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Between 29/04/2022 22:00 and 31/12/2022 23:00
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#RadMorning 30/04/2022 11:52
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#RadMorning
Click to see attachment 🖼️
the Door guy 30/04/2022 12:57
Why is the text humongous
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#RadMorning 30/04/2022 12:58
Because that's what the text in Windows 8 looks like?
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#RadMorning
Because that's what the text in Windows 8 looks like?
the Door guy 30/04/2022 12:59
Make it smaller PLEASE
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#RadMorning 30/04/2022 12:59
I didn't install uDWM, this is a glitch I've found
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the Door guy 30/04/2022 12:59
oh
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Btw check dm
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#RadMorning
Click to see attachment 🖼️
ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 13:31
Not offset left titlebar
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😳
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 18:59
hex part to edit for the offset. DO NOT SHARE IT AROUND
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the EF FF FF FF part
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is that the already patched part
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or unpatched
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 19:05
patched
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with the text too close to the icon
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with your caption buttons
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is the EF the offset
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also why is this person so fucking locked down
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christ
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 19:13
yes EF is the offset
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it's all 00 on the original dwm
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Uhhh
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fuck
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one moment
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ImSwordQueen
yes EF is the offset
So the signed/negative offset values would shift it to the left, while I presume 00-7F values of what seems to be a DWORD would shift it to the right.
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what is it shifting to
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honestly i wish i knew how to operate ida pro to look at this with the 7 uDWM
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and the 8.1 one
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oh shit still have ida
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7.6
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This patch is for Windows 8 right?
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 19:34
DF goes more to the left
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 19:34
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try FA
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 19:35
i was trying the funny shell32 rn but let me check that one now
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how can i find a byte sequence in ida
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actually better
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an offset
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 19:37
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@Vruh 2
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that's
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pretty close
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give me a sec
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#RadMorning 30/04/2022 19:37
that's reeeeally good
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 19:37
alright
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it's gonna be a guessing game
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try F5
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 19:39
F5 (edited)
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theme settings
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it changed to the atlas image
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So, presumably, 00 is centre, 80 would be farthest left and 7F... farthest right?
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 19:41
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it would help to know 7's offset
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why is task manager different
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now that looks too far away
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 19:41
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that looks like the theme atlas
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the glow looks different
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 19:42
too close or too far
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too far
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 19:42
want to try FA again
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@win32 how do i look up an offset in ida
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 19:43
yeah too far
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GetLeftOffset
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that's literally the name of the thing
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 19:48
ping me when you find the value
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ok so getleftoffset does not exist in 7
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so there is no value in 7
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 19:55
YES
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THIS THING FUCKING WORKS
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what
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 19:56
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old copy dialogs ?
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holy shit
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 19:56
yes
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from what build
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 19:56
jevil is a madman
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patched 9600 shell32
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also there is no offset in 7's uDWM
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 19:56
literally my madman with ida found what calls the new dialogs
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meaning you're gonna have to wing it
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 19:57
i'm... not going to do that
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and instead going to the closest i will find
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start with something absurd and work your way up
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it'd be funny to find the function that handles caption button size
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 19:59
you could check with ida
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it's probably not GetCaptionButtonBounds
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:00
literally ida can find debug symbols so you aren't going blindly
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yeah i know
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i don't know how to work with ida though
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ImSwordQueen
literally my madman with ida found what calls the new dialogs
Impressive
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ImSwordQueen
Click to see attachment 🖼️
also i see the older theme
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you should get the newer one from rectify win
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barely changes anything but hey
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clearer "overlays" on the sides
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:13
can you send it here
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cba to find it
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I'm confident that making the caption buttons glow might not be so hard after all
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ImSwordQueen
can you send it here
sure]
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:13
so i can pin it too
ImSwordQueen pinned a message to this channel. 30/04/2022 20:13
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Vruh 2
pov
They really simplified this in 8.1
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no like
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it never existed
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in windows 7
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In 8 it is structured differently, so it's more of trouble to locate the offset value stuff
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this function never existed in windows 7
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Especially with my rotten asm
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if i were to bet the position of the text was still very much in win32k
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hardcoded
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because i'm pretty sure the position matches between basic and aero
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basic does not use anything from uDWM afaik
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:16
yeah
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basic matches aero
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and aero matches basic
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actually
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Might wanna check both dwmcore and udwm
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that's my bet
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:17
that's weird
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because
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the centering is being done on the theme for basic
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only god knows how it's done in windows 7
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but it doesn't matter in windows 8 (edited)
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__int64 __fastcall CText::GetLeftOffset(CText *this) { return -6i64; }
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it returns this with FA FF FF FF
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CTopLevelWindow::CreateButtonGlowsFromAtlas @E2
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does this interest you
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of course it doesn't exist on 8's DWM
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@ImSwordQueen if you feel brave
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you can try FF
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which is probably too much
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:34
FF?
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but either way
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yeah
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:37
@Vruh 2
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too much
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but without glass8 it was perfect
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wait what the fuck
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i thought it'd set it more to the left
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one moment
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:37
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of course
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it doesn't render the blur
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:38
you have to count glass8 offset as well
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ok so
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223 is too "to the left"
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239 is still too to the left
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250 is too to the right
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uhh
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240?
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no
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we tried 245 and it changed absolutely nothing
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now you see
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:39
going to try EF to see if anything changes
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this is the moment i wish i had an 8.1 vm to try it out
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EF was the initial value you gave us
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239
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:39
i would add by 1 every time
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so we don't go by random values
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and we see how close we can get
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throwing random values wastes more time
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F0 240 F1 241 F2 242 F3 243 F4 244 F5 245 and so on (edited)
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till F9
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:41
yeah
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i saw that this changes something too
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but idk to what direction
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or where
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when i modified it. it made the text disappear
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don't modify it then
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:42
F0
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it looks perfect imo
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idk about you
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check the other windows
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:44
5 (edited)
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it looks like it uses the theme atlas image for the glow
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which we know offsets it even more
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:44
so is it wrong still
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it's off by literally 2px
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try EF again
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:45
ok that's more tolerable
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:46
EF is this
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and F0
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on winver that is
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:46
the one i sent before
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yeah uhh
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:46
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is there something cursed about 239 that windows doesn't like
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like what
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:47
the offset
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but why EF
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specifically
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fuck i wish i had an 8.1 vm right now
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:47
yeah that's way better
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i think i'm going to keep F0
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keep F0 for now
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:48
because it's WAY closer than the fuck we had before
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since anything lower just
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springs the text to the far left
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also did you notice something
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:48
what
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monochrome cleartype on 8.1
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what
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:48
what
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:49
wtf
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you can see the text has some color on the antialiasing
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on 7
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can you try installing the 7 segoe
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:49
gonna check with 7 segoe
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honestly
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that's the closest that 99% people won't notice
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text glows are impossible
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no
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no
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caption glows are impossible
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i'm taking a wild guess and i'll say they're handled in CreateButtonGlowsFromAtlas on 7
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:51
caption glows are like the reflections
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gone
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which doesn't even exist in the 8.1 uDWM
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completely eradicated
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:52
pay win32 300$ to reimplement it
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trol
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with the other functions as well
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Vruh 2
you can see the text has some color on the antialiasing
Because that's cleartype/subpixel oversampling
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The font has little to no effect on it
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then cleartype changed from 7 to 8
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simple
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:53
yeah
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it did
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No, that part is probably not rendered with cleartype
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Just like UWP apps don't render text with cleartype
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:53
i'm pretty sure cleartype changed during 8 development
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Still ClearType still has the subpixel oversampling thing
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barisberat 30/04/2022 20:54
what are you guys doing currently (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:55
cooking 8.1
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your...
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:56
why are the fonts still the 8.x ones
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i hate
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why the fuck
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is it there now
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why is the text so glued
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:57
do i have to restart windows every time to see the fucking change
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holy shit
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Vruh 2
why is the text so glued
ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:57
good question
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before it was fine like what
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maybe you do need to restart to see the change
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:58
going to test FA again
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i only killed dwm
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do it
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:58
isn't that enough
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Ok I see now. The 8 dialogue is such a lazy patch by Microsoft
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no wait
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what is the current value
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F0?
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try F5
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Laterally locked behind a value
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:58
yes F0
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then try FA
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@E2 bro
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again
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I presume they made the old 7 dialogue a fall back one
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i took a wild guess and i think the caption glow (edited)
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is on CreateButtonGlowsFromAtlas
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E2
I presume they made the old 7 dialogue a fall back one
ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 20:59
yes
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caption button glow that is
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that isn't in windows 8.1's udwm
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so like
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ImSwordQueen
yes
It's literally a switch
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 21:00
you seen it on betawiki right? (edited)
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the best of luck to you if you want to add it back
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Yeah I am not the one to implement that anytime soon 😅
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I'd have to make it work with atlas stuff too
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 21:00
@Ximonitem plzzz
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WHAT THE FUCK
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i hate the fact
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that xim on item makes ximonite
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you hate the fact
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 21:01
yes i hate the facts
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i believe in lies
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welcome to. fuck me v2 @Vruh 2 (edited)
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no than ks
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i'm fine
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 21:02
not that
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bru
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doom
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Maybe 8 has more funny stuff like this. I will have to look later
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 21:02
that's wrong
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uhhh so
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 21:02
i'm pretty sure
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why is it changing back to the theme atlas glow
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i'm fucking tripping
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 21:03
i don't
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fucking
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know
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this is why F5
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and restarting
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ImSwordQueen
not that
trol
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ok i'm not tripping
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try a lower value
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 21:03
sorry xim for the ping
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What is happening?
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or rather
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I got pinged
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try fucking changing to theme settings
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saving
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idk what’s happening
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and restarting
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Ximonite
idk what’s happening
uhh
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left alignment text offsets in 8.1
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 21:04
plz introduce glow on atlas thing
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and that
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 21:04
that vruh2 is talking about
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plz
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@Ximonite CreateButtonGlowsFromAtlas
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it's in 7
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uDWM
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i have no idea if that's the function that does it
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i think it isn't
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 21:05
F3 and F4 are close contestants if my calculations are right
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but it could be
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bro
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set the glow to theme settings
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and save
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and restart
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 21:05
IT IS
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when you see the blocky ass glow on the middle
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theme atlas glow
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 21:05
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it's the old theme still
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i haven't changed it yet
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slight difference
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 21:06
same vm
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try f4 or f3
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 21:06
no settings changed
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i know
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 21:07
restarting with the F3 udwm
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Bata Đoša 30/04/2022 21:08
Lower better
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 21:10
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 21:11
going for F4 or still
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works
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thing is
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the icon is also offset more to the left in windows 7
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☠
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good luck trying to change the offset of the icon
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 21:15
not
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going
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to do
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that
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going by text
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so fuck the icon
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F3 good enough
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fuck you
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if you want me to do some dll modding
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I can eventually
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f3 is good noeguh
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not gonna do anything with dlls rn
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pc not set up
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cleaning my room
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 21:16
i didn't want to ping you rn
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i saw you were offline
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ximonite find the function in uDWM that handles button glows in 7 and add it to 8.1 troll
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 21:16
i wanted to ping ximonitem but apparently ximonite has all the letters necessary for pinging you
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because that's how discord works
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CTopLevelWindow::CreateButtonGlowsFromAtlas doesn't sound promising
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 21:17
make the buttons the right size trol
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I have to port a driver from x86 to x64 myself!
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ImSwordQueen
i didn't want to ping you rn
you didn’t ping me
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I just decided to check discord
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the first time yea was ping
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but when I came back just now
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completely random
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 21:18
oh
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__int64 __fastcall CTopLevelWindow::CreateButtonGlowsFromAtlas(HTHEME hTheme) { unsigned int v1; // ebx int *v3; // rdi unsigned int v4; // esi int v5; // edx int v6; // eax CBaseObject *v7; // rcx CBaseObject *v8; // rcx CBaseObject *v9; // rcx int v10; // eax CBaseObject *v11; // rcx CBaseObject *v12; // rcx CBaseObject *v13; // rcx struct _MARGINS v15; // [rsp+30h] [rbp-18h] BYREF CBaseObject *v16; // [rsp+58h] [rbp+10h] BYREF v1 = 0; v3 = (int *)&unk_7FF72FEA27C; v16 = 0i64; v4 = 0; while ( 1 ) { v5 = *(v3 - 1); if ( v5 != -1 ) { v6 = CTopLevelWindow::CreateBitmapFromAtlas(hTheme, v5, &v15, &v16); v1 = v6; if ( v6 < 0 ) { MilInstrumentationCheckHR(5u, 0i64, 0, v6, 0xE4u); goto LABEL_12; } v7 = v16; *((__m128i *)v16 + 3) = _mm_loadu_si128((const __m128i *)&v15); *(_QWORD *)(*(_QWORD *)(CTopLevelWindow::s_rgpwfWindowFrames + 8i64 * (unsigned int)v3[1]) + 136i64) = v7; CBaseObject::AddRef(v7); *(_QWORD *)(*(_QWORD *)(CTopLevelWindow::s_rgpwfWindowFrames + 8i64 * (unsigned int)v3[2]) + 136i64) = v8; CBaseObject::AddRef(v8); CBaseObject::Release(v9); v16 = 0i64; } if ( *v3 != -1 ) break;
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 21:18
lol
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bruh2
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LABEL_8: ++v4; v3 += 4; if ( v4 >= 3 ) return v1; } v10 = CTopLevelWindow::CreateBitmapFromAtlas(hTheme, *v3, &v15, &v16); v1 = v10; if ( v10 >= 0 ) { v11 = v16; *((__m128i *)v16 + 3) = _mm_loadu_si128((const __m128i *)&v15); *(_QWORD *)(*(_QWORD *)(CTopLevelWindow::s_rgpwfWindowFrames + 8i64 * (unsigned int)v3[1]) + 128i64) = v11; CBaseObject::AddRef(v11); *(_QWORD *)(*(_QWORD *)(CTopLevelWindow::s_rgpwfWindowFrames + 8i64 * (unsigned int)v3[2]) + 128i64) = v12; CBaseObject::AddRef(v12); CBaseObject::Release(v13); v16 = 0i64; goto LABEL_8; } MilInstrumentationCheckHR(5u, 0i64, 0, v10, 0xEFu); LABEL_12: if ( v16 ) CBaseObject::Release(v16); return v1; }
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 21:19
bruh3
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those 2 are the same function
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ImSwordQueen 30/04/2022 21:19
brb inviting vruh 3
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what is that
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"CreateButtonGlowsFromAtlas"
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from 7's uDWM.dll
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which to be clear
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poggers
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does not exist in 8.1's uDWM.dll
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skip epic pfp is back
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pog
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hexagonite we need CreateButtonGlowsFromAtlas
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hexagonite lmao (edited)
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lamo
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lmofa
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lfamso
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skip
lfamso
or my favorite
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LM
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lamosfa
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ImSwordQueen 01/05/2022 12:39
Well, it has happened. The Windows 7 file copy dialog is now available on Windows 8.1 without disabling DWM. That's one step closer to a 1 to 1 Windows 8.1 to Windows 7 transformation.
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He made it return false, funny how simple that was
docR pinned a message to this channel. 01/05/2022 13:04
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ImSwordQueen 01/05/2022 13:05
Simple on 8.1
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On 8.0 its an another story
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I thought changing shell32 on 8.1 was 💀?
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ImSwordQueen 01/05/2022 13:27
yesn't
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shell32a trol
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ImSwordQueen 01/05/2022 13:28
or test mode
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both methods work
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test mode will make you not play genshin or valorant
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so it's the prefered method
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So call it shell32a.dll?
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ImSwordQueen 01/05/2022 13:28
no
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the unmodified version will be shell32a
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ImSwordQueen
or test mode
the Door guy 01/05/2022 13:28
i dont wanna do testmode
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ImSwordQueen 01/05/2022 13:28
you have to do this on PE
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I can do it from Vista trol
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ImSwordKing BOT 01/05/2022 13:29
Link x64: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/750428401382195254/807216337230626816/9600_Confidential.7z Link x86: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747931949523402813/807243361110065192/Confidential_x86.zip Credits: mintel#9690 - x64 files gagwangyeon_978 - x86 files Cirrubec#9353 - help getting this to work Note: do it at your own risk! Note: only for en-US locale! 1. Download the files for your architecture 2. Extract the files to an easily accessible location 3. Boot into WinPE or WinRE 4. Open command prompt, in WinPE Shift + F10, in WinRE Fix problems > Advanced options > Command prompt 5. Navigate to X:\Windows\System32, (where X is your Windows drive) 6. Rename shell32.dll into shell32a.dll 7. Navigate to en-us, and rename shell32.dll.mui to shell32a.dll.mui 8. Navigate to the location where the files are, and copy shell32.dll to system32, and shell32.dll.mui to system32\en-us 9. Open the registry editor 10. Select HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE 11. Select File > Load Hive 12. Navigate to X:\Windows\system32\config and open the file "SYSTEM" (where X is your Windows drive) 13. Give it the name "OfflineSystem" (it doesn't actually matter but for clarity the name OfflineSystem is used) 14. Navigate to HKLM\OfflineSystem\ControlSet001\Control\Session Manager\KnownDLLs 15. Change the value of "SHELL32" to shell32a.dll 16. Unload the hive 17. Reboot to the OS 18. Open Registry Editor again 19. Navigate to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Windows 20. Create a DWORD named DisplayNotRetailReady and set it to 1 21. Restart Explorer
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ImSwordQueen 01/05/2022 13:29
eh vista cares about registry ownership
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I have ways around that
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ImSwordQueen 01/05/2022 13:29
btw i have a thing to make you test
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the Door guy 01/05/2022 13:30
if i have 8.1 and 10 dualbooted, can i boot from 10 and do the stuff there instead?
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the Door guy
if i have 8.1 and 10 dualbooted, can i boot from 10 and do the stuff there instead?
ImSwordQueen 01/05/2022 13:30
same reason as you can't do it on vista
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ImSwordKing
Click to see attachment 🖼️
That's a lot of effort for a copy dialogue. I'll keep it stock feelscringeman
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ImSwordQueen 01/05/2022 13:31
it's not that hard
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btw
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ImSwordQueen
it's not that hard
the Door guy 01/05/2022 13:31
yes it is you mf
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ImSwordQueen 01/05/2022 13:32
you can do it on hiren PE so it's not impossible for the average guy (edited)
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the Door guy
yes it is you mf
Moreso inconvenient
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ImSwordQueen
Click to see attachment 🖼️
ImSwordQueen 01/05/2022 13:32
do you see anything wrong doc
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I've done worse
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Ribbon on libraries? Or libraries style ribbon on 8?
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ImSwordQueen 01/05/2022 13:32
not that
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that's the distraction
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the Door guy 01/05/2022 13:33
@ImSwordQueen theres this one explorer glitch where i first open explorer it doesnt apply command bar
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ImSwordQueen 01/05/2022 13:33
o.n.e thing (edited)
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#RadMorning 01/05/2022 13:33
@ImSwordQueen ?
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ImSwordQueen 01/05/2022 13:33
that's vruh2 theme being crooked
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with ribbon
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#RadMorning 01/05/2022 13:34
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you got this close enough
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ImSwordQueen 01/05/2022 13:34
yes
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the Door guy 01/05/2022 13:34
you fixed titlerbar??
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ImSwordQueen 01/05/2022 13:34
i didn't
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some chinese guy did
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and that chinese guy did something for vista7 as well
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which is....
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ImSwordQueen
some chinese guy did
the Door guy 01/05/2022 13:34
who and how
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ImSwordQueen 01/05/2022 13:35
scroll all back
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and you can see that i reverse engineered their mod
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the Door guy 01/05/2022 13:35
too many messages
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ImSwordQueen 01/05/2022 13:35
@docR you had to kill vista7 when you had the chance to
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now vista7 will take over vista
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the Door guy 01/05/2022 13:37
@ImSwordQueen send me the one thing i need for good titlebar
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ImSwordQueen 01/05/2022 13:37
literally scroll up
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you don't even have to scroll up that far (edited)
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the Door guy 01/05/2022 13:38
what is this btw
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ImSwordQueen 01/05/2022 13:38
bruh
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wth
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ImSwordQueen
Click to see attachment 🖼️
barisberat 01/05/2022 13:54
libraries
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ImSwordQueen 01/05/2022 13:56
going to test a thing
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ImSwordQueen
or test mode
barisberat 01/05/2022 14:52
Osradar - Linux windows and android Howtos, Tutorials, Guides, News about Cloud en Devops , Tips and Tricks.
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bcdedit /set testsigning on
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there
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no need for a whole article
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ImSwordQueen 01/05/2022 15:02
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ie framen't
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ImSwordQueen
@docR you had to kill vista7 when you had the chance to
ngl thats cool though
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ImSwordQueen 01/05/2022 17:13
but less people will go look real vista
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whyyy
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well the extended kernel just needs to compete a little harder
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i use real vista
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ImSwordQueen 01/05/2022 17:14
same
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but if it gets drift correction and support for newer display drivers, that'll open the door to way more people
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so they can use it too
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so win32 fixes those hurdles, or more people go to vista7 trol
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i just got a free server 2012 R2 product key yahoo
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congratulazione
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thanks now i can sate all of my server 2012 r2 standard needs
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but activated troll
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ImSwordQueen
but less people will go look real vista
half of the computers today can't run vista (edited)
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7 on the other hand
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ImSwordQueen
that's vruh2 theme being crooked
again
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i compensated with the thought that you're gonna use the theme with O.N.E
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ImSwordQueen
with ribbon
ImSwordQueen 01/05/2022 18:35
*
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literally i know
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ImSwordQueen 01/05/2022 20:56
this image without the watermark could fool a lot of people
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#RadMorning 01/05/2022 20:57
Recycle what?
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ImSwordQueen 01/05/2022 20:57
Recycle
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ImSwordQueen
this image without the watermark could fool a lot of people
i see you moved to the new theme
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good trol
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change glass geometry
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ImSwordQueen 01/05/2022 21:11
? @Vruh 2
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did i fuck something up in the theme
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ImSwordQueen 01/05/2022 21:12
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holy shit i thnk i did
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fuck
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installing wmf 5.1 on my 8.1 install so i can have powershell 5
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i need it for something and can't be bothered to have 2 versions of powershell if i install v7 separately
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balling
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ImSwordQueen 02/05/2022 09:37
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ImSwordQueen 02/05/2022 09:38
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Real
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that's true
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i hacked elon's account
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brb hacking elon musk's bank account to buy this /s
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#RadMorning 02/05/2022 09:43
with the amount of money Elon Musk has, you could buy a ton of Jupiters
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nah, i could buy the entire galaxy
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/s
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skip
i need it for something and can't be bothered to have 2 versions of powershell if i install v7 separately
it worked
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i can now use cool spotify adblock scripts
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day 2 of using 8.1
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#RadMorning 02/05/2022 10:06
...8.1 Embedded Industry Pro. is it working well?
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quite so
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in fact it runs better than fully updated win7
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running spotify and discord at the same time not even using 50% cpu and this is not a very powerful laptop
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nice tabs over there
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it's just qttabbar
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i prefer the tabs on the bottom
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ImSwordQueen 02/05/2022 11:05
😳
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nice 9431
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ImSwordQueen 02/05/2022 11:43
"9431"
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ImSwordQueen 02/05/2022 12:19
chunky sys tray
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ownage
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chunky sys tray
barisberat 02/05/2022 13:26
happens on windows 7 also
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ImSwordQueen 02/05/2022 17:54
paint.net stopped supporting 8.0 when they released the app on the microsoft store... seems sus
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ImSwordQueen 02/05/2022 19:26
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😍
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man.
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woman
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@RayZen
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@RayZen
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 15:45
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YES I REMOVED IT
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NO MORE USELESS BUTTON 😄
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 16:06
WHAT THE FUCK LMAO
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#RadMorning 03/05/2022 16:17
what are those icons?
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 16:22
a 🔎
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a nuclear warning
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W I D E W I N D O W S 8
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a satellite trying to communicate with aliens
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settings
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 16:37
ALMOST
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ALMOST GOT IT
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:05
the windows 8 is finally gone but the color is off quite a bit
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make it straight up not use the accent color trol
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like in the actual builds
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:20
i don't even know what uses for it
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for now
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i'm going to remove the windows 8 thing from it
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so it looks full quality
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and probably later will try that
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@Scamdisk you asked for it trol
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damn
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:25
now going to remove the color from it
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btw the search icon is gone too
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i removed it from the start screen uifile
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trol
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so 8.0.1 can exist now trol
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ah yes, 8.1 rtm moment
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:28
i wonder why they released 8.1 rtm in the first place
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it's just 8.0
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but with a start button (edited)
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they had to release something to ya know
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undo the damage
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:29
RT start menu oh
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if they released that instead of 10
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it would had undone the damage
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:29
windows 11 wouldn't be a thing
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good for me
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👍
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Same
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:29
time to learn time travel
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and delete the guy who was in charge of windows during 2014-2015
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:30
ah yes
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Tell Satya Nadella to not do any Windows releases past 8.1 and not do Windows as a service
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Issue solved
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And if he doesn't agree... troll
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delete him from the timeline
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That would fix Windows 100%
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:32
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fun fact: MS wanted to waas with 8
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:32
waas 8 oh
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death
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the worst timeline would had been NT 5.1 waas
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the timeline where vista never happened
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doom
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:34
waas vista
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imagine
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Windows 98 WaaS troll oh
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waas vista would had just led into 8
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skipping 7 entirely
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:34
i remember someone
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doing mockups
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that vista was waas (edited)
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and 7 never happened
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so 8 had 7 stuff
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or something like that
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like 7 was let's say, a stopgap release
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:35
an awful one at best
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if vista succeded, they would had went straight into 8
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:35
they made 7 too good
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RayZen
Windows 98 WaaS troll oh
Considering 98 was so internet themed, it wouldn't have been too far-fetched if internet was fast enough back then
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:35
even with libraries
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they had to nerf it with libraries
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and this is not a joke
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try removing libraries
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when the so considered best version of Windows is a stopgap release
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Damn
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because thats what 7 feels like
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Well 7 is overrated anyway so eh
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:37
tbf
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it isn't that overrated
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it has charm (edited)
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XP and 7 are the most overrated releases if being honest
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:37
XP yes
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7 a little less
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add 95 to the stockpile
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:37
but still overrated
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revolutionary, yes
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They mainly have their love due to looks and oldness
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:38
that's basically why vista is famous rn?
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for the looks
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Yeah
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That's why Windows 2000 and NT 4.0 are typically ignored
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:39
tbf
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windows is only famous because
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looks
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and compability
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Yeah
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but tbh, 98 and ME, hell, even NT 4 replace 95 outright for me (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:40
i mean
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everything is good than 9x
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9x was really below avarage
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well 95 is the lowest for me tbh
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so low that ME is much higher up than it
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ImSwordQueen
9x was really below avarage
Well 9x only existed because Microsoft was so messy back then
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:42
i mean
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not really
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top 4 9x releases 4. Windows 95 3. Windows 98 FE 2. Windows ME 1. Windows 98 SE
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:42
9x was their main OS at the time
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NT was second
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well NT wasnt ready for consumers at the time of the early to mid 90s
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but by the late 90s? yeah, 2000 Personal should had been a thing instead of ME
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Scamdisk
top 4 9x releases 4. Windows 95 3. Windows 98 FE 2. Windows ME 1. Windows 98 SE
Windows Me is the best 9x release IMO, its the most stable one in my experience
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:44
microsoft was too scared about releasing 2000
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that they made neptune and odyssey instead of merging them from the very beginning
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but then they merged neptune and odyssey into ya know what
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Scamdisk
but by the late 90s? yeah, 2000 Personal should had been a thing instead of ME
Well they sorta did it by making people use 2000 because Me was unstable at launch, there were people who stayed on 98 ofc
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:45
also ME was in development during neptune
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so what the actual fuck did microsoft smoke
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MS at that time was a much of a mess as it was in 2019-2021
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:45
2022*
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still a mess
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except they released a thing between 98/2000 and XP
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:46
we got
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windows 10 vibranium
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windows 10 iron* (server only)
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unlike there's nothing between VB and CO client wise
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:46
windows 11 cobalt
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honestly iron should had been the 10 21H2
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:46
windows 11 nickel which i don't even fucking know if they are releasining nickel or not
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they are defo releasing it
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:47
the thing is
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why is it releasing before fall
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and copper which is server only for now
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and zinc in le planning stage
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:47
hell the H2 does mean nothing now
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ImSwordQueen
windows 10 vibranium
Windows 10 Manganese too
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nah, they gonna sign the final build number now and they wont release it outside insider until fall
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:48
yes we are releasing the second half of 2022 update in the first half of 2022
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Also what happened to Manganese
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that became nothing
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:48
death
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It just existed and that's it
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:48
it was going to be 10X
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but well....
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no?
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:48
wasn't 10X based on manganese?
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or smth
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iirc 10X could had been cobalt
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iirc some nickel based 10X builds were compiled but never flighted
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Iron and Cobalt got their releases but Manganese didn't even though it had good time to get released in between Iron and Cobalt
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:49
iron never released outside server
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this is the first time in over a decade that
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microsoft released a server release which isn't tied to client
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inb4 the next server release will be tied to client again
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:50
i wonder if microsoft got reset in 2020
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and went back to 2000
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hell they fucking repeat the same bullshit as they did 20 years ago
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Well next server release we know is gonna be zinc
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:51
tbf
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we don't even fucking know at this point
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not sure, but very likely
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:51
microsoft has been unpredictable when 11 got announced
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once cu_release client builds get into public insider, server insider is gonna go to zinc (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:51
for most stuff
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i mean we know server skipped over ni_release
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so it coukd skip over cu_release too (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:52
they have been on redstone during that time trol
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fun fact: waas Windows was always a mess like that
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ImSwordQueen
microsoft has been unpredictable when 11 got announced
Well ever since they began making builds that weren't tied to any releases
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:53
honestly
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what the fuck does rs mean
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TH2 development started before TH1 was even done
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:53
is it supposed to be redstone?
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reeesus?
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Windows 10 2004 is basically the last Windows 10 release that isn't weird or stupid
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:54
not really
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1903 is
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Honestly, yeah
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:55
after 1903 weird shit started happening with 10
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Was also the last 10 release I ran on my PC
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:55
same
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as my main though
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i still used 10 as dualboot since recently
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like
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8 months ago at this point
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if you think today is a mess
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RayZen
Was also the last 10 release I ran on my PC
It didn't perform that badly even when I had 2 GB of RAM
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here's the earliest known th2 build
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10.0.10060.0.th2.150409-2138
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:56
server right?
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well thats the earlier th2 tag we know of
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Scamdisk
here's the earliest known th2 build
doom
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literally before th1 was even done
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th2 already started
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:57
that's kinda what ms does
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hell
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Windows 10 stupidity is eternal
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:57
7 wasn't done when 8 started development
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but 1006x wasnt rc whatsoever
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:57
idk about vista and 7
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because they usually start new releases during the rc phase of another
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well they did at that time
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:58
probably testing the new branch?
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we might never know
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well unless 10060 th2 leaks
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 17:59
basically
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never
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or in encrypted esd
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so basically never
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theres a reason we will never get 989x
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 18:00
encrypted esds doom
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basically a fuck you for beta preservation groups
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and leakers
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also we havent gotten any testsigned 10 builds aside from the fbl_partner_eeap ones (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 03/05/2022 18:02
man hoping that the main encryption key for esds gets leaked
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that generates the main keys
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so some of those unencrypted builds that we have finally get decrypted
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ImSwordQueen 04/05/2022 07:42
color has been fixed somewhat
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now to the awful alignment
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ImSwordQueen
test mode will make you not play genshin or valorant
barisberat 04/05/2022 08:07
i had tested that out and the game works fine even with test mode on
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cuz it doesnt actually prevent these games from running
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well was thinking EAC was gonna shit itself seeing that enabled
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i had tested that out and the game works fine even with test mode on
ImSwordQueen 04/05/2022 08:12
whyyy
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dies of cringe
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YES
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I GOT IT
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TO FUCKING WORK
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FUCK YES
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it took so fucking long jesus
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Congratulations on an impressive accomplishment
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ImSwordQueen 04/05/2022 08:14
i think i'm the first one to actually mod this fucking logo
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Yeah, you indeed are
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ImSwordQueen 04/05/2022 08:14
without the 8 one taking over after
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That overlay flag was quite an annoying thing
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ImSwordQueen 04/05/2022 08:16
absolutely a mess to work with
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a 9/10 match
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i'm going to clean the absolute mess i've done
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this is what with the white logo looks like
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a mess
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ImSwordQueen 04/05/2022 08:32
ok i should not touch the cursed code
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it absolutely dies if i touch it
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ImSwordQueen 04/05/2022 08:41
welp this is unfortunate
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i lost the power button
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ImSwordQueen 04/05/2022 11:56
i noticed that 8.1's twinui has the button icons for maximize on metro apps
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hmm yes, unused stuff
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ImSwordQueen 04/05/2022 11:59
i wonder if there are RT start screen leftovers on 8.1
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if the windowed metro apps still have leftovers so probably there might be something
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the fact they decided to release the start menu update where it wasn't even needed
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ImSwordQueen 04/05/2022 12:00
RT trol oh
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ImSwordKing BOT 04/05/2022 12:09
8.0 osk moddable omg
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ImSwordQueen 04/05/2022 12:09
8.x*
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jk the error still shows up even with the og bak oh
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and that does not work
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pain
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ImSwordQueen 04/05/2022 20:20
i was going to mod van.dll to make it a small box
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but i don't even know
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why is it formatted this way
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microsoft why
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ImSwordQueen 04/05/2022 20:46
apply these 2 via customizergod > start button
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will replace this
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and this
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charms bar coming soon
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Oooooh
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Thank you!
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I was going to make my own images for that, but this will fit perfectly ^^
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ImSwordQueen 05/05/2022 12:09
ok the only time i nuke the store completly
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all metro apps work
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whyyy
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ImSwordQueen 05/05/2022 15:24
get fake
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ImSwordQueen 05/05/2022 15:50
what the fuck
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apparently everything is disabled
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trol
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what the hell did you just do
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port 8.0 settings to 8.1
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ImSwordQueen 05/05/2022 15:52
IDK
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i was cooking 8.1 settings
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while not having winstore
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and this showed up
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damn
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937x pc settings doesn't show up
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death 💀
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ImSwordQueen 05/05/2022 16:20
fuck
docR pinned a message to this channel. 05/05/2022 16:42
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ImSwordQueen 05/05/2022 18:19
patched twinui (read under this message for the list of changes) (edited)
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includes: Removed search button from the start screen Removed charms start button animation (had to remove it or would glitch out the logo) Replaced some icons with the Developer preview counterparts Removed search button from the start screen Removed charms start button animation (had to remove it or would glitch out the logo) Replaced some icons with the Developer preview counterparts replaced the 8.1 start button with a similar DP one. (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 06/05/2022 17:30
man pirates are so nice. they already put the 7 orb inside with this totally legit copy of sib
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so i don't have to replace them myself
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how nice
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i can't use a legit copy because of the sig check whyyy
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ImSwordQueen 06/05/2022 17:50
and i found out that even with the patched sig one it still requires patching to make it work
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the damn dreaded sig check
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ImSwordQueen 06/05/2022 17:50
ty tihiy for not supporting multiple dpi bmps
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or multiple start buttons at the same time at all
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wanted 8r to have big and small buttons without going into sib settings
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obviously sig check striked
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ImSwordQueen 06/05/2022 17:51
pirated as well?
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because that's what does it trol
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well yes because uhhh
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ImSwordQueen 06/05/2022 17:53
i have to find what actually patches the thing to make explorer boot if modified
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because the start button isn't right
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whyyy
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you gotta like disable the patchguard and shit
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and honestly idk how to asm
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or more acuratelly, idk how to ida
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3confusing5me
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ImSwordQueen 06/05/2022 17:55
brb asking ximonitem
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isn't 64bit 3muchbit5xergonite
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oh wait
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ImSwordQueen 06/05/2022 17:58
oh shit
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you might be right
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ImSwordQueen 06/05/2022 18:28
obv the images make it impossible to find what changes
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Deleted User 06/05/2022 20:18
@ImSwordQueen repack?
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yeah, i have start10 and i have so many orbs
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repack by tyran i believe
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Deleted User
@ImSwordQueen repack?
ImSwordQueen 06/05/2022 20:18
of what
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Deleted User 06/05/2022 20:19
startallback
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ImSwordQueen 06/05/2022 20:19
that's sib
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not sab
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Deleted User 06/05/2022 20:19
ah startisback
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still nice
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an editor for windows visual styles. Contribute to nptr/msstyleEditor development by creating an account on GitHub.
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ayo
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ImSwordQueen 07/05/2022 22:39
hello
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what's up
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this looks p similar to wsb
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ImSwordQueen 07/05/2022 22:39
i'm talking about arson
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yeah i use that for making ribbon centered on 8.0
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on the 7 theme
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microsoft are sick idiots
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what happened with GetLeftOffset
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why was it even implemented
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why did it have to change from 9200 to 9600
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not complaining about that but like (edited)
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i spy with my little eye...
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a very familiar byte pattern
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let's see 9600, what do you have with that
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uhhuh
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i think i found it
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i just need to test it
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@ImSwordQueen is this it
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are we getting a left align patch for 8.0
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if it's actually this i'm going insane
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ok good it isn't
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Vruh 2
i spy with my little eye...
remind me to not look at byte patterns
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because this byte pattern appears quite a lot in 9200's uDWM
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spoiler getcaptionbuttonbounds does jack shit
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I have my doubts in the caption button sizes being in uDWM
ImSwordQueen pinned a message to this channel. 08/05/2022 13:57
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ImSwordQueen 08/05/2022 13:58
read what i changed before hand
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ImSwordQueen
man pirates are so nice. they already put the 7 orb inside with this totally legit copy of sib
Can you send that middle orb? Been trying to find one like that with good padding
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ImSwordQueen 08/05/2022 14:00
which one
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the number
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the middle is here
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@docR
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Ughhh. True
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The squared logo in shiny orb
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ImSwordQueen 08/05/2022 14:03
oh the 8.x logo inside the 7 orb
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right
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let me turn on the vm real quick
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gee i wonder why cursed orbs keep getting shipped with sib/sab
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this is beyond cursed
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ImSwordQueen 08/05/2022 14:04
also the first release of sib
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has the sib orb with the cool shit
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meanwhile the other orbs cannot do the same shit
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right, the orb that properly adjusts to taskbar size
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and position
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ImSwordQueen 08/05/2022 14:05
only sib has it
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sib++ doesn't
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does sib+ have it tho
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doubt it
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ImSwordQueen 08/05/2022 14:06
meant sib+
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my bad
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@docR
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og sib had the sib logo orb too
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ImSwordQueen 08/05/2022 14:06
yep
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and actually
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his orb was inside sib dlls (edited)
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so good luck removing it
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which have checks
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oh
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ImSwordQueen 08/05/2022 14:07
i wonder how the pirates managed to modify it
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actually
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nvm
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probably they just updated the signature check
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@docR
Thanks
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@E2 maybe this'll give us a clue as for the caption button sizes
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actually no it won't 💀
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i forgot these builds literally have no symbols
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would be pretty cool though
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ImSwordQueen 08/05/2022 19:15
check every debug builds
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all builds after 7875 have the smaller buttons
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all of them
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ImSwordQueen 08/05/2022 19:15
i'm pretty sure
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that you can still check (edited)
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7875 has a chk compile however
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7850 afaik doesn't
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NO shit sorry
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7850 hasa chk compile
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I think 7850 has x64 symbols available
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yaeh but 7875 doesn't
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matter of fact
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there isn't a close build to 7850 with symbols available
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I think 7850 has x64 symbols available
trippy downloading symbols for 7850
docR pinned a message to this channel. 08/05/2022 19:37
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WHAT THE FUCK
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WHAT THE FUCK!!!!
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so idea
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WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK!!!!
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we need an orbs channel lol
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i'm going insane
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don't mind me
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why was this fucking function
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DEPRECATED
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AND BROUGHT BACK
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god ms were maniacs (edited)
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Hm.. this is getting weird
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Really weird
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8's symbols might very well be half-baked
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Can you screenshot the contents? (edited)
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Also, mind taking a look at 8102, 8250 and 8400?
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8888 is probably void of symbols
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ImSwordQueen 08/05/2022 19:50
it's a chk build
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soooo
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let me check
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i don't know where the symbols are located
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oh
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ImSwordQueen
i don't know where the symbols are located
send the udwm
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Can you screenshot the contents? (edited)
it can't be
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ImSwordQueen 08/05/2022 19:54
1.79 MB
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i can't find any trace of similar byte patterns for getleftoffset
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ImSwordQueen
Click to see attachment 🖼️
is it x64
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ImSwordQueen 08/05/2022 19:55
yes
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also chk
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it has no pdb's
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atleast on the ms server
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8400 please
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ImSwordQueen 08/05/2022 19:56
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no sign of getleftoffset
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8250 perhaps? @ImSwordQueen
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ImSwordQueen 08/05/2022 20:00
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need 8102 too? @Vruh 2
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no signs of getleftoffset on 8250 either
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honestly
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no
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@E2 unless you want to investigate too
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and i wonder
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That looks like one of the 8 RTM functions that had udwmtextaligned referenced (edited)
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Also, I will be fully getting into this once I'm done with exams
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yes it is (edited)
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Also, I will be fully getting into this once I'm done with exams
when is that
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Mid june maybe
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🦴
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Yeah, I also should be working on them instead of chatting here troll
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this sounds awfully like what centers the title in 8.0
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atleast the behavior
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if the left offset is 0 or less then 0
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then it sticks to the left
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aka
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v8 = 0 (edited)
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Make the move
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not sure how would i do the move
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but
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i need 8.0 on a vm right about now
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In what manner is getleftoffset patched?
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one moment
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That's where you probably take inspiration from
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well i make the ENTIRE function return 0
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or a negative offset
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except this is on another function
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i'm not sure it would be ideal to make the entire function useless as it might be important for something else
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i could try to make v8 be 0 at all instances (edited)
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and then we'll see what that does
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Well, can't help but experiment. I do suspect getleftoffset IS in 8, but the symbols are probably botched
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i doubt it
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there are no hex patterns that match getleftoffset on 8
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at all
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i can't find instructions similar to what you would expect of that function
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generally getleftoffset is close to UpdateGlows
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Well, contents of functions are bound to change. You never know if the patterns are supposed to match
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thing is
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it barely changed from 7850 to 8.1
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the function is almost the same
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But you do locate the pattern?
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here's the thing though
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i can't find any instructions that match up getleftoffset
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comparing to 7850
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and 9600
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not even a weirdly named function
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it could very well be that this function just ended up on another one
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got obfuscated, etc
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Idk then. I have to take a look myself, instead of theorizing
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Very possibly (edited)
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you could take a look at it rn
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trol
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Rn my bed's calling
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Well, if I find any free time, I will. Gn
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ImSwordQueen 08/05/2022 21:05
why
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the 2 assembly men offline (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 08/05/2022 21:21
are you sure that the dll isn't read only
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Negative
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It is
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It is
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It is
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Fuck
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Fuck
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ImSwordQueen 08/05/2022 21:21
vruh
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2
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broo i swea ron ,y ufkcing timberlands
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ImSwordQueen 08/05/2022 21:26
didn't that work
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well thing is i thought it was my patches fucking up somehow
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and i undid everything
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ImSwordQueen 08/05/2022 21:29
bru j
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@win32 bro you on
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Now I am.
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so @Vruh 2 the earlier builds with symbols lack this func?
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7850 has it
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8250 and 8400 both lack it
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8888 has no symbols but it should be the same
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my thought is
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if you want to take a look at these files yourself
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7850's udwm
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9200's udwm
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both have symbols if you want to look for it
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I see that there are some massive changes between those two
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So many other functions called in there are also gone
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no shit
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or
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you can compare these 2 @win32
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9600 and 9200
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i think it would be closer
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So I can see that the common denominator here is a class called CText, and this function offsets some members of it.
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A few things got shuffled around between 7850 and 9600, but not all.
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And I believe we've found our inlined GetLeftOffset in 9200:
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As you found earlier, of course.
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Around here to be exact. The offset seems to be deposited in edi.
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To be more specific, this seems to be the entirety of GetLeftOffset(). You can replace everything starting at 1800173BAh and going down to right before 180017421h to be equivalent to the existing patches.
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holy shit
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i found it then
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THanks win32
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you tha man
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To be more specific, this seems to be the entirety of GetLeftOffset(). You can replace everything starting at 1800173BAh and going down to right before 180017421h to be equivalent to the existing patches.
so just
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xor eax eax retn?
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or mov eax eax retn
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i forgot what the existing patch is
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retn will not be suitable. As it stores the value in edi, you will have to put xor edi, edi and nop everything else (and preferably a jmp to 180017421h so it skips over the nops)
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alright
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i got to try this
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ok i'm in the function
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this entire section?
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i'm kinda confused
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@win32 explain a bit to my dumb brain
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jmp 180017421h
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@ImSwordQueen
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aeroglass for win8
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and this too
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Vruh 2
@ImSwordQueen
goddamn, nice
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Vruh 2
@ImSwordQueen
ImSwordQueen 09/05/2022 06:55
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By doing this, you have also removed a dependency on SSE2 in the OS.
