows, so here's a trick, download the cd version of rEFInd and flash it into a usb

16:54

then flash another usb with the Windows you want

16:54

then boot rEFInd from the rEFInd usb

16:54

and there, you can boot mbr from usb

Oh

Apple dumbery as usual

Yea

16:55

I need another partition of my HDD for Windows?

Also here's another thing, You cant boot mbr from usb after you install Windows like this due to well, Apple dumbery again, so You gotta wipe that hdd back into gpt

Damn

16:57

How do I do that?

Oh well

17:32

At least I managed to create a bootable USB drive with that ISO. I hope Boot Camp will let me install that version of 8.1 Embedded

Also, does that ISO work on MBR?

17:46

Or only in UEFI?

17:53

Btw, Boot Camp managed to copy the installation files in my USB and the installer is working!

Alright, I finally installed it!

I will install games tomorrow

Bummer, the Discord App somehow stopped updating, but at least the web version seems to be working

20:37

So from now on, I will stick to the web version cuz Discord app somehow stopped working

20:42

Oh well. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Welp, I guess Windows 8 is a bit faster than Windows 7, well for me

this is true]

Yep

05:52

It is

05:53

I really missed using Windows 8.1, so I decided to install it again

05:54

And also, I installed that version of Windows Embedded 8.1 which is fully updated (well, I used the 10-2021 ISO cuz it's 3 GB), unlike the original ISO

05:55

Which means the system won't brick if I have Aero Glass

Guys I need help

16:50

I tried to install dotNet Framework 3.5, but it does nothing

16:50

What can I do?

RostiTheGamer

I tried to install dotNet Framework 3.5, but it does nothing

wdym by nothing?

I mean, I click "Turn on/off Windows Features and Components", but nothing happens. I am using the 2021-01 ISO of Windows Embedded 8.1

16:54

Nvm, I found a solution

16:54

All I had to do is enter "optionalfeatures" on the start menu, then run as Admin, and it worked!

16:55

Now I can install dotNET Framework 3.5!

16:55

Also, I will install a few games, cuz I often play Gmod

@ImSwordQueen Sorry for ping, but how do I change title bar text color?

msstyles

19:56

or glass8 GUI

alright thanks

RostiTheGamer

Now I can install dotNET Framework 3.5!

i always just use the actual installer for 3.5

WinDVD

i always just use the actual installer for 3.5

it doesnt work on 8.1 or whatever

21:09

comes up with an error that tells you to install it from programs and features

21:09

what i do is just integrate it into the iso

It works on 10 lmao

i just use dism and a 8.1 iso to install 3.5

I accidentally deleted svchost.com and directx.sys and nothing runs!

12:13

What do I do?

sfc /scannow

classic response

1

Oh no

12:37

I got a virus!

12:37

It's Neshta virus, and I am trying to fix it

12:37

it also fucked up the registry!

L

RostiTheGamer

it also fucked up the registry!

fuck the virus

uhh

13:24

wha

13:24

lol

Do not worry tho, I am removing the virus and fixing EXE's with Dr.Web's CureIt

just reinstall windows at that point

14:09

it's not worth it on the long run

i know neshta.a

14:16

i was infected by it once

i know of surabaya instead

14:24

no not the city

14:24

the virus

14:25

this bastard

bro how do you manage to get these viruses

14:36

after my neshta.a infection i reinstalled and reobtained everything and focused on safety

i remember seeing xp computers in my old middle school in 5th or 6th grade that were infected with that

14:39

i once managed to get myself that one too (with a 4gb usb stick that got borked as of now) (edited)

I can't believe I got infected by Neshta.A!

15:01

I got really unlucky...

I hope I will be extremely careful next time

15:09

I also deleted the infected EXEs

15:10

I'm afraid that I downloaded something unsafe that caused this virus to appear

I also found out that the executable icons are now in low quality, which means the EXEs are now infected

15:21

That's not a good thing

bro

15:24

can you please use cracked game installers in VMs and not your main machine (edited)

Update: turns out that StartIsBack+ (which I downloaded from 7themes) is the source of Neshta virus.

15:27

Which means, this is definitely the source of this trouble!

15:28

Where I can find the CLEAN one?

15:30

Alright, you know what? I am reinstalling this system fully!

okay...?

I fucking hate that virus!

okay

I hope the same virus won't appear ever again...

15:33

I think I got infected by Neshta virus in Windows 7, now the same virus in Windows 8.1!

bro

15:36

we get it

15:37

you got infected by neshta virus

15:37

calm down

I guess only the EXEs are infected

15:40

What a worst day for me.

if you can take an exe, then get it infected, then compare the two in a hex editor, you may be able to repair them. but if it just fills them with garbage, maybe not

15:43

and also check file modification dates on other types of files

I thought that virus would not spread, but somehow it did

i think he uses win7...

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Come again

guy downloaded a shady SAB crack, and he's not even on Vista

16:03

It's barely old to be an issue

Good news: The drivers are not infected on my Windows 8.1 Install USB, so the hope is not lost!

Imagine not pirating sab yourself

16:03

Weak

From now on, I will reinstall Windows (hopefully I won't catch the Neshta virus again and I will enable Windows defender)

16:12

I was stupid, then I got that virus

16:13

Next time, I will leave Windows Defender on, and I will be extreme careful while downloading something

16:13

Also, I will use OpenShell instead of StartIsBack+ for safety

And also, I will delete infected EXEs if there's any

God, this virus is indeed deadly

2

oofer_dww

can you please use cracked game installers in VMs and not your main machine (edited)

Seconded. Test them in VMs first

18:26

Yeah, seriously be more careful than that

18:26

Never, ever run cracks on your main system without testing them in a VM

Noted

Disconnect those VMs from the internet, too

docR

Seconded. Test them in VMs first

they can go up at the end too

18:27

thats why i said that

Run the files through virustotal. Expect some false positives. But if every single one lights up, and they say ransomware or some other shit, discard of it

rg mechanics are assholes who used to drop cryptomining malware at the end

They didn't used to

docR

Run the files through virustotal. Expect some false positives. But if every single one lights up, and they say ransomware or some other shit, discard of it

That's why I am doing it

I have some old rg cracks of things

repacks

18:28

not cracks

Yeah that's what I mean

fitgirl is best

fitgirl yeah

The Aero Glass repack that Oofer_dww sent me a repack doesn't contain any viruses

fitgirl is indeed the best

18:29

Good

RostiTheGamer

The Aero Glass repack that Oofer_dww sent me a repack doesn't contain any viruses

obviously it doesnt because i used that for 2 years

Painter is good too

Yep

18:29

He is

i sent painter v1.2.5 aeroglass

That's what I use

lol

18:30

i get the game files from the repacks in VM then re-repack them and use them

Also, Net Framework 3.5 doesn't want to download from Windows Update and throws an error

just install it manually lmao

How?

.net framework 3.5 redistributable

if its win8.1 run a program that runs on nf 3.5

Oh Windows 8

it will ask to install feature

Go to programs and features

18:32

Add features

18:32

And yeah that too

for some reason when i try add features

18:32

it doesnt want to install

18:32

but when there is software it decides to install

I have that issue, but on 7

18:33

Add features is just a white box

Time to talk about that tip again

18:37

First of all, you need to have the install media on you still Run cmd as admin, then type in this command Dism /online /enable-feature /featurename:NetFx3 /All /Source:Install Media Letter:\sources\sxs /LimitAccess

Alright, I got it to install!

18:44

And yes, I will keep Windows Defender enabled

in 8.1 install media, its a lot of folders (edited)

19:57

in 10 or 11 install media, you only see 3 or so cab files (edited)

04:47

T520 lives

04:47

Board swapped, and 1080p m4800 screen in

04:47

This thing looks

Thankfully, I did clean up my pendrives from viruses, and I deleted unused executables (just to be completely safe from that virus). And I will never download any suspicious repacks/cracks.

05:05

And good news: The virus is gone!

05:06

From now on, I will check any downloaded repacks with VirusTotal. Even Windows Defender will remove any suspicious EXE

including this one:

05:09

the problem is that i wrote it

05:10

and it does nothing suspicious nor does it even request admin privileges. it just draws a bi flag to a ppm file!!

protip. disable defender

win32

the problem is that i wrote it

i guess with some esoteric combination of privileges it could theoretically overwrite ntoskrnl but you'd have to be enderman to do something like that

Deformisani SAS

protip. disable defender

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (edited)

Deformisani SAS

protip. disable defender

^

06:04

Pro tip: Don't unleash untested crackivators / repacks on your system

06:05

Seriously, that could've gone much worse

06:05

And don't become reliant on one scanners heuristics either

06:06

They can return false positives as win32 demonstrated, or just fail to detect malicious software

or just download from trustworthy sites

06:21

like the r/piracy megathread

Yea

06:21

r/piracy is 100% trusted

06:22

At least OpenShell is customizable too and it's open-source

Legit

06:26

You don't need pirated sib+ if you use 8.1

06:26

As activation is broken

06:27

And just goes in the negative

ImSwordQueen

You don't need pirated sib+ if you use 8.1

Well, indeed

06:33

But for now, I will just stick to Open-Shell

06:33

At least Discord client loads again!

06:34

The reason why it didn't load it's because of that virus

06:35

But at least the reinstall fixed the issue. And I am glad that virus is finally gone

06:35

Now I will be extra careful

ImSwordQueen

As activation is broken

Also, how did ya know that activation is broken?

Oh well

13:16

From now on, I will only download repacks from trusted repackers and not from god-knows-what from unknown website (which might contain malicious repacks)

13:17

And this is how to avoid that virus. Also, I cleaned my pendrive where the infected EXEs stored for extra safety. And also, I will check each installer for any virus via VirusTotal

13:17

Lastly, installing Antivirus is the best solution to avoid viruses!

13:19

Even Virtual Machines are useful to evade the viruses

RostiTheGamer

Also, how did ya know that activation is broken?

He used it before I think

skip

or just download from trustworthy sites

Even torrent sites often have an uploader ranking system. The trusted ones are usually fine, but you should still tread with caution

13:47

I prefer Open Shell myself

13:47

I even use it on 7

docR

Even torrent sites often have an uploader ranking system. The trusted ones are usually fine, but you should still tread with caution

Good point

docR

I prefer Open Shell myself

Also, me too

i like the start screen

Start Screen if it had mouse gestures would be nice

13:50

But Microsoft isn't very forward thinking lol

13:51

Who needs a touch centric UI without gestures? feelscringeman

13:51

Does look cool, though

it has touchpad gestures tho

I tried swiping up and down to bring up the all apps menu

15:44

Maybe there are some gestures, but they're primitive if not abysmal

yeah its not macOS level of good but they are there

Welp, I installed an antivirus on my Windows 8.1 Machine, and now I will be extra protected!

And yea, I will now download repacks from only trusted sources from Piracy Megathread, not from some site that I found on Google

17:09

Now I learned my lesson

I still wish Windows had a touchpad gesture to open the start menu

17:32

like 3 finger swipe up could be the start menu gesture

17:33

while 4 fingers open the multitasking view

17:35

I mean yes

17:35

but I almost never use the Windows key to open the start menu

17:36

if I press it I'm doing it for the search

17:36

if I want to launch an app by using the mouse I click the start button

17:36

I don't like a full taskbar

17:36

just messes me up

17:37

I just have file explorer, edge and discord

17:37

cause those 3 are always open

17:38

none of my PCs have any app links on the desktop

17:38

the desktop is what I call a work table, keep only what I need currently on it

17:39

start search was so good until they fucked it with bing

17:41

if it were implemented good maybe

I feel so proud after I installed an antivirus!

18:54

I even got rid of that pesky virus

antivirus is a virus

no antivirus is guaranteed to protect you from all malware

19:46

that and if youve downloaded it for free there is a possible chance it could be collecting data from you or straight up mining crypto off your pc

19:46

just do not download fishy stuff off the internet that you dont trust. simple as

19:47

with a brain and a bit of common sense you could run win 2k and surf modern internet just fine

Fishy stuff only on VMs (edited)

20:12

And I understood that I should not download fishy stuff. And yes, I only download repacks from trusted ones, like Fitgirl

20:13

And yea, on NNM-Club, 1337x.to and RuTracker there are moderators. Which means the torrents are perfectly moderated

lodocus

with a brain and a bit of common sense you could run win 2k and surf modern internet just fine

Seconded

RostiTheGamer

And yea, I will now download repacks from only trusted sources from Piracy Megathread, not from some site that I found on Google

You should generally be very selective of torrent repacks and etc

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

dont use windows trol

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

That's called not using Windows

04:27

My only computer that's the most legit activation wise is the TC1100, cause the rest are fully 100% pirated.

100% piracy on everything i own

04:54

except the 7 install on my laptop

04:55

actually no all my 7 pro installs are legit

it uses kms activation too

i bought a 20 dollar copy of windows 10 once

05:22

or 13 dollars

05:22

can't remember

05:22

lost the key to it after a couple months and losing a pc it was installed on as well

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

lost the key to it after a couple months and losing a pc it was installed on as well

this was the last time i had ever installed windows 10 myself

05:23

since then the only copies i've had were preinstalled

Betajyst4094

You should generally be very selective of torrent repacks and etc

Betajyst has spoken

i never paid for windows

07:08

ever

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

especially since isos for windows 10 and 11 are provided FOR FREE by MICROSOFT themselves through media creation tool (edited)

13:02

insider builds also apply here

13:02

including server builds

afaik they have 8 and 7 isos as well

13:26

too unrealistic. taskbar didn't have open apps

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

use a never version of firefox with classic theme restorer extension (54.0.1 is recommended for the extension)

13:27

and just change the firefox icon

but why

13:28

literally i don't need to load modern websites

classic_theme_restorer1.6.9.1fx.xpi

1018.63 KB

13:28

works better

literally why

idk

i don't need modern websites

13:28

also when was that theme made

13:28

if it's over 2012 then it's no good

over 2012?

everything made after 2012

i think this version of the extension was last updated in 2017

13:29

you can customise the shit out of the extension and the firefox looks

ok tell

13:30

me why i need it

13:30

on a 2012 vm

basically brings this for example onto a newer version of firefox (note that this extension does not work on the latest firefox)

loading modern websites on modern firefox?

13:30

i don't fucking need modern websites

ok

you are a trrrible salesman

WinDVD

afaik they have 8 and 7 isos as well

about windows 7 isos every iso is 2018-08 except for professional x64, apparently the install.wim file there is modified in november 2018 instead (edited)

i use that iso with a few patches

ImSwordQueen

too unrealistic. taskbar didn't have open apps

my desktop in 2014 basically escept win7 instead of win8

Windows Embedded Next

Scamdisk

Click to see attachment 🖼️

standard right?

yes, Embedded = Embedded Standard

14:39

yet the state i got it to stage in is well, starter but not starter

i wonder what build actually changed the branding to embedded next

9431 has this same branding

14:41

tho it could be even earlier

14:41

14:42

Well i had to work around the fact the Embedded Features package was incomplete

14:42

so i just replaced that with client features

14:42

Which resulted in this sadder starter state

it's timebombed too i see

14:42

so basically

14:43

starter but more sad

@ImSwordQueen what happens to startisback when trial thing expires

+ doesn't deactivate

15:33

And goes to negative

15:33

Normal will deactivate and disable recent programs

15:33

And nag you

15:33

++ will have sad face

wdym nag you

It will open at every startup

popup?

turn into malware?

It's just the configurator opening

15:34

At the activation page

can you remove it?

15:35

i want to make a custom windows iso

Trials are user based

15:35

So if you make a custom iso

15:35

It will reset anyway

just crack it like windows 9 mod

15:36

lol

That's sib+

15:37

Not sib

this is just sib?

15:37

still crackable

The 9 mod is based on 8.1

15:37

Not 8.0

ik

Sib+ doesn't need to be activated

thought it was +

As it will go into negative days

15:37

And would still work

oofer_dww

just crack it like windows 9 mod

i want to share it, so i dont want pirated software

With no nags

Deleted User

can you remove it?

pirated software literally

but i want to share my custom windows iso

15:39

fine i will use sib+

15:40

bc i will add activator script too

If you are using 8.0

15:40

Then you only have normal

15:40

8.1 is sib+

15:40

And 10 sib++

MS may change the way Windows works to the 10X-like style

15:41

meaning no leftovers to use

bruh please dont pull a tyl here (edited)

ImSwordQueen

8.1 is sib+

i will use 8.1 embedded

just use windows 9 then

15:42

lol

the Embedded 8.1 mod or the 9834 mod trol

oofer_dww

just use windows 9 then

i want to make my own iso

i dont see your point in making another win8.1 embedded mod

15:44

you could have just used pirate sib on 8.0

Or

15:44

Use ex7forw8

yes

15:45

tihiy is someone who doesnt deserve money anyway

Only downside there is more uac prompts and no metro

oofer_dww

tihiy is someone who doesnt deserve money anyway

Why?

oofer_dww

i dont see your point in making another win8.1 embedded mod

lightweight windows 8.1

ImSwordQueen

Why?

petty lawsuits

To who

iirc we talked about it here before

We didn't

How do I activate 8.1 using a script or whatever

17:30

@Scamdisk

17:32

i need to activate embedded 8.1 industry pro

17:34

sorry for ping

Embedded Industry Pro should be GVLKEmbeddedIndustry

product9600.ini

3.45 KB

thanks

17:47

how do i use it

well the kms key that is

17:47

slmgr /ipk the kms key for EmbeddedIndustry

dat it?

You also need to set a kms server

17:48

slmgr /skms kms server here

and?

then slmgr /ato

ok thanks

and it should activate

thx a lot

@Scamdisk

Did you set a kms server

yes

17:59

kms.digiboy.ir

17:59

lemme try another

kms8.msguides.com

OH

18:00

didnt make the files properly lol

18:00

oops

18:00

thanks for kms server

18:02

THANKS!!!!!

@ImSwordQueen u know how i get rid of winstore?

18:15

and onedrive

18:15

cant uninstall them

Remove the shortcuts

don't you delete the windows store from c:/windows?

And filemanager for onedrive

18:17

Winstore is a little tricky

18:17

As deleting it would nuke all apps

8.0 is fine without store, 8.1 is where it goes haywire

18:19

still questioning the reasoning behind making photos, camera and onedrive system apps

For winstore remove all the resources except WinstoreUI.dll WSHost.exe WSSLs.dll WinstoreUI.WinMD pris en-us appxmanifest.xml appxblockmap.xml appxsignature.p7x and resources.pri

18:20

And Microsoft.system.package.metadata

18:20

Without these

18:21

Start screen commits die

18:21

And would break other shit

ImSwordQueen

For winstore remove all the resources except WinstoreUI.dll WSHost.exe WSSLs.dll WinstoreUI.WinMD pris en-us appxmanifest.xml appxblockmap.xml appxsignature.p7x and resources.pri

But how do I know which resources to delete

18:21

what folder

ex7forw8 for 8.1, coming: never

winstore folder

18:22

Literally you said the folder before

Scamdisk

ex7forw8 for 8.1, coming: never

Unless you make it redirect all dlls to clones trol

but then again, the only reason that doesnt work on 8.1 is due to well, leftovers been gone from shell32

18:22

based

Not very stable on 9299 tho

18:23

Crashes after a bit

18:23

on 9271 however

18:24

yeah it works perfectly on that

@Scamdisk sorry for ping but how do i make a wim image out of a full windows installation from windows 8.1

20:19

I tried this but it didn't work (yes i have both drives)

20:19

(and yes they are positioned as they are

20:20

nvm but nvm

/Capture-Image

20:26

not capture-image

ah

20:27

20:29

Missing the space in d:\ and /name

how do i type it out then

20:30

pls

20:30

i will probably do smth wrong

20:31

@ImSwordQueen pls i have to go to sleep soon

Literally put a space

what about /name

You typed

type the full command

d:\/name (edited)

20:32

Ok fucker removed \

just type the whole command how it should go

You have to put a space there

20:33

By pressing the spacebar

20:36

20:38

I have to go.

literally troll

There's no d:\ path

i hate people who take a picture of an error message and ask for help without reading it

22:07

THE SYSTEM CANNOT FIND THE FILE SPECIFIED!!!

22:07

FIGURE OUT WHERE THE FILE IS

22:07

CHECK THE PATH!!!

14:00

I did it

14:00

I made my own custom Windows 8.1 ISO

14:01

Good it works

14:02

Only issue is space

️

14:12

I did disk cleanup, deleted %temp%, temp and SoftwareDistribution folders and it is still like this

Deleted User

I did disk cleanup, deleted %temp%, temp and SoftwareDistribution folders and it is still like this

try dism component cleanup

14:12

it takes a while but may yield good results

huh

14:12

I should

14:12

How do I do it

dism.exe /online /cleanup-image /startcomponentcleanup (as admin) (edited)

14:13

it deletes old and unneeded files from winsxs

Alright thanks

@skip any other way? this freed up a few gigs but is there any other trick you know?