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so this patch would be required for running windows 8 on sse or lower
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ImSwordQueen 09/05/2022 07:06
Wait
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how is udwm involved with the sse2 requirement
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Vruh 2
@ImSwordQueen
Congrats :)
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By doing this, you have also removed a dependency on SSE2 in the OS.
And whoah, what?
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momentum
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ImSwordQueen 09/05/2022 08:16
Now
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The only piece missing is
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Van.dll
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And authui but ehhh
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To be more specific, this seems to be the entirety of GetLeftOffset(). You can replace everything starting at 1800173BAh and going down to right before 180017421h to be equivalent to the existing patches.
Thought so.
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Betajyst4094 09/05/2022 09:18
Damn
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ImSwordQueen 09/05/2022 09:31
Actually
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I will check if reimplementing a background is possible on 8.1
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And possibly backport it to 8.0
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Vruh 2
and i wonder
i was right all along i guess
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but without win32 i wouldnt have a confirmation
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so now i suppose what is left to do is
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offset patch
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ill try it later maybe
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ImSwordQueen 09/05/2022 10:21
🤔
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this isn't the right color
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@ImSwordQueen br can you try my udwm on metroless 9200 or a 9200 vm with aero
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ImSwordQueen 09/05/2022 10:53
yeah sure
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let me turn it on
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i was working on adding a background to the login screen rn
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is it directui
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if it is should be possible i think
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ImSwordQueen 09/05/2022 10:55
authui
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no i meaj
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ImSwordQueen 09/05/2022 10:55
so probably
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i don't remember
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if authui used directui or not
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does it have an ui fule
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file
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ImSwordQueen 09/05/2022 10:56
uifiles yeah
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then it should be
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ImSwordQueen 09/05/2022 10:58
uhm
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oh wait
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theme
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yeah
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wait
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hold up
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uhhh
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@Vruh 2
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glass8 being funny with reflections (edited)
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I think you might also have to patch the text glow alignment in uDWM
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Since I saw the functionality for it in there
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ImSwordQueen 09/05/2022 11:01
yeah
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i think you patch it similarly to 8.1
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ImSwordQueen 09/05/2022 11:02
glass8 settings isn't affecting it
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did you disable the glow
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wait what
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is the glow not working
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ImSwordQueen 09/05/2022 11:02
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☠☠☠☠☠☠
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odd as fuck issue
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I think you might also have to patch the text glow alignment in uDWM
.
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You can try to investigate
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nah bro im out all day
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i pass the torch to you for now
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ImSwordQueen 09/05/2022 11:03
going to restart the vm to check if that does something
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i doubt it
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Ok. let me see then. I don't think I'll figure this out now but anyway
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would be quicker anyways since you have more asm under your belt
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More like decomposing remains of it
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i work around the pseudocode and ask around for win32 and ximonite
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ImSwordQueen 09/05/2022 11:04
i cook windows uifiles (edited)
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I need to get into C too
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Pseudocode makes stuff easier to understand
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ImSwordQueen 09/05/2022 11:04
the twinui mod i made isn't spaghetti code at all
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still that damn glow
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yes the glow is bugged
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ImSwordQueen 09/05/2022 11:05
strangely enough
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on the ribbonui ones it isn't affected
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The ribbon one is most likely defined by msstyles
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but we are close to finally having left aligned text on 8.0
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Both text and glow
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it is
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Thought so
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ImSwordQueen 09/05/2022 11:06
no need for 8.1 😳
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there is need for 8.1
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ImSwordQueen 09/05/2022 11:06
except for the legacy file transfer dialog
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Lol. Funny how I ended up right here
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ImSwordQueen
except for the legacy file transfer dialog
i can patch it later
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not a hard patch
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ImSwordQueen 09/05/2022 11:06
jevil tried that
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Yea, shouldn't be too hard to find
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ImSwordQueen 09/05/2022 11:06
it didn't work
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whats the issue then
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ImSwordQueen 09/05/2022 11:06
on 8.0 i mean
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I need to install VM
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ImSwordQueen
on 8.0 i mean
Can you pin 8400 M2 here?
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whats the issue jevil got
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ImSwordQueen 09/05/2022 11:07
the dialog would still appear
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even with the function was modified
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@E2 it's pinned in #os-mods
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maybe its shell32a doing that idk
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ImSwordQueen 09/05/2022 11:08
no
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because 8.0 doesn't need that
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but a thing i noticed is that
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with that function modified
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windows wouldn't boot at all
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without test mode
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But 8.1 does? Strange
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@Vruh 2 It is this one you modified?
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i could try patching ci
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Why are here two vruh's
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one is my old account
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@Vruh 2 It is this one you modified?
i believe so yes
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ImSwordQueen 09/05/2022 11:10
11:10
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Did he look at the pseudocode?
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Maybe variables and stuff are different
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ImSwordQueen 09/05/2022 11:11
i'm pretty sure he used symbols
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and because shell32 symbols aren't half baked
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it should be the same as 8.1's
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Is this the only thing changed?
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To be more specific, this seems to be the entirety of GetLeftOffset(). You can replace everything starting at 1800173BAh and going down to right before 180017421h to be equivalent to the existing patches.
.
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look at this
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search for the rax 18h thing
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i believe its the one on ValidateResources
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kinda hard to explain
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ImSwordQueen
how is udwm involved with the sse2 requirement
we patched over some sse2 instructions. dwm would fail to run on pre sse2 because of this
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the glow is handled by a different function in udwm
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yes... getleftoffset got inlined in updateglow too
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ImSwordQueen 09/05/2022 12:47
huh
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I almost figured it out
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I kinda understand how it goes but not really
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So edi just gets zero'd and udwmenablebits test's it
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so i think we need to patch out this entire thing with a 45 33 C0 (xor r8d, r8d - which can't be assembled in ida because it's a pure x64 instruction) and then the jmp to 1800176BCh
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So edi just gets zero'd and udwmenablebits test's it
yeah, edi gets moved into the member of the ctext class that represents the offset. the original patch omitted that comparison with udwmenablebits so it's not used in this one either
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Okay..I'm failing with the jump part
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how is it failing
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Can't make it jump to the address win32 mentioned
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Don't blame me, I really don't remember :(
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jump to this
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@win32 i have a feeling they just returned getleftoffset to be practical
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because it's inlined in both UpdateGlow and ValidateResources
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also makes me wonder if you can actually return GetLeftOffset and ditch the inlined variants
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Yeah..I need to take a course again
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dude
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i just ask win32
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i don't know a single thing about ASM
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anyways
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try that
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For the last 10 mins I seriously forgot how bytes worked, lol
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Okay, let's try it
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Alright... It worked, but not really
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It's under the word Manager 😂
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@win32 This has been set correctly, right?
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Sorry for bothering
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i said to jump to 1800176BCh not 18001769dh
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Thought so
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Okay. I cannot exactly jump to that offset
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I can only jump to the closest loc, which is 0x1800176B1 (edited)
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did you type in "jmp 1800176BCh"
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Did it right before you posted the message 😂
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The fucking short
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ImSwordQueen 09/05/2022 20:37
any update? 👀
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i need
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to fuckin uhhh
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get 8.0 installed
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so i csn test faster
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8400 m2 fuck it
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ImSwordQueen 09/05/2022 21:02
i wonder how tihiy managed to remove the white hardcoded part of explorer
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@ImSwordQueen i could swear aero glass worked even without gpu drivers
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ImSwordQueen 09/05/2022 21:07
On 8400 it did
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no like
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on 9600 too
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ImSwordQueen 09/05/2022 21:08
huh
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i had 9600 without gpu drivers and aero at one point
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ImSwordQueen 09/05/2022 21:08
i wonder what big muscle did
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Man
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If only glass8 was open source
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So we could see what the hell is going on
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either way i don't need aero to fuck around with uDWM
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ImSwordQueen 09/05/2022 21:10
Yeah
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so time to begin the cookage
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ImSwordQueen 09/05/2022 21:10
Udwm is software rendered too so who cares
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good enough
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ImSwordQueen 09/05/2022 21:15
Man. That looks cool as fuck imo
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now the glow is fixed
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@win32 This has been set correctly, right?
jmp to the next loc
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@ImSwordQueen your wish has been granted
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also
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do you notice something
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actually i should ask
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is it actually working
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glow seems a bit faint (edited)
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739.5 KB
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ok time's up for this install
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time to install amd drivers
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done
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killed the 8.0 install
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challenge nomorebugcheck on 8.0
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i wonder if the confidential wmark was a ifdef switched thing or a thing that can be switched on and off on shell32
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probably the aforementioned
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Vruh 2
jmp to the next loc
Oh fuck. forgot to upload my patched uDWM
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I used a little bit of a different approach than win32's, but seems to work fine
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did you xor edi directly?
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You guessed
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What's the best 7 theme for 8?
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 05:21
Vruh's modification
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This one?
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 05:22
That one has a bug iirc
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Where should I look then
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 05:26
If you want to download an almost 1 gb pack for just the theme my transformation pack has it
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Oof, large. My internet's really bad since the end of April
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 05:50
I would have gave you it if i had it rn
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 14:12
always based vruh2
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 14:13
@E2
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ImSwordQueen
always based vruh2
I would've been based if I uploaded it yesterday troll
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ImSwordQueen
@E2
the Door guy 10/05/2022 14:33
works on 8.1?
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 14:33
how do you want me to call you here btw
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ImSwordQueen
how do you want me to call you here btw
ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 14:34
because i don't know
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oh
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Vruh 2
Click to see attachment 🖼️
the Door guy 10/05/2022 14:34
is this for 8.1 or 8.0 only?
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 14:34
8.0
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the Door guy 10/05/2022 14:34
is there one for 8.1?
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 14:35
a private dll yes. the method is already public if you want to scroll up
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the Door guy 10/05/2022 14:37
i cant tell which one is for 8.1
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 14:37
the method. not the dll
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the Door guy 10/05/2022 14:37
is it hard?
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 14:37
the dll has not been published
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no
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it's only a hex patch
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the Door guy 10/05/2022 14:38
does it break my os?
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 14:38
no
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the Door guy 10/05/2022 14:38
patching shell32?
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 14:38
no
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it's literally udwm
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the Door guy 10/05/2022 14:38
oh
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this?
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 14:39
yes
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it should be FA the new value or something
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or F6
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ImSwordQueen
because i don't know
Haha
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AAT or sha05 is good
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 14:41
ok it's F3
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E2
AAT or sha05 is good
ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 14:41
👍
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based AAT troll
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the Door guy 10/05/2022 14:42
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00011060?
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@ImSwordQueen am i looking at the right part?
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 14:44
yes
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the Door guy 10/05/2022 14:45
@ImSwordQueen now, where is the thing that does the offset titlebar stuff
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 14:45
replace 00 00 00 00
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That looks nice
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 14:45
with F3 FF FF FF
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Scamdisk
😳😳😳😳😳
ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 14:45
don't give me hope.
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8R? Cool mod
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 14:46
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ImSwordQueen
replace 00 00 00 00
the Door guy 10/05/2022 14:46
from 0B to 0E
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 14:46
the last 00 00 00 00 (edited)
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the Door guy 10/05/2022 14:46
ok
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got it
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obivous joke, mod won't come back
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the Door guy 10/05/2022 14:46
gonna change this
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or will it?
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 14:46
no
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Find out in the next season
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 14:47
literally this
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Breaking bad plays
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the Door guy 10/05/2022 14:47
ik
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i think i did it correctly
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ig time to test
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time to restart ig
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Update the checksum too
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And you can just restart DWM in the task manager (edited)
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Update the checksum too
the Door guy 10/05/2022 14:51
how?
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and is it not necessary
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Usually it is very much necessary
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But you can try without (edited)
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E2
But you can try without (edited)
the Door guy 10/05/2022 14:52
should i take the risk
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Restart DWM and see what happens
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the Door guy 10/05/2022 14:53
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end task and run dwm.exe?
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Ah, cool. No need then
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Nvm
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Yes. dwm will restart itself (edited)
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the Door guy 10/05/2022 14:54
wish me good luck
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YAYYY
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the Door guy 10/05/2022 14:55
oops
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btw im still using jan 2022 windows 7 theme
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should i change my theme to vruhs one?
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snowy but consistently left aligned
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the Door guy 10/05/2022 15:04
@ImSwordQueen applying the 7 styled copying window is hard, no?
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:05
you need test mode
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the Door guy 10/05/2022 15:05
...nah not gonna bother
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mfw there's more at the bottom of 8.0's store
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:22
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ah, Windows 8.1U1 feature
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:23
no glow oh
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wtf 8R 2
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@ImSwordQueen is the glow on 8.0 fucked up
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or does it need no offset patch shit
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E2
I would've been based if I uploaded it yesterday troll
hey. this is a collective effort between you me and win32 (he helps us with asm) 🛒
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Vruh 2
@ImSwordQueen is the glow on 8.0 fucked up
ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:35
there's no glow
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wait what
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the fuck
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that isn't supposed to happ
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en
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@E2 bo
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:35
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no glow near the text
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Vruh 2
hey. this is a collective effort between you me and win32 (he helps us with asm) 🛒
Lol
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disable the glow on aero glass settings
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ImSwordQueen
Click to see attachment 🖼️
There is glow, but it's kinda faint don't you think
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E2
There is glow, but it's kinda faint don't you think
i thought the same
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I also noticed that. No idea why 🤷‍♂️
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i can see it on an opaque theme
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:36
on 8.1
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yeah it's noticeably stronger on 8.1 (edited)
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wonder if there's something else to the patch
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Are some values getting messed with?
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:37
no glow
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atlas theme
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atlas theme and themes opacity
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theme settings
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they look the same
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It's noticeable, just really weak
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yeah it all looks the same to me
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put it against a black background
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:38
theme settings
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it's there
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:38
no glow
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it's ALWAYS there
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what the fuck
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that is actually odd
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i can definitely see it
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Maybe we shouldn't have directly xor'd edi?
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:39
let me check if with an another aeroglass tool does something
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And instead took win32's approach with r8d
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:39
like
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not even caption text colors work on aeroglassGUI
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E2
Maybe we shouldn't have directly xor'd edi?
i don't think this is a consequence of that
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Who knows?
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:40
most likely aeroglassGUI not liking 8.0?
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I went with r8d because r8d is the final result that is placed into the class. edi is merely added to r8d.
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Yes, but that might still make difference
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you can see the glow right
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it's there (edited)
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we're only tampering with it's position
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ofc, ofc
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:41
ok i see it here
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Vruh 2
we're only tampering with it's position
Yes, but we might've impacted passage of some other value. Or maybe there is indeed more to patch
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Scamdisk
ofc, ofc
ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:42
patch it trol
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ImSwordQueen
ok i see it here
i think this actually looks more accurate to 7 than 8.1's glow
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welp time to install 8.1 and update it's apps and get that one config needed to patch it
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:42
wait no
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i'll give it to you rn
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hold up
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god rectify11 bootux is hot 🥵
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amoled boot loader 🥵
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8400 M2
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which one
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:44
pro
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it's based on pro after all
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They customized bootux?
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:44
yeah
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ImSwordQueen
it's based on pro after all
it's based
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That's impressive
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:44
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How the hell?
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:45
uifiles
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directui strikes again
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I don't remember seeing any UIFILE in the dll
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Unless they decrypted whatver these files were
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:45
on 8.1+ uifiles are encrypted
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you need uib2t103 (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:46
or whatever is called
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is it unencrypted on 8.0 and older?
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:46
idk on 8.0
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on 7 yeah
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and 8 betas as well
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Seeing no results on Google
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for whatever reason 8.0 and 8.1's explorer doesn't support hover on the show desktop button
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ex7for8 fixes this
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yeah lemme check twinui.dll
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it has that smooth look to it but it can be easily fixed on the msstyles
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8.1 however
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uh
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!
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:47
wtf you made me noticed @Vruh 2
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i hate you for this
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Vruh 2
ex7for8 fixes this
I was baffled when I found 7600 explorer and 8441 shell32 in SwordKing's metroless mod
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So that's what it is
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ImSwordQueen
i hate you for this
how have you not noticed it
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:47
i never noticed it
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I was baffled when I found 7600 explorer and 8441 shell32 in SwordKing's metroless mod
ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:47
8441 shell32 is only for the watermark lol
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I didn't know you can transplant shell32 just like that
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:48
it depends on what build you choose
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8441 is really close to 9200
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And why would you want that watermark? Immersion?
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it makes me wonder if the confidential wmark is a switch on off thing on shell32 or a compiler option
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idk seems like they are encrypted on 8.0
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:48
reasons trol
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probably the latter
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SwordKing, could you send the decrypting thing here
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I can't find anything
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considering i've seen #ifdef __PRERELEASE on the xp source a couple of times (edited)
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also
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Oops
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:49
:trollformation:
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no nqn oh
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Damn, still no pinning perms :(
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@E2 what's our next step in our 8.x efforts
ImSwordQueen pinned a message to this channel. 10/05/2022 15:50
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:50
van.dll (edited)
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caption buttons?
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hm
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:50
trol
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i really wish i knew where to look
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Vruh 2
@E2 what's our next step in our 8.x efforts
I only can think of window buttons and the glows.
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:50
remove
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i think the glows are acceptable for now
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But I need to be done with exams, then take an ASM course
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:51
bring back
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we could probably try comparing 7850's uDWM and or maybe win32k with some other build with symbols
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late 81xx van8.dll could serve as base since there's builds without RP that have it
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7850 still had old button metrics
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What's van for?
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literally the last build
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and yeah
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what the fuck is van.dll
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:51
this
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ImSwordQueen
bring back
this damn dialog
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:52
i tried porting the uifiles to the 9600 one
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failed
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oh
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it's not the same as usercpl
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of course you got deactivated you piece of shit
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what theme are you using
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it looks like mine but
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:53
yours
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doesn't that have a bug on 8.0 or
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:53
before you fucked it up
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Oh! Let's make an open source version of Aeroglass troll
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ImSwordQueen
before you fucked it up
icup
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:53
wait
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this tool has this
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i wonder
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:torl :
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:54
if this brings glass to software dwm
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ImSwordQueen
before you fucked it up
bro u
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j
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i
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:54
gave you up
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tried desimplex-fying the theme
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:55
ye i know
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it failed
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not entirely
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:55
you have to accept failures
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it has the corner shit which i could try fixing
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ImSwordQueen
you have to accept failures
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why does it not look failed here
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what
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not even here
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what
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where did it fail
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:57
is it the pinned one
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it sounds like you had a major skill issue and my theme accounted for that by failing on you
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:57
or the one i sent
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ImSwordQueen
is it the pinned one
i
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don't know
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i forgor (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:57
💀
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:57
@Scamdisk
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works for zunevideo as well
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Unrelated, but is it normal that Steam doesn't show pages on 8?
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does my theme work with ex7for8
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:57
yeah
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good
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:58
btw vruh
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how do you rate project 8400?
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so far
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:58
even without glass trol
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Unrelated, but is it normal that Steam doesn't show pages on 8?
This happened on project 8400 M1
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haven't tried it for more than 5 minutes
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but fun fact i'm installing it on a vm right now
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Unrelated, but is it normal that Steam doesn't show pages on 8?
ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:58
uhhhhh
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:58
i should try it on my 8.0 install
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idk
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this sounds like a weird issue
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uh the glow here looks stupid faint too
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is this an 8.0 thing
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:59
that's with glass?
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negativo
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:59
check with glass
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wait
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what vmware tools are you using
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i'm using vmware 9
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bo
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 15:59
oh ok
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Yeah, I also had that
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On actual hardware by the way
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n o yeah
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it looks mad faint
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this looks exactly like 8 rp
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i don't care about the little ass differences
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this looks like 8rp
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 16:00
vmware fucked glass on vmware workstation 12+ on 8.0
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On actual hardware by the way
What about that?
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Vruh 2
this looks like 8rp
ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 16:00
except for the fucking pane that i forgor 💀 to include
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is ux theme patched already
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or is this uhh
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 16:00
yes
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obv
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ok thank
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let me get my uDWM
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 16:01
i couldn't include the modified theme without modded uxtheme (edited)
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holy shit
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i have brain issues today
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take this as reference
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before i install uDWM
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 16:01
hmhm
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it looks exactly the same
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the glow that is
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 16:02
it's there
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8.0 issue or non issue idk
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 16:03
it's surely a 8.0 thing
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btw on 8.0 the titlebar text is perfect
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this is amazing
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uxtheme is not patched 💀
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 16:04
it is though
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because the theme is fucking modified
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it just changed my theme to aerolite
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 16:05
bruh what
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 16:05
it should work wtf
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probably bad theme file?
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or idk
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uhhhhh
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Uh
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 16:06
yeah i told you it was patched (edited)
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i'm ACTUALLY
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FUCKING
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BLIND
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i put the fucking theme files on resources 💀
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 16:06
horny
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bruh
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cacophony
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in visual form
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 16:07
free radio
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no bugs bro
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it works fine for me
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 16:08
with the pinned theme?
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yeah
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 16:08
wtf
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then what did happen with the 8.1 one
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skill issue probably
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 16:08
whyyy
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8.1 ads whyyy
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wtf no piracy needed?!?!?
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depression
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idk about you bro but the theme looks fire here
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 16:12
let me check real quick on 8.1 again
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man i cannot fucking apply aerolite on my 8.1 install 💀
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 16:23
if it wasn't for the ayyymd drivers were you going to switch vruh? trol
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i still think 8.0 is stupid lol!!!!!!!
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owned
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massively owned
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 16:24
!brazil @Vruh 2 592386278362762767267d bully
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my efforts to 8.0 are not because i like the os it's because it must be done (edited)
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i couldn't go a day longer seeing 8.0 with the stupid headass centered titlebar
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 16:26
bruh you sound like daniel
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who said i'm not daniel
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 16:26
damn damiel
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with the white vans
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damn daniel
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@E2 again our next effort whenever we do start that effort is in the caption buttons
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Sure, lol. See you in June
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can the 8.x maniacs wait any longer
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 16:30
i don't use weak 7 glass
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i use chad Consumer Preview glass 😎
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that glow
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christ
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 16:34
cope trol
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i always choose the worst wallpapers for a black titlebar text
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so the glow is necessary
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Putting the grey title bar effect from 79xx builds in 8 on my to-do...
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 19:47
@Vruh 2 are you going to update the taskbar of 7 explorer in the theme or will you keep it like it is now? (edited)
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just asking so i don't upload the transformation pack with the old one but with the newer theme instead (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 20:48
ok pack mostly done
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Last thing missing is the thumbnail and its ready (unless vruh2 does the theme then i have to include that)
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the the what of what in the who when where
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 21:11
This taskbar@Vruh 2
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what do you want me to do
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the fact it fucking glows is because of ex7for8
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unless you mean the show desktop button tex
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then yeah i can change it
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 21:12
yeah that
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ok one moment
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 21:13
Also
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Does the 8 taskbar show desktop react to tablet mode
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yeah
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 21:14
i suppose it doesn't on 8.1
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And what about the color being wrong?
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actually dont bother with that
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ImSwordQueen
i suppose it doesn't on 8.1
naw
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 21:16
it's fucking stupid because glass8 affects it for some reason
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it isn't a thing on the 8.1 explorer
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 21:17
i don't even know why the hell the color is right when glass8 is disabled and not when its enabled. Fucking 7 explorer being awful on 8
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done i suppose
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 21:17
Huh
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It changes a lot
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what
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i changed the texture and 7tt'd so it's 15px
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 21:18
With one button change the taskbar feels like more like 7's
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Even if the texture is DP's
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what
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the texture is 7's
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 21:19
Wait really
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I thought it was a dp leftover bs
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the taskbar is just 7's
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 21:20
eh forget it
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what is the dp part
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 21:21
This taskbar
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no it's 7's texture
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ImSwordQueen 10/05/2022 21:21
But now looking at it
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Its not the same
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Yeah
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For some reason i thought it was the same (edited)
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Here it uses the 7 one
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I should get some sleep holy shit
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ty for taking your time to patch the show desktop button and dealing with me lol
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ImSwordQueen 11/05/2022 17:18
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I almost got it working too
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So how did you go around it? (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 11/05/2022 17:20
that's the deletion dialog for the recycle bin
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the normal copy dialog is the 8.x one
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Implying that recycle bin still uses the older dialog?
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ImSwordQueen
Click to see attachment 🖼️
told you my theme isn't bugged
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ImSwordQueen 11/05/2022 17:20
yep
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What. How did I never notice that
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ImSwordQueen 11/05/2022 17:21
only on 8.0 that happens
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on 8.1 they patched it
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I sorta got it working. The old dialog appears for like half a second before explorer crashes
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ImSwordQueen 11/05/2022 17:21
you can patch it on 8.1 trol
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on 8.0 you can't oh
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Yes, it's weird
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Maybe someone should attach a debugger
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ImSwordQueen 11/05/2022 17:24
how does that look?
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ImSwordQueen 12/05/2022 18:06
time to say goodbye to my oldest 8.x install (not really because i have a version stored on the old drive)
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ImSwordQueen 12/05/2022 18:14
welp i fucked up explorer so bad that now taskmgr requires uac every time to open
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ImSwordQueen 12/05/2022 21:04
i now see why i didnt want to reinstall
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language packs take ages
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ImSwordQueen 12/05/2022 21:43
Krita 5.0.6 (x64) is advertised as 8.1 and up only but works on 8.0 🤔
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Holy shit my laptop is cursed with metro apps
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Even with a new install the weather app is still cooked
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Obv i say that and now it works
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@ImSwordQueen should i...
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i...
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main windows 8.1...
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i never thought i'd say this in my lifetime
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stupid STUPID windows 8
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ImSwordQueen 13/05/2022 05:06
If you want
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finished installing this mf os on my entire ssd
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shame it won't look like this very soon
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ImSwordQueen 13/05/2022 05:25
Why dont you make something else with your 8.1 install instead of making it the same copy of 7 every time
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🤔
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just install 7 xddddd
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ImSwordQueen
Why dont you make something else with your 8.1 install instead of making it the same copy of 7 every time
because 78.1 (edited)
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funny
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ImSwordQueen 13/05/2022 05:26
Yeah that's funny actually
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FA isn't really that close
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ImSwordQueen 13/05/2022 05:34
It was f3
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Or f4
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Most likely f4
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f2 nails it
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ImSwordQueen 13/05/2022 05:35
Huh
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f2 nails it so hard i fell from my chair
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also why is there no themeres on system32
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wf
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wtf
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ImSwordQueen 13/05/2022 05:37
You forgor
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forfor ☠️ what
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ImSwordQueen 13/05/2022 05:37
To put your themeres in system32
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i put it there
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it changed nothing
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ImSwordQueen 13/05/2022 05:37
🤔
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je💀sus
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f2 death
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it was good until i opened this window
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ImSwordQueen 13/05/2022 05:38
f
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The offset gets real
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it's ok it's ok
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literally only that window is that small
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ok i'll complete the rest of da transformation later
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i have to sleep
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it's like
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2:37 am for me (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 13/05/2022 05:41
Bru
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ImSwordQueen 13/05/2022 05:42
Don't install 78.1 at 3am (not clickbait) (police called)
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are 8.1 window animations like
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slightly different from 7
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ImSwordQueen 13/05/2022 16:41
got accuweather to work now too
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ImSwordQueen 13/05/2022 17:32
I FORGOT ABOUT THIS
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WHATTTTT
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this version of this charms bar is wayyyy better than the 8.1 version
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why did they scrapped this
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because start button
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ImSwordQueen 13/05/2022 18:09
oh yeah.
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the downgrade...
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then again, start button wasnt a thing until 94xx
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well outside of ux lab
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the start button could've not existed
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they could've made that corner easily clickable on desktop though
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because afair you have to kinda drag your mouse up on 8.0 to get to the start screen
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people would had still raged because "where start button"
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honestly, the 8102 charms position was way better on desktop
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but that also means there has to be a start button
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ImSwordQueen 13/05/2022 18:16
i wonder why they cut the mini charms bar
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ImSwordQueen
I FORGOT ABOUT THIS
that i think
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but frankly they should had used the normal taskbar for metro shit too
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Scamdisk
people would had still raged because "where start button"
why not just press windows smh
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Deleted User 13/05/2022 19:29
because most people don't use key combos
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other than ctrl-c/v
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even then, there's people that might not know what that is
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Deleted User 13/05/2022 19:39
depends if you use a keyboard from 2004 or not
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i mean the windows logo isn't that diff but still
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windows logo now is just MS logo but all blue
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Deleted User 13/05/2022 19:48
who remembers this logo anyways winnt
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would be a short time before colored windows logos are forgotton due to the shitty incoming generations
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Deleted User
would be a short time before colored windows logos are forgotton due to the shitty incoming generations
feels weird to realize that children younger than windows 10 can already speak, walk and use computers
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Deleted User 13/05/2022 19:54
my 6 year old brothers can do powerpoints
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its scary
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death
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RayZen
feels weird to realize that children younger than windows 10 can already speak, walk and use computers
ImSwordQueen 13/05/2022 19:54
Lies
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Deleted User 13/05/2022 19:54
no
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unless you want children that are 6-7 not speaking and walking?
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ImSwordQueen 13/05/2022 19:55
oh
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Deleted User 13/05/2022 19:55
?????
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smh
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windows 10 is 7 and i remember exactly what i did when i first installed it on release date oh
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ImSwordQueen 13/05/2022 19:56
Windows 7 is xp
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Deleted User 13/05/2022 19:56
windows xp is nt4
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i remember we made the gwx thing download once it was released and then it was downloaded by the day it released
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we installed it
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ImSwordQueen 13/05/2022 19:56
Nt4 is ms dos
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i tested nfsu2 to see if it still worked
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it did
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then i went to play minecraft iirc
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then i tested the game bar shit if that existed back then
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did it
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Deleted User 13/05/2022 19:57
i recall no one upgrading to windows 10 when it was released
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(locally)
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ImSwordQueen 13/05/2022 19:57
Cool story related about windows 8
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i remember playing minecraft and then it popped up saying i could record shit
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i was like
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yo
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let's fucking go
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and then i recorded myself making some piston machine
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ImSwordQueen 13/05/2022 19:58
twitch integration
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Deleted User 13/05/2022 19:58
nerd
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ImSwordQueen 13/05/2022 19:58
oh
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  • shitty piston machine that did nothing
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Deleted User 13/05/2022 19:58
lmao
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ImSwordQueen 13/05/2022 19:58
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Deleted User 13/05/2022 19:58
very windows 8
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ImSwordQueen 13/05/2022 19:58
Click the right one
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click it
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RayZen
feels weird to realize that children younger than windows 10 can already speak, walk and use computers
also to be fair
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i was already using computers when i was 5
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or 6
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i know by 6 years old i could already navigate the web by myself and type shit
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Deleted User 13/05/2022 19:59
i had a windows 95 computer when i was 5
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i "started" using computers when i was 4
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my grandma would type out the sites
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i would do the rest
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aka play fucking flash games
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Deleted User 13/05/2022 20:00
can't tell you when exactly did i use computers but it was very early for me
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aka like 2-3 years old
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when i was 4 pretty sure i was playing games on xp all the time anyways
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so it doesn't seem absurd to me that kids aged 6 or 7 can use computers
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Deleted User 13/05/2022 20:00
have pics
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specially in this day and age
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when we're literally surrounded by fucking technology
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back in 2010 it was a different story
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ImSwordQueen 13/05/2022 20:01
Very related
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however i did have privilege of having an xp computer on the garage, someone who regularly used computers literally the next room and i got a playstation 2 very early on (maybe when i was 5?)
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ImSwordQueen 13/05/2022 20:02
:trol:
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Honestly aero and fluent still look good
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is that my edited wallpaper from eons ago?
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ImSwordQueen 13/05/2022 20:04
Yes
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lodocus
is that my edited wallpaper from eons ago?
i see you have found the term "eon"
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ImSwordQueen 13/05/2022 20:04
It was a long time ago
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before the windows-8 section turned into full tryhard 78.1
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ImSwordQueen 13/05/2022 20:04
I still have the og screenshot troll
👎 1
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trol
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honestly at this point all we do is tryhard transforming 8.1 into 7 🚎
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we'll never appreciate 8.1 as is
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ImSwordQueen 13/05/2022 20:06
You do*
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you made the pack
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you literally made the pack that started it
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ImSwordQueen 13/05/2022 20:06
oh
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the entire thing
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ImSwordQueen 13/05/2022 20:06
Depressing
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fuck 8.1 all my homies hate no aero
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so we 78.1 through life (edited)
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ImSwordQueen
Depressing
you can also kind thank my interest in 10 betas and then AAT for helping me use ida because then i went to try to fix getleftoffset on 8.0
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which also extended the 7 transformation hell
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and then you can thank simplex for giving me motivation to fix pinky's theme trol
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ImSwordQueen 13/05/2022 20:08
trol
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Man this
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And this were in the same machine
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tfGlad
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i almost thought
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we had left text back in 2020
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then i looked closer
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oh
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ImSwordQueen 13/05/2022 20:10
Also big caption button
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i'm going insane
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ImSwordQueen 13/05/2022 20:12
Now the only thing missing on 8.0 is the caption button size
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Of the close button
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On 8.1 it will require more work
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how is that so
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ImSwordQueen 13/05/2022 20:26
Cuz on 8.1 you still got a lot of centered stuff
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On 7 with ex7forw8 most stuff got uncentered
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ImSwordQueen 13/05/2022 20:46
i love windows 8 fucking dying by opening the context menu
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on 8.1
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what if
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@ImSwordQueen new threat to da 78.1 cause
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this mf be too damn blobby n shit!!!
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too BRIGHT!!!!
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how it waz in 7
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nice n subtle but still there
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NEED... TO... FIX
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lean glow confirmed
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@ImSwordQueen so uhh
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pinky showed me an automated method of porting 7 themes to 8.1
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uhh
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it did not work so here i am manually porting this fucking theme
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god help me
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and yes i'm missing a shellstyle
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fucking wsb deleting the shellstyle
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anyways this theme was literally made to be ported to 8.1
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it has no caption button glows
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no overlays
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nothing 8.1 doesn't have
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and wsb crashed before i even got to save
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😐
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ImSwordQueen 14/05/2022 05:11
F
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how am i even supposed to do this
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i'm sure there must be a like
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correct way
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Hello everyone, have you ever wondered or wished that some of of your coolest windows 7 theme should have been built for 8 & 8.1? Don't you worry, in this tutorial I will teach how to successfully port a windows 7 theme to 8 & 8.1 Hassle free, easy steps with pictures. Special thanks to
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i tried this mf's method
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it doesn't work at all
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ImSwordQueen 14/05/2022 05:13
Most likely is to port everything manually
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pinky told me about that dude's method
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she said it works fine
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i can't get it to work at all
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i tried literally 2 themes
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ImSwordQueen 14/05/2022 05:41
Have you tried the default 7 theme?
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i can try it but i certify it won't work
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ImSwordQueen 14/05/2022 05:49
Maybe that might work trol
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i give you my certification it won't work
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not working guaranteed
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what a surprise
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me when when i channel my inner @ImSwordQueen
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ImSwordQueen 14/05/2022 06:36
🤔
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Vruh 2
i was already using computers when i was 5
i was already using computers when i was 2
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Deleted User 14/05/2022 22:26
old or new?
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ImSwordQueen 14/05/2022 22:27
new obv
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Deleted User 14/05/2022 22:29
thought that existed before
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that's why i asked
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ImSwordQueen 14/05/2022 22:29
oh
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i was going to replace the old post with the new one but because some chinese people were stealing my screenshot and passing it off as theirs. i choosen to keep it
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@ImSwordQueen my hatred for windows 8.1 is so fucking massive
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i hate this os with all of my forces
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stupid headass os that can't stop breaking for no good fucking reason
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of course i got a black screen and this time i tried everything
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looking into regedit for the theme manager shit
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nothing
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it was all Aero.msstyles
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deleted testing from windows style builder
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put aero.msstyles on aero7
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and renamed
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everything
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this stupid fucking os can't stop breaking because of themes
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oooh the theme isn't right * breaks dwm completely and makes os completely unusable *
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stupid headass os
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dwm moment
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and here's the best part
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it breaks when i literally don't have a windows 8 usb stick
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i was literally about to do some stuff on this live ubuntu usb
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ubuntu
yeah... install it and nuke snap
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then it just fucking dies and now i somehow have to deal with that shit before i can even proceed to do what i was going to do
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no i'm not gonna install ubuntu
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jk jk
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i hate windows 8
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i hate windows 8 so much
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why did i not just go with windows 10
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why did i have to differ
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atleast with 10 i know i can't modify so i don't try it
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now how the fuck do i even fix this stupid os
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Go for it, modded 10 (LTSC or ReviOS) with some tweaks is really good to use
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im using macos mojave now :D
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E2
Go for it, modded 10 (LTSC or ReviOS) with some tweaks is really good to use
now i'm already all set up on 8.1
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Good for you
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meanwhile i sometimes hate resource hacker, it breaks basebrd.dll.mui if i modify it too much
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doom
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i also have snow leo and mavericks on multiboot, i will install tiger and windows xp soon too
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besides
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i wish there was an actual patch that allowed the os to run without dwm with no issues
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like
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the os wouldn't mind the lack of dwm and keep running but would also work with dwm
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8.0 can run without much issues if you patch it enough
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to not use dwm
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and ex7forw8 is a thing so ofc there's a non-dwm dependent explorer replacement
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i'm not even sure what theme my 8.1 install is using
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both theme manager keys say aero.msstyles
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very clearly it's not the case
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guess you got the unlucky side of the stick because it would usually default to aerolite or default aero if theme is something it doesnt like
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it never defaults to aerolite for me
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never
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or not change theme at all
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nor aero
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it just dies
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always
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no exception
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ik 8.0 doesnt even change theme if it sees a broken one
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well if it's applied from proprieties
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somehow fixed it
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still hate windows 8.1
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holy shit how amazing
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i've restarted my computer so many times i actually killed my laptop drive which was nearly dying because i had to force 8.1 to go into automatic repair
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nevermind
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for some reason it was clicking
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on my usbhdd adapter
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go figure
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yep it's still working had to reformat the drive connected to sata then i put it back on the adapter now it stopped clicking
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ImSwordQueen 15/05/2022 08:43
I had to remove the pack from deviantart as i made a big mistake and didn't ask the og owner of the wallpaper if i couldve release it
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i fucked up big time
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Mistakes happen
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Don't worry, I also almost lost my account today
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ImSwordQueen 15/05/2022 08:52
nitro scam? (edited)
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Violating ToS by using betterdiscord
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Did you get confronted, anyway? (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 15/05/2022 08:54
I asked him and i didn't wait for a response (edited)
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Got called out? Or it just hit you?
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ImSwordQueen 15/05/2022 08:55
He told me to wait until he releases the glass pack
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Glass interface kit pack (edited)
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Ah, sure enough. We can wait
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ImSwordQueen 15/05/2022 08:58
I will remove it and still release it as it is
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reuploaded with a different wallpaper and removed the one which i didn't have permission to use
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Deleted User 15/05/2022 19:10
if you just somehow fixed those smaller windows like in winver
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you know made the close button wider
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ImSwordQueen 15/05/2022 19:15
beg @Vruh 2 to find a way trol
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it's udwm shit
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i'm the worst person to ask
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ask @E2 once he finds time
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or beg for a collaboration between win32 and him and maybe me
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i only found the left text shit on uDWM because i kinda knew what GetLeftOffset was supposed to do
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win32 confirmed it (edited)
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and then i went ahead and did the patch
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a caucasian aat i believe found DwmTextAligned on the same place as i found the inlined GetLeftOffset (edited)
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before i even got there
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ImSwordQueen 15/05/2022 19:19
the trol emoji is there because i was joking
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you never know
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it might be a reality sometime trol
ImSwordQueen pinned a message to this channel. 15/05/2022 20:37
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ImSwordQueen 15/05/2022 20:39
because this shit is public now. time to post it here too (8.1 fixed left alignment)
ImSwordQueen pinned a message to this channel. 15/05/2022 20:39
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what (edited)
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wasn't it fixed already
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ImSwordQueen 15/05/2022 21:14
yeah but it wasn't pinned
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 11:33
fat winver
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8102 with redpill moment
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 11:41
rip fat winver but rip ms confidential watermark too 😢
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if only 8520 leaked in x64 (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 11:44
but instead it got leaked in arm32
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we got trolled
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oh
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 16:07
ok cool. making authui's uifiles into their unencrypted format doesn't kill windows. IT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE
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holy hell
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 16:08
this is the proof that it's modified
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so no weird locks and shit.
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the Door guy 16/05/2022 16:34
@ImSwordQueen send ur themeui or whatever it was called. i wanna make it so personalization ALWAYS works
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 16:37
Literally get the 7tsp back and apply that
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Pack
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ImSwordQueen
ok cool. making authui's uifiles into their unencrypted format doesn't kill windows. IT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE
Deflattening the login ui you mean?
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ImSwordQueen
Literally get the 7tsp back and apply that
the Door guy 16/05/2022 16:38
i did
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docR
Deflattening the login ui you mean?
ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 16:38
Yeeep
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Then what are you doing at themeui to mess it up
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ImSwordQueen
Yeeep
Bruh 👀
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 16:40
8.0 only for now trol
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ImSwordQueen
ok cool. making authui's uifiles into their unencrypted format doesn't kill windows. IT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE
Deleted User 16/05/2022 16:40
woah based
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disable redpill for 8.0 rtm when
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ImSwordQueen
8.0 only for now trol
the Door guy 16/05/2022 16:40
ffs (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 16:41
Honestly i should make a donation page so people can support me making bad decisions trol
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Deleted User 16/05/2022 16:41
lmao
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i would give you my toenail
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 16:41
Ahmadb go to brazil
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NOW
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Deleted User 16/05/2022 16:41
ok
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someone brazil
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ImSwordQueen
Honestly i should make a donation page so people can support me making bad decisions trol
#RadMorning 16/05/2022 16:42
and good Windows 8 mods
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-brazil @Deleted User 5m
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dynoSuccess ahmadb#8160 was muted
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Deleted User 16/05/2022 16:49
Obrigado scamdisk por me conceder o maravilhoso presente de visitar o rio de janeiro!! (edited)
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moment
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 16:52
wait
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that's 8.x right?
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yes
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8.1
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Deleted User 16/05/2022 16:52
what based firefox is that
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 16:52
i can't tell with those titlebar caption buttons
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Deleted User
what based firefox is that
ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 16:52
91 esr?
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91.9.0 esr
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with docr's custom css
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 16:52
yep i was correct
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Deleted User 16/05/2022 16:52
ah
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the css
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 16:53
i was going to be surprised if it was 100 or something like that
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tbh it could work
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had to first install lepton then docr's css
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well yeah, it can work on 100
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Scamdisk
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the Door guy 16/05/2022 17:01
y u no use dtm 08??
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:01
that looks better
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he's running :)
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Deleted User 16/05/2022 17:04
all these 8 themed 7 pics are making my heart ache
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i want my 7 themed vista back😩
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:04
what happen
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anyway, any plans for a similar pack for 8.x to vista /s
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ImSwordQueen
what happen
Deleted User 16/05/2022 17:04
computer die
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cpu burned from being run at 100 degrees for god knows how long
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anyway, any plans for a similar pack for 8.x to vista /s
ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:05
uhhhh
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don't tell win32 about this
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but
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something is in the works
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Deleted User 16/05/2022 17:05
noice
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:05
but probably will never come out
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Deleted User 16/05/2022 17:06
why not
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i'd main 8 again (edited)
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something i haven't done in over 3 years
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:06
because i'm kinda tired of making transformation packs
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Deleted User 16/05/2022 17:06
ah
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take a rest then
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:07
also
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something similar is already out
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me when office refresh on 8.1
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:08
not 2206
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:08
0/10
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As the name implies, this is a transformation pack of sorts that gives Windows 8.1's interface an Aero fit and finish. It isn't based on any one OS in particula
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called like that so a certain librarian doesn't get killed tr
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will install that soon and recreate that one 2016, 2019 and 2021 licenses all at the same time thing
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:10
i tried still having mondo 2016 on insider
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but it still kicked me out of mondo
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oh (edited)
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Deleted User 16/05/2022 17:10
i see
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ImSwordQueen
called like that so a certain librarian doesn't get killed tr
Deleted User 16/05/2022 17:10
lol
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:10
so this exists. insider LTSC
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it's still enrolled inside the insider program
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somehow
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is it dogfood
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:11
nope
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normal beta
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Deleted User 16/05/2022 17:11
just like windows ltsc has an insider program
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:12
that does not get updates though tr
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well tho it obivously doesn't work
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Scamdisk
me when office refresh on 8.1
Deleted User 16/05/2022 17:12
nice cracked office
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:12
meanwhile this ltsc can get updates
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and there's like only one build leaked in client ltsc
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you know, 18282
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:13
thank you microsoft for making office 365 and ltsc in the same package 🙏
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that only requires a swap to get the right sku
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all of them are office 16
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it's only licensing that decides which "version" of office you have
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:14
yep
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imagine that on windows
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Deleted User 16/05/2022 17:14
wow
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:14
for all skus
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that might happen with the wcos thing for all ik
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:15
but well
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wcos fails everytime
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for whatever reason (edited)
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ms just can't ship wcos to consumer desktop
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:15
or phones
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that one is sorta understandable, they didn't want another windows phone after all
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:16
rip andromedaOS oh
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an andromedaos build will never get leaked
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and the polaris build i "leaked" isn't interesing at all
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:17
brb going to gus house and kidnap him
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LITERALLY DISCORD ISN'T LETTING ME PUT /S
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/s (edited)
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brb going to gus' house and steal 8250 x64 /s (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:18
tbf
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didn't gus help zac with andromeda?
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yeah he did
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:18
so i'm pretty sure that he still has some files of andromedaOS trol
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mfw windows thinks a 4.20gb file is too large for a drive with that much free space (edited)
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oh wait forgor, fat32
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oh
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:27
ok modding it even does not kill it. this confirms it to be moddable
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So could be possible to somehow port 7 authui stuff into it
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Yes
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So could be possible to somehow port 7 authui stuff into it
ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:37
nope
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too different
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something similar can be made though
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What about skinning it somewhat)
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Just the buttons
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:37
skinning it yes
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There ya go
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:37
that's what i'm doing
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I wouldn't mind solid bg if it had nice icons at least
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ImSwordQueen
that's what i'm doing
Based
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:39
btw i'm going to release this for a price trol
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for doing the "impossible" that's the minimum tbf
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That's fair
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:41
you wanna know the price?
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1 pizza
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:42
no
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Or lasagna?
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Fettuccine?
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:42
i mean pizza is fine but it's not a food trol
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pizza is food but the price isn't
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whyyy (edited)
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You be promoted to server owner of ximonite and his gf's personal server, and be referred to as chairman?
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:43
something like that but not quite trol
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it starts with a trol
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You want admin isn't it
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:44
and finishes with r trol
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obv not
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trolr?
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:45
i don't wanna get brazilled whyyy
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With power comes no
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:50
damn 😔
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time to make it 99$ then
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trol
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That saying, what is the best ISO for the transformation pack
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:51
2021-xx for both versions
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What exactly you wanna make paid? (edited)
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ImSwordQueen
it starts with a trol
You want a letter of commendation for Fournier University to pursue your major in kernel extending? @win32
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ImSwordQueen
2021-xx for both versions
Where can I get one for 8.1?
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docR
You want a letter of commendation for Fournier University to pursue your major in kernel extending? @win32
ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:51
that doesn't end with r
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Thank you (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:52
ok it's advisor. i know that's too much but ok
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i get it
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You deserve some of that (edited)
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ImSwordQueen
ok it's advisor. i know that's too much but ok
That's not too much to ask
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:53
also this
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How about we strike a deal
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Don't get yourself braziled for 2 weeks
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And I'll put in good word trol
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:54
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But no random bickering with people and getting muted, advisors can't be doin that shit
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Just imagine when you can brazil them instead
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💀
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:55
17:56
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And welp I skull spammed again. Time to Brazil myself
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 17:56
you didn't spam
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bruj
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every single skull is spam
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change my mind
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but 😏 isn't
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:02
trol
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@ImSwordQueen i'm sword king do you know
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what is responsible
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for this
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i am sword king
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:05
sadly
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no
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i was trying to get that on project 8400
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never got it to work
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i put
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my FINGER
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on ExplorerFrame.dll
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:07
and
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you were wrong (edited)
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WTF!!!!
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:07
i already checked explorerframe uifiles (edited)
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does jack
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it's explorer frame on win7 though
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:07
on 8.0 that part does nothing
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remains white
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🤷‍♂️
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the idea is not that
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but ok
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:08
then what
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🤔 (edited)
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i suppose 8400 explorerframe.dll will just brick 8.0
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:08
oh b/f buttons?
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right
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Vruh 2
i suppose 8400 explorerframe.dll will just brick 8.0
ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:08
yep
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you can still access taskmgr to fix it
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stupid STUPID os (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:08
so it's not a hard brick
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on gaawwwddd can't even take a mod
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alright
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8400 doesn't matter to me
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:09
i mean
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that's kinda obvious lmao
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let's get straight to bricking
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send me 8102 explorerframe.dll
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:09
sure thing
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wait explorerframe.dll has uifile shit
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?
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:09
yes
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ahhh hell naaah
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:10
not my son
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aaahh heeel naaah i broke explorer!!!! wtf am i going to do??????!!!!!! WTF!!!!!
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damn daniele
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i did not expect this.............
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how am i going to fix this!
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:12
break authui trol
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does uhhh
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the uhh
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:13
black
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screen
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funny
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does the uhhhhh
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what the fuck was i going to ask
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forgor
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💀
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:13
💀
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also my start menu has been dead for so long
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:13
check if in sib you haven't disabled the thing
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if that's 8.1
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the What
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:14
nvm
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what
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what thing
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i am on 8.1!!
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:14
this
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yeah i was getting da screenshot
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:14
🤔
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i did the uhh
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win7 shortcuts thing
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i think that broke my start menu
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:14
it shouldn't break it
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odd
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try pinning stuff?
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nah pinned shit works fine
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search too
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:15
and it's back too trol
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this though
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no
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:15
oh that's back
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uhhh
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what
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try removing the shortcuts folder?
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that's odd
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i would try copying a shortcut into there but i think that does not work
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:18
i removed even the back button!
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:18
now it's more useful!
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is authui with tha
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with tha
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:18
tha
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what
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background screen wallpaper
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reality
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:18
maybe
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most likely
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what the fuck did i just say
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no
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Vruh 2
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Ex7for8?
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what is background screen wallpaper
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is authui with wallpaper becoming a reality
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E2
Ex7for8?
it's sib
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i'm on 8.1
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Vruh 2
is authui with wallpaper becoming a reality
ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:18
maybe
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Oh yeah, just wanted to ask you that (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:19
modding authui is possible
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obv uifiles so you are allergic to it @Vruh 2
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logonui on xp is
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100% uifiles
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What is the used language? XAML?
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some shit similar to css
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:20
WHO NEEDS AN ACCOUNT ANYWAY
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duixml
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so probably xaml
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Vruh 2
some shit similar to css
So, custom?
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:20
if my calculations are correct
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did they encrypt this shit
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:20
yes
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use ui2asfhjuasfouasfhuasfuo
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i'm gonna give microsoft a smack across the fucking face
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:21
check pins
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for the decryptor
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microsoft's getting chin checked
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Is SIB included in the pack?
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:21
yep
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not cracked obv
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sib+ doesn't need a crack anyway
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it's a broken mess
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Ah, sure
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da (edited)
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I almost downloaded the 6 gb iso, and firefox fucking failed
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gdrive?
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I don't have enough nerves to cope with this internet speed and this mofo
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Yeah, gdrive
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i feel you
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shit's terrible to download from
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use IDM
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with automatic download integration
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it can download shit from gdrive and doesn't fail
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:42
what did 10 use to store the background
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i have the same shit
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:42
for the login screen
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I guess back to IDM, just like old days
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hmmm tihiy
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also which build are you downloading
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or iso
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8.1 2021, which SwordKing linked
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Hmm disgusting black mode, what a new feature
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:44
they aren't wrong y'know
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the 10 dark mode was dogshit (edited)
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and still dogshit
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honestly. they should've called it zebra mode
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Holy shit, actually, good thing it failed
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I was downloading an entirely different ISO 😂
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:45
you were downloading 8.0 trol
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That's right
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the wrong os 👍
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 18:47
the more based os*
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fuck you windows 10
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you're useless
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and always will be
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fuck you
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Vruh 2
it can download shit from gdrive and doesn't fail
barisberat 16/05/2022 18:55
meanwhile when you download large files off gdrive and get the message "x is too large for google to scan viruses" clicking on download screen appends "&confirm=t" on the link
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 19:41
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hehe. smol
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 20:30
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Deleted User 16/05/2022 20:31
why is this toxic green
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 20:32
because i choosen this green
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and i haven't activated it
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 20:48
God authui is stupid
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I now see why nobody wants to handle a piece of shit
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Like
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The color is really handled by something else
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fuckauthuiallmyhomieshateauthui
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ImSwordQueen 16/05/2022 21:25
There would need a miracle to find a way to implement it
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Maybe Microsoft never removed the apis for the wallpaper as the lock screen wallpaper? Who knows
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You want a letter of commendation for Fournier University to pursue your major in kernel extending? @win32
There is no such institution.
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Anyone who believes that there is would probably never make the cut at Everest, ITT or Trump.
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ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 08:42
backported the modded charms bar to 8.0
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so i don't have the windows 8 logo visible in explorer :)
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ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 09:02
fancy.
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ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 10:04
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ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 10:33
ah yes. it's open in
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ah yes, the usual file not locked properly
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7-zip does it properly if anything
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i hate u1
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Deleted User 17/05/2022 11:03
lol
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messed up
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basically modernmix on u1
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well the cracked copy that is
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Deleted User 17/05/2022 11:18
1.12?
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yes, 1.12
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ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 12:34
get real @Scamdisk
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Deleted User 17/05/2022 12:35
hot
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nice
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change ie icon
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jk
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that breaks sysprep, and assuming, activation
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how do i know this? i tried doing that on 7mix
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ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 12:38
i mean
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IE10 was already out in 2012
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Deleted User 17/05/2022 12:39
replace ie 11 with 10 instead
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or 9
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idk
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ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 12:39
9 impossible
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that's 8.0 so 10 is already preinstalled
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Deleted User 17/05/2022 12:39
everything is possible
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but at what cost?
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ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 12:39
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Deleted User
but at what cost?
ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 12:40
some metro apps
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ImSwordQueen
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Deleted User 17/05/2022 12:40
this a VM right?
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ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 12:40
yeah
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i can't sideload apps on my main
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and wscrack is death on 8.1
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Deleted User 17/05/2022 12:40
ah
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would've mained this shit
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ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 12:41
i mean
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you can
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it's public
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and doubt dev license would work for too long with 8400 apps
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ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 12:41
blue
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Scamdisk
and doubt dev license would work for too long with 8400 apps
ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 12:41
it would
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you only need the license and the certificate
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wscrack just enables the license
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with unconventional ways
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ImSwordQueen
you can
Deleted User 17/05/2022 12:42
that would mean reformatting and reconfiguring windows and its just not worth it anymore
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no, wscrack force enables LOB and tricks windows into thinking you're on a domain
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ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 12:42
what os do you have? @Deleted User
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Deleted User 17/05/2022 12:42
10 ltsc
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stuck
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ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 12:42
oh
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Deleted User 17/05/2022 12:42
since a while
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i'm promised a new pc by my parents
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for uni
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so like in july
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windowblinds is cringe tbh, but that's the best it can be done on 10
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Deleted User 17/05/2022 12:43
but i expect i will end up with a third gen i5 or somethingkannagun
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ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 12:43
unless y'know
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vruh or aat finds a way to resize the caption buttons on 8.x
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and that way can be ported to 10
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Deleted User
but i expect i will end up with a third gen i5 or somethingkannagun
not bad at all if so, it could run actual vista
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ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 12:44
now you get a haswell i5 tr
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Deleted User 17/05/2022 12:45
lol
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Scamdisk
not bad at all if so, it could run actual vista
Deleted User 17/05/2022 12:46
yeah but that's not really a "new" pc is it
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i mean vista's fun and all but i'm seeking to be able to work without ide's crashing on me
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particularly when i'm seeking a degree that's literally pure computers lol
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I'm getting a shit ton of bru.exe errors with 7tsp (edited)
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And .NET 3.5 popups. I feel like this isn't ending good
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ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 15:50
yeah you need .net 3.5
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the fact ms doesn't enable it by default or include the damn c++ and dx runtimes is still somewhat infuriating
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ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 15:52
just reapply the pack when you installed net 3.5
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Nothing is to break right?
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I don't feel like reinstalling again, already tortured this poor hitachi drive enough
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It seems, 7tsp broke SIB and taskbar tweaker
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ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 16:16
Weird. It shouldn't do that
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Lmao, and now SIB broke explorer. This is quite a clusterfuck
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ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 16:16
It worked for me when i tested it
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this is with the failed net 3.5?
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Yeah, with tons of 0x142 bru.exe errors
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ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 16:17
Thats why i included a warning to install net 3.5 first...
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Welp, reinstall is mandatory
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ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 16:17
It isn't
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Get net 3.5 somehow
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And patch windows via 7tsp again
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I did that, patching worked but these two still don't start
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Okay, after a few crashes SIB suddenly did
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ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 16:18
With net 3.5 installed obv (edited)
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@ImSwordQueen Sorry4ping, but do you have the pack wallpaper separately?
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ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 16:33
which one
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the old one or new one?
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ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 16:33
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Beautiful, thanks
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ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 16:45
bruh. weren't you meant to be released with 8.0?
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why aren't you compatible then
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Deleted User 17/05/2022 16:50
which update is this?
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2012 has update releases
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i think that's the rtm
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ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 16:52
rtm yep
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Deleted User 17/05/2022 16:57
it could've rtm'd before windows 8 idk
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and then the first update made it "compatible" (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 16:58
still showing the error is silly
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ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 17:33
compiling it from source makes it more secure tr
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I am confused. uDWM with left offset patch keeps sending dwm into a crash loop
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ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 17:37
how 🤔
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I patched the dll from the ISO myself, and it happens again
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Why
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ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 17:37
that's weird
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because i'm using the same iso as you
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for 8.1
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and it worked
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Surely there's no way AeroGlass causes this?
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ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 17:38
are you using secure ux theme or ultra ux theme?
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I used the latter
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Weird considering it works for me just fine, but then again, I installed a gen2 iso cuz lazy
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ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 17:39
OK BUT I WANTED TO PLAY THE FULL GMAE
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WHY
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Deleted User 17/05/2022 17:40
which game lol
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ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 17:41
angry birds space
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obv delisted
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on cut the rope it unlocked all levels
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so that's nice
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obv i'm joking. why would it unlock all levels
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bitch pay for a game that isn't even listed anymore
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Deleted User 17/05/2022 17:46
hack it
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ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 17:49
honestly. i would never play them fully so i don't care really
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hm yes. the latest accessories
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the latest gaming console
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the latest ipad
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the latest dslr
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and... actually that didn't change too much
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Deleted User 17/05/2022 17:59
lol
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I guess the centered stuff stays. I will reinstall next month
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Before
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After
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E2
I guess the centered stuff stays. I will reinstall next month
Wincentertitle shows this
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ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 18:46
normal
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you have to patch the left alignment yourself
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I did, yet it dies, damn
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ImSwordQueen 17/05/2022 18:51
try it without the theme?
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After uninstalling aero 1.4.6 crashes don't happen
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@ImSwordQueen Do you possibly have 1.2.5 cracked?
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E2
@ImSwordQueen Do you possibly have 1.2.5 cracked?
i have 1.3.0 cracked if you want that
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That would be very useful
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E2
That would be very useful
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ImSwordQueen 18/05/2022 06:40
Isnt 1.3.0 for 8.0?
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E2
I am confused. uDWM with left offset patch keeps sending dwm into a crash loop
you might've patched it wrong
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ImSwordQueen 18/05/2022 06:49
yeah. it is (edited)
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1.3.1 works on a plethora of 10 builds
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from 9821 maybe to 9883
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no idea about 9888
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9926 def not
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not even with 9909 udwm, that's a big doubt
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uDWM is not the entirety of dwm
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you know
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ofc
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ImSwordQueen 18/05/2022 09:38
man. i only modded explorer's mui and this fucking vm died
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ty 8.0
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ok now it showed explorer
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but all the inputs are disabled
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OK NOW EXPLORER WORKS WITHOUT MUI
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TY WINDOWS FOR NOT USING MUIS RIGHT
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get those steam notifs out my face windows
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ImSwordQueen 18/05/2022 10:02
that's pretty close imo
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both on the bri ish theme
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ImSwordQueen 18/05/2022 10:04
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yahe
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wtf they got da realistic caption buttons???
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ImSwordQueen 18/05/2022 10:05
flush
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(windows 7 does not exist)
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but it does have the basedest of themes
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gaaah damn
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dies of cum
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ImSwordQueen 18/05/2022 10:11
imagine if 8 succeeded (edited)
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and all the cool themes were on 8.x instead
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negative
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because this theme was made in 2011
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just like sonye (tha windows 2010 theme) and the other theme this guy made
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GAAAH MMF DAMN!!!
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YOOO
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WTF IS START MENU WTF???? COMPLETELY RUINED
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i like it
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Looks cool
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he even made tha little
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cutout thing for the icon
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prolly doesnt like it cause it doesnt have enough aero on the start menu
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trol
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dream still #1
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fuck dream
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Vruh 2
but it does have the basedest of themes
bro
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this is dream
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the name of the theme is dream
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going to win7
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skip
fuck dream
ImSwordQueen 18/05/2022 10:31
fuck dream speedrun
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ImSwordQueen 18/05/2022 11:33
time to reinstall 8.0 again because the explorer mui loves to troll me
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and work half the time
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windows 10 only
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not
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windows 8.1 with a windows 7 theme running a windows 10 only version of office
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@ImSwordQueen here's the funny thing
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windows 7 uses the theme atlas setting equivalent of title glow
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that option on 8.1 is trash so we use theme settings
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and cry about it
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ImSwordQueen 18/05/2022 11:57
🤔
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And what about 8.0?
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perfect
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it's perfect on 8.0
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literally by default
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you can't change the glow on 8.0 and it's perfect
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ImSwordQueen 18/05/2022 11:58
If only the legacy file transfer dialog worked on 8.0
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oh
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if only ayymd drivers were fixed
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skip
dies of cum
at least if you want to commit suicide make it feel good (edited)
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Scamdisk
if only ayymd drivers were fixed
especially since amd aint updating 7 drivers no more
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it should be fixable without updates coming in
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ImSwordQueen 18/05/2022 12:59
OF COURSE
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I REINSTALL YOU
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AND YOU WON'T WORK
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ImSwordQueen 18/05/2022 13:19
ok somehow i can't get the mui method to work anymore on 8.0
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oh
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literally it stays the same oh
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THANK YOU WINDOWS FOR NOT EVEN TRYING
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WHY THE HELL IS THIS BS BROKEN
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holy shit
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ok somehow my vm is cursed
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whyyy
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Vruh 2
you might've patched it wrong
No, it was proper
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I just had to use Aero 1.2.5 instead of 1.4.6
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ImSwordQueen 18/05/2022 20:11
Meeeeeetroooooo
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metro
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Deleted User 18/05/2022 20:26
how are you doing that
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ImSwordQueen 18/05/2022 20:26
cook imageres
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tutorial over
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this will corrupt dwm as well
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dies
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ImSwordQueen 19/05/2022 05:29
I got videos to play on the xbox video app so maybe?
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ImSwordQueen 19/05/2022 12:34
god taskmgr even with the damn nointegritycheck on still refuses to work
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doom
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ImSwordQueen 19/05/2022 12:55
Rectify11 on 8.0 tr
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ImSwordQueen 19/05/2022 13:25
fuck you automatic repair
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Deleted User 19/05/2022 14:36
lool
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ImSwordQueen 19/05/2022 16:18
@E2 wait are you really trying to add the caption atlas glow on 9x00?
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Of course, lol
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ImSwordQueen 19/05/2022 16:18
on 8.1 first right?
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Yeah, 8.first
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ImSwordQueen 19/05/2022 16:19
damn
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you are going hard mode lol
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I like how there are actually similarities between 7850 and 8.1's uDWM (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 19/05/2022 16:19
for both stuff too.
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E2
I like how there are actually similarities between 7850 and 8.1's uDWM (edited)
ImSwordQueen 19/05/2022 16:20
huh really?
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Yeah, the createbitmapfromatlas has very similar structures, for one
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ImSwordQueen 19/05/2022 16:21
so if you port it to 8.1
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let's say
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I expected total rework, but I guess an advantage is good (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 19/05/2022 16:22
it would make it easier to port on 8.0 too right?
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For sure there are going to be even more similarities, besides the weird GetLeftOffset moment 🤔
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ImSwordQueen 19/05/2022 16:23
would be based if you somehow get it off
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Maybe not too soon, but I'm determined
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Especially since this transformation pack looks so good
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E2
Maybe not too soon, but I'm determined
ImSwordQueen 19/05/2022 16:24
i'm pretty sure you will manage it to work (edited)
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@E2 i also noted the existence of createbuttonglowsfromatlas
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is it on 8.1's uDWM?
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i suppose not
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i forgor 💀
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i remember seeing it on 7's uDWM
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Did not find any traces of it yet
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tried finding similar structures?
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I know for sure there has to be work done in CTopLevelWindow
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Vruh 2
tried finding similar structures?
Check #beta-windows
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if not you could try actually implementing the function and getting the function calls in
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Related structures are similar, but I'm looking for anything reminiscing atlasglow
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checked pseudo?
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Vruh 2
if not you could try actually implementing the function and getting the function calls in
If it doesn't exist, I guess that's what I have to do
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it could be inlined for all we know
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but i doubt it
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I doubt too
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GetLeftOffset has a reason to exist
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Button glow on the other hand
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Aero wizard uses GLO, ribbon apps do, I think (edited)
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And programs can call it IIRC
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For example, internet download manager does with the progress window
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Maybe some other crap that makes it return 0 too
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actually
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if the left offset is <= 0 it just goes to the left by default
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it returns 0
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ImSwordQueen 19/05/2022 19:00
i wonder what paint.net uses for making the text left aligned
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on the progress window it probably just goes to the left because it's too small
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Vruh 2
on the progress window it probably just goes to the left because it's too small
It is certainly not too small
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oh shit
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What advancements have been made here?
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ImSwordQueen 20/05/2022 16:05
thank you 8.0
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did some apps uninstall?
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ImSwordQueen 20/05/2022 16:06
4 apps straight didn't get installed (edited)
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and it's a new install too
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yep. missing here too
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apparently even reader isn't here
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man. i have to reinstall to get those 4 apps back now (edited)
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why do you torture yourself
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ImSwordQueen 20/05/2022 16:12
says the guy tr
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ImSwordQueen
says the guy tr
fucking stop
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i changed it
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ImSwordQueen 20/05/2022 16:12
that has windows 10
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this is ltsc
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ImSwordQueen 20/05/2022 16:12
you still have windows 10
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ImSwordQueen 20/05/2022 16:12
ltsc bad
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switch to windows 8
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8 nuts in your
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ImSwordQueen 20/05/2022 16:13
skip's mother
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ha
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who's skip
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ImSwordQueen 20/05/2022 16:13
skip deez nutz
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i skipped them
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you accepted them wholeheartedly
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ImSwordQueen 20/05/2022 16:14
no u
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lol!!!!!!!!!!
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ImSwordQueen 20/05/2022 16:15
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@skip
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ImSwordQueen
Click to see attachment 🖼️
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ImSwordQueen 20/05/2022 21:32
Does someone here have an 8 install with my 8.xto7 transformation installed?
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i still do
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the outdated one though
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why
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i did but removed it for some reason i forgor
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ImSwordQueen 21/05/2022 09:47
bruh i'm retarded
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i forgot to include the fixed shine version of the show desktop button
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but i included the non shine version
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i guess i really hate the shine version of the 7 theme trol
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amoled explorer
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@ImSwordQueen i think
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the shiny version of the theme can be even more accurate
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so
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you know the shines and shit
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ImSwordQueen 21/05/2022 15:32
how so
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well
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i snooped around 7's aero for some time now
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and found out they don't run at full opacity not even in active windows
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i'd need to 💀 remake the borders 💀
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but thankfully this time i do have a way to test the fucking theme since i still have my 8.1 install
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ImSwordQueen 21/05/2022 15:33
dies
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@ImSwordQueen Look
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literally almost invisible
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ImSwordQueen 21/05/2022 15:36
you just discovered just now
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barely fucking visible
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ImSwordQueen 21/05/2022 15:37
when something epic is happening
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  • dies *
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what
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this one actually makes me want to die
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ImSwordQueen 21/05/2022 15:37
bruh
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i suppose
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time to make new borders
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again
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also
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what is happening that is epic
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also i wonder
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textglowsize
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glow intensity
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these are THE theme settings
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i wonder if i can
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btw they actually perfectly match win7 but i still wonder
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ImSwordQueen
when something epic is happening
nah it really changes almost nothing
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i think 75% opacity is 255 -> 192 or 191
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ImSwordQueen 21/05/2022 15:52
so no need for updating it?
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idk i'm adding the side shines
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it'll be up to you if it's really worth it
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to me it looks the absolute same under paint.net
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ImSwordQueen 21/05/2022 15:53
like
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installer happening soon
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so having a finished pack before this being finished helps
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then i guess i'll give you the updated theme with slightly weaker shines
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let me finish it
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ImSwordQueen
Click to see attachment 🖼️
#RadMorning 21/05/2022 15:57
are you really making this?
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ImSwordQueen 21/05/2022 15:58
someone is helping me
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#RadMorning 21/05/2022 15:58
I really like that idea
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ImSwordQueen 21/05/2022 15:58
it's really to prevent someone from stealing my fucking pack
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#RadMorning 21/05/2022 15:58
it certainly makes things easier for people that aren't experienced with modding Windows
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okay, that too
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ImSwordQueen 21/05/2022 15:59
making all automatic will make recreating it almost impossible
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did you put on the fixed metrics
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ImSwordQueen 21/05/2022 16:00
yeah
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already did
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instead of the skinny ass border and 22 size buttons
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ImSwordQueen 21/05/2022 16:00
it would be most likely be the one you gave me
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bruh somehow i can't connect to any 8400 app anymore (edited)
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and the patch doesn't work anymore
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whyyy
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@ImSwordQueen keep tha og theme
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it looks dead with the 75% opacity shit on 8.1
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almost flat really
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ImSwordQueen 21/05/2022 16:23
Alr
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ImSwordQueen 22/05/2022 12:26
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I had that error appear often on Windows 7
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ImSwordQueen 22/05/2022 12:31
i'm cooking authui to show a background
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if only i had the ported 7's authui on hand to check if porting 8.0's stuff from that would do something else
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but the person that has it
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straight doesn't want to give any info about it
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or how they fixed it
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so i'm here
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guessing
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when the guessing work was already done
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ImSwordQueen 22/05/2022 15:51
microsoft still hosts the winstoreUI.dll debug symbols huh
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ImSwordQueen 22/05/2022 16:24
ok i found out that the background is drawn by the dll itself and not by uifiles
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so this is very out of my reach sadly.
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@E2 you should take a look at authui
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I have to revisit some ASM stuff first, and finish my exams (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 22/05/2022 17:19
👍
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ImSwordQueen
making all automatic will make recreating it almost impossible
until some 13 year old pulls up a string view in ida that shows all the paths
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troll
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Michael
until some 13 year old pulls up a string view in ida that shows all the paths
ImSwordQueen 23/05/2022 10:25
If they go that way to steal it then they are wasting their time
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ImSwordQueen
If they go that way to steal it then they are wasting their time
I want to maked Windows 7.1 theme for my Windows 11 Home so I will used Ida Pro to steal the pictures from this theme...
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ImSwordQueen 23/05/2022 10:25
What
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drunk or stroke?
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or just... really fast typing
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ImSwordQueen
drunk or stroke?
joke
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ImSwordQueen 23/05/2022 10:32
oh
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i had to guess that.
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Michael
until some 13 year old pulls up a string view in ida that shows all the paths
it's possible that the strings may not be in the code/data sections, but in the string table of rsrc section which ida will not detect.
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you would use a loadresource/loadstring type function to get those strings
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but then it would be possible for someone using a resource editor to look it up, unless you put it in system32 so resource hacker can't find it
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ImSwordQueen 23/05/2022 13:29
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betawiki cooking team be like
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sometimes i wonder what sorcery is that
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ImSwordQueen 23/05/2022 13:32
yeah. you tried getting starter for months but here we got it in less than a windows install time (edited)
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you mean corearm
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because that's what i tried to get that one time
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ImSwordQueen 23/05/2022 13:36
didn't you tried starter too?
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no?
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ImSwordQueen 23/05/2022 13:37
oh.
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oh
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@ImSwordQueen Do you have 8102 x64 ATM?
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ImSwordQueen 23/05/2022 18:47
yeah i do
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what do you need from it
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Mind sending me The dll? (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 23/05/2022 18:48
udwm?
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Haha, you get it
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It's the first build with symbols that has no glow
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ImSwordQueen 23/05/2022 18:48
711.5 KB
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Can you post aero.msstyles too?
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Okay, postponing this for June. The atlas stuff gets interesting
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The glow functionality still seems to be present in 8102's uDWM
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I'll have to see by adding some textures to the atlas resource
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ImSwordQueen 23/05/2022 19:04
🤔
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ImSwordQueen 23/05/2022 19:18
looks cool
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ImSwordQueen 23/05/2022 19:44
time to reinstall 8.1
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for funnies
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i hope this iso doesn't require a key
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and it does
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damn it
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ImSwordQueen 23/05/2022 20:16
waiting...
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@Vruh 2 look at this clean UI
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Sticker
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stupid STUPID UI
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INSTALL PACK!!!!!!
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ImSwordQueen 23/05/2022 20:21
first let me install vmware tools
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so i can get the funny going
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it will take me less than 2 hours? to transform it
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even 1 hour if this vm isn't going to be slow af
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but the
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installwer
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wtfff
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ImSwordQueen 23/05/2022 20:23
what installer
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i'm going to do this manually
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the Pack Installer
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WTF!!!!!!!
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ImSwordQueen 23/05/2022 20:23
with a gaming chair
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nah i will just use my gaming chair trol
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this is what it looks now
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that's not how it's going to look like soon
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ImSwordQueen 23/05/2022 20:24
gaming chair gaming
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good game gaming
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(starcraft 2 pro team)
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Vruh 2
that's not how it's going to look like soon
That's how
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incorrect
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i can sense that is 8.0
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that's the wrong number
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ImSwordQueen 23/05/2022 20:25
that looks like 8.1
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it's 8.1
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ImSwordQueen 23/05/2022 20:26
taskbar is too 8.1-ish
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my life be like
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Vruh 2
that's the wrong number
Ooh ooooooooooh
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ImSwordQueen 23/05/2022 20:26
welp time to go sleep while i'm transforming my 8.1 vm into 7 with the power of sleep gaming
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trol
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wtf !!!!
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ImSwordQueen 23/05/2022 20:26
jk. i have to check if something fails
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failure of sleep gaming
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I've spent a solid hour skinning 8.1 alive :D
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ImSwordQueen 23/05/2022 20:27
doom
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E2
I've spent a solid hour skinning 8.1 alive :D
ImSwordQueen 23/05/2022 20:27
it will take less than that for me trol
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Worth it, I can't look at windows 10 anymore
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8056 da first build since a long tike to actually boot on modern hardware
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ImSwordQueen 23/05/2022 20:27
no spoilers about the secret powers of gaming chairs
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E2
Worth it, I can't look at windows 10 anymore
i can look at it all day
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With windowBlinds, yes
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as gifid ndont check the disk bet abuild
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E2
With windowBlinds, yes
Or if it's Threshold 10 troll
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stretch ass
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it said GO!
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in all caps like that
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hello @ImSwordQueen
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ImSwordQueen 23/05/2022 20:34
wtf 8056!!!!!
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wtf!!!
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where can i acquire redlock for this build
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Where
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gooot it
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theme out here looking kinda foolish
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ImSwordQueen 23/05/2022 20:39
man. transforming windows 8.1 while gaming is sure fun
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nah but fr tho
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the captions look kinda strange on this build
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ImSwordQueen 23/05/2022 20:50
yeah they do
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dwm still dies
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ImSwordQueen 23/05/2022 20:52
try 8888 trol
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ImSwordQueen 23/05/2022 21:10
@Vruh 2
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it took 1 hour
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i was right trol
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i have such a good gaming chair
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life
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ImSwordQueen 23/05/2022 21:36
the desktop behind the slaugher lol
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WTF STORE ICON!!!
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ImSwordQueen 23/05/2022 21:37
lean metro
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wtf SMALLER STORE ICON!!
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ImSwordQueen 23/05/2022 21:38
uhm
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dwm skill issue
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ImSwordQueen 23/05/2022 21:47
screw you. dwmless metro
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what tf!!!
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also that hover image
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ong
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kinda got me wanting to do a square frame on ps (edited)
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DonE!!!!
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time for funnies
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ImSwordQueen 24/05/2022 11:11
kills new accounts metro now trol (the already compiled version) (edited)
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even the ms confidential one kills new accounts
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ImSwordQueen 24/05/2022 12:12
waiting for here to load...
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ImSwordQueen 24/05/2022 16:17
finished patching it. took only 4-5 hours (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 24/05/2022 16:24
fuck you.
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ImSwordQueen
finished patching it. took only 4-5 hours (edited)
Why so long
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E2
Why so long
ImSwordQueen 24/05/2022 16:28
Caching "fuctions" ok
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for 5 hours
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ImSwordQueen
fuck you.
Also, same. My patch also didn't work for some reason
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ImSwordQueen
Caching "fuctions" ok
Shouldn't take that long. My ancient AMD does it in 10 minutes
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ImSwordQueen 24/05/2022 16:29
IT'S THE SAME TOO
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WHY DON'T YOU WORK
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fuck this
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i'm done
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ImSwordQueen
Caching "fuctions" ok
it REALLY shouldn't take that long
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are you doing this on some shitty ASS 2 core processor or some shit
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ImSwordQueen 24/05/2022 16:37
idfk what happened
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it took 4 hours
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then again shell32 probably has a bajillion functions compared to uDWM
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uDWM takes about 30 seconds to cache everything for me
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ImSwordQueen 24/05/2022 16:37
udwm doesn't take long for me too
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Vruh 2
then again shell32 probably has a bajillion functions compared to uDWM
It should never take more than 20 minutes anyway
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yeah
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How big is the file?
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ImSwordQueen 24/05/2022 16:38
which one
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the dll is 21mb
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the i64 is 172mb (edited)
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Scamdisk
Click to see attachment 🖼️
ImSwordQueen 24/05/2022 16:39
get real
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ImSwordQueen
the dll is 21mb
Okay, that should not be hours worth disassembling
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Scamdisk
Click to see attachment 🖼️
How the hell do you guys do this?
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Is it some SKU alchemy science?
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ImSwordQueen 24/05/2022 16:40
imagine if ultimate was still there
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trol
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8250
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trol
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ImSwordQueen 24/05/2022 16:40
8400 has starter trol (edited)
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would had done it with update 1, but no coreconnected, it's variations and professionalstudent
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ImSwordQueen 24/05/2022 16:41
wait. these skus are from microsoft. so does that mean they are legal builds?
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it's some shit related to OS repair or some shit
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ImSwordQueen 24/05/2022 16:43
is ThinPC included for 9200 right?
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yes, just can't get it to work
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ImSwordQueen 24/05/2022 16:43
whyyy
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also shit somehow activated itself
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ImSwordQueen 24/05/2022 16:43
LOL WHAT
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you have a legal copy of 8.1 starter
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yeah it literally did
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ImSwordQueen 24/05/2022 16:44
trol
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check with slmgr
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what key is installed
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the default starter key
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straight out of product.ini
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ImSwordQueen 24/05/2022 16:45
imagine if they never locked it from activating (edited)
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also shit somehow activated itself
i mean when i installed visual studio 2012 ultimate from MS it came activated trol
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never bought a licence for that lol
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ImSwordQueen 24/05/2022 16:47
oh wait you need to activate it?
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yeah ultimate is paid
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ImSwordQueen 24/05/2022 16:47
ty microsoft trol
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express is free but still needs activation for some reason lol
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also vl license.rtf for some reason
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ImSwordQueen 24/05/2022 16:48
transform it into 7 trol
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my question is will that transfer into a free windows 10 home licence trol
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i do have a boxed copy of 10 home for some reason lol
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this starter do be so complete it activated itself
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ImSwordQueen 24/05/2022 16:50
still thinking they never locked it
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so that's why it activated
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and probably it activated a starter sku for the first time since 2014
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yeah i wonder
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still free windows trol
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ImSwordQueen 24/05/2022 16:52
i wonder
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if the product.ini keys worked for activating (edited)
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WinDVD
still free windows trol
Windows Insider moment
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ImSwordQueen 24/05/2022 16:52
imagine not having all pro skus licenses on 1 laptop
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signing up for that with a ms account literally gives you free Windows
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ImSwordQueen 24/05/2022 16:53
ty hwid activations trol
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Scamdisk
signing up for that with a ms account literally gives you free Windows
but maining the leaning tower of windows 11 but now its beta 💀
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ImSwordQueen
ty hwid activations trol
fr best way
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you don't have to use the insider builds to get free windows right from MS
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windows 8 only gets KMS activation Rip
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8.1 Starter:
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ImSwordQueen 24/05/2022 16:54
and mak trol
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how does one even get 8.1 starter
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here's the thing: you don't
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ImSwordQueen 24/05/2022 16:54
can you upload an iso of it? tr
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jk i have it
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i must know
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SKU alchemy
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ImSwordQueen 24/05/2022 16:55
betawiki SKU cooking alchemy
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i would love to test scuffed 8.1
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ImSwordQueen
betawiki SKU cooking alchemy
better than MDL
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where do you get the ISO though that is the question
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ImSwordQueen 24/05/2022 16:55
release 8.1 starter to web archive and see how many people will say it's fake trol
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i got the files and i've done a MDL-style arson on it
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aka reconstructing the whole thing
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so it did exist previously?
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MS "internal"
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oh hmm
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because the files were on WU all along
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sounds like a pain ngl
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oh yeah and i have files for 8.1 startern and serverweb as well
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ImSwordQueen 24/05/2022 16:57
how do you even do these types of cooking
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you don't /s
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ImSwordQueen 24/05/2022 16:58
ralseigun
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Scamdisk
you don't /s
How do you do if you don't?
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Brain shatter
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Genuine question, is starter the SKU all other SKU's are built off?
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well it is the base sku, yes
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So it still exists in one way or another, to this day? (edited)
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yes, it exists in 11 internally, yes
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the newest thing we can get starter for tho is 16199
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ImSwordQueen 24/05/2022 17:01
waiting for 11 starter to leak
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Scamdisk
yes, it exists in 11 internally, yes
Nice
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As they say, gotta "start" off somewhere
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branding wasnt updated tho
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so it's still calling itself 10 Starter (edited)
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Yeah, obviously
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ImSwordQueen 24/05/2022 17:07
did they update PPIPRO though?
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yes, they did in nickel
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branding string only tho
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they just dont know if to kill it or not
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ImSwordQueen 24/05/2022 17:26
it took less time now. time do see if i failed again or i succeeded at it.
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what's the best way to install .net 4.8 on windows 8.0?
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ImSwordQueen 24/05/2022 18:20
@Scamdisk
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instead extract it
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download the offline .net 4.8 installer and extract that too
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run regedit as trustedinstaller and delete the keys mentioned in the reg files
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run the full x64 msi
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from the offline installer
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ImSwordQueen 24/05/2022 18:23
would it be possible to do all of this in setup mode?
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then import the regs
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then run the DotNet48Stuff.exe thing and point it to C:\Windows\
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obviously still as Trustedinstaller
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replace all if asked
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had to replace a few files with cmd
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but I think I did everything right
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ImSwordQueen 24/05/2022 19:00
cool
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epic
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.net 4.8 works
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but can’t install rollups for it
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got it
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I just need to use dism for .net 4.8 rollups
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Various leaked photos of next version of Windows operating system, commonly known as Windows 8, shows that Windows Taskbar has new feature in the form of user picture tile. User tile of Windows 8 is displaying a picture or avatar of the currently logged in user in the notification area of Windows Taskbar. The user tile allows quick access by jus...
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Does someone still have this?
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get real
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also yeah, starter activating itself seems to be a 8.1 quirk
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ImSwordQueen 25/05/2022 12:14
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ImSwordQueen
Click to see attachment 🖼️
ImSwordQueen 25/05/2022 12:16
this looks gore
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ImSwordQueen
this looks gore
ImSwordQueen 25/05/2022 12:22
and apparently it's too gore that wsb crashes when i try to test it
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ImSwordQueen 25/05/2022 12:34
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ImSwordQueen 25/05/2022 14:21
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ImSwordQueen 25/05/2022 15:39
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8.0 startern clearly holds the record for the smallest amount of target skus in a starter
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ImSwordQueen 25/05/2022 15:44
Isn't it the same as 7?
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Oh wait nvm
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All home skus and ultimate exist too
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that's 7, on 8.0 it's literally just 4 other N skus
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aside from StarterN
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ImSwordQueen 25/05/2022 15:46
Yeah
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I forgor
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gonna do this anyway, even tho it's the most uninteresing one
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ImSwordQueen 25/05/2022 15:47
Wait
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maybe who knows, 9200 AIO
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ImSwordQueen 25/05/2022 15:47
Were you integrating thinPC on client 8?
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i tried on both client 8 and embedded 8
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both didn't work
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ImSwordQueen 25/05/2022 15:47
Oh....oh
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Try server 2012 trol
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doubt Server to Embedded conversion is gonna work either
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ImSwordQueen 25/05/2022 15:48
Yeah
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anyway lemme guess, you want 9200 AIO
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ImSwordQueen 25/05/2022 15:49
Honestly. having a 9200 starter iso would be cool already
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what about isos of all 3 base skus
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ImSwordQueen 25/05/2022 15:51
Starter core and coreARM? 🤔
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Starter, StarterN and ServerWeb
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ImSwordQueen 25/05/2022 15:51
Would make sense if they all have the packages for the other skus
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So you only need those 3 skus to upgrade to the sku you want
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all sku packages are in the repair thing (edited)
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just can't do embedded shit due to that been a hot mess
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ImSwordQueen 25/05/2022 15:53
Imagine an iso only with starter
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and there's no base sku for those
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ImSwordQueen 25/05/2022 15:53
But for every build that has starter
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that would be bootleg level stuff
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ImSwordQueen 25/05/2022 15:54
Windows starter AIO trol
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All betas in 1 trol
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And all starter trol
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iso would be bigger than actual 11 isos are
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ImSwordQueen 25/05/2022 15:54
Yeah obv
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48gb in esd form maybe?
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with this shit i gotta uninstall and reinstall the damn LP because haha weird happening if you don't
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ImSwordQueen 25/05/2022 15:57
Unironically
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If you release the 9200 starter iso
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I would try and make it into 7 starter
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there's gonna be issues with releasing the 9600 one, considering ya know
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the fact it literally activates itself
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ImSwordQueen 25/05/2022 15:58
Free activation trol
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what about making RT x64 into 7 /s
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absolutely illegal image
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try making that 7 branding but with 8 skus for all of them as a joke /s
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ImSwordQueen 25/05/2022 16:02
doom
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ImSwordQueen 25/05/2022 16:31
basicn't
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startern
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@ImSwordQueen sorry for ping, but here it is, chief (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 25/05/2022 17:26
ralseigun time to delete the curses
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no
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this is what you wanted, right
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ImSwordQueen 25/05/2022 17:26
yes
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serverweb coming later™️
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thanks to the usual MS incompetence, it was possible after all
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ImSwordQueen 25/05/2022 17:29
can you upgrade to any sku with these versions of starter right?
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yes
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ImSwordQueen 25/05/2022 17:29
makes making 2022-05 easy trol
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any that are defined within their sections in editionmatrix.xml
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makes redoing 2021-02 with Enterprise and CoreSingleLanguage easy too (edited)
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and N editions as well
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A stupid idea popped up in my mind. I want to make a cursed mod of Win 8
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With starter SKU, left title bars, 8056 theme, title bar glow bug etc
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If you want it real cursed, use RT instead
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Yeah that's better lol
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Hmm, what more to think of
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Text size at 9 perhaps
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Oh yeah and ex7forw8 and usertile
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Also using the older flag everywhere
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Can't wait until end of exams
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Ribbon from 7 beta would be very cursed, unfortunately that part I haven't figured out
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+confidential watermark, NET 4.8
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Seemingly for the watermark I can just borrow shell32 from 8441
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ImSwordQueen 25/05/2022 17:47
or check pinned messages
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And maybe figure out this button glow stuff
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ImSwordQueen
or check pinned messages
Ah, that's handy
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ImSwordQueen 25/05/2022 17:50
with the new 2021-02 iso it doesn't work strangely
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Maybe change 6.2 to 6.1 (edited)
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Too much usability and security to sacrifice though
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6.3 however
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I'm afraid that might break drivers and stuff, but I'll try for fun
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I need to make a patched CI pack anyway
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That would be real great
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Making modding Explorer's icon without it shitting itself possible
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ImSwordQueen 25/05/2022 19:41
or without using muis
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that will break when you change language
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i lost the wallpaper 😢
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if only i could set it back up... oh wait i cannot
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ImSwordQueen 25/05/2022 19:55
i lost the wallpaper and i can't get it back
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ty windows
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is it unlicensed or licensed? trol
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With starter SKU, left title bars, 8056 theme, title bar glow bug etc
8056 theme kinda ugly
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just kinda
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but i guess it adds up to the cursed part
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isnt 8056 just windows 7 but not
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ImSwordQueen 25/05/2022 20:43
no
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it's 8102 that didn't believe hard enough
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isnt 8056 just windows 7 but not
windows 8 stops being windows 7 but not quite early on
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8102 has le ugly start button
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you'll get lynched for that but honestly i kinda agree
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it looks kinda fugly
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un-redpilled
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do you know what redlock is
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no idea
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it unlocks metro
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on early builds
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oh it exists in early builds?