15:21

windows is still 12gb

try using bleachbit?

15:22

but really 20 gigs for a windows c drive is very little

skip

try using bleachbit?

whats dat

skip

but really 20 gigs for a windows c drive is very little

some ppl will use this on low end pcs

Deleted User

whats dat

open source ccleaner alternative without adware

k found bleachbit

for linux and windows

Deleted User

some ppl will use this on low end pcs

i mean ideally you would run an os with updates

15:25

on a low end pc i would just use xp

15:25

if it cant run 8 with updates

only 300mb freed up

15:30

(idk how to change the language

https://mega.nz/file/zSAwFaDQ#zWlLkTAjlKdeJImnKTXdlVL7hscFCK08NtiFziIycds

4.43 GB file on MEGA

18:34

Done.

18:35

Gdrive is even slower last time I tried

Deleted User

https://mega.nz/file/zSAwFaDQ#zWlLkTAjlKdeJImnKTXdlVL7hscFCK08NtiFziIycds

Please try it out

18:36

Try Brave browser too (I disabled all Brave telemetry)

18:38

Deleted User

Click to see attachment 🖼️

16:10 monitor?

18:47

pretty close i guess.

Deformisani SAS

16:10 monitor?

nah just vm in windowed (edited)

oh

Deleted User

Try Brave browser too (I disabled all Brave telemetry)

why use chromium when you can have fifox

19:04

UPLOAD/ SPEED OF IT IS SO SLOW

19:06

how do i fix it

noted you did include it

Deleted User

UPLOAD/ SPEED OF IT IS SO SLOW

never had that issue so i dunno lol

I think it is because of Install.wim

then again my upload speed is naturally slow lol

Mine is not

high speed

Like, the iso takes forever to upload

i mean it should be quick

19:10

its compressed via ISO right?

19:10

so individual files shouldn't be an issue (i think?

WinDVD

its compressed via ISO right?

i just dragged in the install.wim into the iso

19:35

into the sources folde

19:35

r

firefox upload speed and stuff is much faster for me than on edge/chrome

interesting. the "app preview" tag is part of the splash screen

19:57

and not separate

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YEFXu7Ql6e54pSggtW9glu5fKx_LitGY/view?usp=sharing

Windows_LRCS_8.1_X64.iso

21:03

I did it

21:03

Had to use Chromium to upload because Firefox 88 does not upload

I give up on my ISO

20:41

if someone can give me a fancy way of making a staged wim out of a windows install pls ping me

LESS GOOOOO

chad

takes like 20 mins to install but it is blazing fast

11:22

cant wait to try it on my laptop lter (im in school rn)

wait when do you go to school?

12:21

cuz i just got home

Deleted User

cant wait to try it on my laptop lter (im in school rn)

dude just installed windows embedded 8 on a school PC

2

RaduTek

dude just installed windows embedded 8 on a school PC

nah i did this on main before i went to school lmao

13:14

but tht would of been funny if no one found out

@ImSwordQueen what happens if i disable wsstore service in msconfig in windows 8.1

idk

i will make a snapshot

17:25

still working

bad shot but

19:54

app preview trol

I reset my custom ISO project, but there is no diffrence except less stuff has been done, for example in last attempt i thought of using admin account as main but then i disabled it, now i dont have that stuff

Windows EmbeddedSlim LRCS 8.1 X64 V2 by BokeeXD https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LWNkHANjAb45utnSiPxOqwx8sjELlKnX/view?usp=sharing

Windows_EmbeddedSlim_LRCS_X64_V2.iso

https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/download/dotnet-framework/net481

Download .NET Framework 4.8.1 | Free official downloads

Downloads for building and running applications with .NET Framework 4.8.1 . Get web installer, offline installer, and language pack downloads for .NET Framework.

19:05

Ah shit here we go again

?

19:12

testing the funny patch for 8.0?

19:12

oh....

19:12

i see now....

Does it have any 8.0 cab in there

19:13

Or is it only 10/11 cabs

19:13

cant check rn

i will check

i don't see any cabs @Scamdisk

19:22

i'm using the online installer though

19:22

so i will check the offline one rn

use the offline one

19:22

it should have them

bad news

19:23

only 10/11

19:23

Guess they fixed my funny loophole by not supporting anything below 1607?

i guess so

19:24

i don't see any cabs related to anything older than 10

guess rip then

4.8 is the last one for pre-10

19:24

welp that's disappointing

guessing vs is no longer gonna support pre-1607 now (edited)

waiting for paint.net to update to not support 8.1 anymore

19:26

:oh:

19:27

Don't see anything pre-20H2 relating to 4.8.1 on the update catalog

19:29

inb4 they cut the previous 2 LTSB/LTSC releases to get people to upgrade

ah shit

19:29

so basically

19:29

anything older than vibrashit is out

:doom:

yep @Scamdisk

19:31

no mention of pre shitanium

19:32

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

lies

oofer_dww

lies

wouldn't be all lies if they use net 4.8.1 (edited)

thats it

20:10

switching to net 4.8.1 and saying they cant do it for older OS anymore cuz its hard is the lie (edited)

yep

20:12

that makes more sense

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

"so hard to maintain for 7!" bro just develop it like you've been doing since 2009 not hard at apl

22:01

all*

Doesn't paint.net use .net core nowadays

eh even the last xp version has all good fetures

06:19

should archive it

06:20

some 3.5 verison

3.5 doesnt have a lot of features too

06:30

it misses on being able to adjust the RADIUS of a rounded rectangle

06:30

fucking basic ass

what

06:42

i used paint.net 3.5 and it was fine

3.5. sucks

16:36

last vista version toi

4.0.11 based, final great version

20:02

32-bit support, proper icons, better performance and runs on anything even 32-bit oses

20:02

Anything newer is shit

i love 64 bit

22:37

the latest version of paint.net to run on 7 is the best

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

i love 64 bit

who needs more than 4gb ram

19:23

i dont

Deleted User

who needs more than 4gb ram

i do

ImSwordQueen

i do

wtf how u get that

19:37

running vms and mc

so u running vms now?

yeah?

ah thats why

it's still more than 4gb

i can give 2gb to vm and it will run fine

so your point is invalid

19:39

without a vm but still having mc on i still have 5gb used (edited)

not even ddr something, its "other" now

20:08

barisberat

Click to see attachment 🖼️

cringe

Deleted User

cringe

do you even have "other" ram?

20:11

like task manager doesnt wanna say ddr something

20:11

just "other"

barisberat

Click to see attachment 🖼️

meh

20:11

drifting disk device

20:11

ddd

20:11

3D

barisberat

meh

tf u mean meh initial d only good anime /jk (edited)

barisberat

Click to see attachment 🖼️

wait, actual Japanese readability or just using Japanese for the lols before switching it bacc? (edited)

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

wait, actual Japanese readability or just using Japanese for the lols before switching it bacc? (edited)

i know windows very well, i can use it in japanese if i add a second keyboard layout to use

20:31

cuz the default there is always "microsoft ime"

tbh I would switch to Japanese as an additional language, but... I'd rather learn all the letters and shit enough to memorise and read them first. (edited)

20:32

though I have already pre-emptively installed Japanese onto Feren OS in case that day comes.

barisberat

do you even have "other" ram?

bruh, so many things wrong with this 1. 2gb ram in 2022 2. japanese windows hurts eyes

20:34

baris please upgrade ram this is cringe

logic moment

i use windows with 4gb ram and its fine

oofer_dww

bruh, so many things wrong with this 1. 2gb ram in 2022 2. japanese windows hurts eyes

2. not really.

20:41

It's Windows, not a 16-bit- game

4gb ram is fine

21:08

but 2?

21:08

bruh

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

2. not really.

2. yes really.

does the language blare your eyes

its writing does when its everywhere

21:11

i mean like in batches in some settings page etc.

oofer_dww

but 2?

i used 2 gb ram. it was ok ish.

i agree, at least it could run windows 10

21:28

or 11

barisberat

does the language blare your eyes

japanese looks funny

i used windows 10 with 2 gb ram for many years

22:00

11 once with 2 gb and it was stable. once with 1gb and it was slow as hell

VM in 2gb ram pc troll

its actually usable (edited)

22:32

you would probably be using xp with that amount of ram in a pc.

i used xp on my 2gb ram pc

22:33

because really thats what needs to be done on a 2gb ram pc

i used 2 gb ram in windows xp (real hardware) and it was okay

22:34

although the cpu and gpu in the xp machine that i have suck dicks

22:34

the cpu on it is overclocked at 1.75 ghz which is nice

22:35

but the agp card is a nightmare.

22:35

it runs half life 2 at max settings flawlessly. gta sa (somehow) runs not so great on max settings

22:35

even vice city which i wasn't expecting

22:35

also i know that this is the wrong channel

bro

22:36

i had a q35 chipset

22:36

integrated

22:36

now that is a real nightmare for you

Deformisani SAS

11 once with 2 gb and it was stable. once with 1gb and it was slow as hell

even on a hard drive it ran fine for me lmao (when i used it on my laptop)

05:16

only booting is slow as hell

05:16

win11 21h2

i used the leaked build last year with 2 gb ram

Might finish my 64 bit ISO today, throat no longer hurts!

1

@Scamdisk ie 11

you fucked it up

11:08

sigh

Scamdisk

you fucked it up

fucked up what

11:09

why doesnt it uninstall

oofer_dww

because really thats what needs to be done on a 2gb ram pc

by your logic any computer that has 2gb of ram must run XP

12:56

and not something like windows 10 (edited)

13:00

literally all you need to do is to disable windows defender (edited)

13:00

that makes it a bit more usable

literally all you need to do is debloat win10 to oblivion and then use it

get this, some apps are dropping support for 7, they already did with xp/vista

13:11

.net framework 4.8.1 only supports windows 10 vb and up, paint.net 5 will only support recent windows 10 and 11 versions etc. (edited)

who wants to use cli only

14:02

bruh

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

or just use a lightweight window manager

14:03

i have been using an old travelmate with a 1.7 ghz single core celeron m and 2 gigs of ram for some light stuff (debian with openbox) (edited)

14:03

works okay

theres already a cli only windows

14:04

windows server core

14:04

everything runs on cmd

do i look like a long bearded thinkpad-using gentoo-praising fatass dwelling in his moms basement to be living in a terminal (edited)

or late 2000s-early 2010s cpu

14:06

one says use windows xp other says use cli linux (edited)

14:07

all you need is modern apps

cli linux sucks

oofer_dww

literally all you need to do is debloat win10 to oblivion and then use it

I like Revi for that task. Any time I've tried to de-bloat it by hand, something ends up funny

15:32

But yes, it's basically 8 without its theme engine once nuked a few times

15:33

I've been experimenting with Windowblinds with good results. I'll show later

15:33

Still not as polished as 8.1, though. Never will be

wasnt there also an alternative like revios

15:34

i forgot the name

15:35

That's on 21h2, Revi specifically

15:36

This is how I see it with. With 10, you have to lock it down and use it in a static state. If you one day need a newer build, reinstall it

15:36

The update policy is just not usable

15:36

Strip it out entirely, and it's okay

15:40

I'll share everything I've done, once I finish it

docR

Click to see attachment 🖼️

bc of windows vista ui works with uwp settings, it can be ported on windows vista

Deleted User

bc of windows vista ui works with uwp settings, it can be ported on windows vista

what

Come again?

18:54

You mean the Aero frames in UWP?

18:55

Yeah it looks okay. Fortunately it's just the settings. I made it uwp-less otherwise

i dunno, that quick launch do be looking kinda fucked

it's going to heaven

So uh, Windows 8.1 is indeed useful if I am about to switch to Windows 10 after I get a new PC

18:14

Since Windows 10 uses some 8.1 elements

Sooo.... are you saying you'll stay on Windows 8.1 or move to Windows 10?

Well, I'll stay on Windows 8.1 until I get a new PC

RostiTheGamer

Well, I'll stay on Windows 8.1 until I get a new PC

stay on windows 8.1. don't use 10

But I'm not sure if the new PC can support 8.1

19:12

Since I need drivers for that

programs like paint.net will yank the windows 7 and 8.1 support out (in the case of paint.net, it will happen at version 5 or maybe 4.4) (edited)

RostiTheGamer

But I'm not sure if the new PC can support 8.1

what will be new pc

this looks so offputting

that looks terrible

nothing more than an intense design clash (edited)

23:20

looks fine

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

this looks so offputting

So beautiful and it even works on windows 7

01:03

jk

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

this looks so offputting

surprised that the latest Office 365 still works on Windows 8

https://mega.nz/folder/vLAilQST#ZmY9Aqgii3W2oDlpKQvs5A

7.25 GB folder on MEGA

2 files

08:59

I decided to rename V3 version of 32 bit to no V version and V2 to no version because both are mostly stable now

09:00

both have most of the features and they run very very fast

09:00

also disabled stuff like windows update and all because resources

Deleted User

also disabled stuff like windows update and all because resources

yea u dont really need windows updates to stay safe

09:07

u just need common sense its all that saves you from malware

^

skip

yea u dont really need windows updates to stay safe

only updates installed are kb2919422 and kb2919355

Deleted User

only updates installed are kb2919422 and kb2919355

what are those

skip

what are those

first one some security update idk and another one is update 1

09:59

that first one needs to be installed before update 1

oh

09:59

well idk im using fully updated 8.1 industry pro and im ok with the performance

09:59

most of the resources is taken up by the apps i use which is good

ye u either have good hardware or dont use it daily

sometimes the update checker or antivirus may screw up the performance like cpu or disk usage

Deleted User

ye u either have good hardware or dont use it daily

its a crappy 2007 core 2 duo and 4 gb of ddr2 ram

that u dont daily

ye

actually thats not bad

10:00

4gb ram

well i use it often but its not my main pc

10:01

im using it rn in bed

RaduTek

surprised that the latest Office 365 still works on Windows 8

It’s windows 7

11:38

Windows 8 is out of suppor so office 2019 won’t work on Asian computer

11:40

hope you aint doing crack

it's out of suppor

12:03

he forgor

Deleted User

Windows 8 is out of suppor so office 2019 won’t work on Asian computer

what

12:03

oh u mean 8.0

12:04

ye

also office 365 on 8.0 still works

Deleted User

It’s windows 7

no lol its 8 with a win7 theme

Deleted User

It’s windows 7

hey read the channel name

Deleted User

It’s windows 7

Literally says Build 9600

17:42

7 is 7601

17:42

or 7600 if you somehow use RTM

Don't be snarky here. Also, it's fine dw about it

https://youtu.be/rWh1F2yw2fE

Hardcore Software

Microsoft Windows 8—Prototype and planning sketch / demonstration (...

me: i want windows 8

18:03

my mom: we already have windows 8 at home

Scamdisk

https://youtu.be/rWh1F2yw2fE

windows 8:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlSnq8ThHpU

Hardcore Software

Windows 8—Team Meeting Finale (2010)

that prototype metro ui in the thumbnail looks kinda cool imo

06:59

reminds me of rainmeter

can anyone with copies of a ton of early 8.0 builds tell me which one was the first to have wallpaperhost.exe

non server: 7814

i love you

06:52

could you throw me a copy of it?

06:52

testing to see if it'll run on 7

okay hold on

(wallpaperhost is very useful, it's the wallpaper setting part of explorer minus the explorer)

06:53

(super useful with alternative shells that don't manage it at all (early progman) or very well (current progman))

WallpaperHost.exe

9.5 KB

i believe it works

06:53

only one way to test

06:57

the way to test doesn't work because progman's too good at re-setting the wallpaper

06:57

time to set default shell to winfile

07:00

does not work

07:00

damn

07:00

not in the way i expected atleast

I'm fucking tired of Windows 8

11:47

Every fucking day I get a BSOD because memory management like I don't fucking know how

11:47

Now I wanna move to Windows 7

you'll get stuff like that on win8 on various machines

use vista

DeRosenberg

Every fucking day I get a BSOD because memory management like I don't fucking know how

21:03

never got bsod

Deleted User

Click to see attachment 🖼️

he's prob using 8.0

ah

yeah

DeRosenberg

I'm fucking tired of Windows 8

Then don’t use it damnbro

there’s other oses out there

windows vista

3

i found one yay

lol

I've made one of the possibly most poggers discoveries for Personalisation:

22:58

Put this into your UIFILE for themecpl.dll, over the respective code:

<Button resid="ThemeGalleryTheme" sheet="PersonalizationHubStyle" class="ThemeButton" accstate="0x00100000" layout="VerticalFlowLayout(0,2,2,2)" tooltip="true">
<Element id="atom(Thumbnail)"/>
<Element id="atom(Name)" layoutpos="none"/>
</Button>

22:58

and enjoy: 6608-styled Personalisation (edited)

22:59

@docR

23:03

Does this give you 6801 colors rather than the 7 ones?

no

01:36

it gives you a 6608-styled personalization page

I like RTM better, in this case

03:18

i dont like how theme names were not displayed in 6801

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

I've made one of the possibly most poggers discoveries for Personalisation:

personalization *

brother its 6608

06:07

Not 6801

Oh, my bad

06:52

I thought 6608 and 6801 used the same personalization style?

docR

Does this give you 6801 colors rather than the 7 ones?

No, that's another mod entirely.

13:16

(Though you do get Windows Vista's window colours in the TP this mod is in)

13:17

(unless you go for DS!Delta, in which case Vista Beta 2's window colours instead)

windows 8.0.9 flush

apparently microsoft broke wifi on 8.0

21:53

as trying to connect to a wifi network just fails

ImSwordQueen

apparently microsoft broke wifi on 8.0

21:56

--imswordking, 2022

ok now explorer bootloops

well now it's about figuring out which updates do it

do they just shove 8.1 updates on 8.0 without testing what they actually do or what

07:15

8.0 seems fucked

@Scamdisk the 2021-02 iso doesn't have the problem

08:22

So you only got 10 updates that can have the problem

we know 2021-03, 2021-04 and 2022-05 have the wallpaper bug

08:39

also so far no updates that bring in the wallpaper bug after 2022-05

08:41

Servers and Embedded systems don't use wifi so guess they broke it by accident and decided that they won't fix it

08:42

just like with the wallpaper bug

oh so you fuck with the esus for server os

09:31

makes sense

Server 2012 is still supported lmao

oh

yeah both Server 2012s have the same lifecycle because MS moment

amd

16:48

this driver makes it go to the desktop

16:48

then it crashes

Anyone have a way of bypassing the unsupported hardware thing that appears on kaby lake in windows update for 8.1?

https://m.majorgeeks.com/files/details/wufuc.html

wufuc

07:43

@Hu Ma Gawd

I think I have that installed already, but I’ll redownload from that link and see

08:02

Does not work

Damn

08:19

I guess you can disable windows update

wusa and dism should still work (edited)

09:42

unless they show the same prompt

or you could just

11:19

use linux

11:19

and win10 ltsc

linux alone should be enough

11:34

create vm for windows if you really need it

Hu Ma Gawd

Does not work

"unsupported hardware"

18:39

get ready for windows 10

skip

use linux

skip. please don't become a femboy

linux != femboy

18:59

"The Linux Community" = femboy

However

18:59

The Linux Community = mostly toxic

yes

skip

and win10 ltsc

fuck 10

oofer_dww

"The Linux Community" = femboy

but if you install linux you have to join the linux community

ImSwordQueen

but if you install linux you have to join the linux community

no you dont

19:07

first you have to be a redditor

19:07

only then can you join the linux community

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

fuck 10

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/688818898664947817/1034183121819664424/MemeFeedBot13.mp4

unironically 10 ran like shit on my craptop

19:51

meanwhile 8.1 ran amazing

19:51

and it was ltsc so fuck 10

Sounds like in denial

21:38

Of service

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

contradictory statement

^^

it was an iso issue

03:22

also wufuc just doesn't work anymore

03:23

I reinstalled with imswordking's iso and used WuaCpuFix

WuaCpuFix.7z

59.82 KB

ImSwordQueen

but if you install linux you have to join the linux community

i hate linux communities

05:07

theyre all very toxic

05:07

the only friendly one is like

05:07

the linux mint forums

05:07

and bunsenlabs forums

05:07

bunsenlabs is an awesome distro

Hu Ma Gawd

it was an iso issue

What iso did you use?

05:08

(the faulty one)

The one I originally used was skip’s updated 8.1 embedded iso

Skip issue trollface

1

скип ишью (edited)

skip

i hate linux communities

So OS communities. Got it trollface

15:36

But yeah the "hardcore" Linux communities are very silly lol

15:36

But that's just about any interest group

15:37

Mint forums are fairly helpful though, or forums for other debian/ubuntu spins. It's the Archheads lol

15:37

I've encountered some very friendly people on the Ubuntu mate forums, or peppermint, Spatry

15:38

It's the more purist Linux folk that tip their fedoras in shame at you

15:38

Like Vincent the Athe.... I mean Arch user

15:38

I'm mostly kidding btw, Arch is fine lol

ImSwordQueen

Skip issue trollface

i dont have any 7th gen intel pcs and if i did, why would i want to install 8.1 on them

15:41

its most likely some monthly rollup that patched the workaround

it worked with my iso

15:41

so skip issue trol

i wasnt able to test it on a 7th gen intel?

are back !!!!