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i didnt even know that lol
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yeah
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give it a try
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don't you have like
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8002
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yeah
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ill try it real quick
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metro windows 7 is cursed trol
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told you
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now look at the theme
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it should be different
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8102 has le ugly start button
ImSwordQueen 25/05/2022 20:52
it isn't bad though...
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it acts as mini charms bar
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and big charms bar because i can't get the big charms bar to appear
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its the exact same
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win shift c?
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WinDVD
its the exact same
mate
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open up a window
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wtf
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i thought you meant the start bar i didnt even open a window trol
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also slightly edited painter 8056 theme 👍 👍
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yeah its different
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that's the early DP theme
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it isn't bad though...
eh i prefer RTM 8 for sure, or just good ol win 7 button trol
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i actually do like how these betas look
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@E2 you can see the titlebar bug better here
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i mean the slight differences in unredpilled version
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home basic with aero trol
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did home basic have aero?
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it's a bug
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too much trolling
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eh i prefer RTM 8 for sure, or just good ol win 7 button trol
ImSwordQueen 25/05/2022 21:10
That has no button
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yeah i know
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i meant i prefer the no button
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well i mean technically there is a button its just invisible and very small trol
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Vruh 2
@E2 you can see the titlebar bug better here
It looks cool on non-extended aero titlebars, tbh
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yeah
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ServerWeb Core
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now prepare for the worst
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multipoint standard core (edited)
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and the 9200 base sku set is complete
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this ISO includes both ServerCore and ServerGUI options
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yup, these defo can be updated
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IE tile ded
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ImSwordQueen 26/05/2022 09:54
don't you love 8.1 already having problems even before installing? (edited)
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ah yes, my favorite driver
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ImSwordQueen 26/05/2022 09:55
task manager
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welp nvm was gonna make a trademark joke
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ImSwordQueen 26/05/2022 09:56
if we uninstall the trademark driver then copyright wouldn't exist trol
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time to see if the claim of that EFI loader that it can activate 9200 ServerWeb holds any water
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Click to see attachment 🖼️
Deleted User 26/05/2022 12:16
is this official?
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no, but yes
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ImSwordQueen 26/05/2022 12:35
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while i can't release starter, i will release this
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ImSwordQueen 26/05/2022 12:37
libraries
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And no, just because it's RT doesnt mean funny start menu
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ImSwordQueen 26/05/2022 12:56
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Sorry it's architecture specific
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Meaning Starter on ARM can have the funny start menu
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U1 on funnie
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ImSwordQueen 26/05/2022 17:59
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it was a spp thing @Scamdisk
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Guessing a Win7 leftover
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ImSwordQueen 26/05/2022 18:00
yep
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That other skus don't have
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ImSwordQueen 26/05/2022 18:01
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this thing
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now i can set every wallpaper
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an eye for an eye i guess
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ImSwordQueen 26/05/2022 18:23
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ImSwordQueen 26/05/2022 18:30
and obviously it can't install net 3.5
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fuck me
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Not even with DISM? (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 26/05/2022 18:31
i can't use dism because i was trying to patch with 7tsp (edited)
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but it downloaded it now
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so it doesn't matter in the end
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Deleted User 26/05/2022 18:53
Windows 8
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Starter
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ImSwordQueen 26/05/2022 19:01
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ofc corearm wouldn't support enabling .net 3.5 (edited)
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pouring the icons in manually it is then
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0/10 not actual ARM32 Windows RT
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can't get aero glass on that soo (edited)
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been working on something 👀
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ImSwordQueen 27/05/2022 18:19
wtf windows r8mix 2?!?!?!?!?!?!
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unironically that looks good still (edited)
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yea I really like this
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r8mix starter when /s
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I initially thought it would be funny and cursed but I actually like how this looks after looking at my progress
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ImSwordQueen 27/05/2022 18:22
that was my reaction too. fluent with aero on 8.0 looks a match somehow
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once I'm finished, I'll release a pack with the modded files
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might make this for 8.1 too if I feel like it
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ImSwordQueen 27/05/2022 18:24
wtf based and redpilled?
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ImSwordQueen 27/05/2022 18:25
are folder previews fucked or did you somehow fixed them?
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or disabled
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they look tore up trol
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ImSwordQueen 27/05/2022 18:26
man. on 11 with 10 resources the previous look fine
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but i don't know what dll generates them
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whyyy
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ye I want to figure out what renders those previews
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and hopefully make it fit those folder resources
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ImSwordQueen 27/05/2022 18:28
you can make them generate like what windows 11 22h2 does trol
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what does 22h2 do?
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ImSwordQueen 27/05/2022 18:31
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they are better than the cobalt ones still. there you don't even get a preview
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that looks really nice
18:35
there is a weird issue I have on this 8.0 install tho
18:35
somehow I broke ctrl shift esc launching task manager
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ImSwordQueen 27/05/2022 18:35
explorer reverting to the old icon? (edited)
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I actually have no issues with the explorer icon
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somehow I broke ctrl shift esc launching task manager
ImSwordQueen 27/05/2022 18:35
lol how
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bruh idk
18:36
I put the new explorer icon in the mui
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ImSwordQueen 27/05/2022 18:36
with scamdisk's iso probably there is an explorer mui cached somewhere
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that idk (edited)
18:36
because the fucker won't change no matter what
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I used a msdn iso
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ImSwordQueen 27/05/2022 18:37
yeah embedded. i see
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ImSwordQueen
with scamdisk's iso probably there is an explorer mui cached somewhere
ImSwordQueen 27/05/2022 18:37
but then on my laptop it changed fine doom
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joking even here it happens
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what's wrong with you stupid idot
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i wonder if that's an upgrade sku thing
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I have a different idea for the explorer previews
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I could rotate the folder icons trol
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ImSwordQueen 27/05/2022 19:24
trol
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also i hate the fact you used the 11 logo too. so you broke microsoft's rules about the windows logo
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#RadMorning 27/05/2022 19:25
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ImSwordQueen 27/05/2022 19:26
it doesn't say 8.0 though
19:26
so it might be safe trol
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Guidelines so strict that they wouldnt even use older logos in bootux
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So have a Window with the OS number instead
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#RadMorning 27/05/2022 19:29
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Office 2012... hm
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ImSwordQueen 27/05/2022 19:30
@Ximonite here ya go
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ImSwordQueen
it doesn't say 8.0 though
It doesn't say Vista or ME either
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nor does it say 2000
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ImSwordQueen 27/05/2022 20:35
trol
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barisberat 27/05/2022 20:58
just 8.1 and 10
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me when arson gets updates
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ImSwordQueen 28/05/2022 08:42
wtf arson
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@ImSwordQueen Sorry to ping, would it be possible for you to post that theme? https://discord.com/channels/305415513503432705/880811907932626975/980188900259688459
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I would modify, but I don't how to, yet
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ImSwordQueen 29/05/2022 13:53
sure let me turn the vm on
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if it's not dead because of the missing shell32 mui
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i only ported some stuff from 8064's theme port by painter
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on AeroConP
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Painter made themes too?
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ImSwordQueen 29/05/2022 13:56
yeah
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he fucking ported all 8.x themes to 7
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or probably almost all of them (edited)
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By the way, how'd you get that start button?
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I would modify, but I don't how to, yet
i'm p shit with wsb but what necessarily do you want to modify
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I meant modifying the 8 theme to look like this, like SwordKIng told to that guy on betawiki
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well
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you have the msstyles for it
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so i suppose there is no need for it?
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I do now, yeah
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i wish there was a working way to port 7 themes to 8.1 semi-automated
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because the method pinky sent me really doesn't work
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Is the format similar enough for that? Don't know much about themes
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not really
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ImSwordQueen 29/05/2022 23:30
I realized that
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8.1's taskbar is more transparent than 8.0's
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ImSwordQueen 30/05/2022 11:51
contains both the 8.0 and 8.1 versions of the modded charms bar that look like DP's
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ImSwordQueen 30/05/2022 12:07
153.55 KB
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time to experiment with the vm software that doesnt allow no time sync
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ah yes, sponsored by shitdock
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ah yes, automatic tools install
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arson
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nice fake wu dialog (edited)
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ah yes, the slightly better vmware unity mode
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windows on mac Flushball
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mfw thing downright adds Windows tray to MacOS
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scuffed but great
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that's why i said it's slightly better unity mode
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Mac OS X Starter
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mavericks starter (edited)
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about to commit becomus RTus (edited)
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start screen on MacOS 😳
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not very stable, eh?
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contains both the 8.0 and 8.1 versions of the modded charms bar that look like DP's
Have a screenshot?
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ImSwordQueen 30/05/2022 14:17
(edited)
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ImSwordQueen 30/05/2022 21:39
what
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lies
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ImSwordQueen 30/05/2022 22:40
👀 👀
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Soonish?
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Scamdisk
start screen on MacOS 😳
#RadMorning 31/05/2022 05:09
I love the look of this
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ImSwordQueen 31/05/2022 10:56
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👨🍳
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time for 22621 adk i guess
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inb4 22621 dism still runs on Vista
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ImSwordQueen 31/05/2022 11:39
11:39
now if only
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ImSwordQueen 31/05/2022 11:40
soon™️
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installed competent enough ayymd drivers i guess (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 31/05/2022 11:41
ayymd drivers on 8.0 wtffff
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still waiting for a fix to the last 7 driver (edited)
11:42
tip to avoid wallpaper bug: either disable animations or avoid slideshows
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ImSwordQueen 31/05/2022 11:42
It will still happen
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i would release 2022-05 8.0, but meh, i think it might be better to wait till june's patch tuesday to release 2022-06 8.0 instead
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ImSwordQueen 31/05/2022 11:43
Not a lot though
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also here's another workaround to starter wallpaper "bug": wallpaper engine (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 31/05/2022 11:43
Or cook spp
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former doesn't need spp cooking
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but then again
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ImSwordQueen 31/05/2022 11:44
i mean. Can you activate starter at all
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what's the point when you can't even activate
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ImSwordQueen 31/05/2022 11:44
Exactly
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it isn't 8.1 where for some reason it activates
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Guessing activation servers still accepting 8.1 online activation requests (edited)
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As it's still supported after all
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Scamdisk
also here's another workaround to starter wallpaper "bug": wallpaper engine (edited)
Does authui get updated in the affected updates?
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Scamdisk
Guessing activation servers still accepting 8.1 online activation requests (edited)
ImSwordQueen 31/05/2022 11:46
even on 8.0 it does that
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It seems, authui is responsible for drawing the wallpaper
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ImSwordQueen 31/05/2022 11:47
wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Then guess they did an oopsie and forgor to blacklist 8.1 starter default key
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It seems, authui is responsible for drawing the wallpaper
ImSwordQueen 31/05/2022 11:51
or do as genshingamer1234 said: upgrade to 10 LTSC
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If you want to, I just wondered
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ImSwordQueen 31/05/2022 11:52
i was joking
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we haven't tested authui if that does something though
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so that might be useful to test
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I saw wallpaper sizing functions in authui (edited)
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Fit, stretch, etc
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I wonder if authui is also responsible for the damn animation
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It probably is
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ImSwordQueen 31/05/2022 11:53
anyway
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lemme download the starter iso and test it on my fresh install of the 2021-02 iso with additional updates
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ImSwordQueen
anyway
ImSwordQueen 31/05/2022 11:54
shit will look lit 🔥
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That's the installer thing? Looks cool
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had to pin those isos (edited)
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gonna see if replacing authui with the 9200.16384 version will do something
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then try the 2021-02 version
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actually might be better to try the 2021-02 version first
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That's the installer thing? Looks cool
ImSwordQueen 31/05/2022 11:57
yep
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yup, authui does get updated
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2021-02 on the left, 2022-05 on the right
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lemme go into winre and do a quick file replacement
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Obivously backing up the 2022-05 one incase something goes wrong
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Nope, it's not authui
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As it's still happening
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It's not the wallpaper itself that's broken, but that damn animation
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ImSwordQueen 31/05/2022 12:04
this is weird af
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Whatever's animating the drawing, is getting messed with (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 31/05/2022 12:05
8.x moment (edited)
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Also suggest taking a look at these
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ImSwordQueen
8.x moment (edited)
ImSwordQueen 31/05/2022 12:05
and it restarted
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The latter If replaced, results in a cooked desktop
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Also don't think it's twinapi
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IDA asks for those for some reason
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ImSwordQueen 31/05/2022 12:06
windows.UI.immersive is for the color of the background for sure (edited)
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twinapi probably too
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Wouldn't hurt to try
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ImSwordQueen 31/05/2022 12:07
true
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Windows.UI.Immersive might require a lot more to be replaced for it to work properly
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ImSwordQueen 31/05/2022 12:08
probably most likely the uifiles
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Windows.UI.Immersive is related to the metro apps, right?
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there's more than that related to them, but yes
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Obviously
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ImSwordQueen
8.x moment (edited)
ImSwordQueen 31/05/2022 12:10
and i thought everything was going great
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i was wrong
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fuck me
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😐
xenophobia, the solution to everything according to these people
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ImSwordQueen 31/05/2022 12:10
why china doe
12:11
i know china's evil and all
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don't think china is related to the russia-ukraine war
12:11
I can't access jack shit, lmao
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too much xenophobia in the world
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at least companies like discord were nice enough to only block nitro payments and not the entire platform
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Fuck it, I guess
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what were you trying to do?
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oh i see
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Wanted to find something about immersive.UI
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ImSwordQueen 31/05/2022 12:14
and no vpns work?
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Any VPN is painfully slow today. I guess they are doing something against VPN's
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vpns usually sussy, but in situations like this, i see their worth
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I'll just fire up a proxy
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lemme guess, US and Chinese goverments trying to eradicate VPNs to be able to spy better
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Scamdisk
don't think china is related to the russia-ukraine war
I think it's related to the China-Taiwan situation
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ImSwordQueen 31/05/2022 12:16
💀
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lemme guess, US and Chinese goverments trying to eradicate VPNs to be able to spy better
More like our ISP's ridding us of it
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9841 with 9845/9834/9821 shell32 moment (edited)
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actually fuck it, maybe replacing every windows.ui dll and twinui related stuff
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Who will teach me debugging /s
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nope, replacing windows.ui.immersive.dll and it's dependencies did not fix the bug
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it's defo not dwm that's responsible for that animation either
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after all, that's the thing that barely got updated
12:48
ok seems like application verifier does work against latest VS installers
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ok spoofing it to 10 1507 does bypass the update requirement
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now time to see if i can actually install it and get it to work
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ofc it really wants .net 4.8 installed
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lemme just force it rq
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ImSwordQueen 31/05/2022 17:18
automaticn't
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barisberat 31/05/2022 19:54
i see the transformation pack exe
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ImSwordQueen 31/05/2022 19:58
nah
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that's just a folder
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you're seeing things
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barisberat 31/05/2022 20:02
"Win8T- Transfo-"
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ImSwordQueen 31/05/2022 20:10
seeing things
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i clearly didn't send any preview before
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never did
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barisberat 31/05/2022 21:03
alright then
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ImSwordQueen 31/05/2022 21:11
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anyone know why I can’t install office on server 2012?
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I get this error with 2019 ltsc and mondo
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@Scamdisk do you know shit about office?
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i tried getting it to work on client, no luck
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I know this online installer works on 8.0
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It worked with embedded
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I think I might have gotten an office installer to work properly
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Deleted User 01/06/2022 18:19
nice
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ImSwordQueen 01/06/2022 20:53
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barisberat 01/06/2022 21:27
"transforming windows"
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ImSwordQueen 01/06/2022 21:28
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Microsoft appears to have deleted these apps
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#RadMorning 02/06/2022 19:31
It seems they recently destroyed this page (edited)
#RadMorning pinned a message to this channel. 02/06/2022 19:32
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#RadMorning 02/06/2022 19:42
Windows 8.0 app on Windows 8.1
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ImSwordQueen 02/06/2022 19:57
@#RadMorning welp lucky for me i archived the page on web archive already (edited)
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and on may too
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i don't think it's the right one but anyway
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#RadMorning 02/06/2022 19:59
I had already tried to search it up via the web archive
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but I didn't get this
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ImSwordQueen 02/06/2022 19:59
weird because i archived it in 2022 too
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#RadMorning 02/06/2022 19:59
the page is also mostly useless except the KB numbers
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ImSwordQueen 02/06/2022 19:59
yeah
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i will archive the msis themselves later
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#RadMorning 02/06/2022 20:00
alrighty
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I thought I'd look at the Music and Video apps so I could a great Metro experience
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but then I realized how much I hate the stupid Xbox integration thing
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ImSwordQueen 02/06/2022 20:01
i wonder if you can get a version of zune video newer than the one here
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because it requires an update
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but where is it getting that update from
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#RadMorning 02/06/2022 20:01
probably on a server Microsoft forgot about years ago
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ImSwordQueen 02/06/2022 20:05
WTF
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#RadMorning 02/06/2022 20:05
Morbius on Windows 8
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the Door guy 02/06/2022 20:06
MORB???
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YALL BETTER GET MORBED NOW!!!
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ImSwordQueen 02/06/2022 20:10
i think i found the last update for 8.0
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of ZuneVideo
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#RadMorning 02/06/2022 20:13
is it worth having?
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ImSwordQueen 02/06/2022 20:14
20:14
it isn't complaining about updates anymore
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so for me yeah
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OK I FOUND WHAT THE 6 IN THE LIVE TILE WAS
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FUCK YOU ZUNE VIDEO
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literally it's not begging me to update nothing anymore
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totally worth it
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10/10
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ok zune music is the same as the msi one
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so no need for it
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the Door guy 02/06/2022 20:22
MORBUS!!!
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THE MOVIE THAT GOT 10 MORBILLIOM DOLLAR!!
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#RadMorning 02/06/2022 20:23
the amount of ads!!!
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Deleted User 02/06/2022 20:23
i didnt watch morbius but i enjoyed it
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#RadMorning 02/06/2022 20:23
?
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ImSwordQueen 02/06/2022 20:27
i realized
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google didn't pull the vista thing on 8.x
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also firefox too but ESR is the way to go
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ImSwordQueen 02/06/2022 21:20
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ImSwordQueen 03/06/2022 00:07
00:09
We're just getting started
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ImSwordQueen 04/06/2022 21:36
Ladies and gentlemen
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the moment is here
21:36
the private beta of win8to7 is here
21:40
Known issues:
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 04/06/2022 21:44
dammit should've misspelt 'us' as 'sus' troll
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
dammit should've misspelt 'us' as 'sus' troll
ImSwordQueen 04/06/2022 21:45
ralseigun
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 04/06/2022 21:45
:reverse:
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 04/06/2022 22:17
anyway, go test ig
22:17
its got lotsa work put into (edited)
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ImSwordQueen
the private beta of win8to7 is here
barisberat 04/06/2022 22:21
>private
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ImSwordQueen 04/06/2022 22:46
It's private that the link is public
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But im trusting you to not give it outside of here
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barisberat 04/06/2022 23:13
ok
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ImSwordQueen
But im trusting you to not give it outside of here
Can I give the link to my cat?
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So, I can't help but notice the atlas texture is really weak
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And I can't adjust it further with AeroGlassGUI
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Any other way?
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So it would look like this at least
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So, I can't help but notice the atlas texture is really weak
ImSwordQueen 06/06/2022 20:12
that's weird
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that's on 9600 right?
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Yeah, 8.1
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ImSwordQueen 06/06/2022 20:13
that's kinda odd.
20:13
probably is a color thing?
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Nope
20:35
i had the same thing
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ImSwordQueen 06/06/2022 20:42
That's really weird
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ImSwordQueen
Known issues:
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 08/06/2022 18:37
3.0 Pre-RC: (edited)
ImSwordQueen pinned a message to this channel. 08/06/2022 19:11
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ImSwordQueen 08/06/2022 21:35
look ma! like milestone 1!
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ImSwordQueen 08/06/2022 22:07
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ImSwordQueen 08/06/2022 23:03
We are getting started at making Rectify7 real
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whats there to rectify its literally the most consistent windows release ever
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ImSwordQueen 08/06/2022 23:05
look at the channel
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whats there to rectify its literally the most consistent windows release ever
ImSwordQueen 08/06/2022 23:05
it's not windows 8
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that's the issue
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is that windows 8 with a 7 skin
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ImSwordQueen 08/06/2022 23:10
yes
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ImSwordQueen 08/06/2022 23:10
the most accurate at that
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are you basing it on a beta build or what
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why the silly ahh account picture in da taskbar
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ImSwordQueen 08/06/2022 23:10
that's 9200
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nah it was for a meme that
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funny number
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what does 9200 mean
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i dont remember each and every windows build ever
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ImSwordQueen 08/06/2022 23:11
8.0
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unlike most people here
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ok
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ImSwordQueen 08/06/2022 23:11
9600 is 8.1
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and 6969 is what your father did to your mother
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trol
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shut up????????1?2??382>$*%,》♤▪︎♤
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■●■□■□■□■■●■●■□♤¥¥
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ImSwordQueen 08/06/2022 23:13
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i regret
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the theme
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: )
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this is just rectify 8.1 then
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ImSwordQueen 08/06/2022 23:25
No
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yeah
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ImSwordQueen 08/06/2022 23:25
No
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because you're not rectifying 7
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ImSwordQueen 08/06/2022 23:26
No
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you're just slapping 7 (the good os) onto 8.1 (the bad ui os)
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ImSwordQueen 08/06/2022 23:26
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/srs ultra /srs
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7 is supreme
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ImSwordQueen 08/06/2022 23:26
Lies
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truth
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ImSwordQueen 08/06/2022 23:26
8 conP theme better
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negative
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ImSwordQueen 08/06/2022 23:26
On 8.x
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flattened aero
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ImSwordQueen 08/06/2022 23:26
U used it
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(i say this using the conp theme on 7)
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ImSwordQueen 08/06/2022 23:27
So
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Positive
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negative
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because i'm back on 7 aero
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ImSwordQueen 08/06/2022 23:27
Me after dropping pennies
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I can't handle change
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Vruh 2
because i'm back on 7 aero
ImSwordQueen 08/06/2022 23:28
Source
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truth
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source:me
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ImSwordQueen 08/06/2022 23:28
Proof
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ImSwordQueen 08/06/2022 23:28
This better anyway
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Release Preview Aero Bad
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ImSwordQueen 08/06/2022 23:29
Negative
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best theme
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ImSwordQueen 08/06/2022 23:30
Dr5
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negative
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ImSwordQueen 08/06/2022 23:30
Not Dr4
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alpha release
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ImSwordQueen 08/06/2022 23:30
Not doctor pepper
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0/10
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Also no lean
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And no mug rootbeer
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-99999999/10
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(edited)
23:31
double embed classic bug
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ImSwordQueen 08/06/2022 23:33
get real
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Vruh 2
double embed classic bug
mine double embeds just about every time
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it never did that until like the past year or so
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me too
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Would someone know how to install fonts from 8 Beta in 8.1?
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Would someone know how to install fonts from 8 Beta in 8.1?
ImSwordQueen 09/06/2022 17:11
go into PE
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replace the fonts folder with the 8 beta one
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with overwriting
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so you don't break stuff
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Yeah, that's the strange part, 8.1 reverts the fonts once I boot up
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 09/06/2022 19:39
weirdly enough I was just able to install Segoe over Segoe with the Font Installer
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I had no issue replacing fonts with older Windows, but 8.1 seems to be the only one reverting
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@Scamdisk have you tried 9385 on amd by any chance
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@ImSwordQueen 9385 does not fix the bsod
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crying in the corner;
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ImSwordQueen 09/06/2022 21:33
rip
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i would try 9415 but it probably has tha bsod too
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
3.0 Pre-RC: (edited)
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 10/06/2022 00:30
Update: FINALISED VERSION IS NEARLY DONE. (edited)
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🤞
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ImSwordQueen 10/06/2022 23:15
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me when
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ImSwordQueen 10/06/2022 23:17
@Vruh 2 you have an another bugcheck friend
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i have a what
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ImSwordQueen 10/06/2022 23:20
deez nutz
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 10/06/2022 23:42
no
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that's not how you play the game
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agree
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
that's not how you play the game
ImSwordQueen 11/06/2022 10:14
it's not about the game
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It's about sending a message
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 11/06/2022 16:35
Windows 8 to Windows 7 Transformation Pack 3.0 will release: Tomorrow. (hopefully) With a lot of improvements and changes present, it will be the definitive way to get the Windows 7 look and feel in Windows 8 and 8.1. (edited)
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the max such thing would cap at would be 1836x (edited)
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due to no aero glass for 1904x and 20348
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even then, some 1909 updates did break glass
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 11/06/2022 16:46
random teaser of 3.0, unique for each server I posted that in I guess: (edited)
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and windowblinds is outright shit
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so doubt a pack for 10 will ever happen
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 11/06/2022 16:46
(Window Colours Automatic and Chocolate can be turned on and off before doing the transformation)
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ImSwordQueen 11/06/2022 16:47
there's something similar
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but wsb
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oh
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ImSwordQueen 11/06/2022 22:05
After a month of waiting it is here. the fully automatic setup for Win8to7 made in collaboration with @That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes. the download can be found here: https://forum.eclectic4un.me/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=107 https://www.deviantart.com/imswordking/art/Windows-8-To-7-Transformation-Pack-916171789 (edited)
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 11/06/2022 22:05
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Good job you two
#RadMorning pinned a message to this channel. 12/06/2022 09:37
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ImSwordQueen 12/06/2022 15:21
what are you on windows
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WDYM. IT'S ALREADY UPDATED
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stupid os
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wtf
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windows was always stupid tbh
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ImSwordQueen 12/06/2022 15:22
what do you want from me shitdrive
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ImSwordQueen 12/06/2022 15:38
u suck
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#RadMorning 12/06/2022 15:39
what app is that?
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ImSwordQueen 12/06/2022 15:39
onedrive for business
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#RadMorning 12/06/2022 15:40
do you really need OneDrive or are you just playing around?
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ImSwordQueen 12/06/2022 15:40
no but i want this gone
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#RadMorning 12/06/2022 15:42
How to Add or Remove "OneDrive" from Navigation Pane of File Explorer in Windows 8.1 SkyDrive is now called OneDrive instead. OneDrive is Now Available Worldwide: Free Cloud Storage for Microsoft, iOS, and Android Devices | OneDrive Blog . OneDrive is a cloud-based storage service where you...
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ImSwordQueen 12/06/2022 15:49
cool it's gone now
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@ImSwordQueen Hello. How'd you make the Show Desktop button appear?
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I wanted to quickly do this with Aero CP theme, WSB is really confusing
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ImSwordQueen 15/06/2022 13:12
?
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wdym
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oh
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I want to make the show desktop button visible in a different theme
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ImSwordQueen 15/06/2022 13:13
it's in taskbar2 something
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i forgor
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This, right?
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ImSwordQueen 15/06/2022 13:13
probably
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actually no
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lemme check up real quicjk
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Isnt in in like, the taskbar texture
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ImSwordQueen 15/06/2022 13:18
yes
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@E2
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Scamdisk
Isnt in in like, the taskbar texture
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 15/06/2022 13:27
yeah
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Finally nailed it, thanks 👍
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yes, server x86 newer than 2008 r1 exists
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ImSwordQueen 15/06/2022 18:51
neat but good luck at getting a copy
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and getting updates
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I do have all the files
19:26
Needed to do so
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Just gotta have to hack them a shitton cuz it won't work ootb
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Shitton of wow64 references and some x64 drivers
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That obivously don't exist on x86
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ImSwordQueen 15/06/2022 20:07
what if
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you hack it up on x86 8 client?
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that should be a lot easier than hack it up on server 2012 x64
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ImSwordQueen
that should be a lot easier than hack it up on server 2012 x64
Well that's what imma do
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smh not showing off the OS it was actually designed for /s
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/06/2022 23:02
smh not showing credits
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ImSwordQueen 18/06/2022 23:31
Eh it happens 😩
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smh not showing credits
barisberat 18/06/2022 23:41
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ImSwordQueen 18/06/2022 23:49
It's not only us
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ImSwordQueen 19/06/2022 14:36
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no windows 8.1 4 me
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You killed 8.1 upgrade offer entirely? Damn (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 19/06/2022 14:47
it never appeared
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lol
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Then again, not like when it appears there isnt a registry tweak set to block it in well, that goddamn iso
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ImSwordQueen 19/06/2022 14:48
ye
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Literally took all known precautions to prevent the 8.1 upgrade from happening
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ImSwordQueen 19/06/2022 14:50
rn the store is having problems for some reason
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I have a feeling MS might shutdown 8.x store a while after 8.1 eos
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doom
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ImSwordQueen 19/06/2022 14:52
which means no more sideloading on 8.1 doom
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Only on 8.0 because wscrack (edited)
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If only it was updated for 8.1
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And on 10, store isnt even needed for dev mode
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But that's besides the point
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 19/06/2022 19:00
that isn't credits
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THIS is the credits area
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barisberat 19/06/2022 21:51
oh nobel tech
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Not very nobel, that one... Erm noble
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Engris Tech feelscringeman
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I swear every tech channel on YouTube is the same lol
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Bad English, hey bro i got this windows theming guide coming soon. it looks legit just like xp
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Bronies in the comments
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Poorly credited, or just outright stolen content
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That's a part of YouTube I keep a distance from ;p
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Not very nobel, that one... Erm noble
Unless Nobel is a name 🧐
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Bad English, hey bro i got this windows theming guide coming soon. it looks legit just like xp
Or @win5270's no-longer-SUPPORTers
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 20/06/2022 22:12
troll
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ImSwordQueen 20/06/2022 22:12
reminds me of
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 20/06/2022 23:59
I fixed AERO Lite. You're welcome, enjoy ig. (edited)
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Does someone know of a proper tool for custom bootscreen logo on 8.1
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E2
Does someone know of a proper tool for custom bootscreen logo on 8.1
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 21/06/2022 14:13
I have been asked how to change the boot logo in Windows 8.1 and Windows 8 thousands of times by the users of my apps and by Winaero blog visitors. This
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ImSwordQueen 21/06/2022 18:48
updating a 8.1 iso with all skus
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I used this tool and thought it was broken as there was black screen with spinner
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Turns out bootres has to be signed with something
ImSwordQueen pinned a message to this channel. 22/06/2022 18:55
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ImSwordQueen 22/06/2022 18:57
from core to enterprise
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ImSwordQueen 23/06/2022 12:24
12:24
this looks cursed
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#RadMorning 23/06/2022 15:39
i think i unpinned it a few days later
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i replaces it with an Internet Wayback link
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windlows 7
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ImSwordQueen 23/06/2022 22:27
Microsoft is readying its campaign to notify Windows 8.1 users about the end-of-support date for the product: January 10, 2023.
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oh
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updates are pointless anyway lol
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Inb4 updates up to Server 2012 R2 eos will still install just fine
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ImSwordQueen 24/06/2022 11:57
Linux says hi
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#RadMorning 24/06/2022 11:58
its market share will see an increase of 0,01%
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(talking about Linux)
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ImSwordQueen 24/06/2022 11:58
2025 says hi too
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That's for ltsc
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#RadMorning 24/06/2022 11:59
2032 says hi too (if you really like Win10)
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ImSwordQueen 24/06/2022 11:59
Windows 10 is a dumpster fire
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#RadMorning
2032 says hi too (if you really like Win10)
still better than 11 trol
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WinDVD
still better than 11 trol
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 24/06/2022 21:40
Windows 10 is mainly why 11 sucks doe
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troll
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true troleybus
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English version of Windows 8 Starter (N)SerialsStarter :C3PVB-FNPQD-WR76V-FBYR7-PDG4W (Setup only)Starter N :744NM-C4FXY-YGM8B-7MVJC-BBFB9 (Setup only)Core...
English version of Windows Server 2012 Web ServerSerial :KN7PC-CJ492-TRM7Q-YY4R4-JHQMC
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it was only a matter of time
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before someone uploaded these to IA
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ImSwordQueen
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Deformisani SAS 25/06/2022 17:07
Does anyone have thst theme? I kinda like it
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ImSwordQueen
Windows 10 is a dumpster fire
Deformisani SAS 25/06/2022 17:08
Still better than 11
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Deformisani SAS
Does anyone have thst theme? I kinda like it
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 26/06/2022 14:03
(insert ISO of Windows 8 8064 here)
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8064's redpill theme is kinda like 8102's
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that looks more like 8056 to me
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 26/06/2022 19:47
(8064 has a Redpill theme?)
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Yeah, that's one of the things they didn't nuke from it
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This is on 8056 but still
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This is 8064's aero.msstyles when redpill stuff is on
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8.1 dissapeared
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Scamdisk
8.1 dissapeared
8.1 store is F??
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F for 8.1 store
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whyyy
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ImSwordQueen 27/06/2022 23:27
They meant the upgrade thing
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@Scamdisk is there sum way to get white titlebar text on 8.1 trol
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Select caption colour and set to whatever you please (edited)
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@Scamdisk is there sum way to get white titlebar text on 8.1 trol
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/06/2022 13:35
Literally part of the msstyles
13:35
Until 10
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When Windows 8 color setting are set to a very dark color, such as black or navy blue, the title bar text and the minimize/maximize buttons are nearly invisible. This makes dark colors difficult to...
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Alt. way without AeroGlassGUI
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ImSwordQueen 29/06/2022 16:27
8to777x trol
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ImSwordQueen
i fixed some bugs. the selected items is still the same as 8400 because i don't know how to fix that. (Works from 8400 to 9200.escrow.2110) (edited)
ImSwordQueen 29/06/2022 18:17
i don't wanna play with you anymore.
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ImSwordQueen 29/06/2022 18:56
x64 works
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ImSwordQueen 30/06/2022 15:57
x64 fixed MS Confidential Watermark for 9200 (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 30/06/2022 17:31
x86 fixed MS Confidential Watermark for 9200 (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 30/06/2022 17:49
@#RadMorning i removed your pinned message with the archived page with all the july 2014 updates for 8.x apps as it was already pinned by me before
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#RadMorning 30/06/2022 17:50
alrighty
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ImSwordQueen 01/07/2022 13:44
Get to know windows 7
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#RadMorning 01/07/2022 13:45
Great question there - what is Windows 7?
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ImSwordQueen 01/07/2022 13:47
13:48
windows made by fabrikam?!!?!?!?!?
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ImSwordQueen 01/07/2022 14:22
wtf 7955 has a better no self host version of help (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 01/07/2022 15:47
15:47
perfect
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Deleted User 01/07/2022 23:04
hi
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ImSwordQueen 01/07/2022 23:05
hi
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ImSwordQueen
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Deleted User 02/07/2022 10:24
Wallpaper: S T R E T C H
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Deformisani SAS 02/07/2022 14:09
14:10
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Deleted User 02/07/2022 19:19
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Abu Faraj al-Libbi 05/07/2022 04:15
that looks pretty good
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wait this isn't 8.1
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ImSwordQueen 05/07/2022 12:28
make the desktop app of onedrive able to sync with a personal acc on 8.1 reg add HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\OneDrive /f /v EnableDownlevelInstallOnBluePlus /t REG_DWORD /d 1
ImSwordQueen pinned a message to this channel. 05/07/2022 12:28
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ImSwordQueen 05/07/2022 12:55
nuked the 8.1 version of onedrive so it doesn't conflict
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now i have options in the onedrive context menu that don't work
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now they are gone
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sadly i nuked search as well (edited)
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oh well
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fuck latest vmware lmfao
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ok nvm that's what happens when no 3d accel
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yeah doesn't seem to die on server oddily enough
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ImSwordQueen 05/07/2022 13:41
Probably something is missing in normal 8.0
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either that or the .net 4.8 method is fucked
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ok so it checks for some shit in server and embedded before kb itself installs
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maybe we could get it to work properly after all
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just need more embedded shit
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ImSwordQueen 05/07/2022 13:45
It would be cool to have proper 4.8 on 8.0
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here's KB4486081 update.mum
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it seems to depend on some shit from both server and embedded
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therefore not applying properly on client
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maybe i should test installing ServerCore-SKU-Foundation on client
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ImSwordQueen 05/07/2022 13:57
Why not embedded?
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actually embedded's .net stuff might be better to install
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i mean IE11 works with embedded shit
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so why not
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so far so good
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ok installing all that embedded specific shit actually fucking worked
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so it's like IE after all, would only work with very specific packages installed
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now lemme see if vs installer dies
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ImSwordQueen 05/07/2022 15:08
4.8 on 8.0 😳
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does it get updates?
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lemme see if i can apply one
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vs installer doesn't die
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guess this is proper after all
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kbs seem to want to install now
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this is a .net 4.8 update (edited)
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ok so VS seems to check if .net 4.8 is installed by the installer rather than the update
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ImSwordQueen 05/07/2022 15:43
will you release this method?
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maybe, i have to do more testing with this method
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even patching that damn installer
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aka changing a check from embedded to client or something
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mfw i don't even need to edit the installer
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just changing both the normal and wow6432node versions of Microsoft/Windows NT/CurrentVersion/InstallationType to Embedded
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and that's it
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it's outright fooled to think it's embedded
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if things go smoothly
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then i might add this trick and .net 4.8 itself back in v3 (edited)
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mfw MS made a newer version of the .net 4.8 offline installer
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but it's only downloaded by VS
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finally got it to work
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VS itself doesn't seem to have any checks to block 8.0
17:27
only the damn installer does
17:27
and .net 4.8 been a roadblock, but i fixed it
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then again, i only install C++ shit
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nodejs and python might be a problem
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you can install vs 2022 on windows 8 without any blocks?
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i hope server 2012 is the same
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well i did some workarounds tho
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mostly fixing .net 4.8 by installing some embedded shit so .net 4.8 related shit actually installs
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and setting InstallationType to Embedded so .net 4.8's setup thing actually installs stuff
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and lastly
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i did highversionlie for vs_setup_bootstrapper.exe to think it's 7 sp1 (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 05/07/2022 17:33
what about updates?
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VS did install an update to .net itself
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and it worked
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once i set InstallationType to Embedded
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yeah that's all it takes to trick the .net 4.8 installer
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and it oddly doesn't reset
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ImSwordQueen 05/07/2022 17:36
checking if updates get applied or not
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why does RT 8.1 need .net 4.8
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it can't run shit
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checking if updates get applied or not
oh they do
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ImSwordQueen 05/07/2022 17:39
i wonder
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if IE11 does the same shit now
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mfw some embedded shit is all it takes to make .net 4.8 install
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oh yeah and a reg tweak
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ImSwordQueen 05/07/2022 17:39
imagine
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wait
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what was the latest version for vista
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of net
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4.6.1
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ImSwordQueen 05/07/2022 17:39
(and what for server 2008)
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for server too right?
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seemnly 4.6.2 for that
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well that's what MS lists at least
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ImSwordQueen 05/07/2022 17:41
imagine if the same thing works on vista too
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doubt i can make this work for LTSB 2015 users tho
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ImSwordQueen 05/07/2022 17:41
except more boring
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updates you mean?
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oh net
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.net 4.8 properly
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ImSwordQueen 05/07/2022 17:42
yeah there... isn't going to be possible
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as 1507 never gotten net 4.8 in the first place (edited)
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for 8.0 it's only possible because embedded and server exist
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ImSwordQueen 05/07/2022 17:42
sadge
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when embedded is useful for more trol
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i hope server 2012 is the same
As for server 2012, all you need is the application verifier trick (edited)
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As .net 4.8 installs on that by default
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ImSwordQueen 05/07/2022 17:52
finished installing 4.8
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still finds 4.6.2 as the final version installed (edited)
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hmmm
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Yeah you defo didn't install the packages
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from embedded
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needed for this
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ImSwordQueen 05/07/2022 17:53
but it did install from the installer
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soooo what
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Is the kb there?
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ImSwordQueen 05/07/2022 17:53
i restarted so can't tell rn
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which kb should it be
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The one in the offline installer that isnt the d3d thing
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ImSwordQueen 05/07/2022 17:57
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@Scamdisk
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it is installed. hm
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Does it still say 4.6.2?
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As the actual installed version
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If that's the case, yeah it didnt install properly
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ImSwordQueen 05/07/2022 18:02
it says 4.6.2 there
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but it says the update has been installed
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soooo what
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i'm going to check if the installer says something else
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You need those Embedded packages installed
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For it to actually install properly
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ImSwordQueen 05/07/2022 18:03
can you send them here? trol
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Download the entirety of WE8S
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ImSwordQueen 05/07/2022 18:05
18:05
lies
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extract the mums and cats from Windows\Servicing\Packages Extract the manifests from Windows\winsxs\manifests Extract everything else from windows\winsxs All in the same folder
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ImSwordQueen 05/07/2022 18:06
so i don't have to install actual embedded 8 standard
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Then extract the Embedded lp in another folder
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so i don't have to install actual embedded 8 standard
Yeah you don't have to
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ImSwordQueen 05/07/2022 18:06
thank god
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Then install all the Embedded packages listed in .net 4.8's update.mum
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Then restart, then install .net 4.8 again after obivously uninstalling it before all of this
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ImSwordQueen 05/07/2022 18:09
i guess i'll wait for the updated iso
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with 4.8 installed
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Will have to check all updates after 2021-03 for the wallpaper bug as well
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ImSwordQueen 05/07/2022 18:10
2021-03 confirmed to have the wallpaper bug
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2021-04 confirmed to not have it
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If the only buggy update is 2021-03 then there would be no more 2021-02
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Unless someone clearly wants the option
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ImSwordQueen 05/07/2022 18:14
Win 8.0 Security updates that has or has not the wallpaper bug (2021-2022) 2021-01 Nothing 2021-02 Nothing 2021-03 Has the bug 2021-04 Nothing 2021-05 ??? 2021-06 ??? 2021-07 ??? 2021-08 ??? 2021-09 Nothing 2021-10 Nothing 2021-11 Nothing 2021-12 Nothing 2022-01 No wallpaper bug but bad shell32 2022-02 Nothing 2022-03 No wallpaper bug but bad shell32 (iirc) 2022-04 No wallpaper bug but bad shell32 (iirc) 2022-05 Nothing 2022-06 Nothing (edited)
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Would still be a better compromise than a 2 isos one with IE11 and one without
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ImSwordQueen 05/07/2022 18:14
in the 2022 security only updates i forgor
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Also 2022-02 doesnt have the bad Shell32
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ImSwordQueen 05/07/2022 18:15
the bad shell32 was updated near march/april
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Welp at least solved the .net 4.8 dillema i think
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and got latest VS to actually work
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amd gpu drivers when trol
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Would have to leave it to someone more experienced in IDA and shit to do that one
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nah just lots of tape should work
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I wrote documentation on the watchdog driver today. https://github.com/win32ss/watchdog_basic_documentation
Basic documentation and header for the Windows NT 5.1+ watchdog.sys system driver - GitHub - win32ss/watchdog_basic_documentation: Basic documentation and header for the Windows NT 5.1+ watchdog.sy...
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Maybe I should write some sort of kernel debugging thingy next.
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ImSwordQueen 05/07/2022 20:23
damn nice
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latest .net 4.8 rollup installed
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ok installed every post 2021-02 update that ain't 2021-03 and there's only 2 other updates that seemnly bring the bug
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2021-04 and 2022-05
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everything else didn't give me the bug
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only 2 2021 updates and one 2022 one
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ImSwordQueen 06/07/2022 11:15
huh weird
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for me 2022-05 didn't give me the bug
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can you give me the kb number of 2022-05?
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just to check up if i really have it or not
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5014018
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hell i guess
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ImSwordQueen 06/07/2022 11:23
huh i guess i didn't install it then
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i don't have it
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good to know
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2021-04 is 5001383
11:24
also brings in wallpaper bug
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ImSwordQueen 06/07/2022 11:25
are you doing security only?
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yes
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ImSwordQueen 06/07/2022 11:25
tf how did i miss 2022-04
11:25
i swear i installed it
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so 2021-04 and 2022-05 are the only other updates with the bug
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ImSwordQueen 06/07/2022 11:29
odd i swore 2021-04 was bug free
11:29
strange
11:29
welp good to know
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guessing you installed another thing and thought it was 2021-04
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ImSwordQueen 06/07/2022 11:31
maybe
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there's a bug with .net 4.8's installer where if the newer VS one is installed, then it stops thinking it's installed
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this happens on Server too so not really a Client problem
12:08
but rather a problem with the installer
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#RadMorning 06/07/2022 13:03
I've got a question about .NET 4.8 on Win8
13:03
Even if you've got .NET 4.8 installed, can you run apps that require it on Win8?
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Is it completely functional?
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i mean i got fucking VS 2022 running on Win8 and that does seemnly require .net 4.8
13:05
so yes it does work
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just not in that older method
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vs installer dies with that one
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ImSwordQueen 06/07/2022 13:06
all .net 4.x programs die with that method actually
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guess discord's .net 4.x requirement is arbritary then if it doesn't die
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requiring .net to install a chrome frontend feelscringeman
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i wouldnt had gotten this far with the shitty trick
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ofc it would work better when you shove in more embedded shit and then edit the registry to make the installer think it's embedded
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oh yeah and spoofing VS' installer into thinking it's running on 7 SP1
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anyway, now gonna give 2021-12 option instead of 2021-02
13:50
2021-12 been right before bad shell32
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how does that sound?
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ImSwordQueen 06/07/2022 13:58
sounds good
13:58
probably keep 2021-02 v2
13:58
while nuke 2021-03
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as you are going to include net 4.8 in 2021-12 from what i seen right? @Scamdisk
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yeah, proper .net 4.8
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with some Rollups
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well all rollups i could find that specify ndp48
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ImSwordQueen 06/07/2022 13:59
yeah then nuke only 2021-03 while keeping 2021-02 v2
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i don't think i've updated the forum thread
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ImSwordQueen 06/07/2022 14:00
yeah you didn't
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maybe i should include the embeddedizemeplease.reg as an extra
14:06
also since i skipped 2021-03 and 2021-04, there's no wallpaper bug
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ImSwordQueen 06/07/2022 14:06
14:06
aged horribly
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things that didn't age well
14:07
might have to put a "for real this time i swear"
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#RadMorning 06/07/2022 20:53
I'm gonna try it in a VM
20:53
I'm most interested in the installer
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#RadMorning 06/07/2022 21:05
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ImSwordQueen 06/07/2022 21:11
don't use that iso
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#RadMorning 06/07/2022 21:13
okay
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ImSwordQueen 06/07/2022 21:16
8.0 with no updates is the worst OS to test 8to7 on
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versions of windows 8 to NOT use 8to7 on: Windows 8 RTM no updates Windows 8.1 RTM no updates Windows 8.1 Update 1 no updates
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ImSwordQueen 06/07/2022 21:20
i removed the first message as it's a duplicate of the second
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#RadMorning 06/07/2022 21:20
alright
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portable/embeddable python still runs on "unsupported" windows versions
07:07
it's only that goddamn installer that blocks 7 and 8.0
07:12
yes python, 8.1 is defo a requirement
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07:19
was thinking it was gonna require R2
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Scamdisk
it's only that goddamn installer that blocks 7 and 8.0
Of course it is
07:40
We've seen that song whistled before
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this ain't gonna be as easy as working around .net 4.8
07:41
that's for sure
07:43
node.js just uses a MSI
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so it's a simple orca edit away
07:44
tho that seems to require a flag in the env variable to actually run
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ImSwordQueen 07/07/2022 21:11
working on something
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OH HELL NAH!!!!
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ImSwordQueen 07/07/2022 23:34
it's windows 7 to 8 trol
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barisberat 08/07/2022 09:15
win8tox
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ImSwordQueen 08/07/2022 21:37
21:37
just a normal windows 8to7 setup
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 08/07/2022 23:08
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23:14
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whats glass8
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ImSwordQueen 08/07/2022 23:15
@That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes wanna buy glass8? trol
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skip
whats glass8
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 08/07/2022 23:16
Aero Glass for Windows 8.X/10
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ImSwordQueen 08/07/2022 23:16
we should buy it
23:16
and redirect it to win8to7
23:16
trol
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 08/07/2022 23:29
lol.
23:29
There's still time to archive Glass8's files btw. add this to your HOSTS: 62.109.140.34 glass8.eu that'll make the website work again enough to allow downloading everything from it
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 09/07/2022 00:02
Everything from Aero Glass for Windows 8.1's website, https://glass8.eu/, crawled from its IP shortly after the domain entered 'Quarantine'.This archive...
docR pinned a message to this channel. 09/07/2022 00:07
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fully dead ig
00:33
but expected
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ImSwordQueen 09/07/2022 12:59
Project8400 dead post 8to8RP
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make it uninstall the default 9200 apps, install wscrack, then install 8400 apps if on well, 9200
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/s
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ImSwordQueen 09/07/2022 13:04
it's possible trol
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fuck yeah
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fuck glass8
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should i prebundle this tweak?
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#RadMorning 09/07/2022 15:40
it's a good tweak imo
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so yes
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ImSwordQueen 09/07/2022 15:40
meh. it isn't vanilla
15:40
so for me no
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well i did tweak a lot just to block 8.1 so
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ImSwordQueen 09/07/2022 15:40
i mean
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force upgrading to 8.1 is needed
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because you want 8.0 and not 8.1 (edited)
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ofc
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ImSwordQueen 09/07/2022 15:41
meanwhile the rest should be vanilla imo (edited)
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except for the embedded stuff clugging up because IE and .NET
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#RadMorning 09/07/2022 15:41
it isn't a tweak that drastically changes something, it just speeds up the startup routine
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sword seems to be right about this
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#RadMorning 09/07/2022 15:46
could've guessed
15:46
better listen to an expert
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 09/07/2022 22:56
ngl when I read 'sword' in here I thought of the Mario Kart Player
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Scamdisk
should i prebundle this tweak?
Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 10/07/2022 02:21
whats it do
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decreases Win32 app startup delay
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 10/07/2022 07:52
based
07:52
include it
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Scamdisk
decreases Win32 app startup delay
who wouldnt want that
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i dunno tbf
08:14
the 8.1 blocking tweaks were a requirement
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time to clean all this shit up
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#RadMorning 10/07/2022 12:48
thing that happens when you uninstall the 8to7 transformation pack
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ImSwordQueen 10/07/2022 20:35
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#RadMorning
thing that happens when you uninstall the 8to7 transformation pack
thats because the mui gets cached
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it will clear itself back... eventually feelscringeman
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Deleted User 11/07/2022 19:43
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#RadMorning 11/07/2022 19:43
average family PC setup in the Balkans be like
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#RadMorning
average family PC setup in the Balkans be like
Deleted User 11/07/2022 19:44
the pc is actually a laptop behind a bed
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for this setup
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my main is on the other side
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Deleted User 11/07/2022 20:17
but yes lol genius keyboard
20:17
only one they had in the store to fit to the setup
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#RadMorning 11/07/2022 20:20
is that enough room for the laptop for reliable ventilation?
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#RadMorning
is that enough room for the laptop for reliable ventilation?
Deleted User 11/07/2022 20:22
yes
20:23
just enough
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Deleted User
but yes lol genius keyboard
Deleted User 11/07/2022 20:23
and hp oem mouse
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ImSwordQueen 11/07/2022 20:23
why not using the laptop as the keyboard doe
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ImSwordQueen
why not using the laptop as the keyboard doe
Deleted User 11/07/2022 20:25
not enough space
20:25
unless i want to use the trackpad
20:26
and cables would look ugly
20:26
this looks clean
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ImSwordQueen 11/07/2022 20:26
but you have to reach the laptop to turn it on (edited)
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Deleted User 11/07/2022 20:26
eh big deal
20:26
i just have to lay on the bed, move the laptop a little but and press the button (edited)
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#RadMorning 11/07/2022 20:29
I thought you turned on 'wake on AC'
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if you have that enabled, you can just replug the power to the laptop
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and it will just turn on
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#RadMorning
I thought you turned on 'wake on AC'
Deleted User 11/07/2022 20:30
cant access bios
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#RadMorning 11/07/2022 20:30
locked down firmware?
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Deleted User 11/07/2022 20:31
because bios does not show up on external display
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#RadMorning 11/07/2022 20:31
ouch
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Deleted User 11/07/2022 20:31
nothing shows up on external display until windows lock screen shows up
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#RadMorning 11/07/2022 20:31
when I have my laptop closed, it just shows everything on the external monitor instead
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Deleted User 11/07/2022 20:31
hmmmm i dont have the lid rn
20:31
i do but ehhhh
20:32
its not attached
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average family PC setup in the Balkans be like
Deformisani SAS 11/07/2022 22:49
true lol
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ImSwordQueen 11/07/2022 22:49
after 1 "successful" transformation later
22:49
it's alive! (edited)
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Deformisani SAS 11/07/2022 22:49
what?
22:50
your windows 8 build that looks like 7?
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ImSwordQueen 11/07/2022 22:50
no
22:50
the 7 shit are leftovers
22:50
from the previous transformation
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Deformisani SAS 11/07/2022 22:50
ok
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ImSwordQueen 11/07/2022 22:50
the release preview stuff is the stuff i'm caring for
22:50
as they work
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with difficulties
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Deformisani SAS 11/07/2022 22:50
fun fact: windows 7s theme works on 10
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ImSwordQueen 11/07/2022 22:50
but they work
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Deformisani SAS 11/07/2022 22:51
although since windows 10 uses acrylic the transparency is fucked up.
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Deformisani SAS
fun fact: windows 7s theme works on 10
ok
03:38
windowblinds
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Deformisani SAS 12/07/2022 03:40
nope
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no like
03:56
that is windowblinds bro (edited)
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Deformisani SAS
fun fact: windows 7s theme works on 10
Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 12/07/2022 04:10
this is possibly the worst recreation of windows 7's theme on 10 i've seen to date
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that is windowblinds bro (edited)
Deformisani SAS 12/07/2022 05:57
no
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It's not bad for what it is
12:45
Apply a taskbar texture to open/classic shell though
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Deformisani SAS
fun fact: windows 7s theme works on 10
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 12/07/2022 13:43
nice WindowBlinds I guess
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ImSwordQueen 12/07/2022 15:51
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awesome
19:08
release preview makes me nostalgic
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i installed it on my netbook
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when it came out
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and i had it in a vm on my pc too
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#RadMorning 12/07/2022 19:41
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It only looks alright in that color
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They didn't bother making the Bell transparent
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#RadMorning 12/07/2022 19:43
that bell icon is very out of place imo
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doesn't really fit
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too rounded for Metro
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ImSwordQueen 12/07/2022 20:55
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Deleted User 12/07/2022 20:58
susi baka
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Scamdisk
Click to see attachment 🖼️
you who installed updatestrol
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Deleted User 12/07/2022 20:59
imagine installing updates
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imo updates are only good on vista and pre vista
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ImSwordQueen 12/07/2022 21:00
21:00
to adding to the fucked 8.1 install
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that i have to reinstall
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imo updates are only good on vista and pre vista
Deleted User 12/07/2022 21:00
for 7 if you know which ones are a threat
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they usually slow down on 7
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bloat the shit out of it
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ImSwordQueen 12/07/2022 21:00
clearly renaming/copying folders are overrated
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i never had issues with the 2018 iso
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ImSwordQueen 12/07/2022 21:00
or even restoring folders
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Deleted User 12/07/2022 21:01
i just used vanilla sp1 and updated it
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ImSwordQueen
clearly renaming/copying folders are overrated
that is my fucking nightmare right there
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ImSwordQueen 12/07/2022 21:01
i fucked up with onedrive
21:01
i see why onedrive of 8.1 doesn't want you to log in with the other onedrive
21:02
well when 8to8RP is finished i will move temporally to a 8.0 install
21:02
which i will setup the only necessary to reinstall the whole thing
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remember skydrive?
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Click to see attachment 🖼️
DeRosenberg 12/07/2022 21:39
I mean there would still be programs that will support 8.1 (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 12/07/2022 22:16
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Don't you wish 8 looked like this?
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ImSwordQueen 12/07/2022 22:50
Why wishing when you can get it today
22:50
With project 8400
👆🏻 1
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Advertising a dead product that will be replaced soon
9head 2
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 13/07/2022 00:42
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you dont say?
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blursed
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DeRosenberg
I mean there would still be programs that will support 8.1 (edited)
Most of them will drop 8.x when they drop 7
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 13/07/2022 07:25
when it comes to support 8.x is to 7 like vista was to xp
07:25
it may be a newer os but low markrt share relative to the other os gets it lumped in w it
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ok 2022-07 doesn't seem to exibit the wallpaper bug, good
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ImSwordQueen 13/07/2022 09:30
for now apps that stopped support 8.x are the ones that use qt6
09:30
or microsoft made ones
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Scamdisk
Most of them will drop 8.x when they drop 7
blender didnt
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ImSwordQueen 13/07/2022 09:33
also i'm pretty sure that most apps dropping 8.x is not because they don't have apis that don't allow them to work
09:34
but because they wanted to drop support
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hell will freeze over at usual once google pulls the plug
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ImSwordQueen
but because they wanted to drop support
well i mean adobe dropped 8.x and early 10 (10240 and 10586) before 7 so uhh (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 13/07/2022 09:50
it's morally correct to pirate adobe products
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yes
09:51
good i only had to skip 3 updates so far
09:51
it's a given that there may be more updates with wallpaper bug
09:53
and firefox may support it for a year after chrome drops
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but because they wanted to drop support
#RadMorning 13/07/2022 09:55
developers don't see a point in developing apps for an OS that is going to die within 6 months so
09:56
they may as well drop support for both 7 and 8.x
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and steam might drop late as usual
09:57
considering xp and vista were supported till 2019, like 3 years after chrome dropped support
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ImSwordQueen
it's morally correct to pirate adobe products
Deleted User 13/07/2022 10:57
thistbh
10:57
paying monthly is the worst invention ever
10:58
remember old iChoons? you can keep the music forever
#RadMorning pinned a message to this channel. 13/07/2022 13:23
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pin me 😏
13:23
oh
13:23
done already
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#RadMorning 13/07/2022 13:23
lmao
13:23
done
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Deformisani SAS 13/07/2022 17:57
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updated my iso with dotnet 3.5 preinstalled
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updated my iso with dotnet 3.5 preinstalled
Deleted User 13/07/2022 18:13
nice
18:13
you uploading?
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i simply replaced the file with the same link
18:14
its in pinned
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Deleted User 13/07/2022 18:14
ahhhhh
18:14
not gonna use it but good anyway
18:14
i dont need updated windows 8.1
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i made it mostly for my own use and thought yall would appreciate it
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Deleted User 13/07/2022 18:14
only update 1
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i always fully update my installs
18:14
whatever os it is
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Deleted User 13/07/2022 18:15
only time i did it was last time on 7 on my main
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uninstalled the bad updates
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and it got so slow you never did it again
18:15
well yeah win7 is extremely slow with updates
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Deleted User 13/07/2022 18:15
i have an ssd now
18:15
its still there
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Deleted User 13/07/2022 18:15
its main os
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it was actually a bad hdd i had that was slow
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its 16 years old
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Deleted User 13/07/2022 18:16
it needs a break
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wouldnt trust my data with that
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Deleted User 13/07/2022 18:16
i had some shit on it but nothing that cant be found on the internet
18:17
now its not in the pc since i got a 1tb toshiba pc p300
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skip
pin me 😏
😳 you're supposed to be straight
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 14/07/2022 19:52
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ImSwordQueen 14/07/2022 23:29
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#RadMorning 15/07/2022 06:53
What is the best way to activate Windows 8.x?
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 15/07/2022 06:55
buy product key
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#RadMorning 15/07/2022 06:55
Correction: What is the best way to activate Windows 8.x without buying a product key?
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 15/07/2022 06:56
buy motherboard that is pre-activated with 8.x
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#RadMorning 15/07/2022 06:56
lazy to correct
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 15/07/2022 06:57
if you hate the law and microsoft etc etc etc shady download etc etc i usually use the first to third copy of kmspico i find from a google search then run a virus scan afterwards
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#RadMorning 15/07/2022 06:57
see, that's what I would do... I was wondering if there was something like https://github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts but for Windows 8.x
A collection of scripts for activating Microsoft products using HWID / KMS38 / Online KMS activation methods with a focus on open-source code, less antivirus detection and user-friendliness. - GitH...
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 15/07/2022 06:58
beyond searching kmspico and the other kms thing i haven't cracked 8.1 in any other way
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#RadMorning 15/07/2022 06:59
actually, online KMS can activate Windows 8 and 8.1 (edited)
06:59
gonna try this in a VM
07:00
it's probably the same thing as KMSpico
07:00
but without the virus risk
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 15/07/2022 07:00
virus risk makes it exciting
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#RadMorning 15/07/2022 07:01
07:02
07:02
👍
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set kms server
08:15
enter random key that works
08:15
slmgr -ato
08:15
done
08:16
KMS Emulator in C (currently runs on Linux including Android, FreeBSD, Solaris, Minix, Mac OS, iOS, Windows with or without Cygwin)
08:16
here
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0/10 no app- oh wait yeah, wscrack is flagged by most antiviruses
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ImSwordQueen 15/07/2022 11:52
and piracy
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Scamdisk
0/10 no app- oh wait yeah, wscrack is flagged by most antiviruses
was checking wscrack on google and got this picture lmao
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RayZen
was checking wscrack on google and got this picture lmao
hidemyass is a vpn
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and a shit one from what i heard
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Deformisani SAS 15/07/2022 14:46
🤔
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can this be used on Server 2012 (R1)?
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once again, fuck winsxs
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winsxs sucks yes
09:07
what compression did you use on the wim tho
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Converting this to esd rn
09:22
Which is taking a painfully long time due to: 1. 3 indexes 2. My shit HW
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Even then, this might still end up in a 5gb esd
10:11
yup
10:12
the esd compression resulted in 2.08 gb shaved off
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cant you load the wim and do the funny winsxs component cleanup using dism++
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i did
10:13
still failed with "some where cleaned up but you need 8.1 for full clean" meme
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win5270
can this be used on Server 2012 (R1)?
ImSwordQueen 16/07/2022 10:37
Ye
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Scamdisk
yup
fuck up sxs
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nah don't wanna break shit further than i already have
10:39
i shoved in embedded shit just for IE11 and .NET 4.8
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even tho only the latter is included
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well are you using compression
10:42
at all
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yes
10:49
without any compression it would had been fucking 17gb or larger
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there's nothing i can do that doesn't involve separating all skus into their own isos
10:57
which feels rather stupid
11:01
it's the same 3 skus as that 2021-02 one
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well uh
11:01
no other skus?trol
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no, there's no starter, enterprise or rt
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no i mean
11:02
have only 1 skutrol
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it's either between pro and prowmc i guess
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prowmc why not
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or just core, but well, edition upgrades 1. take a shitton of time because of the updates 2. temp fills up rather quickly meaning it can't be done in a PE
11:04
so it's easier to have all 3 in a single ESD instead
11:04
so a inplace upgrade can done instead
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upgrading from what
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core > prowmc for example
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why would you install core first to begin with
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if it was just core then that would had been the only choice
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it would make sense for win7 > win8
11:06
but win8>win8prowmc with updates
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ehj
11:06
dunno
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still takes less time than anytime upgrade or dism would
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well
11:07
your choice
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guess 2022-07 iso no more then
11:08
because it would become literally 6gb esd
11:09
if installing 2022 updates, just skip 2022-05
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Scamdisk
once again, fuck winsxs
winsex
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win5270
can this be used on Server 2012 (R1)?
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 16/07/2022 12:13
pretty sure it'd work fine in Server
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Win8To7 does in Server as well (once it's fully updated) (edited)
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or rather, updated enough for no funny shit to happen
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aka wallpaper bug or shit shell32/themecpl
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ImSwordQueen 16/07/2022 12:15
2021-02 is the sweet spot
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for both 8.x
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2021-12 if you skip 2 bad updates
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for 8.0
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the 2 bad updates are 2021-03 and 2021-04
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and if doing 2022 updates, skip 2022-05
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ImSwordQueen 16/07/2022 12:17
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and replace shell32 and themecpl asap
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ImSwordQueen
Click to see attachment 🖼️
ImSwordQueen 16/07/2022 12:17
looks cursed
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Scamdisk
and if doing 2022 updates, skip 2022-05
why
12:17
whats with these bad updates
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wallpaper bug
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what wp bug
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ImSwordQueen 16/07/2022 12:17
do you like having black as your wallpaper
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and only black
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solid black
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i dont have wp bug on 8.1
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ImSwordQueen 16/07/2022 12:18
8.1 doesn't have it
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yeah that's a 8.0 only issue
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use 8.1
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trol
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no ralseigun
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ImSwordQueen 16/07/2022 12:18
!brazil @skip no
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its just 8.0 with a start button
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not really
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ImSwordQueen 16/07/2022 12:18
i can't use the real -brazil whyyy
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incoming
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with .net 4.8 that works for real this time i swear
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Scamdisk
aka wallpaper bug or shit shell32/themecpl
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 16/07/2022 12:21
or Segone UI fonts (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 16/07/2022 12:21
no that's without updates
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with updates it's either gonna be wallpaper bug or shit shell32/themecpl
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ImSwordQueen 16/07/2022 12:22
wait
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what happen to themecpl
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i've had a themecpl not supported error from aero glass with 2022 updates applied, well the version your w8tow7tp has
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ImSwordQueen 16/07/2022 12:23
huh interesting
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that may be due to your themecpl mods as well
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ImSwordQueen 16/07/2022 12:24
i mean
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it works below 2022-xx
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so i don't think so
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well guess only the 2021-12 iso is going out after all
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no 2022-07 iso
12:25
doubt that's gonna be a bad thing
12:25
considering 2021-12 is the last without bad dlls
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that fuck up third party shit
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and well doesn't contain 2021-03 and 2021-04 so wallpaper bug free
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what wp bug
sorry for ping but here's what i mean by wallpaper bug
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ImSwordQueen 16/07/2022 12:44
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funny
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Scamdisk
sorry for ping but here's what i mean by wallpaper bug
Deformisani SAS 16/07/2022 12:50
wtf is that flickering
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Scamdisk
sorry for ping but here's what i mean by wallpaper bug
thats stupid
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why doesnt microsoft fix it
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ImSwordQueen 16/07/2022 12:51
a. they clearly don't care about 8.0
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b. most businesses don't care
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businesses that run embedded 8 standard or server 2012R1
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wtf is that flickering
Low quality to be able to upload on discord
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Deformisani SAS 16/07/2022 12:56
ok
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HOLY SHIT
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Deformisani SAS 16/07/2022 16:14
wait is that his new video?
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can't wait to watch it (i'm playing csgo rn)
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0/10 no 8.0 /s /j
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wait is that his new video?
ImSwordQueen 16/07/2022 16:18
yeah
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hold up
16:20
what did you use for that start menu
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ImSwordQueen 16/07/2022 16:22
windows7like
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it looks off
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lol
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i think it was meant to be as accurate as possible within CS limits
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oofer_dww
it looks off
ImSwordQueen 16/07/2022 16:55
ehhh
16:56
open shell is probably the worst version to run anyway
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as it doesn't have the jumplist fix that sab does
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meanwhile me with 7's actual explorer
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yeah ex7forw8
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Deformisani SAS 16/07/2022 17:55
nice
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Meanwhile me with actual 7 trol
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fun fact: 8.0 is the last os where these damn bootcamp drivers for my shitass old macbook work properly
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ImSwordQueen 16/07/2022 18:26
ralseigun
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ImSwordQueen 17/07/2022 14:32
tall boi
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WSB moment
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ImSwordQueen 17/07/2022 22:26
jumplists are no longer fucked without sib
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they will be fucked on 8.0 though
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also it works with sib
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so after a lot of swearing
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this works
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Awesome!
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ImSwordQueen 17/07/2022 22:53
i spoke too soon
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it broke on me already
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:(
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ImSwordQueen 17/07/2022 23:23
spoke too soon
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sib is broken
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:(
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next stop: taskbar is broken
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sib is broken
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/07/2022 15:01
well yeah ofc. it would be
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to fix a Jump List in 8.1, you have to kill Start Menu support in your msstyles for normal Start Menu (not the SIB-exclusive stuff).
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(since 8.1 Jump Lists use pieces of the former Start Menu contents) (edited)
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Honestly, strat'd seriously just be making the Jump Lists fix exclusive to SMOpenShell in 9600, and leaving the unfixed theme in place for every other possible condition.
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Someone l33k Glass8 symbols /s
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can anyone like show me how glass8 works and stuff
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how to get the funny win8 developer preview title bars
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and stuff like that
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im a complete and utter noob at this
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oh ok some dude on rutracker has cracked version of like every glass8 release ever made
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#RadMorning 21/07/2022 10:00
you can use AeroGlassGUI to change options
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you change the title bar and window borders by changing the 'theme atlas' (edited)
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Everything from Aero Glass for Windows 8.1's website, https://glass8.eu/, crawled from its IP shortly after the domain entered 'Quarantine'.This archive...
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THIS IS BEAUTIFUL
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also i think i can install classic shell to get blurred taskbar
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#RadMorning 21/07/2022 10:08
nope
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you can change the transparency with it, but not have it blurred
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#RadMorning 21/07/2022 10:08
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the rutracker page said that (as of 2019) open-shell had the option to use aero glass to blur the taskbar
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#RadMorning 21/07/2022 10:09
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well, that option does exist
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Actually settings CS' taskbar option to opaque enables blur
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because it's trying to make the taskbar opaque yet aero glass is forcing it into been transparent and such
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resulting in the blur
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#RadMorning 21/07/2022 10:12
ah
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I know that the Start menu gets blurred
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but I didn't know about the taskbar
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tho it's more or so the result of an unintended circumstance
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because of aero glass overriding it (edited)
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So think of it more as a trick than anything, idk
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#RadMorning 21/07/2022 10:15
it works
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and that's all that matters
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the glass8 archive doesn't have AeroGlassGUI (edited)
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grrrrr
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so aero glass would also draw its skin over it right?
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#RadMorning 21/07/2022 10:16
10:16
didn't get your question
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like for example
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the "glass reflection" effect
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texture
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Yeah it does draw that
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ok
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i got this repack off rutracker which has many patched versions of aeroglass and a handy script which automatically chooses the right version for your windows build (edited)
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For 8.x, would rather use the painteR ones
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whats the difference
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it works
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it uses the original setup
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while still been cracced
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oh well
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#RadMorning 21/07/2022 10:20
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that ain't so good
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10:21
that's better
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where do you get these atlases?
11:07
ultimate pogggg thank you imsword
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ImSwordQueen 21/07/2022 11:11
Proton doe
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Actually it ain't bad
11:12
Looks a lot better with aero
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#RadMorning 21/07/2022 11:31
11:31
I switched back to 78.15.0esr because of the look
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it's still very useable
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and useful
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78 is also faster on old hardware
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i just keep waterfox g3 around for it
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g4 doesnt even run cause stupid sse requirement
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oh ok some dude on rutracker has cracked version of like every glass8 release ever made
1.3.1 isn't there sadly
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1.3.1 isn't there sadly
is that version important in any way
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ive been using 1.4 so far and its ok
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It has experimental support for windows 10 technical preview
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Ideally I'd patch it myself, but BigMuscle has integrity checks in place
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i mean no one's gonna main win10 tp
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Gosh his wording for donation features is just confusing :')
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i mean no one's gonna main win10 tp
troll
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yeah i will let it slide, but doubt anyone else on bw would
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But honestly, I'm not using it for daily driver. I installed it on a .vhdx to investigate the VM shutdown bug
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It's pretty stable for what it's worth, but still a very, very bad idea
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Meanwhile 9834 is very stable outside of the nvidia bug and the chromium bug
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ImSwordQueen 21/07/2022 11:45
9888 most stable 10 release trol
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Ah yes, carrying over all of 9879's bugs stable
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Meanwhile 9834 is very stable outside of the nvidia bug and the chromium bug
I recently tried transplanting over DWM from 9833, and even making a wrapper with the functions that are apparently missing in 9834, but to no avail, no idea why
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Yet 9879 doesnt have the chromium bug
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More or so a problem with builds before it because even 9860 has that bug
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Always gotta sacrifice one thing for another Or just use a stable release :D
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Yeah, If You really want that start menu, just buy a RT device troll
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8.1 on arm got that start menu as an update
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Oooh I forgot lol, they did port that
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Flexing on 8.1 people
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ImSwordQueen
9888 most stable 10 release trol
It dies if you install Nvidia newer than 33x, I tried
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ImSwordQueen 21/07/2022 11:51
rip
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I guess 9884 dies too, because of 10.0
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Except we only have files from 9884
11:52
not the build itself
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ImSwordQueen 21/07/2022 11:52
11:52
i like this
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also it thinks it's night for some reason
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Scamdisk
not the build itself
Whoever has it, probably doesn't enjoy having 33x driver 😂
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If only MS allowed disabling that U1 titlebar thing on desktop
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Shit really fucks up with modernmix (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 21/07/2022 11:54
thing is
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a modern version of modernmix has that
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Yeah guess not the common cracked one
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E2
troll
troled watermark
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ImSwordQueen 21/07/2022 11:54
yeah....
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I bear the advantage of native implementation
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based no watermark
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How did PainteR crack glass8?
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PainteR is a fucking wizard
11:55
fucker even removed the fucking hash in 7989's shell32
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ImSwordQueen
Click to see attachment 🖼️
i dont have the calendar and weather apps whyyy
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Scamdisk
PainteR is a fucking wizard
isnt he russian
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Scamdisk
fucker even removed the fucking hash in 7989's shell32
He very well is.
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ImSwordQueen 21/07/2022 11:57
painter be like:
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chad painter enjoyer vs virgin simplex fan
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ImSwordQueen 21/07/2022 11:58
my man ported almost all the 8 beta themes to 7
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The common cracked version of modernmix is also made by PainteR
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wtf i froze explorer
11:59
amazing
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painteR also made uwd
11:59
absolute chad
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yoo i used uwd
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doesnt seem to work on win11 tho
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ImSwordQueen 21/07/2022 12:00
it works
12:00
but not with sab
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It doesnt work with SAB
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ImSwordQueen 21/07/2022 12:00
also painteR cracked start8
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my man went
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fuck y'all
12:01
and cracked all the 8's customization software that was public back then
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Flexing on 8.1 people
Deformisani SAS 21/07/2022 12:01
beta start menu?
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he is literally using win10 tp
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Deformisani SAS 21/07/2022 12:02
tp?
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technical preview
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Deformisani SAS 21/07/2022 12:02
why
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because yes
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Funny start menu + haha funny flight signing nuked iso
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But honestly, I'm not using it for daily driver. I installed it on a .vhdx to investigate the VM shutdown bug
^
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honestly the windows vista / 7 start menu is easily inferior to the metro start screen
12:05
look how cluttered it is if i add my apps
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meanwhile the start screen fits more and still has plenty of room
12:06
from a functionality standpoint the start screen is just better
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honestly the windows vista / 7 start menu is easily inferior to the metro start screen
#RadMorning 21/07/2022 12:09
also no categorization
12:09
no grouping
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exactly
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ImSwordQueen 21/07/2022 12:10
i only use the 7 one because of the faster shutdown option
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and especially the windows 10 start menu is superior over both since it has folders and can still fit as many apps as you want in a smaller space
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you can also make it full screen
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I really like the TP one. But of course it's RT that needs it more than desktop...
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and especially the windows 10 start menu is superior over both since it has folders and can still fit as many apps as you want in a smaller space
and you can just have the installed apps list show up next to your pinned apps without having to do extra clicks
12:11
its just convenient
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also the windows 11 start menu is garbage
12:11
its just worse than every single start menu
12:12
it fits less apps than 7, looks ugly, cant turn off the recent section
12:12
its barely configurable at all
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it fits less apps than 7, looks ugly, cant turn off the recent section
You can, with a group policy in 22H2 but that barely counts
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#RadMorning 21/07/2022 12:13
or using ExplorerPatcher
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ImSwordQueen 21/07/2022 12:14
windows 11 doesn't make sense
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the taskbar sucks
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start menu sucks
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#RadMorning
or using ExplorerPatcher
then you wouldnt be able to use sab
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ImSwordQueen 21/07/2022 12:14
the kernel is just the 10 one
12:14
so it sucks
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then you wouldnt be able to use sab
ImSwordQueen 21/07/2022 12:14
you can
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if you remove dxgi.dll from the main windows folder
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if you remove dxgi.dll from the main windows folder
Deformisani SAS 21/07/2022 12:55
it will still break the taskbar
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How did PainteR crack glass8?
i noticed that it calls several win32 crypto apis to verify the licence key
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maybe he faked the right result? but there are also seemingly integrity checks
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it will still break the taskbar
ImSwordQueen 21/07/2022 13:44
thank you captain obvious
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you have to take compromises
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if you want to use sab
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from a functionality standpoint the start screen is just better
yeah
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and people tell me that it sucks and i'm stupid for using it
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maybe he faked the right result? but there are also seemingly integrity checks
Since I wield the Russian language, I'd probably try contact him on the matter. I don't know where, though
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#RadMorning
the glass8 archive doesn't have AeroGlassGUI (edited)
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 21/07/2022 14:18
???
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#RadMorning 21/07/2022 14:32
...whoops
14:32
I thought it would be part of the exe files
14:32
I download the exes, but it wasn't there
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the windows 7 menu has been what i used for so long
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i'm used to that small menu in the corner of the screen
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instead of a giant ass screen with massive tiles
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the massive keywords are i'm used
18:51
and honestly i wouldn't feel as productive with the start screen
18:51
i can live with the pinned/recent apps list on the 7 start menu
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i really don't care about categorization either
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i just want to find the app icon and that's it
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i scroll down and find the folder for it or the icon up top
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look how cluttered it is if i add my apps
and if you need that many pinned apps on the start menu
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uhh
18:55
i guess that's the bottleneck
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in my use case i have never ever had that many icons in the start menu recent/pinned list
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and honestly i wouldn't feel as productive with the start screen
Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 21/07/2022 19:26
ive found the start screen works well for me when ive used it
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start menu usually only comes up when im typing an applocation name into it and pressing enter
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if i just put stuff like my computer in the tiles then it's just as fast as the start menu for me
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#RadMorning 21/07/2022 19:27
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actually imma be honest i fucking hate the start screen and i'm biased towards windows 7
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simple and ez
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start screen is alright
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but it was annoying in 8.0 when there was no start button and it booted to the start screen on startup
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 21/07/2022 21:03
start screen is okay...
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WHEN IT DOESN'T DECIDE TO FREEZE WHILE FREAKING LOADING
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FRIG THAT SOFTLOCK, SERIOUSLY
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IT LASTS SO LONG AND ALL
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and you literally can't. do. crud. about it when it happens, either.
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so you need'a wait for it to unsoftlock.
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something every non-Start-Screen hasn't ever done in Windows.
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huh
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it never softlocked for me
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even on my craptop
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for me neither
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 21/07/2022 21:16
tf
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it did consistently here
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back on 8.0 hardware
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somewhat rarely
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#RadMorning 21/07/2022 21:21
never softlocked for me either
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it softlocked for me once
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and only once
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DeRosenberg 21/07/2022 21:44
So I have a problem with the 2021-12 version
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21:48
I'm downloading the 02 version
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DeRosenberg 21/07/2022 22:27
I did it and installed it but it doesn't show up when I boot it
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Help
22:28
It goes into Windows 7 immediately
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DeRosenberg 21/07/2022 22:46
FFs
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Fine I'll delete the files
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#RadMorning
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Deformisani SAS 21/07/2022 22:52
windows 10?
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or
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DeRosenberg 21/07/2022 23:15
Didn't work again
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What should I do
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DeRosenberg 21/07/2022 23:27
Ok did it
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I used the exe
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DeRosenberg 21/07/2022 23:54
Done
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How do I make my Windows 8 the system one?
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So I don't screw up
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Also I have a win7 pe on my USB btw
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tf is wrong with ur monitor
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are yalls pcs like built from scraps left behind by the horrors of the civil war
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just like mine
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 00:07
Idfk
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DeRosenberg
How do I make my Windows 8 the system one?
Abu Faraj al-Libbi 22/07/2022 00:16
what
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what are you trying to do
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you mean make it into a primary partition?
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 00:17
yeah
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Abu Faraj al-Libbi 22/07/2022 00:17
i know how just dont remember one sec
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go into disk part
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select your disk
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and do cre par pri
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that'll create a new primary partition
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 00:18
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barisberat 22/07/2022 00:18
sel disk 0 first
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Abu Faraj al-Libbi 22/07/2022 00:18
you need to select your disk which should be disk 0 but make sure that's your disk
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 00:18
it is
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oof
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fuck
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Abu Faraj al-Libbi 22/07/2022 00:22
i think you need to create some unallocated space
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id do that and then try the command again
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 00:23
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Should I do it off 7?
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or 8
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Abu Faraj al-Libbi 22/07/2022 00:24
doesn't matter
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id do it on the one ur gonna use less tho
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 00:24
I want to make 8 the only one
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I removed 7 off the system config
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Abu Faraj al-Libbi 22/07/2022 00:24
so u want to delete the 7 partition?
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 00:24
no
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Abu Faraj al-Libbi 22/07/2022 00:25
u want 8 to be the only primary?
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 00:25
yes
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Abu Faraj al-Libbi 22/07/2022 00:27
hm
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let me check something
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alr from the looks of it, it looks like it's impossible to convert an already existing partition to primary without data loss using disk management
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apparently you can find some tools on the internet which might work but I can't verify
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 00:32
I moved my data to the D disk lol
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Abu Faraj al-Libbi 22/07/2022 00:33
alr in that case u can delete the one without the data and do the diskpart thing
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 00:34
I can't since it won't let me do that
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Abu Faraj al-Libbi 22/07/2022 00:36
thats weird
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maybe it could be raid?
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 00:37
idk
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i'm getting nervous
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The post teaches you how to set partition as primary using Diskpart, Disk Management or an overall partition manager in Windows 11, 10, 8, 7.
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Abu Faraj al-Libbi 22/07/2022 00:43
i needa go to bed ill help you when I wake up if nobody else has
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 00:43
ok
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 08:45
No one has helped me lol
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No one has helped me lol
well in the first place why is that partition logical
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that may be a problem
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and anyways why would you need to set it as primary, i can see that the win7 one is primary
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like whats gonna change if you set it as primary
08:47
what are you trying to achieve
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 09:07
I changed from 7 to 8
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And I want to delete the disk and redo it again to erase the win7 data
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format it idfk
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And I want to delete the disk and redo it again to erase the win7 data
so delete the entire drive and start over?
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 09:22
delete it and remake the partition into my files
09:22
yes
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so you wanna delete the win7 partition and keep the 8 one, but cant delete cuz its primary
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 09:24
yeah
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sounds like u just gotta reinstall
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ur win8 is on a logical volume which is extremely cringe anyway
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its gonna make future problems with partitioning
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 09:26
rip
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I don't have a USB, I have a 2GB sd carder that has Windows 7 PE and the 8 ISO of course
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but theres a way to do it non destructively
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boot into that 8 iso
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run diskpart
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delete the win7 partition from there
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mark the win8 partition as active
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reapply the bootloader
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???
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profit
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 09:28
hmmm
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I mean like I said I don't have a USB that's size is not enough to do it
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cant u boot off the sd card?
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my laptop supports booting from sd cards
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it just shows it as a usb hdd
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which sd cards are essentially just quirky flash drives
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 09:32
I only have a 2GB one
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ohh wait
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the win7 pe is on that sd card
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i thought you had both the pe and win8 on it
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ok
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pe should be enough anyway
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win8 is basically win7 in the way it boots
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actually the bootloader thing might not be there already so you may want to steal it from the win8 iso
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 09:34
How do I do that
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open up the iso, go to sources folder and copy bootrec i think
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or bootsect?
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i dont remember
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1 sec
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alright no
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you gotta copy bcdboot
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thats the thing that applies the bootloader
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and then put it on that pe sd card
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 09:40
rip where do I find it
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?
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DeRosenberg
rip where do I find it
it should just be in sources/bcdboot.exe (edited)
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 09:43
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k one sec
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as you can probably tell i am not 100% sure about what im doing
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 09:45
Fuck
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you know what im highly retarded and you can actually find that file in your system32 folder on the installed system
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so just copy it from your win8 install
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and put it somewhere on the win7 pe
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 09:47
lol
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you might not want to use the win7 bcdboot since it could be outdated for 6.2
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 09:49
found it
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aight good
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 09:50
Just wanna make sure I'm not stupid to actually cut it, I wanna copy it
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 09:50
It's not there in the 7PE
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wtf
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hold on
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on the PE it should be located in the system32 directory that it deploys from a wim file or some shit
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just copy it to the root of the flash drive it dont matter
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 09:52
ok did it
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now a quick disclaimer i dont actually know if its gonna work
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but i dont see why it wouldnt
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 09:53
I'm a bit nervous
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at the end of the day no data on your win8 partition should be affected
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 09:53
ok
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hold on
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 10:05
I'm gonna boot into the PE
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 10:39
Okay it's loaded
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It opened up
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What do I do again?
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Okay I copied it
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What now
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did you boot into the pe?
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 10:42
Yes
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do you see a command prompt
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i am assuming you do because pe
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 10:43
Yes
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I opened it
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ok so run diskpart
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and do list disk
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 10:44
Did it
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take a pic and show the output
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 10:44
Disk 0 is the PC, and Disk 1 is the USB I assume
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sel disk 0
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list part (edited)
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 10:45
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skip
list part (edited)
select whichever partition is the win7 one
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 10:46
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yeah so thats what i was talking about
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 10:46
Sel partition 1
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extneded partition is like
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one partition that can hold several logical volumes
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ok
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so select part 1
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and assuming you have nothing important on it, del part
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hold on
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you installed windows on a logical partition?
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he did 💀
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howd you even manage to make an extended partition
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like how do you do that from the windows installer
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 10:54
It's sort of complicated
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I deleted it now
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What should I do
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?
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What should I do
uhh
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use bcdboot
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@DeRosenberg ok so like, do list vol in diskpart
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and see what letter your win8 partition is
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if it doesnt have a letter, assign letter c: or any other letter
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if it does then good
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:03
I'll exit diskpart
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Nowait
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you gotta find out the letter of your win8 partition first
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:04
Volume 1 D Windows 8
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so
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exit diskpart
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:04
Did that
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bcdboot D:\Windows
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are you on bios or uefi
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:05
BIOS
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ok then no extra problems
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just do that
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and it should work
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:05
Failure when attempting to copy boot filles
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uhhhh try rebooting i guess
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the bootloader should still be in place
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wait
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@DeRosenberg we forgot to mark the partition as active
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in diskpart
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thats why it didnt copy
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:13
Oh
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The Windows partition?
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:14
Good you say it because I'm still in cmd
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And diskpart
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sel vol 1
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active (edited)
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i think
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or no
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:14
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try either part 0 or 2
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:15
Wait no
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and active them
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volume might not work
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:15
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yeah not vol
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sel part 0
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active
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:16
It's DVD ROM
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Disk 0 is the dvd rom
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not vol 0
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part 0
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this
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:17
Oh
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try sel part 2 then
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and active
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:18
Same error
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then uhh
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yeah idk
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you may have to reboot
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:19
Well fuck
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I'll try
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Oh reboot and select boot device
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thats bad
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logical partitions are literally evil
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@DeRosenberg so anyways reboot into pe, make a new partition from the unallocated space, copy all of your files to there
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:23
And install windows 8
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you're gonna need to delete the logical partition off the face of earth
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and yeah
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that
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there was something wrong with the partitions as the drive became unbootable just by deleting the win7 partition (edited)
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:25
So I'll winntsetup
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you dont really have a choice
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winntsetup runs from PE doesnt it
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:25
But the problem is that it's an older version so I'll extract the esd file off it
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winntsetup runs from PE doesnt it
DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:25
It has winntsetup so yes it runs
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winntsetup runs from PE doesnt it
#RadMorning 22/07/2022 11:26
I remember running it from HirensBootCD which is based on WinPE
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so yes
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sorry for fucking up your install whyyy
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 11:31
@DeRosenberg what do you need to do?
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like, what do you want to do
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and what were you trying to do earlier
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i tried to help him reapply the bootloader to his logical windows 8 partition
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but welp bcdboot just said NOPE
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 11:32
don't ever use logical partitions
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exactly
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 11:32
best bet - reinstall Windows on a primary partition
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this means you'll have to lose data
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have a backup at least somewhere
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he can copy all of his files from PE
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 11:32
but where does he copy to?
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like make a new partition from the free space after 7
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like make a new partition from the free space after 7
copy all of the files there
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delete the logical partition
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make a new ntfs partition and install 8 there
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 11:33
hmmm sounds like a good system
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also dont you need a system partition for it to work
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he didnt have one
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 11:33
System Reserved?
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yeah that one
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 11:33
you need that for the bootloader
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i always had it on my mbr installs
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 11:33
yeah you definitely need it
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linux usually hooks that partition into grub
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which means it has something to do with booting
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 11:34
WinNTSetup requires that partition in order to be able to install
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you can make it from diskpart iirc
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 11:34
though you can make your own System Reserved
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just a 500MB partition with these things applied
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sorry for fucking up your install whyyy
DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:35
No worries, i have the pe and the iso after all
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do you need help setting up the partitions and stuff rn
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 11:35
I'm here if needed as well
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:35
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Dynamic disk is this normal?
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boi that disk is screwed
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you gotta yknow
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wipe it
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 11:36
don't use dynamic disks either
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:36
I'm afraid the iso will get deleted
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 11:36
best bet - wipe the whole disk
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aka clean it
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do you have any other computers you could copy stuff onto
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 11:36
but then
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:36
What about the iso
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you can do it with network shares
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or smth
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:36
Also no
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 11:37
you don't have a USB stick either?
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look you have a phone
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copy the iso there via usb
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:37
Yeah
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 11:37
that's what I was about to say
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:37
No internet for the PE
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 11:37
while you're in WinPE, copy your stuff
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:37
Hold on
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you dont need internet
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 11:37
yeah, just a USB cable
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should just connect with the default usb drivers
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i hope
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 11:38
iirc Windows does come with MTP drivers
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:38
I have the iso in my phone
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 11:38
I remember using my phone with Vista on my PC (with no additional drivers because Haswell 😭)
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DeRosenberg
I have the iso in my phone
ok thats good
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:39
Connected it and it doesn't detect anything
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 11:39
urgh
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:40
I'm screwed
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why are there 2 partitions
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for win8
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:41
Idk
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 11:41
so many questions
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bru its split across the drive
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:41
I'm scared
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do you really have no usb drives
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 11:42
do you have a friend with a computer
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im feeling so guilty rn
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:42
No and no
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DeRosenberg
No and no
#RadMorning 22/07/2022 11:43
none of your friends have a PC?