7 - 8.1 is what I would install on 7th gen intel

21:43

or macos I guess

also I'm working on fluent8 again

22:00

I've been using this system as a development machine for it

Nite is back

ye

22:03

no kernelxe yet btw

22:03

I want to finish fluent8 and vista sp3 first

vista exkern.... x86 ...

Hu Ma Gawd

also I'm working on fluent8 again

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

vista exkern.... x86 ...

dikord..amdee dirver,

Dont care, novideo beter,, no nees dicker, hav ripcord, need Stem

STEM

Steame

i love fluent8!!!!

13:07

no igpu, no internal wifi, no fingerprint sensor, no touchpad, no funny thing windows 11 "requires", but other than those, it seems to be working fine? (edited)

ImSwordQueen

You don't need pirated sib+ if you use 8.1

Already have SIB+ installed, so the activation is indeed broken. I hope I can use it forever

ImSwordQueen

As activation is broken

I wonder why activation is broken?

how tf am i supposed to know

also may sound stupid, but does the 8.0 sib also have the same bug

nope

16:28

only 8.1 does

very odd

i want to do a little bit of trolling and make a forum post about startisback being broken on 8.0

17:36

oh hi xim

Scamdisk

no igpu, no internal wifi, no fingerprint sensor, no touchpad, no funny thing windows 11 "requires", but other than those, it seems to be working fine? (edited)

I wonder if the 22.6.1 driver for windows 7 can be made to work with those modern integrated gpus

ImSwordQueen

oh hi xim

hello

sus xim

Hu Ma Gawd

I wonder if the 22.6.1 driver for windows 7 can be made to work with those modern integrated gpus

it could be, if you modify the shit of it

i wonder if the same method to bring "modern" amd drivers would work on 8.1

17:38

but that requires ci patching

and if someone is willing to do that, may as well fix the damn driver on 8.0 kthanks /s but still

or forever test mode

Scamdisk

and if someone is willing to do that, may as well fix the damn driver on 8.0 kthanks /s but still

need too

17:39

amd support be like: 2 months max for gpus but almost 10 for some stupid low spec cpu + gpu combo

17:39

obviously it kills 8.0

tbf the watermark can be hidden with uwd and it's also the funny antigenshin trol

8.1 and 10240 with modded shell32 be like: no metro 4 u

17:41

i wonder how many other dlls would cause the same issue

meanwhile 8.0 doesn't give a shit about how much shell32 is modded

8.0 based

it will have an angerism if you mod basebrd without the mui trick however

17:42

by angerism I mean activation commiting die

actually. shell32 would be a problem for a hypothetical 8.1 extended kernel

I had to do the mui trick for a few different files already for fluent8

oh well. more reasons to make a 8.0 extended kernel trol

There's the shell32a.dll trick, but that isn't fool proof

ImSwordQueen

oh well. more reasons to make a 8.0 extended kernel trol

yes

Scamdisk

There's the shell32a.dll trick, but that isn't fool proof

but then. death of metro

17:44

8to7 discoveries!

like I said, not fool proof

yeah sadly

8.0 been easier to mod is why it should get the ext kernel treatment before 8.1

17:45

still, explorer :doom:

also adding 8.1 functions to 8.0 would be a good place to start for an extended kernel

can't you port vxkex to 8.0?

17:46

or would that be pointless

honestly a vxkex like extended kernel makes way more sense on 8 than 7

7 got more SW support than 8, but then again, it's mostly artificial blocks

it's only on 7 because haha. 7 more cool than 8

and most of them are because funny .net 4.8

legit i'm still surprised that vista got an extended kernel before 7

17:50

because well.... 7 being more popular than vista

Scamdisk

and most of them are because funny .net 4.8

isn't 8.0 support now almost the same as 7's?

17:51

that now you got net 4.8 working

yes

17:52

tbf .net 4.8 working is thanks to the fact WE8S exists and is still supported enough for .net 4.8 to support it (edited)

17:53

4.8.1 tho :doom:

17:53

I tried getting it to work on 1709, no dice

17:53

used server 1709 so I could easily tell it wasn't working because Server Manager commiting die

17:54

back on the topic on hand

17:55

you still have to circumvent some artificial blocks

17:55

but even VS 2019 and 2022 up to 17.2.x run on 8.0

17:56

now if one would leak VS 17.2.x offline image to IA

17:56

or something

17:57

ah i remember a thing

17:58

@Hu Ma Gawd do you need a 8 logo style 11 drive icon?

no, I actually want to convert all the windows logos to the 11 style

oh right

ImSwordQueen

it's only on 7 because haha. 7 more cool than 8

i use 7 because of funny 8 bsods

even on 8.1?

Hu Ma Gawd started a thread. 28/10/2022 04:35

@Scamdisk scamdisk

00:36

what's the first amd driver to kernel security check failure on 8.0 (edited)

It may be the version after crimson 16.9.1

@Scamdisk sorry for the ping but what modules should i install on 8.0 for 4.8?

19:48

ok checking far back i found the packages needed

net 4.8

nice

how do i make discord not say my installation is corrupt

04:21

on s2k12

ask it politely

Vruh 2

how do i make discord not say my installation is corrupt

Enable the qwave service

Tank

Scamdisk

Enable the qwave service

this service does not exist

you gotta install it from Server Manager first

ah

16:27

there

16:27

now it's good

@Scamdisk is there a way for me to play any fucking video at all on s2k12

20:03

i can't play anything on instagram

20:03

half of the videos in youtube don't play

20:03

i've already installed klite

20:04

and enabled qwave

Did you install desktop experience

well yeah

20:04

i think ?

20:04

is this not the desktop experience

can't tell if there's no store or something

it doesn't let me install the desktop experience on server manager

20:04

or atleast i cant find it

20:05

there is no windows store uhh

it has to be somewhere in GUI or whatever

20:07

found it

20:07

20:11

mkay now it works

20:11

thanks

21:19

no minesweeper

21:20

also solitaire can still get achivements what

@tyl0413 idk

foreign

Honestly im surprised it even connected

23:12

And could play

why is my xbox connecting fine

23:37

we do a little metro modding

ah yes, 8250ish

IT WAS HERE. THE WHOLE TIME

it controls the IE tile color (edited)

17:40

on metro apps it's in appxmanifest

after 13 hours 8.1 explorer does this

22:42

22:43

22:44

text going to brazil

22:58

this is a 8.1 moment

what

23:08

does it legit corrupt on having uptime

23:08

i once ran windows 7 for nearly a month straight

23:08

uptime that is

explorer dies

23:10

until themefix kicks up

23:10

or restarting explorer

23:10

also i have sib so it might affect shit

Vruh 2

i once ran windows 7 for nearly a month straight

i ran it 100% cpu for 33 days

23:50

nothing went wrong

Ik that explorer will put out a error after a while of uptime if restarted on 7

it works, just trying to open up a folder or whatever will result in some error

ImSwordQueen

text going to brazil

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/992812059576250432/992812106476966028/brazil.mp4

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Wouldn't recommend looking into those sources, for the good of humanity

Can confirm

07:04

It's really that bad

I miss using Windows 7 on my Mac Mini. But hey, at least Windows 8.1 (especially Embedded 8.1) runs a bit faster than 7!

15:43

Even if there is no Shutdown sound, the system is pretty fast!

RostiTheGamer

I miss using Windows 7 on my Mac Mini. But hey, at least Windows 8.1 (especially Embedded 8.1) runs a bit faster than 7!

Whos stopping ya from using 7

RostiTheGamer

I miss using Windows 7 on my Mac Mini. But hey, at least Windows 8.1 (especially Embedded 8.1) runs a bit faster than 7!

Is it running a bit faster better than actually having 7 on it?

I guess

But if I reinstall Windows 7, I have to reinstall the updates.

17:43

But after I installed a modified Windows 8.1 Embedded ISO, it has all the updates

RostiTheGamer

But if I reinstall Windows 7, I have to reinstall the updates.

you can just get an updated iso... lol

23:56

or build one, or use the esu tool, there's many ways

Oh right

05:08

But I decided to switch to Windows 8.1, since it is still supported

it wont be after 2 months

11:34

some apps are cutting both windows 7 and 8.1 support alltogether

RostiTheGamer

But I decided to switch to Windows 8.1, since it is still supported

Well then you’re gonna have to switch to another os pretty soon lol

most apps are gonna cut off 7 and 8.x support at the same time

14:36

i say most because funny haha chromium moment

16:53

based

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

i mean vmware 16 didnt work on 7 either i think

I think SwordKing implies the windows 8 part

1

skip

i mean vmware 16 didnt work on 7 either i think

unofficially it works on 7

the motherboard came with a 10 key not 8.1 :(

i got lucky with an HP oem key for 8.1 lol

anyone have good ways to find "REAL AND LEGITIMATE PRODUCT KEYS" (WINK WINK) for Windows 8.1

04:39

please dm if so

IGNORE THE ABOVE MESSAGES

07:08

now i wanna hear windows gamers what themes do you have for windows 8.1

07:08

how can i spice up my life

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

now i wanna hear windows gamers what themes do you have for windows 8.1

AERO GLASS FOR WINDOWS 8 AND 8.1

07:15

WINDOWS 8 RP THEME

THANKS skipst er wher e can if ind these program and them

07:15

NOOO

hold on i have a repack

07:16

without watermark ‼️

07:18

damn 64mb on mobile data

Please lord skip

07:20

aero 8 without watermark

07:20

blessing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/14dHrQEXqDAoVMIxNp1-K8gglDvAmQqyP/view?usp=drivesdk

DWMGlass 0.25.zip

07:24

@Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

07:24

enjoy this fine piece of software

i love you

07:28

which one?