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:43
I might buy a USB down my house
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thats the only way
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#RadMorning
none of your friends have a PC?
DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:43
They have but idk how to say it
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theyre not willing to help you ig (edited)
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 11:44
'heyo mate can I borrow your PC because I screwed my PC up and'
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that's not helpful
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theyre not willing to help you ig (edited)
#RadMorning 22/07/2022 11:44
people can be such jerks
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what is the issue?
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 11:46
Cup tried installing Windows 8, skip tried to help
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and things went absolutely nowhere
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he had win8 installed on a logical drive and it very quickly delved into logical partition hell
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bootloader wouldnt apply
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boom
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unbootable
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never use logical drives
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 11:47
1. split across two partitions 2. dynamic disk 3. logical partition
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absolute hell
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:47
Yes
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why are there 2 partitions
thats has something to do with an dynamic disk i believe
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it looks like its splitted but it is not
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he now has to back up his data and wipe his drive but he has no other pcs or usb drive
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so yeah
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in order to merge both and make it basic you need to format the disk entirely
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screwed
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 11:48
or friends that are willing to help
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lodocus
in order to merge both and make it basic you need to format the disk entirely
#RadMorning 22/07/2022 11:48
he knows already
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barisberat 22/07/2022 11:48
Its actually still part of windows 8 (C:) (edited)
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:48
I might buy a USB stick
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barisberat 22/07/2022 11:48
looks like splitted but not
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barisberat
Its actually still part of windows 8 (C:) (edited)
#RadMorning 22/07/2022 11:48
he needs to have it as a primary partition
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no installation media?
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 11:48
but converting it from logical to primary requires wiping
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:48
I have the ISO
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no anything
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only win7 pe sd card
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and an iso on the already fucked up drive
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its bigger than the sd card so no way to copy it either
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:49
And on the phone
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phone doesnt connect to pe
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no mtp driver
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if you can load up to some windows setup hit shift+f10 type in regedit to the cmd and click on import on the top left corner. in there you can browse files and copy/move them to places
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 11:49
such a complicated situation we're in
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or use cmd commands to move stuff around but that a bit advanced
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if you can load up to some windows setup hit shift+f10 type in regedit to the cmd and click on import on the top left corner. in there you can browse files and copy/move them to places
he has an entire pe environment with tools and such
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im sure it has a proper file manager at least
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i would say buy a usb drive and use it with winntsetup
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but converting it from logical to primary requires wiping
my storage disk is stuck like that for a year
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:51
I'll try and get it
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i cant move 500gb data to somewhere else to wipe and fix the disk
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it works fine though
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if only i were more careful
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lodocus
my storage disk is stuck like that for a year
i dont even understand how people get their drives to become logical
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it doesnt boot up right?
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no boot data
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he could try creating a system reserved partition or whatever
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and apply the bootloader using that
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:55
Good news
11:55
My dad allowed me to buy a USB
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coolly
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:55
Bad news, the store won't open until 6 or 5 PM
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make sure it has enough space to fit the data youre hopefully able to back up
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ow
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:55
Yeah
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rn its what, 3pm?
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:55
Almost 2
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even worse
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like ive said after entering a windows setup you can enter regedit from cmd and use the file manager that comes with it
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:56
Hmmm
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you can use a file manager from that pe disk
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im sure theres one
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like total commander or something
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or heck it may have an entire explorer already running
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you can move your important stuff using that and wipe the disk later
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:57
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yep good
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you can just use the windows file manager to copy ur stuff
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this is why i keep a separate partition for every important thing
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i dont keep anything at all on c:
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so the plan is as follows
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so the plan is as follows
buy usb drive, copy iso and important files to usb drive, wipe entire drive using diskpart
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properly partition the drive
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copy all the files back
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use poweriso to make windows 8 installation usb??
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no winntsetup needed
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 11:59
b
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he has no other disk/partition?
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even better
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are you /srs or /j
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kidding of course
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i guess he can only use his usb to save his stuff
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i was thinking he could just move the stuff to other partitions
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thats why ive recommended windows setup trick
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 12:30
Honestly I'll use winntsetup for the installation and the usb for restoring files
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Copying files
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you still gotta copy the iso to the usb
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 12:30
Hmmm
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Yeah that
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Then put the ISO back into the new volume disk
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 16:25
Just got the USB
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16GB
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HIKVISION M200
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2.0
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Copying the files
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 16:49
I copied it, now what should I do again
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Delete it from the computer management
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Or the disk part
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?
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Nvm
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 17:35
So the winntsetup said that the device is not ready on bootfiles but it kept doing it
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It kept continuing the process
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Bulid mutil boot files
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 17:45
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Yep
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Select proper boot device
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Hold on I have an idea
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 17:50
What have you done so far?
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from the moment you got the USB stick
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 17:51
Copied the files
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Use the esd from the iso
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So the winntsetup said that the device is not ready on bootfiles but it kept doing it
DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 17:51
This here
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Restarted it
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And it has the boot device error
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 17:52
What drive did you image the ESD to?
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Your hard drive or?
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 17:52
My USB
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 17:52
You tried to install Windows onto the USB?
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 17:52
No
17:52
I used the ESD from the usb
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To try and install it on my drive
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C
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thats not how u do it
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 17:53
Did you clean the drive beforehand?
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we told you to copy the iso to the usb
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 17:53
I did
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and use winntsetup
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to install it
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#RadMorning
Did you clean the drive beforehand?
DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 17:53
Yes
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Winntsetup is based on an older version and that is version 3
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 17:54
I don't think that should present a problem
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did you make the USB a Windows installation USB?
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so you could have WinPE?
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did you make the USB a Windows installation USB?
DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 17:55
No
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The 2GB is the PE
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 17:56
so you do have a bootable environment now?
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 17:56
Wdym
17:56
No
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 17:56
do you have any sort of OS to boot into now
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 17:56
No
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I might use poweriso to install windows 8 (edited)
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poweriso
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 17:57
you said you wiped the drive
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lol
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 17:57
shush
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did you make the System Reserved partition after that?
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 17:57
No idk
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 17:57
because that's what Win8 boots from
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hold on, if you wiped the drive
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did you create any partition afterwards?
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 17:58
Guys for fuck's sake I backed the files to my USB
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And yes i did
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 17:58
so you didn't leave it at Unallocated
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Guys for fuck's sake I backed the files to my USB
?, didnt say anything about losing your data
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what did you create it with
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windows setup?
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 17:58
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what did you create it with
DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 17:59
The setup or my files
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I used Winntsetup
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 17:59
what did you create the partition with
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 17:59
Computer management
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i see winpe
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okay
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so
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you dont have install media on hand rn?
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why dont you just do this
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 17:59
I get the feeling the photo is from earlier
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extract win8 iso and install it using the winpe
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?
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:00
I'm very confused
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its not the same disk
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im guessing its a 2gb flash or something?
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 18:00
That's the PE
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okay so look
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:01
Can you boot to WinPE from the USB?
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 18:01
The pe that I'm running win7
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#RadMorning
Can you boot to WinPE from the USB?
DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 18:01
Yeah
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do you have a windows setup usb
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:01
oh okay
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ready to go
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:01
he didn't make it
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 18:01
Why can't I just use Poweriso or something to run the exe
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you can
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look
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just run the setup
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on winpe
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install it on disk 0
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and thats it
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 18:02
Ok hold on
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no need for all this confusion
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oofer_dww
no need for all this confusion
#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:02
confusion = WinNTSetup
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#RadMorning
because that's what Win8 boots from
ImSwordQueen 22/07/2022 18:02
this isn't necessary. it needs to be a boot partition
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 18:03
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ImSwordQueen
this isn't necessary. it needs to be a boot partition
#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:03
?
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ImSwordQueen 22/07/2022 18:03
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the partition needs to satisfy these 3 to make windows boot
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:03
I was talking about System Reserved
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that's where the bootloader is
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it is necessary
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ImSwordQueen 22/07/2022 18:04
yeah system reserved isn't needed most of the times
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:04
so you could have the bootloader on the main partition itself?
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ImSwordQueen 22/07/2022 18:04
yeah
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:04
and just set it as a boot partition
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 18:04
I'll use the imdisk option
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:05
yeah, mount it
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ImSwordQueen 22/07/2022 18:05
windows makes the partition in case you are a moron and breaks your install often
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so you can go into recovery still
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but it's not necessary for windows to boot
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 18:05
Did that
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:05
I suppose... do what oofer said
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 18:05
I'll open the setup.exe
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:05
launch setup.exe
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ImSwordQueen
but it's not necessary for windows to boot
ImSwordQueen 22/07/2022 18:06
that's also the case with vista
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it doesn't have a system reserved partition
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:06
okay, got it
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 18:07
Doesn't open
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:07
I had doubts it would open
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 18:07
When I click on the cd it doesn't open to the window
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Hold on
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Maybe I should move the iso to the disk
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:08
@oofer_dww how did you imagine this
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whats going on
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:11
Cup has the USB
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he has WinPE up
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he has the Win8 ISO
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he cleaned his drive and made a primary partition
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all that is left to do is... install Win8
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he tried through WinNTSetup
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but he:
  • didn't make the System Reserved partition
  • didn't set the primary partition as bootable
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and now?
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:12
oofer suggested another method
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mounting the iso and running setup.exe
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:12
basically - just open setup within WinPE
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which doesnt run?
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:12
exactly
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how about...
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now that the partitions work
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copy all the files back
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and use poweriso to make a win8 install usb (edited)
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:13
WinPE is on the USB
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but he can transfer it back to his PC
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 18:13
Nevermind
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It opened
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:13
really?
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ImSwordQueen 22/07/2022 18:13
or go thru the mess of
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#RadMorning
WinPE is on the USB
didnt he have an sd card?
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 18:13
Install now
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Yes
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ImSwordQueen 22/07/2022 18:13
make the partitions with a 3rd party tool
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didnt he have an sd card?
DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 18:14
Look dude
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I bought a 16gb USB okay
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ImSwordQueen
make the partitions with a 3rd party tool
#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:14
he can do it through diskmgmt
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 18:14
I copied the files
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ImSwordQueen 22/07/2022 18:14
i mean it would be easier by doing it on a 3rd party tool but diskmgmt can work
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:14
why have a third party thing when a first party thing exists already
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anyhow
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DeRosenberg
Install now
#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:15
did you click it
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i dont get it how did he just move his entire pe to the usb
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from the sd card
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ImSwordQueen 22/07/2022 18:15
i mean it makes shit easier
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:15
it's not that difficult with diskmgmt
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we would help him step by step
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ImSwordQueen 22/07/2022 18:15
not until diskmgmt doesn't work for some reason
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:15
but it has worked all this time
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#RadMorning
but it has worked all this time
Failed to set partition as active
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#RadMorning
did you click it
DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 18:16
Yes
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skip
Failed to set partition as active
#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:16
nevermind!
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i dont get it how did he just move his entire pe to the usb
DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 18:16
No I copied my files
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The games the stuff I have
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DeRosenberg
Yes
#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:16
are you getting somewhere (edited)
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 18:17
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umm why is there unallocated space
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:17
it's literally 0.0MB
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i suggest you delete all those partitions and make just one
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it may confuse the installer
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 18:18
Can't
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Ok
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:18
it has already confused the installer
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 18:18
I get it
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Again same error
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God fucking damn it
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:19
I have an idea that may work
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I remember having this error
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so
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clean the whole drive with diskpart
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yeah uh
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you dont open setup.exe
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you open sources\setup.exe
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i forgot to tell you about that
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:19
where were you the whole time
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okay
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buying groceries
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sorry
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:19
let's try that before trying something else
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@DeRosenberg
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get out of setup
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 18:20
Yes
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oofer_dww
you open sources\setup.exe
#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:20
and open setup from here
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 18:20
Ok
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Did it
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win8 has the different setup.exe on root which doesnt work under winpe
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DeRosenberg
Did it
did it run?
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DeRosenberg
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Deformisani SAS 22/07/2022 18:20
wtf is with ur monitor?
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:21
wow damaged monitor
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does it matter much
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Deformisani SAS 22/07/2022 18:21
i just wanna know how did he damage it
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:21
not the time for that
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 18:21
Don't ask
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I don't know and I'm getting tired of being asked this question
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:22
okay
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what about the setup
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has something happened
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 18:22
Setup is starting
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:24
has it started
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 18:24
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:24
mmm okay
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 18:24
No bot that
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:24
okay, well it isn't okay
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 18:24
Same error
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Fuck I'm nervous god-damn it
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:25
wait wait wait
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open diskpart
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select disk 0
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clean
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cre par pri
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for fs=ntfs quick
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Deformisani SAS 22/07/2022 18:26
wait
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assign letter C
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Deformisani SAS 22/07/2022 18:26
which os does he have?
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and go again
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Deformisani SAS 22/07/2022 18:26
and why is it giving him trouble?
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Deformisani SAS
which os does he have?
its winpe right now
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Deformisani SAS
which os does he have?
#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:26
none
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Deformisani SAS 22/07/2022 18:26
huh
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 18:27
Did it
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I'm gonna go to the gym
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But I really need to install Windows fast
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ok so run setup again
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hopefully it will show up right this time
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:29
@DeRosenberg have you opened setup
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 18:29
Yes I did
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:29
'Setup is starting'?
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 18:30
Same error
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Fuck ke fuck me fuck me fuck me
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Oh man man what do I fo
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:30
I have a suggestion
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 18:30
I'm stressef out
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Fucking didis
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:30
but I hope I don't get interrupted
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dont think diskpart in your winpe is functioning properly
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 18:30
It finished and stuff
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It was completely fine
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do you think you could do something like mount the iso
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 18:30
I did
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:30
the idea is
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mount the ISO
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no i mean mount and boot
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from it
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you can use something like easybcd to do it
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:31
wait!
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 18:31
Oh
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:31
wait
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my idea was: make a 5GB partition - mount the ISO within WinPE - copy the contents from the ISO to the partition using xcopy - make it bootable
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and install Windows that way
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so the setup boots directly from the drive
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welp
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okay
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:32
@DeRosenberg I can guide you
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you here?
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 18:33
I'm getting pressured by my dad to go to gyk
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So i'll do it later
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:33
...tell your dad it can wait
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 18:34
He told me to do it later so I could it whenever I want later
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I can't
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Sorry
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Bye
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 18:34
._.
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bye
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@DeRosenberg btw ping me when you're back
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 19:54
@#RadMorning
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 19:55
okay
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are you in WinPE?
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 19:55
Wdym
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 19:56
okay so
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open diskpart
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 19:56
Opened it
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 19:57
type 'list disk'
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 19:57
Did it
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 19:57
what disk is your main drive
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what number
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 19:57
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Disk 0
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 19:57
okay
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type 'select disk 0'
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 19:57
Did it
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 19:58
now type 'clean' to clean the whole disk
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 19:58
Cleaned it
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Succeed in cleaning the disk
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 19:58
type 'create partition primary size=5000' to make a 5GB partition
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 19:59
Did that
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 19:59
was it created successfully?
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 19:59
Yes
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 19:59
now type 'format fs=ntfs quick' to format the partition
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 19:59
Wait
20:00
20:00
Welp
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:00
did it format?
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:01
Should I do that
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:01
yes
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#RadMorning
now type 'format fs=ntfs quick' to format the partition
#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:01
^
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:01
Did it
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:01
was it successful?
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:01
Yes
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:02
now type 'assign' to assign a drive letter
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:02
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:02
yeah, looks good
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:02
Did it as c
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But I think I should do it as D
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:02
it doesn't matter much
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:02
Hold on
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Made it G
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Now what
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:03
alright
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now type 'active' to make that the active partition
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:03
Active
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:03
did everything go correctly?
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:03
Yeh
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:04
okay
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now mount your Win8 ISO
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:04
How do I do that
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:04
using the 'Mount as ImDisk Virtual Disk'
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you did that at one point
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right click on ISO > that option
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:05
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I should do it as G
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:05
that's alright
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:06
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DeRosenberg
I should do it as G
DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:06
It's not here
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Fuck
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:06
did you mount it properly
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wait, you made your main partition G
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mount the ISO as a different letter
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literally any other letter
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other than F and G
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:07
Rip
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:07
can you mount it
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:07
I can
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Hold on
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:08
okay
20:08
can you see your G: partition
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:09
Yes
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:09
okay
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now open Command Prompt as Administrator
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Start menu > search for 'cmd' > right click on cmd > Run as Administrator
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:10
Yes
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I already had it opened
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:10
okay
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now type 'xcopy h: g:/e/h/k' to copy the contents of the Windows 8 ISO to that 5GB partition
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did the command work?
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:12
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:12
okay
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it's good
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alert me when it's done
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:14
Aight
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Done
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@#RadMorning
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:15
okay
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now take out both your SD card and USB stick
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and reboot your PC
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:16
What's that gonna do
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I'm scared
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:16
taking out your removable devices will prevent you from screwing up the disk formatting process in Windows Setup
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just in case measure
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:17
Ok I'll try
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:17
Hopefully, when you reboot, you should be in the Windows Setup
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:17
Removed them
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:17
Time for the reboot
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:17
Rebooting rn
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Oh
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It's loading
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Yay
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:18
👍
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'Setup is starting'?
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:19
Purple screen
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:19
has it moved from the purple screen?
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:20
No not yet
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Oh wait
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It loaded
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:21
okay
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tell me when you're at the disk selection screen
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:21
Setup is starting
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:21
ah
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has it loaded?
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:23
Setup is starting
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:23
okay, wait patiently
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:26
License terms section
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:26
okay
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:26
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:26
Custom install
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pick that
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:27
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:27
you've picked the right partition
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proceed
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:28
Oh
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Ok
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:28
has it transitioned to the installation?
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did you get to the screen with 'Copying Windows files - Extracting files etc.'
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:29
Yes
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:29
it's good then!
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:31
19%
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:31
👍
20:34
what's the status now?
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:34
76
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:34
okay
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:37
Updates
20:37
Finishing up
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Restart now
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:37
👍
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:38
Windows starting
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:39
has it started?
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:40
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:40
wait patiently... yet again
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:42
Getting ready
20:42
After the installation what should I do with the 5GB disk
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Should I use common sense and keep it incase something is wrong?
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:42
yeah, that's what I would do
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:42
Ok good
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:43
but if you want the 5GB back, you can try and remove the partition, then extend the main partition
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:43
It has dualboot so this should be good
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#RadMorning
but if you want the 5GB back, you can try and remove the partition, then extend the main partition
DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:43
I would keep it
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:43
okay
20:44
btw did you get the screen where you choose between 'Windows Setup' and 'Windows 8'?
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:44
Da
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:44
okay 👍
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:44
That's why it's good
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Done
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Hi
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While we're getting things ready
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:46
yeah it's the tutorial
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that you probably don't care about
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but that you have to watch
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ImSwordQueen 22/07/2022 20:47
if your pc is fast enough you can bypass it with ctrl+alt+del
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:47
Done
20:47
Thanks
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For everything
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:47
no problem!
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btw
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you can now connect your phone to your PC
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:48
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:48
and turn on 'USB tethering' to get internet access via your phone
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DeRosenberg
Click to see attachment 🖼️
#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:48
alrighty!
20:48
you can now plug in your USB stick and SD card
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:48
20:48
Is this good?
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#RadMorning
and turn on 'USB tethering' to get internet access via your phone
DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:48
I have a WIFI USB
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So this should be good
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DeRosenberg
I have a WIFI USB
#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:48
said that in case you need to get drivers for it
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DeRosenberg
Is this good?
#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:49
looks fine
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:49
I have it
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:49
even better then
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:49
I'm copying my files
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:49
great
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 20:49
I said copy not cut because backup
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 20:49
makes sense
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enjoy your new installation I suppose
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 21:08
Thanks and hey bro, thanks for the help I appreciate it
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Two questions
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Should I use Windows Update? How do I activate Windows? (edited)
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 21:10
1. Yeah, use WU
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2. A way I found is to use MAS - Microsoft Activation Scripts
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and the Online KMS option (with automatic renewal)
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though someone probably has a better way of activating it
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but that's the way I went with and it works just fine
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completely free
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free of viruses and free of charge
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MAS 1.5 Changelog: Click to expand All Support added for Windows build 22483 and later (No wmic.exe issue) Support added for ARM64 architecture in all the scripts Made sure script run fine where p...
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 21:12
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just change the kms server lmfao
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 21:13
Is updating Windows Update with me activating windows would cause issues
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DeRosenberg
Is updating Windows Update with me activating windows would cause issues
#RadMorning 22/07/2022 21:13
nope
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 21:14
Oh ok
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ok I'm on PC
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With discord
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oofer probably mentioned the best way
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 21:15
Go ahead
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 21:15
but he wasn't helpful... at all
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press '3' for Online KMS
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press 'I' for the activation renewal every 180 days
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then press '1' to activate Windows
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 21:17
Ok I'll remember that
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thanks for the info btw
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 21:18
np
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also, why did you want to reinstall Win8?
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you were on 7 before from what I saw
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all you need is to google search a kms server for win8 slmgr -ipk THE-KEY-THEY-PROVIDED slmgr -skms KMS-SERVER-ADDRESS slmgr -ato and i believe it renews the activation every 30 days at least its been doing that on my end to check how many days your activation has left, run slmgr -dlv and it will give you day count, if its close to expiring, renew it with slmgr -ato https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/740945838607564930/1000026742431428688/unknown.png (edited)
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also, why did you want to reinstall Win8?
DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 21:22
I installed it, but my stupidness broke the PC so the person who repaired it made it Win7
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 21:22
okay
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I'm guessing Win8 runs the best on your PC
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BTW thanks @oofer_dww for the explanation
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i had a hell of a time when i first installed 7 on my 9th gen board
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mainly because the thing was uefi and i had to use fat32, iso over 4gb
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i had to write winpe bootdisk and all that
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its a simple trick really but, if the thing is UEFI
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and your iso is over 4gb
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with no large fat32
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 21:25
win7 was so slow
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write a winpe made with ADK
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DeRosenberg 22/07/2022 21:25
And no
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I didn't install any updates
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#RadMorning 22/07/2022 21:25
I was about to guess it was updates that made it slow
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write that onto USB, boot it(DO NOT SHUT IT DOWN), then reflash the usb with the iso on NTFS and run setup from it on winpe
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if you have absolutely no choice, this is only a last resort solution
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This tool claims to remove the glass8 watermark, looks fishy though... even Painter advises to not use it
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This tool claims to remove the glass8 watermark, looks fishy though... even Painter advises to not use it
try it
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trol
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when even PainteR says "don't use that" you know it's sus (edited)
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Thank god for VM's
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i assume you're on 9789 ?
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no
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9879
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i made my own left titlebar patch for 9879 a while back
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lost it though
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ah you made yours too
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lol
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With symbols every american dream is possible
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Vruh 2
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Cool cool. I fucking hate the watermark though
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Seemingly Painter intentionally skipped experimental versions
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i might still have 9879 on my hdd
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Did you get transparent taskbar with the aerolite hack?
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no i used the cli aero tool
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Vruh 2
i might still have 9879 on my hdd
I installed it to attempt to fix the VMware shutdown/restart bug
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Vruh 2
no i used the cli aero tool
Mind linking that?
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it's in the aero8 site
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i don't think i have it
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It's gone, reduced to atoms.
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archive.org?
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I think someone made a backup though
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Vruh 2
archive.org?
Oh yeah, archive.org exists 😂
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my limited asm knowledge from months ago is reduced
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to atoms
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in the meanwhile
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do you finally have time
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I learned some, but suddenly I am now very busy with applying to universities
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But yes, I do have some time
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finally i guess
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lol
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I decided to torture myself with learning proper debugging
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i wish i could write an autopatcher for udwm for text alignment
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but it varies too much
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It shouldn't be hard for a fair range. One can write it like BigMuscle's glass8 hook
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Use symbols to locate the function and mov rax, 0 it
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i was thinking bytepatch udwm but i guess
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that is more convenient
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Yeah, just meant the symbol thing
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i'm really curious what changed between 7850 and 7875
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that made the captions smaller
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This tool claims to remove the glass8 watermark, looks fishy though... even Painter advises to not use it
can you test it ?
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Vruh 2
i'm really curious what changed between 7850 and 7875
And I'm curious to compare the 9909 uDWM to 9926 one
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Vruh 2
can you test it ?
Sure
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I'll have to disable ACPI in the guest tho, lol
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A potential bomb on my screen
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Yeah, seeing no effect at all
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I'll assume it doesn't support 1.3.1
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 12:09
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Deformisani SAS 24/07/2022 12:09
java required
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dot net framework 4.5 also required
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and visual c++ redistrubutable 2013 required
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 12:33
I have the wallpaper bug in Windows 8
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What should I do
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ImSwordQueen 24/07/2022 12:34
^ cry
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and delete all kb5xxx updates
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 12:34
How do I do that without damanging the system
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ImSwordQueen 24/07/2022 12:34
control panel
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uninstall updates
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 12:37
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ImSwordQueen 24/07/2022 12:37
just don't search
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search is just a mess
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btw yeah. that's the update @DeRosenberg
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you downloaded the broken iso by mistake
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 12:39
probably
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ImSwordQueen 24/07/2022 12:39
you are better off
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reinstalling the whole thing
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and use the 2021-12 iso
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 12:39
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ImSwordQueen 24/07/2022 12:40
because the 2021-03 iso has broken net 4.8
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which breaks some net 4.8 programs
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 12:40
oh
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ImSwordQueen 24/07/2022 12:40
or if you want to be safe 2021-02 v2
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literally the second pin
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2021-12 is safe too
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no 2021-03 and 2021-04
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aka the wallpaper bug updates from 2021
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ImSwordQueen 24/07/2022 12:40
let me unpin the 2021-03 link
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so nobody would use it
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gotta update the forum
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ImSwordQueen 24/07/2022 12:41
that too
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 12:41
downloading the 12 iso
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Btw what should I do with this drive that has the 02 ISO
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 12:42
mount the 2021-12 ISO
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ImSwordQueen 24/07/2022 12:42
replace the 02 iso with the 12 one
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 12:43
do the xcopy thing
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ImSwordQueen 24/07/2022 12:43
i mean
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why not just using explorer
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he is in windows after all
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 12:43
hmm
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if you say so
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you can also just select all and copy to the 5GB partition
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ImSwordQueen 24/07/2022 12:44
got real
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#RadMorning
do the xcopy thing
DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 12:46
So I delete the Windows 8 02 files via explorer on the disk and put the 12 one via xcopy? (edited)
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 12:46
you don't have to use xcopy
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ImSwordQueen 24/07/2022 12:46
use explorer for everything
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 12:46
just delete the old files and copy the new files using Explorer
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The title is self explainatory, it's a Windows 8.0 iso with updates up to 2021-03, but it doesn't include just updates, lolno. Misc things included: .NET 4.8 (y
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finally got around to it
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and i already fucked up
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forgor to change a 2021-03 reference
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fixed now
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just delete the old files and copy the new files using Explorer
DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 12:48
oh ok
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Hopefully I don't fuck up
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ImSwordQueen 24/07/2022 12:48
you forgot a thing scamdisk
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2022 updates are all bad
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or almost all bad
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 12:49
Also I should add like 10 GB space more because the 12 iso is larger in size
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should be fixed now
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 12:49
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Also I should add like 10 GB space more because the 12 iso is larger in size
#RadMorning 24/07/2022 12:49
how big is the ISO
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 12:49
5.8 GB
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yeah i tried compressing it as much as possible
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didnt go as planned
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esd still ended up been 5gb
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ImSwordQueen 24/07/2022 12:50
actually
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fuck winsxs
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ImSwordQueen 24/07/2022 12:50
you can use NTLite
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delete the other skus
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and keep only professional
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or core or ProWMC
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 12:50
Can't extend it
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fuck
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conversion to wim has to be done first
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Can't extend it
#RadMorning 24/07/2022 12:51
you know what
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try doing the normal procedure first
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you have a USB stick now
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or do a direct upgrade
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 12:51
I wouldn't bother with upgrades
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just in case something breaks
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for some reason
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a inplace upgrade could work
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but yeah you're right
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ImSwordQueen 24/07/2022 12:51
upgrades to the same sku and same OS would be a mess tbf
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#RadMorning
you have a USB stick now
DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 12:51
True
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I'll use rufus
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 12:52
yup
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i forgot i made it so it's always old setup
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 12:52
I'll probably keep the windows disk
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or idk
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instead of mosetup
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I'll probably keep the windows disk
#RadMorning 24/07/2022 12:52
you can delete it
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 12:52
how
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ImSwordQueen 24/07/2022 12:53
i love how 8 colors are always fucked with glass8
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 12:53
you may not be able to delete it actually
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usually you can right click on the volume in diskmgmt and 'Delete Volume'
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but since it's the first partition on your disk
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yeah...
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i nuked mosetup
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ImSwordQueen 24/07/2022 12:54
the taskbar is a little piece of shit
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 12:56
Fuck my wifi adapter
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Deformisani SAS 24/07/2022 12:56
no
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 12:56
it disconnected suddenly meaning the ISO stopped downloading
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and it even said that I can't continue it because it's forbidden
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 12:56
._.
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 12:56
I'll use my phone instead
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#RadMorning
usually you can right click on the volume in diskmgmt and 'Delete Volume'
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Can't
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 12:57
yeah
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because it's the first volume on the disk
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 12:57
ye
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Should I delete the letter off the disk
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Or it doesn't matter
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:01
that wouldn't be of much use
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:01
hmm
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what should I do
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I said no
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:03
what are you trying to do even
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:03
Remove the letter
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:03
why
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:04
idk, put it back to where it was
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:04
when you reinstall Windows
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you're gonna be cleaning the whole disk anyway
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how much stuff have you got backed up on the USB stick BTW
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how much space does it take up
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:05
6GB or whatever
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DeRosenberg
it disconnected suddenly meaning the ISO stopped downloading
use a download manager
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ImSwordQueen 24/07/2022 13:06
google drive
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<insert forbidden emoji>
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ImSwordQueen 24/07/2022 13:06
even if jdownloader supports google drive links somehow
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DeRosenberg
Fuck my wifi adapter
use Ethernet
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DeRosenberg
6GB or whatever
#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:07
6GB + 5.8GB for the ISO = 11.8GB
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RaduTek
use Ethernet
#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:07
there must be a reason he's using a Wi-Fi adapter and not Ethernet
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like when you need to download a large file just move your laptop close to the router and plug it in
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:08
.
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I use a PC
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desktop
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then you should have no excuse for not connecting it via wired
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:08
It's far away
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Plus it's on a wall
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impossible
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never impossible
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:09
'buy a very long cable'
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easy!1
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really it's easy
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I got a 10 meter cable for like $5 and it does gigabit just fine (edited)
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:09
It's easy for you but it's not easy for me
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Simple
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well there's always a solution to run the wire (edited)
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RaduTek
I got a 10 meter cable for like $5 and it does gigabit just fine (edited)
i use a 10 meter cable myself to connect my pc to my router (in my home in ukraine obviously)
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:10
ukrainaiaa
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here in the netherlands we don't even get an ethernet port (edited)
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and have shitty wifi (edited)
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RaduTek
well there's always a solution to run the wire (edited)
DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:10
well yeah, but I'm already downloading it on my phone so no need
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DeRosenberg
well yeah, but I'm already downloading it on my phone so no need
#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:10
he's about to kill you
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as if he hasn't killed you already
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would rather go back to ukraine than suffer through all shit i have to go through here
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:11
rip
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reminds me of when I downloaded some ROMs on my phone via 4G
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RayZen
would rather go back to ukraine than suffer through all shit i have to go through here
DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:11
What's wrong
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(no ethernet at all, shitty wifi)
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DeRosenberg
What's wrong
food sucks, internet sucks, living here in general sucks
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:11
damn
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RayZen
food sucks, internet sucks, living here in general sucks
you can't even cook food yourself
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because ukrainians are too dumb to cook apparently (edited)
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RayZen
you can't even cook food yourself
ouuch
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even in greece in my hotel room we had a stove to cook
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:12
@DeRosenberg how big is your USB stick (I know it's 16GB, but how much does Windows show)
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RayZen
because ukrainians are too dumb to cook apparently (edited)
and you get shitty food that is either entirely tasteless or too spicy to even be good for your health
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:12
14.6
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:12
good
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Deformisani SAS 24/07/2022 13:13
windows shows my usb as 14.8
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:13
same
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RayZen
and you get shitty food that is either entirely tasteless or too spicy to even be good for your health
and people ask why i want to return to ukraine
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there's no point to be here in the first place
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:13
Copying them
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USB 2 or USB 3?
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:13
2
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Deformisani SAS 24/07/2022 13:13
my usb is 2.0
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:13
same here (edited)
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I have USB 3.0 drives but really why I got them is their minimum viable write speed
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RayZen
there's no point to be here in the first place
i should just return back to ukraine, it's not like i live in a place that is affected by the war
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RaduTek
I have USB 3.0 drives but really why I got them is their minimum viable write speed
USB 2.0 drives are just too slow in term of write speed
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RayZen
there's no point to be here in the first place
DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:14
At least you're out of Ukraine for your safety but I can understand your feeling about where you live
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RaduTek
USB 2.0 drives are just too slow in term of write speed
can take up to half an hour to write a fucking ISO
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RaduTek
USB 2.0 drives are just too slow in term of write speed
#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:14
I suffer with USB 2.0, but at least it works
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meanwhile my USB 3.0 drive is ready in 5-10 mins (which I also find a bit slow) (edited)
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:14
though I have 3.0 ports on my laptop
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At least you're out of Ukraine for your safety but I can understand your feeling about where you live
what kind of safety
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:15
I haven't got any USB 3.0 drives
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I should use a USB HDD really
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:15
I used to have a 1TB USB HDD
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but it broke :(
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cause even a 5200 RPM drive is faster than USB flash drives
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RayZen
what kind of safety
DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:15
About the war
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RayZen
what kind of safety
as i said again there were no attacks in my town and it's the 5th month of the invasion of already
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:15
it was also a USB 3.0 drive
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I have a 160 GB drive from my Eee PC that I have no use for
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:15
the drive itself may be fine
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but the circuitry used for the Mini USB port is broken
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is it embedded on the HDD board?
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or a separate interface board
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:16
I don't know as I haven't tried opening the HDD just yet
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:16
Question
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open it, it may be separate so then you can just use the HDD as a SATA drive
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:16
if it's a normal SATA to Mini USB converter board
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then I can perhaps rescue the drive
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then I can perhaps rescue the drive
you can, no perhaps (edited)
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if it's all on the HDD board then it's gone
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:17
I should use the phone to copy my files (not the ISO) from the USB
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oops
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:17
the thing is... I have no idea how to open it
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it looks sealed shut
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send a picture
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also would help if you put a ruler along the longer side
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cause you can tell if it has an interface board inside by the length
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:17
it's not Mini USB, I'm dumb
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it's Micro USB with an extension for 3.0
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photo coming soon
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look here ^
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if the USB interface is on the HDD board, then it won't be much longer than the bare drive (edited)
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:20
hmm
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nope
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it probably doesn't have such a board
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especially since it's a Seagate
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they and WD do the USB controller on the HDD board
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because then you can't purchase an external HDD to get the SATA drive cheaper
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they do a similar trick for 3.5" external HDDs
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where a pin on the SATA power cable is used to detect if the HDD's connected to a PC power supply
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and if it detects 3.3V on the pin (which is normal per SATA standard) it won't turn on (edited)
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fix is easy, just put a piece of tape over the pin
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:23
Drive was bought in February 2021, it died in June 2021
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don't you have warranty on it
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cause then you can get a new drive (edited)
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:24
we tried using the warranty
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but nothing came out of it
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doesn't Serbia have some laws against this bullshit
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Deformisani SAS 24/07/2022 13:24
Idk
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:24
we have many good laws that nobody respects
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I know here in Romania you can get a refund of the price you paid for the product if they can't fix it or send you a replacement
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and I have seen it in practice
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when my mouse broke (due to me dropping it but shhh it had no external damage) and they couldn't fix it they gave me two options: get a new replacement or a refund (edited)
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it was a minor defect, the wheel would sometimes miss a step or do 2 steps
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Drive was bought in February 2021, it died in June 2021
i had a similar experience, bought 3x WD 2tb usb hdd, and 2 of the 3 died in the first month
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i still need to rma them just havent got around to it
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i have 3 year warranty
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:26
the drive broke a little after I had put a big workload on it (pulled an all-nighter and the drive was being written to the whole time)
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meanwhile my seagate that is 5 years old and has been dropped a million times still works great
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:27
because the project was on the HDD
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and I was working on it
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I have a 4 TB WD usb drive Been running just fine for 8 months
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powered on 24/7 as a shared drive
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but set up to spin down after like half an hour
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which is how these drives are designed to work
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i use mine for my game consoles so 4tb is too much
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2tb is the max i can use on a fat32 partition
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so i just use multiple 2tb if i need more than that
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I barely have 550 GB used
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I barely have 550 GB used
i could easily use 10tb on games & dlc for a single console
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i am an unashamed pirate
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could've gotten 2 TB drives and set them up in a mirrorred config to get backup
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but it would've been slightly more expensive
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:30
pretty much the only storage I have: USB stick - 16GB 250-256GB drive in my laptop 64GB storage in my phone
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#RadMorning
pretty much the only storage I have: USB stick - 16GB 250-256GB drive in my laptop 64GB storage in my phone
mac pro: 250gb nvme (macos boot), 2x 500gb hdd (macos storage jbod), 500gb sata ssd (windows 7 boot), 4tb hdd (windows storage)
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server - 32gb sata ssd (boot), 5x 2tb hdd (storage)
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laptop - 2tb nvme
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:31
that's a lot of storage
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that you probably use very well
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#RadMorning
that you probably use very well
most of the space on the server is just for movies/tv/anime lol
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my actual data is much less
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:32
you don't like streaming? I can understand
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#RadMorning
you don't like streaming? I can understand
no i run my own streaming server with jellyfin
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that way i can get it in good quality from within my own home to any device
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i have some friends who have accounts on my jellyfin & cloud servers too
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so they use a bit of space as well
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most of my storage is used for software
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next is videos
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then music (my downloaded library & torrents) (edited)
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and last photos
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:34
I forgot
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15GB Google Drive
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RaduTek
most of my storage is used for software
i had a lot more data before but i lost it when the hdd in my old server died
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i need to rebuild my software hoarding collection
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ive been working on rebuilding it
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:34
I could probably only invest in Google Drive space
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luckily all my photos were on google photos
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:35
as 100GB storage isn't very expensive
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but I don't need it atm
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thank god for free unlimited google photos space
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#RadMorning
I could probably only invest in Google Drive space
google drive sucks because its rate limited
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if you want to use it as an actual NAS its useless
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same with mega
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Michael
thank god for free unlimited google photos space
but it's gone now (unless you have a Pixel)
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RaduTek
but it's gone now (unless you have a Pixel)
i have pixel 2xl and pixel 1xl
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detected as pixel 5 in rom
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:35
yeah, yesterday I backed up my photos and videos to GPhotos
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lucky you
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the pixel 1xl will probably end up being my mom's because i dont use it anymore
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:35
and it complained about too much storage used
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both are 128gb factory unlocked
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lucky you
i didnt pay much for them
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i got the pixel 1xl in early 2019 and back then it was like $110, and the 2xl i got about half a year ago and it was $70 (edited)
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for 128gb factory unlocked in good condition
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:36
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well I:
  • wanted a brand new phone (not used)
  • happy with Samsung's One UI
  • Pixels are pretty expensive here
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im not a big brand new phone guy
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I wanted to get a Pixel 4A, but Samsung's offering was much better
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they are too expensive unless you contract through the carrier, but then you have to pay every month and u cant root it due to bootloader locking
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:37
I get a new phone every two years through my carrier
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RaduTek
I wanted to get a Pixel 4A, but Samsung's offering was much better
and now that I have Galaxy Buds and a Galaxy Watch I can't leave that easy
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:37
their phones are always unlocked it seems
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i would much rather an older phone thats cheap and already has well developed custom roms and mods
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#RadMorning
their phones are always unlocked it seems
same for Romania, they don't lock phones anymore
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:38
yeah
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mostly because all are dual SIM
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except iPhones
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:38
exactly
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same for Romania, they don't lock phones anymore
murica will never stop locking phones
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that is our meta for cellular
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"freedumb"
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yup
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funny how the freedom country is always working to reduce people's freedom with what they own to suit the corporates (edited)
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:38
we're more free
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freedumb between one overpriced carrier with locked phones, or another even more overpriced carrier with locked phones
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:38
Freeurope
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we pay $50/month per line and get 3gb 128kbps data
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for the whole month
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not per user
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Michael
freedumb between one overpriced carrier with locked phones, or another even more overpriced carrier with locked phones
same for home internet and cable TV as I understand
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but total
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RaduTek
same for home internet and cable TV as I understand
home internet isnt as bad
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we can get 1gbps up/down with at&t fiber for $80/month
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Michael
we pay $50/month per line and get 3gb 128kbps data
I pay $5 for 80 GB of 4G (5G in select places), unlimited calls and SMS
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RaduTek
I pay $5 for 80 GB of 4G (5G in select places), unlimited calls and SMS
my god
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there is another carrier we will probs switch to where u can get unlimited everything for $30/month
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at&t is just overpriced
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home internet is like $9 for symmetric gigabit with no data limit
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$5 is crazy though
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everything is so cheap in europe
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not really
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westerners have it expensive
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i literally cant afford to go to university here cuz i would have to pay $96,000 out of pocket, and thats after government financial aid and scholarships
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Germany ain't that far from USA in terms of carriers (edited)
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:40
I pay this much for 40GB of unlimited speed internet, unlimited SMS and unlimited calls
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Michael
i literally cant afford to go to university here cuz i would have to pay $96,000 out of pocket, and thats after government financial aid and scholarships
so im gonna go to a community college/tech school and hopefully that will be enough
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:40
Radu's plan is the best
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:40
lol you Serbs are having worse inflations (edited)
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:41
welp
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Michael
i literally cant afford to go to university here cuz i would have to pay $96,000 out of pocket, and thats after government financial aid and scholarships
well here in Romania each big city has it's own suite of government funded universities and if you enter with good enough grades the government pays for it all
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2800 serbian dinners is $25 usd
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RaduTek
well here in Romania each big city has it's own suite of government funded universities and if you enter with good enough grades the government pays for it all
and with scholarships you can even go study abroad
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RaduTek
well here in Romania each big city has it's own suite of government funded universities and if you enter with good enough grades the government pays for it all
wow
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:41
so 5$ for 80GB seems like a bargain
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my test scores were good but i still cant afford it (edited)
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financial aid has a bit of an oversight where if you are extremely poor it doesnt cover you
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my family makes $0/year
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my dad is dead and my mom doesnt work
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well here in Romania each big city has it's own suite of government funded universities and if you enter with good enough grades the government pays for it all
#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:42
same thing for Serbia, except there are less universities... but you can get into one of the existing ones if you have excellent grades
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we pay 4.10 dollars for unlimited internet and calls in ukraine
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in ukraine ofc
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still primary, middle and high school is a disaster in Romania the curriculum is outdated, badly designed student performance is drastically dropping year by year pandemic made things twice as worse the national educational administration is just lowering the exam difficulty levels to count for the drop in teaching quality teachers are paid as worse as store clerks (no offense towards them)
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still primary, middle and high school is a disaster in Romania the curriculum is outdated, badly designed student performance is drastically dropping year by year pandemic made things twice as worse the national educational administration is just lowering the exam difficulty levels to count for the drop in teaching quality teachers are paid as worse as store clerks (no offense towards them)
thats not any different than usa lol
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that's a plan by lifecell (which is basically turkcell but in ukraine for turkish people here)
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have u seen average american intelligence
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Michael
have u seen average american intelligence
well that's a hint to why there are still so many trump supporters
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too much radiation from the ethyl gas we used to use made us dumb
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:44
the price for the university I want to go to
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well that's a hint to why there are still so many trump supporters
i actually dont see why people hate trump
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hot take
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and we have a trump like cult starting for a new party that pretty much wants to "make our country great again"
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nobody seems to actually know why they dont like him
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its just a hivemind
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well it's like 2 hiveminds
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Michael
nobody seems to actually know why they dont like him
yeah
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ones that blindly love and ones that blindly hate
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:45
I honestly prefer Trump to Biden
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i dont rly care about politics though, ive never voted and never will
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I don't like what Trump did to Huawei
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#RadMorning
I honestly prefer Trump to Biden
did u see biden talking about why him and everyone he grew up with had cancer
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every recent usa president was fine honestly
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Michael
did u see biden talking about why him and everyone he grew up with had cancer
#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:46
nope
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RayZen
every recent usa president was fine honestly
nah to me it seems like they're all dumbasses
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RaduTek
nah to me it seems like they're all dumbasses
they werent bad but there are people who legitimately think trump was the best president in us history
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those people are dumb
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well they are all pretty much the same (edited)
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they are all just dummys for corporate lobbying anyways
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thats the main job of a president
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#RadMorning
I honestly prefer Trump to Biden
DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:47
kinda
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so they all serve the same purpose
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:47
both are bad but idk which one is correct
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Michael
they are all just dummys for corporate lobbying anyways
exactly why I don't like them
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or all of the parties
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RaduTek
exactly why I don't like them
well its been that way since the beginning of time
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cause they're working for the corporates, not the people
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US society as a whole is fueled off corporate corruption
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thats where the money is
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:48
I don't live in the USA, but I prefer Trump because he didn't support bombing Yugoslavia in 1999, unlike Biden
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"freedumb"
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:48
I don't support Trump's stupid stuff like him banning LGBT from serving in the milltary
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obviously
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:48
both have their bad sides
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I hate the cult that has grown around Trump more than Trump himself (edited)
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I don't support Trump's stupid stuff like him banning LGBT from serving in the milltary
ive never heard about that, did that actually happen or was it just some rumor?
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well in reality thats a blessing anyways, nobody willingly enters the military
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troll
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Michael
ive never heard about that, did that actually happen or was it just some rumor?
DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:49
I heard about that
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:49
meanwhile the Serbian president is thinking of making a 90-day military training MANDATORY
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for all males
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i dont wanna fight and die for oil companies
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USA investing billions in military equipment while they "don't have" money for free healthcare (edited)
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:49
me neither
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:49
Canada's Twitter account in response trolled them by saying that they are allowed to serve
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USA investing billions in military equipment while they "don't have" money for free healthcare (edited)
from what ive heard from canadian people, free healthcare is not all that great anyways
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u have to sit in line for hours just to get a doctor appointment
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:50
Canada is not perfect
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:50
no country is perfect
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:50
^
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#RadMorning
no country is perfect
weaboos: whyyy
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Michael
u have to sit in line for hours just to get a doctor appointment
better sit in line for free healthcare than sit at home and slowly die cause you're broke
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b-but... japan!!!
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big in japan?
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:50
I hear every American wants to go to Canada
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Generalization? sure, but that's what I heard
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DeRosenberg
I hear every American wants to go to Canada
a bunch of celebs said they were gonna move to south america if trump became president
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they never did, and got endlessly trolled for it
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:51
wha the fuck
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How's that gonna be any better
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:51
South America is the best /s
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Michael
a bunch of celebs said they were gonna move to south america if trump became president
celebs be dumb speedrun
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DeRosenberg
How's that gonna be any better
"because orange guy bad"
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:51
Brazil's current president is pro-trmp
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afaik
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RaduTek
celebs be dumb speedrun
yeah i dont get why celebs are popular
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most of them are kind of idiots
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Michael
"because orange guy bad"
DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:51
No president is good
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they have nothing going for them
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I don't get why people simp for celebs
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:52
All did war crimes against humanity
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Michael
yeah i dont get why celebs are popular
#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:52
because people like putting their heads into other people's asses
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RaduTek
I don't get why people simp for celebs
DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:52
I wanna say this
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RaduTek
I don't get why people simp for celebs
they're really just super privileged people that don't give a fuck about anyone else that grew up in fortune (edited)
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:52
Doesn't matter if they are popular and cool and all that stuff
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and especially I don't get the people that have sexual fantasies with celebs
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:52
None of them are more important then you, your mental health, and what you're doing
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:52
because we as people like being interested in other people's lives
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and especially I don't get the people that have sexual fantasies with celebs
most of them arent even attractive lol
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ugly plastic surgery and overdone makeup
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exactly
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basically not even human anymore
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:53
90% plastic 10% shit human (edited)
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I don't get how people call that beauty
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beauty is nature
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:53
exactly
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perfect windows 8 conversation
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I hate the over-exaggerated "female" and "male" look
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WinDVD
perfect windows 8 conversation
#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:53
mhm lol
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beauty is cat ears, a tail and whisker makeup
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🐱
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:53
Today's songs are not my favourite
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imo
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Michael
beauty is cat ears, a tail and whisker makeup
bonus points for collar around the neck
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WinDVD
perfect windows 8 conversation
me guilty? noooo
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DeRosenberg
Today's songs are not my favourite
#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:54
most of them have the same tune to them
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Michael
ugly plastic surgery and overdone makeup
yeah
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RaduTek
me guilty? noooo
#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:54
this all started from the USB HDD I believe
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from [cuplord]'s wifi connection actually
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don't get how that plastic surgery or makeup is considered "beautiful"
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DeRosenberg
Today's songs are not my favourite
fitting song for this convo
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can we move to #deleted-channel
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RaduTek
from [cuplord]'s wifi connection actually
#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:54
oh yeah
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can we move to #deleted-channel
#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:55
*if needed
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:55
lol
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the ISO is finished
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Gonna copy it to my phone
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DeRosenberg
Today's songs are not my favourite
Today as in artist or today as in time frame
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:55
yay
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this is the same guy that made the anime p***y and mai waifu songs
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RaduTek
Today as in artist or today as in time frame
DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:55
time frame
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RayZen
don't get how that plastic surgery or makeup is considered "beautiful"
especially makeup
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noone wants to move channels because that ruins the mood of whatever conversation trol
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DeRosenberg
time frame
yes I agree
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:55
Nothing against the artists in general
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dont be hating on bones my guy
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noone wants to move channels because that ruins the mood of whatever conversation trol
#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:55
it takes one click!!!
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last good period for pop songs is like 2019
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RayZen
especially makeup
if you look ugly you will look ugly, changing the color of your lips, nails or some other shit won't do anything
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#RadMorning
it takes one click!!!
when you move channels you move your mind too 🚎
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and even then I moved on from pop
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RayZen
if you look ugly you will look ugly, changing the color of your lips, nails or some other shit won't do anything
people telling me im ugly then taking off my glasses 💀
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lmfao ur hot
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lmfao ur hot
i just can never find glasses that work for me because i have a giant face
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99% of glasses are way too small
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im probs gonna get contacts
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those are the glasses i have rn
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Michael
Click to see attachment 🖼️
yeah you are hot
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Michael
those are the glasses i have rn
reminds me of some youtuber
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:57
btw I'm doing gyms so I can fit and such
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Michael
people telling me im ugly then taking off my glasses 💀
lmao
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dumbasses
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but you do look good in those glasses
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boys with long hair are cute
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people telling me im ugly then taking off my glasses 💀
DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:58
They aren't worth your time
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I don't have long hair cause idfk how to manage it
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i'm a bit lucky since i don't need to wear glasses as mine are in a better condition that i don't have to wear them all the time to see anything
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I don't have long hair cause idfk how to manage it
just a good shampoo and shower every day
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same goes for ur body, use an actual soap instead of 5 in 1 body wash crap
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i'm a bit lucky since i don't need to wear glasses as mine are in a better condition that i don't have to wear them all the time to see anything
DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 13:58
Same
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that stuff is just chemical goop
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 13:59
I probably should get glasses because I have some eyesight issues
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such as a lazy eye
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i mostly use suave shampoo, seems to work best for my hair
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boys with long hair are cute
but man is it annoying when you just get it
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but I don't think my hair would even work being longer
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i hate how my hair touches my eyebrows it's so annoying for me
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back when i used 1000 in 1 body wash & motor oil my hair was awful
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it was so greasy and gross
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but I don't think my hair would even work being longer
#RadMorning 24/07/2022 14:00
same
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then i started using real shampoo and it was light and day
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Michael
back when i used 1000 in 1 body wash & motor oil my hair was awful
idk I've always used a separate shampoo for hair
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RaduTek
idk I've always used a separate shampoo for hair
#RadMorning 24/07/2022 14:00
same
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i can't wear glasses because they would threaten my 20/20 (or 6/6) right eye. left eye is 20/45 or 6/13
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 14:00
So I'm probably gonna use Ventoy
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im near sided & far sided with astigmatism in both eyes
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absolute horrible vision
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So I'm probably gonna use Ventoy
#RadMorning 24/07/2022 14:00
I think it works with Windows ISOs
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without glasses its all just a blur
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my eyesight is almost perfect
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RayZen
my eyesight is almost perfect
#RadMorning 24/07/2022 14:01
same, except my left eye is a lazy eye
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I also have some astigmatism, but it's not that bad I can still see without glasses, but I have to squint at things
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RayZen
my eyesight is almost perfect
but it can still be blurry depending on stuff
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I wear glasses too
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RaduTek
I also have some astigmatism, but it's not that bad I can still see without glasses, but I have to squint at things
i can see somewhat decent if i squint but its a struggle
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 14:01
I can see very well still, but it does get blurry
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if i just look around i can see everything just fine, but if i for example begin to read a book with a lot of words it can become a bit blurry
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if i just look around i can see everything just fine, but if i for example begin to read a book with a lot of words it can become a bit blurry
#RadMorning 24/07/2022 14:02
don't have issues with that
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if i just look around i can see everything just fine, but if i for example begin to read a book with a lot of words it can become a bit blurry
and i can see a screen just fine too
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but for words it's a bit weird
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if i just look around i can see everything just fine, but if i for example begin to read a book with a lot of words it can become a bit blurry
DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 14:02
same for me
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 14:02
the lazy eye thing has never irritated me much
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but when it completely takes over me
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I look like a derp
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would be cool if my hair would be longer tho ngl (edited)
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 14:03
I currently have short brown hair
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im gonna grow my hair out real long probably
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 14:04
but I'm planning to dye my hair so I become blonde
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my dad had hair down to his waist lol
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 14:04
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I tried copying it but it can't
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#RadMorning
I currently have short brown hair
same
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@win32 did u see my message in general
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it's less messy than it was before (edited)
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DeRosenberg
I tried copying it but it can't
#RadMorning 24/07/2022 14:05
try unplugging and plugging in the stick again
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 14:05
didn't work
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 14:05
don't copy to C: then
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copy to Documents
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 14:06
done
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cutting it
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 14:06
at first I didn't even notice you were copying to C:
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 14:06
yeas
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this is why terry davis said file permissions shouldnt exist in a consumer product, and linux is dumb
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 14:06
also, if I were you, I wouldn't have cut the files
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because in the case of the drive suddenly disconnecting
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bad stuff happens
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I would have copied and then deleted the files off of the USB
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 14:12
it didn't disconnect
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so that's good
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lovely
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 24/07/2022 14:24
@ImSwordQueen
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ImSwordQueen 24/07/2022 14:25
truly lovely
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windows iso be like (edited)
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 14:44
Opening Ventoy
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stuck at 98%
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wait
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done
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 15:05
copying the iso
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an attempt
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ImSwordQueen 24/07/2022 15:12
probably remove the service pack 1 tag
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yeah that winver was a trial and error to get it to not be "Microsoft Microsoft Pre-release Windows Operating System"
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yeah was gonna do that
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ImSwordQueen 24/07/2022 15:14
also replace segoe with tahoma trol
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nah, arial
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ImSwordQueen 24/07/2022 15:14
or whatever the font pre milestone 2 used
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me forgor
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haven't touched the theme itself so haven't bothered to center basic and ribbon stuff yet
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ImSwordQueen 24/07/2022 15:15
brb updating unredpilled 9200
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there we go
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win8to7875 trol /s (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 24/07/2022 15:18
send it in betawiki trol
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well unpilled 7875-7899 because doubt that start screen is possible to replicate on 9200 (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 24/07/2022 15:19
the white one?
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yeah that's mostly a nope on 9200
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unless some sort of recreation program is made
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ImSwordQueen 24/07/2022 15:19
fuckers hardcoded the start screen backgrounds somewhere
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still better than 9600 troll
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at least the start screen bgs can be modified in 8.0
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so the fish bg is sorta possible
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Scamdisk
there we go
I'd unironically install that.
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meh this could be an addon for the 7tp
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Just add the title bar glow 'bug' and it's 🤌
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that requires grilling udwm
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and aero glass
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I was told that it's an atlas bug, rather than a uDWM one
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had to roast shell32.dll.mui so "Microsoft" doesn't show up twice in the first string in winver
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So in theory that could be replicated by messing with theme. Although when I moved the 8032 msstyles to 8045, the bug didn't transfer over
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8032 is the last one with that, btw
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8032 didn't have the bug?
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guess 7985 was a weird odd out build then
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Yeah, 7985 is.. interesting
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or rather that branch fixed the bug so the public doesn't see it
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Fair. good thing 7985 symbols got leaked too
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after all, a later compile of the same build was used at d9
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If it turns out to be udwm anyway
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mfw when a kernel branch fixed a visual bug
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That other branches didn't adopt till mid 80xx
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I guess it was like Longhorn 4050, newest code to show off, which was probably also developed separately (edited)
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 15:34
restarting
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Scamdisk
at least the start screen bgs can be modified in 8.0
ImSwordQueen 24/07/2022 15:37
they can be modified but not entirely
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because microsoft hardcoded how the bgs are displayed
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ofc they did
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 15:44
I'm in the setup
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#RadMorning 24/07/2022 15:48
did you back up your data back to the USB stick?
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 15:49
Da
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It's on my phone
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Scamdisk
an attempt
Deformisani SAS 24/07/2022 15:58
nice no blur
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also why are you using a beta version of winodws 8?
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Look at the build tag
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 16:03
Installed
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Deformisani SAS 24/07/2022 16:04
build 9200 win 8
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and at the date and time in that tag especially
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Deformisani SAS 24/07/2022 16:04
2011
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oh it says 2020 (edited)
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how did you achieve the user icon on the taskbar though?
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can you upload that build somewhere? because i wanna try it out
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It's a third party program that replicates it
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Deformisani SAS 24/07/2022 16:06
does it work on 7?
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Yes
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Deformisani SAS 24/07/2022 16:07
gib
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Download Taskbar UserTile - Enjoy a Windows 8 feature onto your computer and be more close to the actual experience of owning this OS on lower versions of the system
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If you don't want to log into dA (edited)
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Deformisani SAS 24/07/2022 16:08
thx
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although how do they achieve that
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i'm really confused
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programming skill
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Deformisani SAS 24/07/2022 16:08
i wonder if it works on vista troll
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it does, just slightly fucked
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Deformisani SAS 24/07/2022 16:09
lmaoo
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who tf would want that
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need to look at your pfp? open the start menu
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Or use SAB
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It seemnly works on that
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DeRosenberg 24/07/2022 17:12
I have a problem with the networks section on win8
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It keep saying it's connecting but it's taking a long time
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It keeps saying it's connecting
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I might use the phone internet
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Tehtering
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moment
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ImSwordQueen 26/07/2022 09:45
why are icons in shell32 stupid
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holy shit
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this only happens using the mui method to patch them
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because for some reason it follows the singular icons instead of the icon group
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and resource hacker fucks it up
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ImSwordQueen 26/07/2022 20:38
man i have a problem with 8.0 on my laptop
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it won't connect to any wifi networks anymore (edited)
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it just crashes
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wifi drivers be sane challenge
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ImSwordQueen 26/07/2022 20:41
@#RadMorning
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#RadMorning 26/07/2022 20:41
😍
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the only thing I would change is the background
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ImSwordQueen 26/07/2022 20:42
eh this is 8.0
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so no desktop background as start screen background
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#RadMorning 26/07/2022 20:42
I would probably put one of the simpler backgrounds
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or a solid color one
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ImSwordQueen 26/07/2022 20:43
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really colorful
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I couldn't see myself having that many shortcuts
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mostly cause I know I'd only use 1/5
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and I'd get mad cause I have many unused icons
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had same issue with start menu on Windows 10
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I wanted to have it more complete, but I didn't need anything than what I already had (edited)
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same issue with 11 and with my phone
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I prefer the smaller tiles because it doesn't make the screen scrollable
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do you use the vertical scroll to also scroll sideways on the Start page (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 26/07/2022 20:46
the 8.0 setup i have right now is meant to have an experience with the start screen
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RaduTek
do you use the vertical scroll to also scroll sideways on the Start page (edited)
#RadMorning 26/07/2022 20:46
yeah
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if you're referring to the scroll wheel
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ImSwordQueen 26/07/2022 20:47
i tested this with rdp and an ipad
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and it looked neat
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I once had Windows 8.1 installed in a VM on my Surface Go and the start screen was nice
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#RadMorning 26/07/2022 20:48
I would love to use Win8 on a tablet
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but I wouldn't use it at all on a desktop or main laptop
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#RadMorning 26/07/2022 20:48
though I use 100% all desktop apps
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except PC settings
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honestly through all the few times I used Windows 8 I didn't even touch PC settings
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#RadMorning 26/07/2022 20:49
the only thing the PC settings can do well in terms of why I use it is to control Bluetooth stuff
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to be precise - Bluetooth headphones
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though Windows 10 does that even better as it allows you to connect your headphones to your PC as soon as you turn them on
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in Win8, I have to go and toggle BT off and then on to make them work
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because they didn't implement a Connect button
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grrrrr
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#RadMorning
the only thing the PC settings can do well in terms of why I use it is to control Bluetooth stuff
can't you also do that from devices & printers?
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RaduTek
can't you also do that from devices & printers?
#RadMorning 26/07/2022 20:51
yeah, but it's easier to just toggle BT for my headphones to work
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not having to remove my device and then pair it again
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I used to do it from Devices and Printers
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but I found out the trick in PC settings
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and my life has been easier since
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aka it's easier to access the options
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you don't even have to go into Settings
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but this wasn't available since release
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it's only on insider rn
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also idk what they fucked up in the newer insider beta builds
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#RadMorning 26/07/2022 21:18
before you type that out
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#windows-10-11
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well you started it :P
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#RadMorning 26/07/2022 21:19
only shortly
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barisberat 27/07/2022 00:07
windows 7's explorer.exe for ex7forw8 (windows 8 only)
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now no more downloading a windows 7 ISO (edited)
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 27/07/2022 00:09
has anyone tried to see what build of 8.1 broke ex7forw8?
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this os was so beautiful, idk why they thought 10 was a better design
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8.1 metro + aero glass w/ the release preview theme is 👌
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might install 8.1 on my ryzen pc tomorrow (edited)
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do u have an archive of metro apps that i can install on 8.1?
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since i see u have a bunch of them there
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Michael
this os was so beautiful, idk why they thought 10 was a better design
10 has a better design at desktop
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the caption buttons of Windows 8 never looked good to me
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10 has a better design at desktop
i think 8.1 w/ aeroglass is best
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and the preview theme
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i use the 8.1 taskbar theme on 10 with sib++
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well that's customized
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I'm talking about the official untouched product (edited)
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RaduTek
well that's customized
ye they should have just kept the preview theme w/ aero for desktop
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it was so much better
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yeah would have matched the Aero icons (edited)
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County
has anyone tried to see what build of 8.1 broke ex7forw8?
ImSwordQueen 27/07/2022 11:13
9271 is the earliest
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jesus fuck that's early
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ImSwordQueen
9271 is the earliest
Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 27/07/2022 17:20
damn
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th2 moment
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you WHAT?
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how
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got a spanish coreconnectedsinglelanguage image
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yeah professionalstudent is an upgrade target to that
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then en-US'd it as much as possible
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can you tell me how exactly the process goes or is it ultra secret
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ImSwordQueen 28/07/2022 11:15
install spanish coreconnectedsinglelanguage image
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open cmd in administrator
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use dism
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upgrade it to professionalstudent
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but you need it syspreped to do so
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hold up hold up
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do what with dism
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upgrade it?
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might as well release a iso of this
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even tho it's just my best attempt to despanish it
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Scamdisk
even tho it's just my best attempt to despanish it
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i expected the spanish inquisition troll
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i always do trol
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ImSwordQueen 28/07/2022 13:41
finally it fucking works now
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what exactly am i looking at
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ImSwordQueen 28/07/2022 13:44
up arrow and properties icon
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shell32 is a bitch on 8.1
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i see
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ImSwordQueen 28/07/2022 13:45
mui icon replacements would break existing icons
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even if you use the right id for the icon group
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and here i have
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the first symbolless left aligned uDWM
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on an inlined build
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it's pretty universal
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i byte patched just like i did in my 9200 uDWM
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then i'll try to figure out how to patch symbolless GetLeftOffset builds
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actually that should be easy
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here's my 8176 uDWM even though this is a pretty weird build
688.5 KB
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So, the process is identical to RTM. mind sending that uDWM? I need to recall some stuff about the inlined function- (edited)
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Thanks
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i really forgot how to patch the thing in ida
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our comments in the chat weren't really that clear outside of the time
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ImSwordQueen 28/07/2022 13:52
so patching the centered titlebar is basically universal thru 7779 to 9200?
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Ofc. there was almost nothing left of my knowledge
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ImSwordQueen
so patching the centered titlebar is basically universal thru 7779 to 9200?
No, 8102 or earlier, it's GetLeftOffset
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earlier builds used a more familiar
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method
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yeah
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getleftoffset was present in earlier builds
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ImSwordQueen 28/07/2022 13:53
oh
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then ditched for an inlined variant
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for god knows what reason
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ImSwordQueen 28/07/2022 13:53
basically the same shit as 9600
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and then getleftoffset returned
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ImSwordQueen 28/07/2022 13:53
why do i think they wanted to scrap the centered titlebar in 9600
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but didn't
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so yes you can bytepatch inlined builds the same way you do 9200
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ImSwordQueen
basically the same shit as 9600
Yeah, you can straight up locate the beginning of the function and use valinet's bytes
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ImSwordQueen
why do i think they wanted to scrap the centered titlebar in 9600
nah
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ImSwordQueen 28/07/2022 13:54
imagine patched caption buttons sizes (edited)
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a dream 🥺
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that's a tricky one
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i don't recall ever finding any trace of that stuff on uDWM
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but i seriously doubt it's anywhere else (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 28/07/2022 13:55
i don't think it's in dwm directly
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or dwmapi
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it's not in the theme
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or atleast i don't think so
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ImSwordQueen 28/07/2022 13:55
that's for sure
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Would be cool. If I pinpoint what changes the sizes between 9909 and 9913, hopefully that might narrow things down
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maybe themetool will reveal something else
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but i doubt it
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but yeah
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ImSwordQueen 28/07/2022 13:55
i mean
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people thought animations were handled by dwm (edited)
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seeing how 9909's uDWM on 9926 brings back 8.1 sized captions
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ImSwordQueen 28/07/2022 13:55
so maybe?
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and the actual captions itself
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ImSwordQueen 28/07/2022 13:56
probably it would be easier to see what changed in 9926 against 9909 but without symbols would be pretty difficult
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almost impossible
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ImSwordQueen
people thought animations were handled by dwm (edited)
9926 is the only one with symbols right
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fuck
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wrong reply
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ImSwordQueen
people thought animations were handled by dwm (edited)
They are, but msstyles sets the way they render maybe
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actually
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Vruh 2
9926 is the only one with symbols right
Yes
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9926 has symbols - 9888 also has symbols?
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no
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9888 doesn't
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9879 does however
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But it's good for tracking down functions in 99xx too (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 28/07/2022 13:58
windows 10 betas becoming useful????
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Vruh 2
9888 doesn't
Unfortunately no, it's also the first build that introduces maximize/restore animations, which would've been lovely in 9879
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ImSwordQueen
Click to see attachment 🖼️
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 28/07/2022 13:58
Unless you do a Rectify11 and replace ALL of the icons
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ImSwordQueen
windows 10 betas becoming useful????
Yeah, some research and we'll have ways to make 8.1 better.
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Aesthetically, I mean
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ImSwordQueen 28/07/2022 13:59
no start menu sadly
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unless you can somehow port the shit over
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It's rooted way too deep in the system, to my knowledge
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ImSwordQueen 28/07/2022 13:59
yeah it is
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At least in Vista/7 most of it was in the shell
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Which is what made ex7for8 possible
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ImSwordQueen 28/07/2022 14:00
then 9271 happened
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and probably earlier as well
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 28/07/2022 16:43
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here's the N variant as well
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DeRosenberg 28/07/2022 17:49
I have a problem with my WiFi adapter
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Doesn't work
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try win7 driver
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ImSwordQueen 28/07/2022 19:40
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oofer_dww
try win7 driver
DeRosenberg 28/07/2022 20:01
I'll see
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ImSwordQueen
Click to see attachment 🖼️
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 28/07/2022 20:12
Funny how this all really happened because of The Window Colour Ensemble
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 28/07/2022 20:47
like, the DLL Win8To7 uses is literally a piece of The Window Colour Ensemble edited to be 7's palette and images/names.
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DeRosenberg 28/07/2022 22:20
Tried searching it but I couldn't
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 28/07/2022 22:21
L
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barisberat
windows 7's explorer.exe for ex7forw8 (windows 8 only)
barisberat 29/07/2022 12:04
a pin would be ideal
#RadMorning pinned a message to this channel. 29/07/2022 12:06
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why does that exist
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there's a bing/connected variant of every core variant (edited)
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so stuff like 8.1 China with Bing and 8.1 N with Bing exist
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Only with microsoft products troll
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these seem to be the free for OEMs editions
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because the regular 8.1 with bing did ship with cheapo laptops
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and this too
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can't find any trace of the chinese one
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and the N variant can be only gotten by 👨🍳
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Scamdisk
can't find any trace of the chinese one
"So I booked a flight to china"
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Scamdisk
can't find any trace of the chinese one
that isn't 3 th2 builds or th2 rtm repair packages (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 30/07/2022 13:32
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yeah
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but that centered title got me fiending to get your face smashed into the pavement
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Vruh 2
but that centered title got me fiending to get your face smashed into the pavement
ImSwordQueen 30/07/2022 14:36
Patch x86 binaries then
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are you in x86
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ImSwordQueen 30/07/2022 14:36
Yes
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provide a statement containing the reasons as to why are you running x86 windows 8.x
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ImSwordQueen 30/07/2022 14:37
Because i need to check if 8to7 doesn't break on x86
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and why do you need to do tha
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t
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ImSwordQueen 30/07/2022 14:38
Because yes?
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nevermind
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ok
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that's a good reason
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eh i'm not valinet 🎛
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troll
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ImSwordQueen 30/07/2022 14:39
@RaduTek can i get trusted and smart back
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are you really trusted anymore tho
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ImSwordQueen 30/07/2022 14:40
shut the fuck up skip
14:40
go to hell
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malding
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ImSwordQueen 30/07/2022 14:41
blocked
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ImSwordQueen 30/07/2022 14:41
i'm tired of reading your bullshit
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discord users telling the entire server they blocked someone to feed their superiority complex
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skip
are you really trusted anymore tho
what did i lose again
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imsword hates me cause i got his troll alt banned on the xp server
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literally
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thats the entire reason
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fuck the xp server anyways
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bitchass place
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exactly
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i dont see why its such a big deal
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i only go there to periodically check development 2
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and #photography-art
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for the funny
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are you gay?
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im not
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Anyway, I only like trolling the dumb users who think Adobe CC == MS Plus.
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win32
are you gay?
ImSwordQueen 30/07/2022 14:47
why are you asking vruh if he is gay
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no way win32 reads the xp server
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ImSwordQueen 30/07/2022 14:47
🤔
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no way he has the bd plugin which completely hides blocked users messages
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couldnt give less of a shit honestly
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ImSwordQueen
i'm tired of reading your bullshit
#RadMorning 30/07/2022 14:52
and some other people are tired of you being butthurt so you shut up
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Please don't let these interpersonal conflicts spill into WLS!!
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#RadMorning
and some other people are tired of you being butthurt so you shut up
ImSwordQueen 30/07/2022 14:53
if i was so butthurt i was going to remove every pinned message i made
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which is basically more than 30% of the whole windows 8 pinned messages
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win32
Please don't let these interpersonal conflicts spill into WLS!!
i told him to take it up with me privately but hes too scared to enter my dms apparently
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#RadMorning 30/07/2022 14:54
then do it if you want, remove them
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he likes complaining about it here instead
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WAIT
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betajyst is online
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ImSwordQueen 30/07/2022 14:54
i'm not going to
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and if someone removes them
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they are the butthurt in the situation
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im not gonna touch your pins
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#RadMorning 30/07/2022 14:55
me neither
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I would kick anyone if pins are removed, because this would conflict with the mission of WLS.
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ImSwordQueen 30/07/2022 14:55
literally i have no personal gain to remove them
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ImSwordQueen
@RaduTek can i get trusted and smart back
depends if more staff agree to it
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im sure they wouldnt be ok with giving him trusted role back since he literally gave me mod lol
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RaduTek
depends if more staff agree to it
#RadMorning 30/07/2022 14:56
I'm not staff but for now I would say no
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im sure they wouldnt be ok with giving him trusted role back since he literally gave me mod lol
how can you trust someone like that
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giving random idiots mod
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#RadMorning
I'm not staff but for now I would say no
yes, for the time my opinion is no
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he can ask mods to manage pins for him (edited)
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RaduTek
depends if more staff agree to it
ImSwordQueen 30/07/2022 14:57
did i ever leak something?
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i abused mod yes
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i agree i don't deserve it
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neither with advisor
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i only asked for smart and trusted
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ImSwordQueen
did i ever leak something?
no I mean I don't want to take decisions just on my own
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ImSwordQueen 30/07/2022 14:57
which to be fair
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trusted is dead
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the last message was sent 1/2 months ago
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yes
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ImSwordQueen 30/07/2022 14:58
so it doesn't change anything
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the only thing i did was to give skip mod
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because he clearly thinks he is better than anyone
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i didnt say that
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#RadMorning 30/07/2022 14:58
go to DMs
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i dont want to even dm him about it
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its his choice to be mad against me
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ImSwordQueen 30/07/2022 14:58
no i don't want to unblock them (edited)
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mf hit with that they them shit (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 30/07/2022 14:59
literally the damage has been done
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so talking with them is going to be useful like shitting in a park
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you two calm down
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RaduTek
you two calm down
#RadMorning 30/07/2022 15:00
maybe mute sword
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solve your personal beef in private (edited)
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idk I don't like to take sides
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#RadMorning 30/07/2022 15:00
this shouldn't escalate
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that's why I suggest that
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im not gonna bother arguing with him
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well if you start beefing again I will mute you both
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#RadMorning 30/07/2022 15:02
good idea
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let it be your warning
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i didnt argue with him tho?
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RaduTek
well if you start beefing again I will mute you both
ImSwordQueen 30/07/2022 15:02
i blocked them so i don't have any incentive to start beef with them anymore (edited)
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again stop talking about this
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#RadMorning 30/07/2022 15:03
we're even in the wrong channel
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ImSwordQueen 30/07/2022 15:03
talking about #windows-8 related
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8to7 3.2 coming soon
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probably today
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i don't fucking know anymore
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I should install Windows 8.1 on a laptop to mess with it
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Windows 8.1 on TC1100?
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would be too slow
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and no drivers
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RaduTek
Windows 8.1 on TC1100?
ImSwordQueen 30/07/2022 15:04
does it even have 7 drivers?
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The Science Elf showed it ran somewhat acceptably
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ImSwordQueen
does it even have 7 drivers?
not really, mostly vista drivers and modded drivers
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ImSwordQueen 30/07/2022 15:04
aeroglass is going to totally ruin everything
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#RadMorning 30/07/2022 15:04
though, TSE didn't mention any drivers
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for video you need a modded driver that fixes resume from sleep
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ImSwordQueen
aeroglass is going to totally ruin everything
the drivers don't support Aero
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ImSwordQueen 30/07/2022 15:05
actually
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i wonder if 8.1 glass8 supports software dwm
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8.0 doesn't
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it would probably run at like -1 FPS
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#RadMorning 30/07/2022 15:06
earlier today I uninstalled my graphics driver
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and glass8 ran okay
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like people shit on Atom CPUs, but they're way better than Pentium Ms
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especially when the Pentium M is clocked at 1.1 GHz
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#RadMorning 30/07/2022 15:06
using 8.1 btw (edited)
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like people shit on Atom CPUs, but they're way better than Pentium Ms
ImSwordQueen 30/07/2022 15:07
say that to the phone variant of the intel atom :trol: (edited)
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funny that the TC1100 is more compatible with Windows 8 than most netbooks
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just because of the screen resolution
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8/8.1 BSoDs if the screen can't do 1024x768
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so stupid
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Windows 10 doesn't have this limitation
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netbooks have screen res lower than 1024x768??
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it's 1024x600
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I would really want a netbook with like a low end Core 2 Duo
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a 1280x800 screen
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ImSwordQueen 30/07/2022 15:08
get a macbook
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the polycarbonate ones
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but those are like 13"
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I want a 10" machine like that
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cause 1280x800 at 13" is a bit rough
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is literally no one gonna notice that betajyst is online
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still for XP or 7 it would work
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skip
is literally no one gonna notice that betajyst is online
didnt they like take a break from discord
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skip
is literally no one gonna notice that betajyst is online
i noticed
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the polycarbonate ones
but I can't find a black one for cheap
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skip
didnt they like take a break from discord
they left the server when they said that
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then rejoined idk when
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ImSwordQueen 30/07/2022 15:10
i'm not going to say anything
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just check the mod room @RaduTek
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you have to scroll a little bit i believe
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or I can look in the welcome
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ImSwordQueen 30/07/2022 15:12
no i mean
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we had a discussion in mod room
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just look in there @RaduTek
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ImSwordQueen 30/07/2022 15:19
Did you check? @RaduTek
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WHAT THE FUCK betajyst online
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Deformisani SAS 30/07/2022 16:21
i hacked his acc
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Deformisani SAS
i hacked his acc
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ImSwordQueen
i wonder if 8.1 glass8 supports software dwm
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 30/07/2022 16:54
it does
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ImSwordQueen 30/07/2022 21:31
The complete Windows 8 and 8.1 to Windows 7 Transformation Pack is finally here! Download here: This transformation pack contains an easy-to-use installer to tr
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 30/07/2022 23:25
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ImSwordQueen
updated the forum post about 8to7 https://forum.eclectic4un.me/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=107
Awesome
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DeRosenberg 31/07/2022 15:05
Small question: Can I use Windows Update when my Windows is activated?
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I just don't wanna break Windows
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DeRosenberg
I have a problem with my WiFi adapter
DeRosenberg 31/07/2022 15:11
Because I think me updating it would fix the issue I have
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Or I might reinstall Windows
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ImSwordQueen 31/07/2022 15:11
yeah you can update
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DeRosenberg 31/07/2022 15:17
Oh okay
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DeRosenberg
Small question: Can I use Windows Update when my Windows is activated?
yes
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ImSwordQueen 31/07/2022 18:02
8250 had the branding in anytime upgrade. i wonder why they removed it
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DeRosenberg 31/07/2022 20:47
I'm using minitool
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Should I select selected by Windows Update or select all?
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DeRosenberg 31/07/2022 21:58
How do I fix this can't connect to network error btw?
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restart router
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if you're lucky and it resets in the way needed
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it'll work
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DeRosenberg 31/07/2022 22:05
From the PC? Or from the router?
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Sorry I'm stupid it's my first time knowing it
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Reset
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Hmm
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router
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turn it off and on
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windows does this shit sometimes but i usually dont have to deal with it since i just use ethernet
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DeRosenberg 31/07/2022 22:10
Did it
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Still checking network requirements
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Connecting to the network is taking longer than usual
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Didn't work
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Fuck
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are you using an external network adapter
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DeRosenberg 31/07/2022 22:18
External?
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I use a WIFI adapter
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No
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Should I reinstall Windows?
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#RadMorning 31/07/2022 22:29
have you tried reinstalling the driver for the Wi-Fi adapter?
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DeRosenberg 31/07/2022 22:30
Yes
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Using the CD that I have for the Adapter
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Didn't worj
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Work
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what brand what model
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DeRosenberg 31/07/2022 22:33
Realtek
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?
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hold up checking it
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try these
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also check if you can connect from another device
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DeRosenberg 31/07/2022 22:42
Hold on
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I'm on PC
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Using internet with a phone
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Restarting because my wifi keeps saying connecting
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hold on
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Checking Network requirements
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Goddamn
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Didn't work
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I might reinstall Windows 8
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DeRosenberg 31/07/2022 23:17
Reinstalling
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What's the difference between Windows 8 Pro and Windows 8 Pro Media Center
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I'll pick the normal version
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media center comes with media center
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i guess
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Reinstalling
🤨
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gave up fast
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DeRosenberg 31/07/2022 23:41
¯\(ツ)\
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DeRosenberg 01/08/2022 00:00
Checking network requirements again
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Taking too long
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Ugh
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No
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did you try the win7 driver
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in the 7z
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DeRosenberg 01/08/2022 00:17
Yes
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Didn't work
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DeRosenberg 01/08/2022 00:30
Good news, I connected it using a RealTek utility
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 01/08/2022 00:35
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gonghorn
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 01/08/2022 00:50
Vista gaming
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have this i guess
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Abu Faraj al-Libbi 01/08/2022 23:37
there is only updates that are preinstalled on this iso right?
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ImSwordQueen 06/08/2022 07:33
huh. microsoft wanted to put the charms bar on the left too (edited)
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Deformisani SAS 06/08/2022 07:34
wait how did you find that
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ImSwordQueen 06/08/2022 07:34
and use mac os's style caption buttons troll (edited)
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ImSwordQueen
huh. microsoft wanted to put the charms bar on the left too (edited)
Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 06/08/2022 07:36
this could also just be the stupid window selector thing they did
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The time charm thing is flipped too
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ImSwordQueen 06/08/2022 07:37
nah it's just a flipped version of the right charms bar image
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Yeah, considering the caption buttons being on left, lol
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huh. microsoft wanted to put the charms bar on the left too (edited)
#RadMorning 06/08/2022 07:53
that's probably for RTL languages, such as Hebrew or Arabic
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ImSwordQueen 06/08/2022 07:54
Oh the caption buttons are reversed as well
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#RadMorning 06/08/2022 07:54
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gah damn
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ImSwordQueen
huh. microsoft wanted to put the charms bar on the left too (edited)
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 06/08/2022 09:57
They did put it on the left, though.
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insert RTL Charm Bar
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ImSwordQueen
huh. microsoft wanted to put the charms bar on the left too (edited)
damn I hate that now RH scales images to fit the window
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ImSwordQueen
huh. microsoft wanted to put the charms bar on the left too (edited)
i think its for right to left reading versions
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like arab windows
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in those the entire ui is flipped
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even the taskbar, start is on the right side
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ImSwordQueen 06/08/2022 13:27
Yeah
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#RadMorning 06/08/2022 13:27
Already said that
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ImSwordQueen 06/08/2022 13:27
I forgot about rtl
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watermark meanwhile defies all of that
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ofc because the thing handling the wallpaper and such doesnt seem to flip
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how do y'all install 8.x from the ISO in a VM without the product key
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I don't want to mod the ISO to add ei.cfg
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and I tried to add the ei.cfg to the X:\Sources from the command prompt and it didn't work
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It usually lets you skip that
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You can enter a GVLK key, it won't activate anyway
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i have one of those keys. works all the time (edited)
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one moment
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They are public, and perfectly legal
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Получите ключи продуктов, требуемые для установки и активации Windows Server и других продуктов Windows с сервера узла KMS.
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Whoops
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Get the product keys needed for setup and activation of Windows Server and other Windows products from a KMS host server.
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334NH-RXG76-64THK-C7CKG-D3VPT
#RadMorning pinned a message to this channel. 09/08/2022 16:33
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this is what i have at hand and it works fine
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E2
It usually lets you skip that
nope
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#RadMorning 09/08/2022 16:33
the Windows 10 setup does let you skip that, but not 8.x iirc (edited)
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i dont know if it will work on 8.0 however. i didnt try that
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already tried that maybe I typed it wrong, let me try again
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ImSwordQueen 09/08/2022 16:34
i love breaking 8.0
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RaduTek
already tried that maybe I typed it wrong, let me try again
Make sure the edition respective to the key is present, btw
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oh wait I was using the 8.0 key
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and I have 8.1
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ImSwordQueen 09/08/2022 16:35
i wonder what makes themecpl kill explorer entirely
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i don't understand
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now it works
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#RadMorning 09/08/2022 16:36
great
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the fuck is this bullshit
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ImSwordQueen 09/08/2022 16:40
Create a new account
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go local
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or create a new acc will fail
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it failed lol
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ImSwordQueen 09/08/2022 16:40
and it will give you the option to create a local account
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yeah figured
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it sometimes works
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sometimes it doesn't
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so fucking slow
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curious that it already has video drivers
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ImSwordQueen 09/08/2022 18:03
ok fuck modding themecpl and themeui
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getting it to recognize more themes is impossible
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this is weird
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also wow Xbox Music is what became Groove Music on Windows 10
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app looks so similar
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also it can't index the shared folder
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also wow Windows 8.1 runs so well in a VM
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it's the snappier than XP, Vista and 7
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library shared from the host OS
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with WMP's media sharing feature
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cause Windows 8's WMP doesn't want to index the shared folder
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it's the snappier than XP, Vista and 7
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 10/08/2022 01:31
that's what using DWM does to an mf
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Windows with DWM immediately makes it way snappier than without
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source: Some Bakageddon tests on Win7
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lol no
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using windows 7 with vs without dwm is another thing
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dragging windows feels unreal
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on real hardware
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that being said, the only reason why dwm doesn't tear is because it has forced vsync
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no
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dwm syncs with the monitor refresh
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well
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unless you mean like freesync or some variable refresh bullshit
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then i don't know
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but it should work on higher refresh rates
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or lower
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idk
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well
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then
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using windows 7 with vs without dwm is another thing
Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 10/08/2022 02:15
dwm is king bro
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Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.
iirc it worked for me
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i remember using my viewsonic 1280x1024 monitor at 85 hz alongside my main 1080p and it worked without any problem
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Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.
my laptop is 144hz and i hooked it up to a 60hz monitor
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considering win10 uses dwm and it works just fine
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i am not sure about your statement
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Well that is Windows 10
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What about Windows 7?
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why would i install 7 on there
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does something like MAS exist for Windows 8.x?
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10q
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oh wait forgot to run as admin 🤦‍♂️
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Activate your Windows 8.1 for free. 100% safe and working. - Windows-8.1-Activator/Activator at main · wenzylking/Windows-8.1-Activator
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a script from msguides.com
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ImSwordQueen 10/08/2022 16:34
it's just a glorified slgmr command (edited)
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yes
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but I didn't want to bother to find the right key for msguides KMS
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ImSwordQueen 10/08/2022 16:34
you reminded me
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to check if there is any 8.x volume mak key
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nope there aren't any
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Use slmgr commands with one of the keys from this
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does something like MAS exist for Windows 8.x?
#RadMorning 10/08/2022 17:44
you can technically activate 8.x using the Onlike KMS option in MAS
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if you want it to be permanent, enable the renewal task
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 10/08/2022 17:45
Neat
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 15/08/2022 01:58
2012 - 2022 https://glass8.eu/ The domain was parked.
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😩
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Deformisani SAS 15/08/2022 02:05
aero glass is dead?
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:(
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why?
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It's on internet archive
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It's pinned in this channel
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it has been dead for a few years now, but only this year did the site die (edited)
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the 8.x ones may as well become abandonware in 2023-2024
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Basically already is, just not legally yet
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Still useful af
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doubt you can even get it activated legally anymore
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You know, with the site dead and all
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I really wish that Devs who decide to not support their product would just release a last version that's unlocked
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Would help both your current customers and what could've been your next customers
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 12:11
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RaduTek
I really wish that Devs who decide to not support their product would just release a last version that's unlocked
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 15/08/2022 14:54
I mean, for all we know... something could have happened.
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and that's why it's no longer supported, if that's the case. tbf, if that very unlikely is the case, they literally can't do ANYTHING since about the current Glass8 situation for fairly obvious reasons et al. (edited)
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I'm hoping that's not the case, but so far all the puzzle pieces we have give off the impression that could have occurred. (edited)
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If that did happen... that'd honestly be sad if so. Too bad the only way we'll truly know what happened is if them, or a family member or friend of theirs, says what happened to Glass8. (edited)
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doubt you can even get it activated legally anymore
Yeah. I actually wanted to pay for a donation key, but those keys aren't provided anymore. I use it cracked
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Regardless it's still invaluable for 8.x
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Yeah. I actually wanted to pay for a donation key, but those keys aren't provided anymore. I use it cracked
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 15/08/2022 15:14
you got a permanent 8.1 install on hand?
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'cos I do have room for another key generation
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and thing is, with some HOSTS trickery, the server still technically works
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And yes 8.1 is the main os on the t520 I'm gifting my gf
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 15/08/2022 15:16
i just need that funni machine code it asks you about copying every now and then (edited)
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Well my glass8 is cracked
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It doesn't show that
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But I know what you're talking about
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I do have a problem though... And I'm sure it's a driver thing and not glass8
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The HD 3000 driver won't display Aero translucency until the laptop's been connected to AC power. Then it'll work, even unplugged. But if needs that every cold boot. I endured the Intel driver isn't employing isn't power saving tricks
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It has Optimus with nvs 4200m. I booted just the dgpu and it doesn't happen there
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That's intentional on glass8's part
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Tried a few hd 3000 drivers
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Nope I disabled that in registry
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I know what you're talking about, though
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As I said this is isolated to Intel HD
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DisableGlassOnBattery - - 0
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ik it can happen on nvidia too, but then again, 320m
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It's basically hd 3000 performance, but not as handicapped
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Better opengl and directx support
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I wonder what the problem is, though
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inb4 a bug
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 15:28
probably something in the battery settings?