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

which one?

run setup.cmd and it will install the best one for your build

07:31

damn bro

glad i was quick

false positive i use that thing myself

yeah mb was bitching about it too

07:33

lookin snazzy

07:33

thank you skip

pog

07:33

also you can use classic shell to change the taskbar texture to aero

07:33

i had a texture laying around

ima just run a theme

@skip can you reupload it on anonfiles or smth

hold on imma password it

ImSwordQueen

@skip can you reupload it on anonfiles or smth

https://drive.google.com/file/d/14mpllGxReL2trKSzCokJmcM8SrIe0P27/view?usp=drivesdk

DWMGlass 0.25.zip

09:25

enjoj

09:25

password is hentai

skip

password is hentai

RaduTek pinned a message to this channel. 21/11/2022 16:21

@Mack Daddy of Heimlich County https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/996215367863119872/1028805654649000026/unknown.png

21:38

21:39

wipness goes brrr https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/996215367863119872/1015751793940119622/unknown.png

21:39

but that's not all...

21:40

i'm the creator of the pack trol

(edited)

21:41

Windows 8 To Windows Vista Transformation Pack (& DS!Delta), by someone who isn't Sword. (edited)

what they done to ma boi win8???

Media Center and WMP rextures also not by sword, ig, using a few resources from FediaFedia's XP WMP11 skin. (edited)

skip

what they done to ma boi win8???

made it look amazing.

21:43

this gives me pain

(theme is a WIP and got rebased, hence why it looks worse than above screenshots)

21:44

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

Click to see attachment 🖼️

kudos to anyone who gets the reference the blue bar-thingy makes (edited)

windows cleveland

skip

windows cleveland

nope

21:46

oh, and one of the coolest boasts of them all:

21:46

I literally ported every single view icon to .ico, just for this pack, as Windows 8.x changed them to .icos (edited)

21:47

o yeah, Start's also planned to look something like this in DS!Delta: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/996215367863119872/1001279920053424148/unknown.png

21:47

I just lost my Classic Shell skin file, though, so need to redo it from scratch in the future :v (edited)

this is painful why would you do that to win8

why wouldn't you (edited)

21:48

Vista looks sex as heck (edited)

no

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

Click to see attachment 🖼️

@Mack Daddy of Heimlich County behold, in all its work-in-progress glory. (edited)

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

o yeah, Start's also planned to look something like this in DS!Delta: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/996215367863119872/1001279920053424148/unknown.png

this is a glowing example of why i dont use custom themed windows

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

o yeah, Start's also planned to look something like this in DS!Delta: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/996215367863119872/1001279920053424148/unknown.png

Fantastic work

hyrrgnhhh vista

oofer_dww

this is a glowing example of why i dont use custom themed windows

?

2 heavy on my eyes

hello from windows 8.1 on ryzen

07:17

on a vhd though rn

07:18

took a bit of time to find wifi drivers

07:22

nice

07:22

and the screen has brightened up too

ok all done

apu uses 2,06gb ram?

oofer_dww

2 heavy on my eyes

To be fair, that's just a probable example of how Vista could have looked.

14:38

It's based on legitimate mockups and implementations

14:39

(Well, except Welcome Screen being blue - made that decision 'cos it matched the design better than green did - based on the blue sidebar) (edited)

14:42

Honestly really like how the blueification turned out

14:43

'cos it contrasts neatly with the OG AERO Spinner design

oofer_dww

apu uses 2,06gb ram?

yes, but you can normally change that

15:03

typically i set it to 512 mb of ram

upgrade to 16gb lol

Honestly really like how the blueification turned out

@That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes I want that background

RayZen

nice

did you install the 7 drivers or 10 ones?

win5270

did you install the 7 drivers or 10 ones?

7 ones

RayZen

hello from windows 8.1 on ryzen

what the heck, how did u get gpu drivers?

04:20

i have 5450u in my laptop and i want something better than win10

RayZen

on a vhd though rn

o

Michael

what the heck, how did u get gpu drivers?

https://winraid.level1techs.com/t/solution-win-7-win8-1-x64-ryzen-apu-video-driver/34203

[Solution] Win 7/Win8.1 x64 Ryzen APU Video driver

Thanks to a big guy who provided me with the motherboard and CPU test. This test borrowed A320 and B450 motherboards from 4 motherboard manufacturers, and 6 CPUs of 200GE / 2200G / 2400G / 3000G / 3200G / 3400G. Scores, games, and heterogeneous computing all work fine. The driver does not require kernel modification, so it is more stable to use...

docR pinned a message to this channel. 24/11/2022 07:05

Nice find, man

07:06

Post it in #software and ping me, I'll pin it there

how about 4000 series?

AMD HD 4000

2

1

07:07

what about 5000 series?

skip

how about 4000 series?

also works iirc

09:17

but dunno about 5000 series

09:18

i'm on 3000 series so i dunno

09:18

on athlon 3000g and this ryzen 5 3500u it works very well

anyway i wouldnt wanna run 7 or 8.1 on my gaming laptop

09:18

win10 ltsc all the way

skip

anyway i wouldnt wanna run 7 or 8.1 on my gaming laptop

for citra the newer drivers that are only on 10 work better (edited)

skip

win10 ltsc all the way

meanwhile me

09:34

it surprisingly works very well here

RayZen

for citra the newer drivers that are only on 10 work better (edited)

isn't that epic

09:57

there is super small lag but it's shader related stuff

09:57

so it doesn't appear after doing something in the game once

noice

rip alphadream tho

10:00

(they were responsible for all mario & luigi games)

10:02

they made the best mario games

RayZen

https://winraid.level1techs.com/t/solution-win-7-win8-1-x64-ryzen-apu-video-driver/34203

ah, I have seen this. doesn't work on 5450u

RayZen

7 ones

https://gbatemp.net/threads/windows-8-1-need-amd-radeon-vega-8-drivers-for-amd-ryzen-3-2200g-chipset.584734/page-2 someone modified the 10 ones and got them working here

[Windows 8.1] Need AMD Radeon Vega 8 Drivers for AMD Ryzen 3 2200G ...

So, it would be very much appreciated if someone could and wanted to contribute with a deeper and more detailed knowledge on how to mod for example latest Adrenalin 2020 Win 7 drivers to work for Win 8.1!! If it is possible at all...?? You can look into this guy. He's why I know how tedious...

20:00

did you have to modify the 7 ones to make them work on 8.1? @RayZen

"how to mod 7 adrenalin drivers to 8.1" ????? (edited)

20:11

have they ever heard of device management?

20:11

or did amd broke the drivers now

20:12

cause i know ive used 8.1 with 7 drivers no issue

win5270

did you have to modify the 7 ones to make them work on 8.1? @RayZen

no

20:26

why would 7 drivers not work on 8.1

win5270

https://gbatemp.net/threads/windows-8-1-need-amd-radeon-vega-8-drivers-for-amd-ryzen-3-2200g-chipset.584734/page-2 someone modified the 10 ones and got them working here

it's the same drivers that i have used

RayZen

why would 7 drivers not work on 8.1

i’ve seen some 7 drivers not work on 8.x before, like causing bluescreens

04:44

just was curious if these were like that

that was 8.0 not 8.1

rip 8.0

did you guys ever get the 3000 series rtx card drivers on 8.1? iirc they're 7 or 10+ only

07:22

asking for a friend

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

did you guys ever get the 3000 series rtx card drivers on 8.1? iirc they're 7 or 10+ only

afaik the 7 drivers work fine on 8.x

08:05

i think amd 7 drivers had issues on 8.0 though

8400 apps provisioned very

13:22

yeah this is a freshly created user

13:23

only copied the file that contained the app pin layout from 8400 over

how

the first image mostly tells you how

13:26

exported some reg shit from 8400 and the lics then shoved them into 9200 then copied over the WindowsApps folder

13:27

well after deleting the one with the 9200 apps

Huh

while the layout is not loaded

13:27

the apps are indeed installed

13:27

when a new user is created

You can make it load a custom layout iirc

13:27

For new accs (edited)

wscrack isn't even installed and the apps still work

13:28

because duh legit non bogus lic files

13:29

also the inboxapplications key contains what you would expect

13:29

store and settings

13:29

maybe making an app a system app would bypass some shit

13:31

ok made music into a system app and uninstalled the lic

13:39

now gotta see if it still works

13:40

nvm now it didn't install anything

haram

i think chromium 109?

110 is the first version that does not work

meanwhile latest firefox (108) still works

firepog

14:14

and nightly as well

real

why

03:42

just edit shell32.dll.mui

03:43

Edit the winver dialog itself

1. DPI Scalability (edited)

03:46

2. Funni branding

03:48

U hh

Plus they're remakes in SVG, so there's that benefit too

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

1. DPI Scalability (edited)

dpi is crigne

03:53

use 100%/96dpi always

Honestly, I can truly see why nobody has made a true Windows Vista transformation pack for Windows 8.x yet, because dang I had to do a lot of things no normal person would even fathom doing just to complete the look already so far.

03:55

Stuff like remaking all of Vista's view icons in .ico format, since Windows 8 changed them to ICOs, etc. (edited)

if you complete it i'll use it until vista hal intel 6th gen fixy

03:55

i am your n1 supporter

Also I guess legally obliged screenshot of more progress for the Normal aesthetic

why no text?

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

Also I guess legally obliged screenshot of more progress for the Normal aesthetic

Mainly that it finally has proper Control Panel sidebar textures

and has anyone found a workaround for the shorter close button in 8?

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

Mainly that it finally has proper Control Panel sidebar textures

oh shit the text is white too

03:57

good job

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

why no text?

Because prerelease Windows 7 (edited)

interesting

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

and has anyone found a workaround for the shorter close button in 8?

is this possible to fix or just is what it is?

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

Because prerelease Windows 7 (edited)

Sadly I couldn't do the reverse to bring back the titles under window colours - their labels do exist already but are never given a string value anymore

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

is this possible to fix or just is what it is?

@ImSwordQueen has gotten closest to serving a fix via a uDWM patch. (edited)

do you plan on making this an installer when you're done so it's easy one click for people w/o time to set it up proper?

Pretty sure he just hasn't found where lone button width is

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

do you plan on making this an installer when you're done so it's easy one click for people w/o time to set it up proper?

My dude,

03:59

That is the work of Win8To7-Backend-forked code. (edited)

awesome

04:00

will you be able to supply your own aeroglass optionally? or am i gonna have to reinstall the awesome cracked watermark-free one

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

That is the work of Win8To7-Backend-forked code. (edited)

Alongside having its own fork of Win8To7 Getting Started to get as close as possible in its codebase to Vista's one. Seen here in Delta aesthetic:

04:01

(resizing is disabled because WinForms fails spectacularly at flowing the controls properly while they're segmented here) (edited)

q: why is your user account name "ImSwordKing"

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

q: why is your user account name "ImSwordKing"

Same VM that made Win8To73.0

04:02

So, in case the username lands in compiles for that.

ah

Also repost of the goofy ahh IE reskin

04:04

Alongside some Vista programs

04:05

(and yes I figured out how the heck to pre-enable Quick Launch automatically)

04:05

(still need to figure out Taskbar Pins Nuking For Newly Created Users)

04:09

(Heck, still need to add crucial stuff like registering DLLs so a ton of the programs work sometime too)

does it have the windows media player deskband?

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

Alongside having its own fork of Win8To7 Getting Started to get as close as possible in its codebase to Vista's one. Seen here in Delta aesthetic:

amd epyc?

more like amd crynge

WinDVD

amd epyc?

5900hx running virt-manager*

06:18

tr

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

does it have the windows media player deskband?

That... I need to figure out readding. It might just be as simple as implementing the installer's Registry changes into this.

regsvr32 "C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player\wmpband.dll" regsvr32 "C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Media Player\wmpband.dll"

^

14:36

copy file, register dll, restart explorer

for all of wmp11 make sure to apply media patches+delegate execute patches with full ownership of hkcr

14:38

(these are found in xreunion160 archive)

Would be interesting to see how to implement that in an automatic way (edited)

can always do it while logged onto SYSTEM

14:39

tr

14:40

regular user taking full ownership of hkcr can lead to shitty results

14:40

so SYSTEM will be safer anyway

About registering the dlls i mean

oofer_dww

regsvr32 "C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player\wmpband.dll" regsvr32 "C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Media Player\wmpband.dll"

lol

14:42

easy

14:43

admin permission and command execution

14:43

also have to register the other wmp dlls in system32/syswow64

14:43

when they are replaced

You forgot that the command generated prompts each time @oofer_dww

14:50

So it's not going to be that automatic

add /s

14:51

and you no longer get prompts

Huh forgot that was a thing

oofer_dww

regsvr32 "C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player\wmpband.dll" regsvr32 "C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Media Player\wmpband.dll"

you don't say :P

19:22

it's literally inside the installer executable if you 7-Zip it

need a register tho

@That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes when winver fix

20:37

That ain't fixed

02:27

I wonder which files are behind displaying these screens (edited)

02:45

I want to try changing the font to segoe ui variable and maybe adding the win10x circle animation

Hu Ma Gawd

I wonder which files are behind displaying these screens (edited)

authui much?

I looked into authui and I found some things

03:16

so it seems like the circles are probably called "ModernProgressRing"

Yeah it's in authui on 8.x still

06:26

It got moved during 10's development (edited)

I have found some references to the animation there

07:31

but not the animation itself yet

07:34

also found references to Segoe UI in the code after looking at it in IDA

07:34

I'll try to find references in the resources, but if I can't, I'll change the code

Hu Ma Gawd

but not the animation itself yet

you'll find the animation in %WINDIR%\Fonts

ImSwordQueen

Would be interesting to see how to implement that in an automatic way (edited)

it's just as easy as adding OldNewExplorer, regarding DLL-installs

19:44

I'm just holding that back until I'm further into development on it

19:46

because it's gonna be tedious to write all the lines into code, 'cos it's copy&paste and translating of tons of lines of code into this (edited)

19:48

But, yeah...

19:48

the commands are there for me to add. (edited)

19:48

it's just the tedium of that that's holding it back until later into development. (edited)

With wmp11 install automation, it's either fuck up syspreping

19:51

or fuck up the entire system

uwu

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

you'll find the animation in %WINDIR%\Fonts

yes, that animation is literally a font

1

20:25

So if you somehow force it to use a more normal font, the animation will just end up been a square

20:25

you know, the missing shit kind

you have any idea what the file is called?

20:27

I looked in the fonts folder and didn't see any files with names relating to boot or animation

all the info i see online says the spinner's in one of the fonts

04:29

one guy asking about it says he read it's in segoe ui somewhere?

Because it's in the segoe ui family

1

Isn't there a Segoe icons font

1

Yes

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

one guy asking about it says he read it's in segoe ui somewhere?

athe52

Click to see attachment 🖼️

note that it all says "private use"

barisberat

note that it all says "private use"

private use means free unicode character

skip

private use means free unicode character

which is allocated by windows 8 and 10X spinners

8.1 Starter U1 almost complete

17:24

just missing one sku

Scamdisk

8.1 Starter U1 almost complete

Does it activate like rtm?

that damn CoreConnectedCountrySpecific

17:26

no i will not hack that shit up with shit from 10586

17:27

dism really doesn't want spanish gone

Spain without the s

yeah used that spanish coreconnectedsinglelanguage image as a base

17:31

well i mean it literally had almost all U1 exclusive skus

17:31

that aren't N

Wait why Spanish for starter u1?

not spanish

17:32

shoved a en-US langpack in

Oh

then gonna attempt to wipe the spanish

17:32

from it

Wait isn't there coreconnectedsinglelanguage in en-us?

17:33

Or would that just be core with bing? (edited)

coreconnectedsinglelanguage images only leaked in spanish and chinese simplified

Oh

and guess what, only the spanish one is on IA

i mean you don't wanna use chinese

17:34

For obvious reasons

also guess what, only coreconnectedsinglelanguage has an upgrade target to professionalstudent

17:34

yeah regular coreconnected doesn't

17:35

but the n variant does for professionalstudentn

17:35

so yes, by extension, professionalstudent also only leaked in those langs

17:35

but guess what, MS hosts shit for other langs

17:35

well some update

17:36

that literally shoves in branding for literally every lang on the U1 skus

And how is that related to starter?

the lp.cab files ms provide in those msdn isos don't have shit for those skus

Huh

17:40

so basically you can make complete starter u1

not really

17:40

remember, we don't have CoreConnectedCountrySpecific

17:40

so almost (edited)

Oh

17:41

Sad

then again, it won't work on any lang other than chinese unless you

‍

17:42

just like the regular CoreCountrySpecific

17:43

yes, that one is literally only there for completion reasons

17:46

and yes, it still activates

Windows 8.0.1.1 trol

maybe i should use this as a base when making an updated 8.1 iso

ofc sxs cleanup would work properly under 8.1

Scamdisk

ofc sxs cleanup would work properly under 8.1

dism++ sxs cleanup fucks up 8.x installs

11:02

further updates will fail

tried it with the only updates being the u1 stuff and it still worked

11:04

then again, i only did that to clean up spanish lp leftovers

Scamdisk

tried it with the only updates being the u1 stuff and it still worked

i mean trying to install a monthly rollup will fail

i see

just wait until 2023 troll

literally next month troll

yep

Private build of Win8ToVista 'cosynot (note: it's very incomplete) https://we.tl/t-YgVX1kEf0b (edited)

Win8ToVista Transformation Pack.exe

1 file sent via WeTransfer, the simplest way to send your files around the world

23:02

known issues and todo is (mostly) in the installer itself (I say mostly 'cos I likely forgot an item or two) (edited)

23:03

@RayZen :lqtroll:

"private build" KEKW

23:15

can you actually not be childish for once

this is literally a private server

23:16

lmao

23:16

so the saying holds true

23:17

plus there's no public source code for this TP (yet.)

23:17

there is nothing about it that is public right now, except for the contents of the link (something true for basically any 'private' thing that is internet hosted without password-requirements) (edited)

23:17

therefore, by definition:

23:17

It is a private build.

a private transformation pack is by all means incredibly childish to begin with

23:19

private project with original shit is something i get

23:19

but a windows TP?

23:20

this is literally vista kids' practice

23:21

if you truly cant bother using the "upload files" feature to commit changes on github i dont know what to say KEKW

23:21

(looking at our previous convo)

oofer

23:22

Those are 2 different things

23:22

This project isn't open source

23:22

Or well. It's forked from an open source project

oofer_dww

a private transformation pack is by all means incredibly childish to begin with

oofer, maybe you should consider one thing before making that claim:

23:22

"Is it incomplete?"

23:23

because it is currently incomplete.

23:23

By all means, it'll be public when completed, but right now it isn't because kids can't read warnings for crud

lmfao

23:23

is rav1e complete?

23:23

no

23:23

is it on xiph/rav1e on github?

23:23

yes

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

By all means, it'll be public when completed, but right now it isn't because kids can't read warnings for crud

this again

23:24

not even gonna bother

public != automatic open source

23:24

8to7 isn't open source

>non open source KEKW

You're using windows 7

i would be able to install linux if i didnt have 20gb space to backup my data into

??

meaning i only have 20gb free out of 6tb

so you were able to install Linux you didn't have 20gb of space ?

and my system disk (needs to be formatted) has 67gb data

23:27

that is important

Easy solution to fix the problem: don't store 300 copies of the same thing

no trash left in 6tb

ImSwordQueen

Easy solution to fix the problem: don't store 300 copies of the same thing

thoroughly cleaned already

Even removed arcane?

even tar'd up my shit to save space

If not

23:28

That's not truly cleaned

ImSwordQueen

Even removed arcane?

i dont remove rare downloads until i have mirrored them KEKW

23:28

dovi p5 release is basically non existent on google

Would honestly be good if it was lost media

or any public tracker

the whole thing i mean

ImSwordQueen

Would honestly be good if it was lost media

23:29

did you even watch it?

23:29

1/3 sucked but i mean the rest was fine

do you think I'm going to die without showering once?

oofer_dww

this again

Alright, have fun then asking people's questions on how to uninstall software you told them is not uninstallable yet.

23:30

Yeah, bet you would get just as tired of that as we are.

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

Alright, have fun then asking people's questions on how to uninstall software you told them is not uninstallable yet.

how to fix:

23:30

when installer starts

23:31

fill up the whole screen with a message

23:31

NOT UNINSTALLABLE DO NOT TRY TO UNINSTALL (edited)

oofer_dww

fill up the whole screen with a message

tell me you didn't read the original reply without telling me that

23:31

because guess what?

Oofer

hmm

Name 10 books

im dumb

23:31

2:30 am

(phew, they realised)

fixed

point is, I did that

23:32

and at least one person who got the link off someone else STILL had the guts to ask me how to uninstall it despite clicking a button that says, I kid you not, 'I UNDERSTAND THIS CANNOT BE UNINSTALLED YET, CONTINUE' (edited)

Infinite iq

anyway, my fault for not making it clear on the top message it's an incomplete build, so fixed that (regarding the earlier chat) (edited)

ImSwordQueen

Name 10 books

dede korkut communist manifesto eylül esrar-ı cinayat letaif-i rivayat ateşten gömlek vurun kahpeye macbeth sherlock holmes the railway children

(dang.)

want any more books?

500 more books

also here, for reference, here's the warning itself (edited)

sure when my eyes are not dying

23:36

do you call that huge simple to understand text?

yeah

23:36

the top part is huge

that fills up the whole screen?

23:36

press x to doubt

also it fills up the whole window

1

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

also here, for reference, here's the warning itself (edited)

Time to add a password system like you did to baka

which is quite big on 1920x1080-ish (edited)

not enough

23:37

kid doesnt read stuff in an installer window while giving a fuck unless you fill up the whole screen with gigantic text

23:37

you gotta do that

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

which is quite big on 1920x1080-ish (edited)

(heck, it'd probably fill near enough the whole screen on 1366x768 lmao)

oofer_dww

kid doesnt read stuff in an installer window while giving a fuck unless you fill up the whole screen with gigantic text

to be fair,

23:37

the button also says it in a nutshell (edited)

they dont read the button either

brb,

at least 4 year old me mindlessly clicked on unend thinking it was a next button

adding a prompt that asks them what YouTube was when it was created. troll

(edited)

i only figured it out when i was 5 to not do that

oofer_dww

at least 4 year old me mindlessly clicked on unend thinking it was a next button

That's kinda why it's not public and only released to a small percentage of people

ImSwordQueen

That's kinda why it's not public and only released to a small percentage of people

same here

oofer_dww

kid doesnt read stuff in an installer window while giving a fuck unless you fill up the whole screen with gigantic text

thats why you need to do this

I only did it 'publicly' in this server because y'all are privately contained in here (edited)

to release it to 100% of people

to be frank

He doesn't want to do that tho

when it's done it won't even have that page to begin with

23:39

and be publicly released

and when will it be done?

23:39

in valve time?

because at that point it'll actually be 100% done

oofer_dww

and when will it be done?

idk, still got other projects and life to balance

at least put source on github without prebuilts so we can build project

plus that whole todo list and potentially more

your average kid aint gonna build it

oofer_dww

at least put source on github without prebuilts so we can build project

8to7 backend trol

oofer_dww

at least put source on github without prebuilts so we can build project

to be frank if I cancel it, I'll release a build to everyone of it purely for archival (and demonstration) (edited)

23:41

this is windows 2007 all over again

and later get the source code uploaded, minus all the files that aren't mine, so that people can just remake it and continue it themselves

23:41

afterall, it isn't all that hard to get the files out of manually for reassembling from stripped source files (edited)

oofer_dww

this is windows 2007 all over again

wasn't that a pre-built iso tho

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

and later get the source code uploaded, minus all the files that aren't mine, so that people can just remake it and continue it themselves

and this is exactly what i meant from the beginning that your average kid isnt going to build this

yeah, but if I do it now...

that'd mean a complex setup

you're literally not making sense

of trying to make it so it strips the files before slapping it on a public repository

do you have grudge against manually committing changes?

8to7 isn't fully open source btw

while also pushing the non-stripped files to the private backup repo

oofer_dww

do you have grudge against manually committing changes?

no, and I literally do do that

23:43

it's just having to go through each 7-Zip file and strip it

and having to get the right EXEs replaced with dummies

23:43

EVERY

23:43

TIME

23:43

I push a change

ImSwordQueen

8to7 isn't fully open source btw

so not having a project not open source isn't a bad thing

and having to make sure it's in sync with any EXEs added or removed, etc.

i want to kill myself so badly due to blindness to obviousness rn

basically wasting time I could be using for literally anything else

Oofer

go to slep oofer

You're thinking that this project is going to be open source

you literally don't even make much sense rn

It's not going to be

ImSwordQueen

You're thinking that this project is going to be open source

i mean, yes and no.

ImSwordQueen

It's not going to be

and that doesnt make sense KEKW

the original form won't

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

i mean, yes and no.

MAYBE A 8TOVISTAbackend

but a version of it without all the files I don't own replaced/removed from it will be

But not the full thing

ImSwordQueen

MAYBE A 8TOVISTAbackend

yeah, literally that lmao

like 8to7 and 8to7backend

just somewhat lighter even

23:45

'cos out-right stripping the 7zs

time to jump off a balcony, see you later

since unlike Backend this one is purely meant for displaying the code that went into it and not examples of files contents (edited)

Oofer prefers to jump off a balcony instead of sleeping real

1

23:46

Honestly

23:46

I would do that too

ImSwordQueen

Oofer prefers to jump off a balcony instead of sleeping real

dont gotta sleep to read a tutorial on being so blind and understanding it

It's almost 1am and i have a test tommorrow

at the end of the day, I'd rather release the source code in a way that has longevity instead of risking being deleted due to a copyright strike or some crud instead.

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

since unlike Backend this one is purely meant for displaying the code that went into it and not examples of files contents (edited)

Wait wasn't backend to show the code ?

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

at the end of the day, I'd rather release the source code in a way that has longevity instead of risking being deleted due to a copyright strike or some crud instead.

>copyright strike

23:50

dont include non open source tools in source but put a txt on getting them in supposed folders

That's what he said ???

then?

23:51

failing to understand where copyright strike risk is coming from

ImSwordQueen

It's almost 1am and i have a test tommorrow

i have 2

It's not a race oofer

i know

oofer_dww

failing to understand where copyright strike risk is coming from

?

23:53

anyway gonna sleep now

ImSwordQueen

Wait wasn't backend to show the code ?

yep

oofer_dww

failing to understand where copyright strike risk is coming from

all the Microsoft Windows(R) Vista™️ files. (edited)

ImSwordQueen

Wait wasn't backend to show the code ?

...but also to guide and show examples of making a TP.

23:54

As if you compile it and install it you do have a partially transformed Windows installation. (edited)

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

also here, for reference, here's the warning itself (edited)

the white text on light background's terrible to read

01:23

add shadows or change the text color or background

oofer_dww

and that doesnt make sense KEKW

why make everything open source? if you don't like the way it's done then build a better program yourself

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

add shadows or change the text color or background

yeah I did try to tone that down

01:54

but there again the fact it preselects DS!Delta is a bug anyway

01:54

so in intentional usage that page would be seen over Vista's Setup background, thus being perfectly readable (edited)

there we go. Finally reverted the checked option.

02:07

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

all the Microsoft Windows(R) Vista™️ files. (edited)

can add only resource files and hack them into 8.1

That's the opposite of the whole project ?

06:54

everyone can hack files inside 8.1 and call that a day

06:54

But not everyone is able to make it automatic

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

@RayZen :lqtroll:

what

RayZen

what

i mean, there's a Beta 1-esque look in that

14:28

(which leans more-so on pre-Beta-1 and post-Beta-1 but still)

ohhh

14:29

cool

holy shit

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

Click to see attachment 🖼️

ngl the vista african sample music goes hard

Would look even better with 5259 task buttons

14:35

but its great

Scamdisk

Would look even better with 5259 task buttons

I mean... to be fair those're for the finalised Taskbar-style (edited)

no

14:35

if you look at the shine line

14:36

it's actually for the earlier 52xx taskbar

14:36

well, guess it might be worth a look I suppose, in that case then.

do need to go and obtain the 5270 Start Button resources anyway for all of the power button states

14:37

for the Hibernate button (edited)

Scamdisk

Click to see attachment 🖼️

the shine line of 5259's taskbar buttons fits the earlier texture better

(legit forgor 5270 still had that button style in Start and remade the Hibernate button

)

Scamdisk

Click to see attachment 🖼️

ehh, honestly not that sure for inactive - the reflection looks kinda sharp in comparison, akin to 5259+'s Taskbar. Defo wouldn't fit for active imo given how active looks in the OG design for comparison. (edited)

14:39

there again, maybe a meshing of the two styles might work (edited)

then again, here's the screenshot of 5223

14:40

notice the taskbar buttons

huh.

14:41

I actually forgor.

the 5259 taskbar buttons are actually almost that

14:41

if not actually that

also ah yes, yet another thing I need to change textures of soon - Math Input

skip

holy shit

Scott The Woz

the bron jame

Hey all, Scott here

also, shame really that Microsoft decided they didn't want to fix the flaw with that^ Start Menu style.

you should add the bugged calendar widget with the white background to your 8tovista pack

uh...

for perfect similarity

it legitimately is bugged.

LMAO

it's literally Vista's Sidebar from Vista. (edited)

that issue is fixed in 7

albeit with a port of World Clock to RTM

14:48

(with like probably just one or two options removed because complications)

apparently ie9 breaks it

ah yes,

14:49

IE9+.

at this point make the TPs disable IE

those buttons tho

skip

those buttons tho

IE moment

14:50

(though it does bring back the IE9 buttons on IE's own textures) (edited)

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

IE9+.

also le goofy ahh Microsoft

@That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes Do you think youre going to make transformation pack installers that are compatible with 7?

no

15:59

because those exist

15:59

you can just change the Backend code to make it compatible with 7 instead.

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

you can just change the Backend code to make it compatible with 7 instead.

that sounds harder than it really does right

the Door guy

that sounds harder than it really does right

ye it's easier than it sounds (edited)

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

IE9+.

You can fix that calendar gadget by copying the one from 7 to Vista

22:00

I think you need the calendar gadget from 7 patched after IE9

22:00

Or it's the other way around, forgot lol

@Scamdisk @ImSwordQueen @SwordQueenThe2nd do either of you (or anyone else here) know what update for Windows 8.0/Server 2012 R1 causes the black wallpaper bug? I'm having the issue rn with 2012 R1

for security only, ik its the 2021-03, 2021-04 and the 2022-05 updates

win5270

@Scamdisk @ImSwordQueen @SwordQueenThe2nd do either of you (or anyone else here) know what update for Windows 8.0/Server 2012 R1 causes the black wallpaper bug? I'm having the issue rn with 2012 R1

O yeah given you're on 8.x want a ping for the next pre-alpha build of Win8ToVista?

13:45

Given it is a faithful Windows 8 transformation pack planned to seriously do a job of converting 8.x to Vista wherever possible.

13:46

(next build is planned to drop once I've converted all the changes needed for WMP11, to be present 100% functionally, into the installation procedure) (edited)

man

8gb starter no way

ImSwordQueen

8gb starter no way

jokes on you, its actually just 5gb of 0's at the end of the file

Michael

jokes on you, its actually just 5gb of 0's at the end of the file

you gave me an idea

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

O yeah given you're on 8.x want a ping for the next pre-alpha build of Win8ToVista?

sure, just send me a friend request and dm it

about that

20:12

we're already friends lol

oh lol

so yay

shows how often i use discord

20:13

at least for dming people

20:13

i only use this server pretty much

9 days (or 10 depending on timezones) until eol for 8 and extended support for 7