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I know it's not glass8, I have that properly setup
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Tried high performance, same bug
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 15:29
weird
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And I know the disable glass on battery is disabled. Because when I unplug it, the glass still works
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It's only every cold boot
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 15:29
might it be that aeroglass doesn't load?
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for some reason
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or does the custom atlas still appear?
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And it does not happen if I boot just the nvs graphics with no Intel
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Atlas appears
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It's just transparency
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 15:30
weird
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And it does not happen if I boot just the nvs graphics with no Intel
Just to reinforce this
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I checked the Intel settings very thoroughly too
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All power saving stuff is off
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It's not that big of a deal. Still sus, though
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 15:36
nothing in the amd settings panel?
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It's Nvidia lol
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 15:37
oh nvm
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And no
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 15:37
i thought hd 3000 was an amd card
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and not intel
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my bad
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No that's second gen Intel
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Sandy Bridge
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 15:37
yeye
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so nothing in the intel panel. hm weird
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i7 2620m. It'll be a 2720qm quad core in a few days
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Ivy failed 💀, I'd need a hardware flasher
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 15:38
what os would the thinkpad run?
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only 8.1?
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ImSwordQueen
so nothing in the intel panel. hm weird
There were, but I disabled it all
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8.1 and revi21h2 (10)
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Second is a compatibility fallback
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 15:38
so no vista? troll
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Not at this time
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I main Vista on my e6530, but I thought 8.1 would better suit my gf
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(for now)
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 15:40
ye
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I'll get it out and show you
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hd 3000
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uh
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 15:41
you probably showed me before in dms
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i only ever had a hd 4000
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 15:41
8.1 is set as default right?
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This happened before dualbooting
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 15:42
my setup it's this
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my setup is
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windows 7
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2tb/4tb data hdds
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and not a single other thing
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Wait I'll show the 10 install now
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feelscringeman
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Hehe
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It's just a compatibility fallback, though. Very little software but essentials there
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It does perform nicely, though. Revi strips away the bullshit
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 15:49
chromium is ungoogled right?
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Uses about the same resources as 8.1
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No
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 15:49
oh
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Chromium.woolyss.com
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They're almost Chrome, but no telemetry unless signed in. Above all, no background updating service
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Has widevine and sync support though
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 15:50
wait vista support?
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You don't need an extension to install extensions feelscringeman
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 15:50
nvm
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Not officially
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 15:50
obviously with the extended kernel
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With the kernel, well yeah
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 15:50
troll
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The way this is setup though
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 15:52
wait
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why using revi instead of ltsc 2022?
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8.1 and 10 are both setup optimally, with all drivers and such. But 10 is mostly bare. 8.1 has all the, shall we way fun software. 10 was setup under the impression it'll be booted infrequently, and any software added is shit that won't work on 8.1. Open something there, then get the heck out
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 15:52
or 2021
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Is that a wise setup?
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ImSwordQueen
why using revi instead of ltsc 2022?
I like how Revi21h2 is configured
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 15:53
oh alright
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I'd have to do a lie of work I'm not willing to do to get it in that state
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Shy of being Windows 10, it's perfect
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docR
Is that a wise setup?
But back to this 🤔
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docR
Is that a wise setup?
ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 15:54
?
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what setup
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The way I've dualbooted
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 15:54
oh yeah
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How 10 is setup more bare than 8
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 15:55
yeah makes sense compability wise
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It makes sense 8 is more setup, 10 is more empty just to run things 8 won't?
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 15:55
8 is for daily usage (when it still viable) and 10 for everything that does not support 8
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The 7 theme still uses the white toolbars btw
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Small detail, his pointing it out
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 15:56
sadly pinky is gone
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ImSwordQueen
8 is for daily usage (when it still viable) and 10 for everything that does not support 8
Yep that's how I've done it
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 15:56
and i'm not good at editing themes
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It's fine. It's a beautiful theme
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 15:56
literally took me time to figure out what went wrong on the titlebars on clevine
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And well, so long as an os has an actively updated browser, it's viable for me
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 15:57
they look better now
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docR
And well, so long as an os has an actively updated browser, it's viable for me
ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 15:57
yeah
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But when you get the male poon browser treatment 💀
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ImSwordQueen
they look better now
Very pretty
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 15:58
that isn't viable anymore
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resizing them breaks them
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but that's the way that vista does
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so i don't think i can fix it
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 15:58
unless there is an obscure way to do it
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it's very minor
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What do you think of the way 10 is setup btw? 🤭
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I just wanted it to be relatively similar, so booting it is less of a shock
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 15:59
firefox as main and chromium for the rest. makes sense
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why the outdated store?
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Well which ever she chooses
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 16:00
yeah
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Hm? I don't know, but it works. I doubt it'll be used much regardless
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 16:00
sib++ as the main start menu and taskbar i see
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unless it's open shell
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This stuff will appreciate that quad core
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Open Shell, but with the SIB orb
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 16:01
oh nice.
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i didn't know you could theme the taskbar that well on 10
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It's a texture
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I have Vista textures too
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But she's used to the superbar
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7 skin matches the superbar
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Otherwise I'd have 8.1 Vista themed lol
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 16:02
that's how my setup is too
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default superbar
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docR
Otherwise I'd have 8.1 Vista themed lol
ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 16:02
Vista8?!?!?!?!!?
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Shhhhhhhhhhh
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There's Canadians here
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 16:02
@That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes you have competition
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My focus is Vista7 lol
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He can have 8, he's better at it than me
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In reality my 7 is more like 6608, though
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 16:03
no more vista7?
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vista7 dead????
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rip bozo????????????????
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It's not dead
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It just so happens to look more like 6608 lol
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 16:04
thing is
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I like it
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 16:04
there's a transformation pack that makes windows 7 look like 6608
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 16:04
by marda
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Well it's Ryan's Super Epic Windows 7, 'looks moreorless like Vista
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Better?
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 16:05
yes
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Also I brought these to 8 lol
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Windows Energy cool
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 16:06
btw does your vista7 install have vista's stikynot? troll
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How future proof you figure that Thinkpad is once the sandy ⏳ quad core is in? 🧐
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ImSwordQueen
btw does your vista7 install have vista's stikynot? troll
No
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pepe_based
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Some things don't need to survive
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How future proof you figure that Thinkpad is once the sandy ⏳ quad core is in? 🧐
ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 16:07
2008 hardware is still good
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so it will be a while
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This is a mix of 2011, 2015, and 2020 hardware
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Everybody gangsta till MS actually starts forcing those requirements
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 16:07
you still have 10
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and vista troll
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unless microsoft chooses to kill win32 for good
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Ehhhh. The requirements scare off the less experienced already, I doubt they will get that much more aggressive. Someone will always find a way
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ImSwordQueen
unless microsoft chooses to kill win32 for good
That will never happen
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Reminder about pre-10 WoA
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Unless they want to move everyone to arm, there will always be a way
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 16:09
ah yes
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windows on arm (edited)
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well no one has bothered to patch out 10 to run without nx sse2 or pae
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Windows RT feelscringeman
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 16:09
the circus is round the corner (edited)
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nah, that's the SKU
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 16:10
i wonder
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CoreARM x64 doesnt have the Win32 app sig check thing because that's arm specific kernel/ci flag
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 16:10
if 7000's stikynot would work on vista now
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If anything, I think Microsoft will loosen the "requirements" somewhat if they choose to drop the standard skus of 10 in 2025. Either that, or extend it another 5 years
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They forced everyone onto 10, only to lock its successor down feelscringeman
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Gee wonder what that will do
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Well i mean there's this thing called CorePC in the works
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 16:11
it's been a thing in the works for 5 years scamdisk
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probably 6
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aka basically 10X but with as Little compromises as possible
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 16:12
how many products were shipped with corePC?
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probably 1
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None as of yet
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also CorePC != LitePC != Polaris != Andromeda
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 16:13
yeah
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tho those are all cut from the same cloth
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WCOS
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 16:13
damn it
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KernelBase moment
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 16:13
kernelbase ruining our hopes and dreams
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It do be like that at times
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 16:14
atleast 7000's sidebar "works"
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wmp12 will never run on Vista™️
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But artificial system requirements aside. This is alright from a purely hardware perspective? It just awes me freaking smartphones have similar cpus now
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But all java vm feelscringeman
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.net
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The installer literally checks the registry for compat
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ImSwordQueen
atleast 7000's sidebar "works"
What was even different
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 16:16
no sidebar
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I thought you meant 7000 to rtm nvm
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changing a value from client to embedded for example makes the installer run, but that doesnt mean it will properly install
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well without the shit from embedded the update that installs .net 4.8 needs
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I despise those server/client checks. They're so worthless
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 16:17
unironically 6519's sidebar broke my sidebar once
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gadgets would just vanish
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I despise those server/client checks. They're so worthless
Partition managers and antiviruses on their way to make you pay for their pointless Server editions
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 16:18
"you can't run this on PE" (edited)
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That's even dumber
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Especially when shit like EasyUEFI does it
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ImSwordQueen 15/08/2022 16:19
welcome to mini partition tool
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ah yes
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a tool which is meant to fix stuff
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doesn't work on PE
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Unless you buy the pro edition
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very stupid
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Well after CPU upgrade. Thinkpad needs a 90w ac adapter and dock, and a USB 3 express card. Then it be done
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Charging a 97 wh battery off 60w adapter... Very fast
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As you can only imagine
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Scamdisk
Partition managers and antiviruses on their way to make you pay for their pointless Server editions
Pfffft
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Yeah
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Speaking of which
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I'm just giving her that portable comodo cleaning essentials scanner, and mbam free
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I mostly just run unfamiliar executables through virustotal myself
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She's responsible, she doesn't need a bunch of nanny software
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also Linux part managers better
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By far
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I keep a xubuntu usb for that very purpose
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ImSwordQueen
welcome to mini partition tool
just use gparted
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not these "partition managers"
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I mean the Surface Go really is that
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With Windows in S mode which is worse than Starter
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Windows in Stupid mode
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Fun Fact: S Mode is just 2 registry keys that set a CI flag
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Yes, fucking Server Datacenter in S Mode is possible
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Yeah I know
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I tried to bypass S mode like that
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I failed
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Skill issue
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You need a PE to properly edit registry
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on a S Mode system
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Either that or WinRE
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Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\CI\Policy] "WindowsLockdownTrialMode"=dword:00000001 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\CI\Policy] "SkuPolicyRequired"=dword:00000001
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Doing those in reverse will disable s mode
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Scamdisk
You need a PE to properly edit registry
Idk how I tried to change it
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ImSwordQueen
Click to see attachment 🖼️
the Door guy 16/08/2022 23:41
Woah wait how
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 19/08/2022 17:23
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ah yes, the Surface exclusive one
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i tried something stupid, didn't go anywhere
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IE won't launch obivously
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ImSwordQueen 22/08/2022 22:10
cooking windows 8 enough that windeploy just gives up
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👨🍳
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ImSwordQueen 25/08/2022 12:40
sex
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here is the dui file (icons not included)
44.39 KB
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whole dll for 8.1 (includes icons)
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sex
Deleted User 25/08/2022 13:04
No Windows 11 logo based
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ImSwordQueen 25/08/2022 13:04
that's 8.1 bootux fault
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i can't fix that
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Deleted User 25/08/2022 13:06
Windows 8.1 more based than ever
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ImSwordQueen 25/08/2022 13:16
@skip you might like this
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i use grub tho
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ImSwordQueen 25/08/2022 13:19
i said might
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skip
i use grub tho
ez add option to boot to grub as well
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ImSwordQueen 26/08/2022 19:13
can someone try patching this udwm with this? i tried it and failed
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actually i found the issue
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i'm too dumb
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OK IT'S BIGGER
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NOT BY MUCH
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BUT IT'S BIGGER
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@E2 btw ^
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Nice, who did this?
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ImSwordQueen 26/08/2022 19:24
rounak
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on the rectify11 discord
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I was gonna get around, but I've been so busy lately (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 26/08/2022 19:24
ye i noticed
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Props to rounak
19:24
Can be made even wider perhaps
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ImSwordQueen 26/08/2022 19:24
it can
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Does it apply to the lone button too?
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ImSwordQueen 26/08/2022 19:25
sadly
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no
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lone is an another value
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At least the harder part is behind, less effort finding that too
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Let me test this too
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ImSwordQueen 26/08/2022 19:25
wait let me copy all the stuff he found
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for the normal one
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i believe it's this
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for normal buttons
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Wow, the same thing I pinpointed long ago :D
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ImSwordQueen 26/08/2022 19:27
you know you were right that time lol (edited)
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Good to know that at least
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I suppose the lone button one has a similar naming
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ImSwordQueen 26/08/2022 19:28
now the lone button is something with "lone"
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this is the value for the normal button he wanted to modify
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for normal buttons
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i'm reposting stuff that he posted
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Go on, I'll take a look tomorrow if I can
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ImSwordQueen 26/08/2022 19:34
i posted all what he posted there (edited)
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about the caption buttons
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I'm seeing a value get moved, lol
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Alright, I'll see what it is, thanks
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ImSwordQueen
i believe it's this
and i had a suspicion
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ImSwordQueen 26/08/2022 20:01
you were suspicious about that (edited)
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i will murder you
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Deformisani SAS 26/08/2022 20:05
amogus
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ImSwordQueen
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Deleted User 26/08/2022 20:10
Windows 8.1 theme?
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ImSwordQueen 26/08/2022 20:11
nah we are in the #windows-8 channel to talk about windows 7
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of course it is
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Deleted User 26/08/2022 20:12
I just saw the channel has new messages, did not see which channel it was ☠
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I hope you get it fixed
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ImSwordQueen 26/08/2022 20:44
the values he inserted
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why that specifically
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ImSwordQueen 26/08/2022 22:23
"7"'s values (edited)
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almost
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ImSwordQueen 26/08/2022 22:28
yeah it's almost
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it's only 3 pixels short
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meanwhile the lone button is
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somewhere
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legit
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ImSwordQueen 26/08/2022 22:29
it's most likely in captionbuttonbounds
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but who knows
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only microsoft knows
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Deleted User 27/08/2022 09:30
For me Windows 7 theme just looks weird on 8.1
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ImSwordQueen 27/08/2022 09:41
The buttons size are smaller
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That's why
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Click to see attachment 🖼️
ImSwordQueen 27/08/2022 15:48
modifying this kills dwm apparently (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 28/08/2022 20:30
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what
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 00:38
Glass
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what
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 29/08/2022 02:55
Glass
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barisberat 29/08/2022 08:16
blast
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 10:51
@E2 bad news. apparently patching udwm to make the buttons bigger fucks up firefox for some reason
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maybe it's a bad patch but it's not looking good
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 11:23
Do it anyway.
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Just CSS mod Firefox to use Win7's button-cutout. (edited)
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Not like Firefox isn't a mess of disrespecting the titlebar anyway... Firefox on Windows 7.
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As long as browsers like an old version of Chromium (where the profile button was next to the titlebar buttons) are fine, yeah, just Firefox's problem. (edited)
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 11:35
For the record, Firefox on Windows 7 literally does THIS
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(or did at least)
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
Just CSS mod Firefox to use Win7's button-cutout. (edited)
ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 11:36
... how?
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 11:37
CSS modding.
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Firefox does have win-version-specific CSS in the Firefox CSS.
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Heck, you can also therefore bring back the shine in Firefox.
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 11:39
fuck that
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 11:39
Just, check Chrome 61.
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It has a profile button right next to the titlebar buttons, and has 7-10 compatibility. (edited)
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Thus, it's an incredibly useful asset for checking the expected button placements for applications like Chromium. (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 11:41
IE not being shit challenge
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 11:41
After all, you did say IE works... although that's probably because of IE's design introducing forced margins to the right. (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 11:41
i'm waiting for it to load shit
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 12:02
So... we found out 100% of other programs we tried work fine with the wider buttons
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Thus making only Firefox have the issue
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ImSwordQueen
@E2 bad news. apparently patching udwm to make the buttons bigger fucks up firefox for some reason
what if you change compatibility mode to windows 7?
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 12:04
stays fucked
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or try other ways to spoof your windows release
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 12:05
I'd say just leave it unfixed if you cannot fix it, given it's clearly a Firefox-specific issue.
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 12:05
thing is
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i want to main it
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so
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hell naw
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 12:05
Heck, it's probably using Windows 7 buttons-mode, which ofc. appears to be bugged.
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hell naw
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 12:06
hell yeah 'cos it gives Mozilla an incentive to fix their shit
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Due to people reporting it
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I know - just add a condition to Win8To7 which checks for Firefox, and if so uses the legacy udwm.dll
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@ImSwordQueen ^
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 12:08
i legit would just put this as an extra
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 12:08
I mean, it's only Firefox with the issue TBF.
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We shouldn't need to make too much of a compromise, tbh, except just subtly not doing that thing when Firefox is present. (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 12:11
nope still fucked even with the css patch
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
We shouldn't need to make too much of a compromise, tbh, except just subtly not doing that thing when Firefox is present. (edited)
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 12:12
^
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After all, it seems like a pointless option to add to the UI.
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 12:13
about the buttons?
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 13:26
yeah, the titlebuttons.
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just make it automatically choose depending on Firefox being installed or smth.
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That sounds messy
13:46
If Firefox is broken, regardless of their gross UI defaults and need of CSS regardless, there's bound to be breakage elsewhere
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Having a slightly more narrow button is better than breaking applications
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It looks so much like 7 it's at the point of diminishing returns
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If Firefox is broken, regardless of their gross UI defaults and need of CSS regardless, there's bound to be breakage elsewhere
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 14:25
if Firefox is broken, while 100% of other applications that aren't Firefox aren't, that's a Firefox issue.
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Tell them to fix their horrendous bugs already so they can be considered a serious browser again, instead of us having to compromise for a single program, imo. (edited)
14:27
Heck, wouldn't be surprised if Firefox 28 works just fine, even, since Chromium works fine, since Edge works fine, since every other application Sword has tried works fine but Firefox, Firefox is the ONLY broken program. (edited)
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'sides, Firefox on Windows 7 more recently has done, or does, this: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/972654791471824917/1013773862539894824/20211023_115850.jpg
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Heck, on Linux Firefox is literally the worst browser, period, with issues like inability to properly respect your titlebar button order preference, menus that have broken backgrounds if you use image/gradient backgrounds, etc.: Does that mean people should stop using themes on Linux, client-side decorations, etc., since only Firefox breaks with them? I think you get my point by now - it's time we stop bending our asses over for a broken piece of software, and actually give Mozilla a reason to FIX IT, tbf. They've been given too many chances now, and everyone has bent their asses for Mozilla too many times, just for them to give us more bs to bend our asses about in return. If EVERY OTHER APPLICATION but Firefox works, we shouldn't care (because Mozilla clearly doesn't care), as it's clearly a solely Firefox issue at that point by process of elimination. (edited)
14:37
'tis honestly a shame Sword relies on such a broken browser, too, 'cos now we're probably gonna need to add a Firefox workaround to the installer inevitably, thus giving Mozilla less reason to care about such bugs. honestly, I just feel sorry for y'all who have to put up with all of this, since y'all probably expect way better, but ofc. Mozilla ain't ever gonna listen. (edited)
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 14:48
(on a related note, tbf the only reason I give Firefox love at this point is to prove a point that it ain't beyond remedy just yet, and can be saved if it is given some actually good management and code-work... and significant decisions made, in respect to GTKless) (edited)
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is this such a breaking problem
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 14:49
legit i wasn't planning a 8to7 3.3 yet
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 14:49
i mean, it's inevitable tho.
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 14:50
like death?
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🤔
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thanos wasnt inevitable so neither is thistroll
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 14:51
wait
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i just realized
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that the ugly ass fog in firefox
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is intentional
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 14:51
yeah...
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yes
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 14:51
always has been intentional.
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because Mozilla is incapable of adding GLOW to labels to match Windows's appearance (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 14:52
that's why glass8 on firefox doesn't look sad
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but then
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you got themes that makes it sad
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because Mozilla is incapable of adding GLOW to labels to match Windows's appearance (edited)
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 14:52
so they just committed 78xx(?)
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
'tis honestly a shame Sword relies on such a broken browser, too, 'cos now we're probably gonna need to add a Firefox workaround to the installer inevitably, thus giving Mozilla less reason to care about such bugs. honestly, I just feel sorry for y'all who have to put up with all of this, since y'all probably expect way better, but ofc. Mozilla ain't ever gonna listen. (edited)
They wouldn't care more anyway, they don't speak for issues caused by OS customisation, let alone modifying the window manager components
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Although they do neglect non-custom environments quite a bit too, lol
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 14:55
but weird that
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firefox breaks like that with 1 simple value change
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"simple"
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ImSwordQueen
firefox breaks like that with 1 simple value change
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 14:55
Firefox breaks with 1 other simple value change:
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ImSwordQueen
is intentional
I thought that was obvious 😂 I instantly figured that the glass wouldn't contrast nicely with the black tab text on some colors, like black
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 14:56
Titlebar button order on Linux
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
Titlebar button order on Linux
ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 14:56
:oh:
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 14:56
so it's likely nothing to worry about, except Firefox being Firefox
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Firefox logic: elementary OS titlebar layout? Two buttons on left.
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 14:57
welp 1 more reason to use aero css on firefox troll
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ImSwordQueen
firefox breaks like that with 1 simple value change
To me, sounds like use cheap hacks to keep the title bar together
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 14:57
yeah same
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Quantum was better
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 14:58
i believe quantum does it as well
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actually
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let me check
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 14:58
well yeah no sher Quantum was better, that's a literal fact. troll
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though, pre-Australis Firefox best
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 14:58
which version was quantum
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i believe quantum does it as well
It did some other things much better than proton does
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I think, 88
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 14:59
welcome to
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what the hell is this
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Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 14:59
n o idea
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ImSwordQueen
what the hell is this
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 14:59
That is Firefox on Windows 7.
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:00
ok buttons are dead too
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great
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 15:00
well yeah
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they remove the buttons in Windows 7 when using Firefox themes (edited)
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it's a feature they introduced recently in Proton, I think
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:00
no i mean
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dead because of udwm's patch
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 15:00
where the fog and themes overlay the titlebuttons entirely
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:01
going to test quantum
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Google did not bother screwing around with chrome, and just disables Aero borders
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it's a feature they introduced recently in Proton, I think
Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:01
proton is the previous ui for firefox. this is photon
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:01
🤞 that proton is the fault
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Deformisani SAS
proton is the previous ui for firefox. this is photon
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 15:01
wrong
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Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:01
no
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 15:01
Proton is the shit ui
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Photon is the good ui
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Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:01
photon
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:01
proton is the shit ui that there is now
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Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:01
photon is shit
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:01
photon is quantum and before
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
Photon is the good ui
Oh, it's photon
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:01
literally shittiest opinion?
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no wonder you are a cs:go player
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ImSwordQueen
no wonder you are a cs:go player
Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:02
stfu nn
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Photon is the best one they had
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:02
literally says the russian cs:go player
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Let's not get personal, eh?
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Deformisani SAS
photon is shit
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 15:02
you might need your eyes cleansing, as Proton is the shit ui actually. This is Photon, for comparison, to bad application design number 1: troll
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:02
photon 😌
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you might need your eyes cleansing, as Proton is the shit ui actually. This is Photon, for comparison, to bad application design number 1: troll
Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:02
that s proton
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:02
OK PHOTON DOESN'T HAVE THIS BUG (edited)
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Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:03
photon is the ui that we have now
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:03
LEGIT
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PROTON SUCKS ASS
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Deformisani SAS
that s proton
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 15:03
what proton?
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That hasn't got Proton's floating tabs
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therefore, it isn't Proton.
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Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:03
THEN WHAT IS IT?
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 15:03
It also says, ON OFFICIAL DOCUMENTATION, it's Photon.
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:03
this is photon
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 15:03
next time, RESEARCH your claims before making claims debunked by just one Google search. :P (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:03
or quantum
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photon based
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Elite, you might be confusing. Floating tab UI introduced in 89, is Proton
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Older one since 57 is photon, I believe
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:04
yep it's broken in proton only (edited)
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 15:04
Photon is the last good design for Firefox
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:04
wow
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 15:04
Proton is the shittiest browser design of all internet browsers (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:04
proton being garbage?
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nobody thought about that
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it's not like
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It was probably rushed too
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:05
it's the most hated firefox design
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Customisation looks properly only on 10+
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ImSwordQueen
it's not like
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 15:05
I mean, Proton did add the titlebar hiding feature, wym
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Older one since 57 is photon, I believe
Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:05
wrong
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How? Are you going to argue with Mozilla?
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 15:05
just use Firefox in Windows 7, and here in 8.x, to see the feature where they hide your titlebar buttons from view, or otherwise fog them. troll (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:06
an another proton L
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no i did not cut the screenshot on the top
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it's like that on proton
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it gets cut for some fucking reason
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I'll update my theme for 100 esr or whatever it is now
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Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:07
how tf is ur titlebar entirely transparent?
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:07
102ESR
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Deformisani SAS
how tf is ur titlebar entirely transparent?
ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:07
check #web
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But I also theme it more like ff4-28, too, which requires title bar off
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I'll say
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Love how customizable Firefox is but.... Fucking hell why are the defaults so bad?
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Photon looked great
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It was modern
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:08
legit proton is a disappointment
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But looked nice on everything
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 15:08
*why is it so bad?
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there, more accurate now. troll
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Chrome has better ui defaults
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:09
but then
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Firefox can stomp all over it with css, sure
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 15:09
*Chrome has better basically everything
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:09
you can't customize chrome
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 15:09
troll
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:09
so if it has a bad UI
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people would just switch
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 15:09
outside of customisation UI (edited)
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But the our if the box experience should still be decent
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
*Chrome has better basically everything
Manifest v3 creeps at the door *
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 15:09
basically everything
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doesn't mean all everything (edited)
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Extensions store is a malware haven
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*Chrome has better basically everything
ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:10
not in the adblock space troll
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ImSwordQueen
not in the adblock space troll
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 15:10
congrats, you said what HAL said
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:10
damn
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i didn't scroll
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 15:10
💀
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:10
i want to see how aero CSS looks on 8to7
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it will be broken
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 15:10
laughs in Vivaldi with CSS and UI-customisation
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Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:10
@docR stop being everywhere
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:11
elite can you not break the convo
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legit
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Harder to get working on older oses. Extensions, despite both utilizing web extensions, have more access to the shell. (eg tab unloaders getting context menus), policies.json customization, better build documentation
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ImSwordQueen
elite can you not break the convo
Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:11
no
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It's a friendlier browser all around
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:11
-warn @Deformisani SAS
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Containers are a godsend
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ImSwordQueen
-warn @Deformisani SAS
Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:11
u don't have your role for that
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:12
doc? troll
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Deformisani SAS
@docR stop being everywhere
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 15:12
cringe
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also they really made Lepton a literal theme in Waterfox (edited)
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cringe
Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:13
that ui is terrible
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cringe
ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:13
ok that looks awful
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holy shit
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remember when waterfox was considered good?
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
laughs in Vivaldi with CSS and UI-customisation
Vivaldi looks like it's been kicked in the face by a mule. And all that fancy UI shit is loaded from a js plugin. It's hell lol, although cool in concept. Chromium is best left unmodified. Or just small cosmetic things
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ImSwordQueen
remember when waterfox was considered good?
Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:13
yeah and i used it
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:14
edge works somehow
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but then
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Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:14
did firefox break css?
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:14
shady practices to get users to switch
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Imagine Opera 12 revival, using Firefox though. That would make for an interesting browser
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Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:14
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:14
that would be a cool project unironically
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Imagine Opera 12 revival, using Firefox though. That would make for an interesting browser
Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:14
someone did that already
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Click to see attachment 🖼️
ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:15
you forgot to enable legacy customizazion
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Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:15
but the github page was taken down
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ImSwordQueen
you forgot to enable legacy customizazion
Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:15
where tf is that
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:15
Opera 12 UI
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+
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Gecko
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+
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all the privacy settings on by default
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that would be cool as fuck
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Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:16
where do i enable legacy customisation?
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:17
about:config
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Vivaldi looks like it's been kicked in the face by a mule. And all that fancy UI shit is loaded from a js plugin. It's hell lol, although cool in concept. Chromium is best left unmodified. Or just small cosmetic things
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 15:17
looks in sadge
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:17
yeah it's broken with aero CSS too
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Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:17
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:17
i guess proton did something for the tabs
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I made that theme for 91
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:18
literally you are looking at the wrong one
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i mean
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it works on 102 esr too
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Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:18
there is no other legacy thing in about:config
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I haven't updated it yet, but friends say it's mostly okay on the next esr yeah
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I'll update it later
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I'm still on 91
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:18
udwm is the problem with the caption buttons
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sadly
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I update my themes when I switch troll
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My themes are for me first and foremost lol
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ImSwordQueen
udwm is the problem with the caption buttons
Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:19
port win 7 dwm
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:19
i will port deez nutz in your mouth
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Deformisani SAS
port win 7 dwm
-brasil @Deformisani SAS
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docR
-brasil @Deformisani SAS
Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:19
y
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No 7s dwm is comparatively shit lol
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Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:19
what
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Slower than vistas and 8s
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Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:19
lol no
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lol yes
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Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:19
vista's udwm is slower than 7's
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:19
@docR look at this 😍
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Deformisani SAS
vista's udwm is slower than 7's
You're drifting
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Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:20
and 8's is faster than 10's
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:20
ok you deserve to be brazilled
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docR
You're drifting
Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:20
into your mouth
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:20
i have to bring the right icon
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ImSwordQueen
@docR look at this 😍
Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:20
damn how old is that
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:20
but damn that looks hot
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ImSwordQueen
@docR look at this 😍
I was wondering when someone would Remake that. @Scamdisk mind if I rehost that on my domain, too?
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Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:21
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I can host it without https so it'll load in everything, if you can send the files
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Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:21
it works on firefox 95 but doesn't on firefox 104
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:21
it's meant for esr
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so thank you captain obvious
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I only update my themes for ESR
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I'm not paid to update it every 3 days
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Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:22
ngl this theme looks terrible
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user error
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docR
I can host it without https so it'll load in everything, if you can send the files
ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:22
if you host it is it possible to have it have different search engines?
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docR
user error
Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:22
you mean uid?
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:22
yep user error
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you're running it on 10
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that's the first mistake
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ImSwordQueen
if you host it is it possible to have it have different search engines?
I mean I'm sure it is, but I'd have to research that one
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well wasnt me who did this
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 15:23
diagnosis: Skill issue
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:23
wtf scamdisk lore?!?!?!?!?!?
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multiple scamdisks?!?!
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scamdisk lore?
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Uhhhhh
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Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:23
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well, there could be multiple of any username
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Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:23
the aero buttons are not looking good
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Well either way I'll try and save the page contents and rehost it
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i've seen multiple people with the username "Xeno" for example
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ImSwordQueen
@docR look at this 😍
Can you dm me that url. So I don't forget?
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also
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 15:25
Ubuntu Start Page when
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troll
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
troll
Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:25
make one
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 15:25
tbf
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it's just a reskin of Firefox's in the earlier days
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Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:26
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what about porting modern ass gecko over to ff3- oh wait
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what about porting modern ass gecko over to ff3- oh wait
Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:26
not possible.
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:27
what about a firefox 28 fork which gets updated.... oh wait
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ain't palememe a ff24esr tho
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@Deformisani SAS also. Change the Firefox theme to default. If it's still dark, it's probably trying to apply the Windows 10 theme. I really didn't design this theme for 10
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:27
dark on vista looks fine
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You could use the light theme in Firefox, but it'll be white instead of blue
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:27
on 10 it looks like garbage
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Deformisani SAS 29/08/2022 15:27
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ImSwordQueen
dark on vista looks fine
It looks a little funny, but I might be able to tune it
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anything glossy/glassy on 10 looks like garbage
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anything glossy/glassy on 10 looks like garbage
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 15:28
WindowBlinds:
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:28
i like it how it looks tbh
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 15:28
troll
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3flat5me
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
WindowBlinds:
garbage
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:29
@docR here are the files
107.13 KB
15:29
they look broken though
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:oh:
15:30
only the 2009 one looks broken
15:30
the 2005 one looks fine
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 15:33
noice.
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figured out how to add lines to these message boxes
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they look broken though
The logo I'm assuming? Maybe the images are hosted somewhere
15:33
I'll figure it out
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Least the 2005-8 one is good though
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:34
god this looks so good
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Dm that to me so I don't forget
15:34
I'll fix it up
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 15:34
bes.
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
bes.
ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:38
Nice 8toVista icon there troll
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 15:39
there, added it to Win8To7's upstream code yes.
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ImSwordQueen 29/08/2022 15:40
I'm currently testing open with enhanced to see if i should add it or nah
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
bes.
why not offer the user a yes/no option here?
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 21:05
because you wanted to begin transformation by the time that appears (edited)
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it's merely warning you it'll have some limitations
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to me it sounds like it's skipping a tweak for compatibility reasons
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I'm saying to give a yes/no option to let the user accept the risk of breaking Firefox
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and add a "If you don't understand this, click <default option>." (edited)
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 29/08/2022 21:13
there is no risk.
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there is 100% chance.
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
figured out how to add lines to these message boxes
Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 29/08/2022 22:51
\n
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 31/08/2022 21:58
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gib wallpaper
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skip
gib wallpaper
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 01/09/2022 11:04
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/97226724 WARNING: DO NOT check the Lagtrain tag with R-18 on, period.
ラグトレイン
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never tell people to not do something
💀 2
11:05
crucial mistake
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/97226724 WARNING: DO NOT check the Lagtrain tag with R-18 on, period.
k lemme check with r-18 on
11:05
wow very god
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k lemme check with r-18 on
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 01/09/2022 11:07
Prepare for one instance of blood? then... Also wait tf are you doing with it on when you aren't an adult, eh, EH? 💀 (edited)
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
Prepare for one instance of blood? then... Also wait tf are you doing with it on when you aren't an adult, eh, EH? 💀 (edited)
ok
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also they will not know i'm an adult troll
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ImSwordQueen 01/09/2022 11:17
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 02/09/2022 22:53
22:54
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ignore the... Delta IE on the Quick Launch
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 02/09/2022 23:44
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Click to see attachment 🖼️
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 02/09/2022 23:49
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 03/09/2022 22:46
man.
06:09
I have an idea. You could use the library icon from 6608 as the main explorer.exe icon
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I did that in my Vista7
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Brownie points if you can figure out window frame opaque effect, without that buggy unglass that breaks multiple monitors
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also the icons for the other libraries folders could had just been the 6608 ones, but the 6801? ones work just as well
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Brownie points if you can figure out window frame opaque effect, without that buggy unglass that breaks multiple monitors
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 04/09/2022 13:53
you literally can't in 8.1/8.0 rn
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because the technique is gone, reduced to atoms, from dwm/Glass8. (edited)
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😭
13:54
the msstyles literally uses it, at least in DS!Delta
13:54
but without it present...
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I have an idea. You could use the library icon from 6608 as the main explorer.exe icon
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 04/09/2022 13:55
meh.
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Besides, you can't change explorer.exe's icon in 8.0+ in the first place (edited)
13:55
explorer.exe is signature enforced
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 04/09/2022 14:25
dis is why u shud use vista....
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 04/09/2022 14:25
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
Besides, you can't change explorer.exe's icon in 8.0+ in the first place (edited)
ImSwordQueen 04/09/2022 14:34
maybe make that in 8.0 (if you even support that) it replaces explorer with 7's
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ImSwordQueen 06/09/2022 17:27
Everything At Once by Lenka was used to promote Windows 8. The lyrics “it’s everything at once” signalled the plan for 8 to run on all kinds of device, from tablets to PCs. Microsoft said, “the new UI is […] optimised for touch, [but] works equally well with a mouse & keyboard.”
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RostiTheGamer 09/09/2022 10:41
Well, will I be able to install Russian Language Pack after I install this version of Windows Embedded 8.1?
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I'm just wondering
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Just install the client Russian LP
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RostiTheGamer 09/09/2022 10:46
Oh, where I can find it?
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look for the languages thing in control panel
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You should be able to add it from there
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RostiTheGamer 09/09/2022 10:47
Ah, I guess I will be able to do that!
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yeah imagine needing ultimate to use language packs
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take that, vista and 7 users (edited)
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RostiTheGamer 09/09/2022 10:48
I guess it is possible to download language packs in this modified version of 8.1 Embedded!
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well Vista and 7 have a funny workaround, but still
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RostiTheGamer 09/09/2022 10:51
Also, does this ISO include Visual C++ Runtimes installed? (edited)
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Or I do have install them seperately?
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RostiTheGamer
Or I do have install them seperately?
separately
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but i included dotnet 3.5
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RostiTheGamer 09/09/2022 11:16
Ah oki
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At least there's Visual C++ Runtimes AIO
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take that, vista and 7 users (edited)
You could also add 2000 and XP then
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take that, vista and 7 users (edited)
Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 09/09/2022 15:36
gang xp x64
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no
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xp rtm sp0 x86
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lemme guess as to why? progman perhaps?
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ImSwordQueen 09/09/2022 16:22
the store for 8.1 is gone
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8.0 store somewhat works but can't fetch shit
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weather for 8.0 fails to load now
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8.1 live tile is dead
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RostiTheGamer 09/09/2022 16:38
Tried that ISO, but Boot Camp assistant threw me an error due to the file being 5 GB. I guess it requires 3-4 GB in order to do that
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ImSwordQueen
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aEW71YhWBGC4tdjZ1WXiwYxZLXvIkONt/view Windows 8.1 Pro and Core fully updated 5-2021 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CRGUs0L1k7KCHwKrQkWBcjzE3hgUdsyo/view Windows Embedded 8 Industry Pro and Enterprise fully updated 10-2021 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cXqu5Y-_7vCXRgoyKsPX_OByzzzLitaG/view Windows 8.1 Pro and Core fully updated 6-2022 (edited)
RostiTheGamer 09/09/2022 16:38
Maybe I'll try that ISO cuz it's 3 GB
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I hope it will work
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And is it also x64?
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Here's a tip, you can install Windows on a Mac without the bootcamp assistant
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RostiTheGamer 09/09/2022 16:51
Oh, how can I do that? I currently have Mac OS X 10.8.5
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what mac do you have
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lemme guess, macbook4,1?
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RostiTheGamer 09/09/2022 16:52
Mac Mini (Mid 2011)
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And is it also x64?
ImSwordQueen 09/09/2022 16:53
i only used x64
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so yes
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if it's not xp
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you can always have the guarantee it's x64 from me (edited)
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RostiTheGamer 09/09/2022 16:53
Oki, got it
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Guessing that may still need mbr for Windows, so here's a trick, download the cd version of rEFInd and flash it into a usb
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then flash another usb with the Windows you want
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then boot rEFInd from the rEFInd usb
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and there, you can boot mbr from usb
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RostiTheGamer 09/09/2022 16:54
Oh
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Apple dumbery as usual
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RostiTheGamer 09/09/2022 16:55
Yea
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I need another partition of my HDD for Windows?
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Also here's another thing, You cant boot mbr from usb after you install Windows like this due to well, Apple dumbery again, so You gotta wipe that hdd back into gpt
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RostiTheGamer 09/09/2022 16:56
Damn
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How do I do that?
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RostiTheGamer 09/09/2022 17:32
Oh well
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At least I managed to create a bootable USB drive with that ISO. I hope Boot Camp will let me install that version of 8.1 Embedded
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RostiTheGamer 09/09/2022 17:46
Also, does that ISO work on MBR?
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Or only in UEFI?
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Btw, Boot Camp managed to copy the installation files in my USB and the installer is working!
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RostiTheGamer 09/09/2022 18:32
Alright, I finally installed it!
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RostiTheGamer 09/09/2022 19:29
I will install games tomorrow
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RostiTheGamer 09/09/2022 20:37
Bummer, the Discord App somehow stopped updating, but at least the web version seems to be working
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So from now on, I will stick to the web version cuz Discord app somehow stopped working
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Oh well. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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RostiTheGamer 10/09/2022 05:51
Welp, I guess Windows 8 is a bit faster than Windows 7, well for me
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this is true]
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RostiTheGamer 10/09/2022 05:52
Yep
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It is
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I really missed using Windows 8.1, so I decided to install it again
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And also, I installed that version of Windows Embedded 8.1 which is fully updated (well, I used the 10-2021 ISO cuz it's 3 GB), unlike the original ISO
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Which means the system won't brick if I have Aero Glass
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RostiTheGamer 10/09/2022 16:50
Guys I need help
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I tried to install dotNet Framework 3.5, but it does nothing
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What can I do?
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RostiTheGamer
I tried to install dotNet Framework 3.5, but it does nothing
wdym by nothing?
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RostiTheGamer 10/09/2022 16:53
I mean, I click "Turn on/off Windows Features and Components", but nothing happens. I am using the 2021-01 ISO of Windows Embedded 8.1
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Nvm, I found a solution
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All I had to do is enter "optionalfeatures" on the start menu, then run as Admin, and it worked!
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Now I can install dotNET Framework 3.5!
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Also, I will install a few games, cuz I often play Gmod
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Deleted User 10/09/2022 19:56
@ImSwordQueen Sorry for ping, but how do I change title bar text color?
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ImSwordQueen 10/09/2022 19:56
msstyles
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or glass8 GUI
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Deleted User 10/09/2022 19:57
alright thanks
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RostiTheGamer
Now I can install dotNET Framework 3.5!
i always just use the actual installer for 3.5
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WinDVD
i always just use the actual installer for 3.5
it doesnt work on 8.1 or whatever
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comes up with an error that tells you to install it from programs and features
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what i do is just integrate it into the iso
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It works on 10 lmao
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ImSwordQueen 10/09/2022 22:15
i just use dism and a 8.1 iso to install 3.5
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RostiTheGamer 11/09/2022 12:13
I accidentally deleted svchost.com and directx.sys and nothing runs!
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What do I do?
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 11/09/2022 12:16
sfc /scannow
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barisberat 11/09/2022 12:19
classic response
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RostiTheGamer 11/09/2022 12:36
Oh no
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I got a virus!
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It's Neshta virus, and I am trying to fix it
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it also fucked up the registry!
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Deformisani SAS 11/09/2022 12:54
L
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RostiTheGamer
it also fucked up the registry!
fuck the virus
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uhh
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wha
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lol
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RostiTheGamer 11/09/2022 13:48
Do not worry tho, I am removing the virus and fixing EXE's with Dr.Web's CureIt
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ImSwordQueen 11/09/2022 14:09
just reinstall windows at that point
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it's not worth it on the long run
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i know neshta.a
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i was infected by it once
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barisberat 11/09/2022 14:23
i know of surabaya instead
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no not the city
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the virus
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this bastard
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bro how do you manage to get these viruses
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after my neshta.a infection i reinstalled and reobtained everything and focused on safety
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barisberat 11/09/2022 14:39
i remember seeing xp computers in my old middle school in 5th or 6th grade that were infected with that
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i once managed to get myself that one too (with a 4gb usb stick that got borked as of now) (edited)
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RostiTheGamer 11/09/2022 15:01
I can't believe I got infected by Neshta.A!
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I got really unlucky...
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RostiTheGamer 11/09/2022 15:09
I hope I will be extremely careful next time
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I also deleted the infected EXEs
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I'm afraid that I downloaded something unsafe that caused this virus to appear
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RostiTheGamer 11/09/2022 15:21
I also found out that the executable icons are now in low quality, which means the EXEs are now infected
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That's not a good thing
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bro
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can you please use cracked game installers in VMs and not your main machine (edited)
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RostiTheGamer 11/09/2022 15:26
Update: turns out that StartIsBack+ (which I downloaded from 7themes) is the source of Neshta virus.
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Which means, this is definitely the source of this trouble!
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Where I can find the CLEAN one?
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Alright, you know what? I am reinstalling this system fully!
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okay...?
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RostiTheGamer 11/09/2022 15:31
I fucking hate that virus!
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okay
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RostiTheGamer 11/09/2022 15:31
I hope the same virus won't appear ever again...
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I think I got infected by Neshta virus in Windows 7, now the same virus in Windows 8.1!
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bro
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we get it
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you got infected by neshta virus
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calm down
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RostiTheGamer 11/09/2022 15:38
I guess only the EXEs are infected
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What a worst day for me.
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if you can take an exe, then get it infected, then compare the two in a hex editor, you may be able to repair them. but if it just fills them with garbage, maybe not
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and also check file modification dates on other types of files
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RostiTheGamer 11/09/2022 15:44
I thought that virus would not spread, but somehow it did
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i think he uses win7...
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Come again 😂 guy downloaded a shady SAB crack, and he's not even on Vista
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It's barely old to be an issue
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RostiTheGamer 11/09/2022 16:03
Good news: The drivers are not infected on my Windows 8.1 Install USB, so the hope is not lost!
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ImSwordQueen 11/09/2022 16:03
Imagine not pirating sab yourself
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Weak
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RostiTheGamer 11/09/2022 16:05
From now on, I will reinstall Windows (hopefully I won't catch the Neshta virus again and I will enable Windows defender)
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I was stupid, then I got that virus
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Next time, I will leave Windows Defender on, and I will be extreme careful while downloading something
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Also, I will use OpenShell instead of StartIsBack+ for safety
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RostiTheGamer 11/09/2022 16:20
And also, I will delete infected EXEs if there's any
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RostiTheGamer 11/09/2022 18:21
God, this virus is indeed deadly
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can you please use cracked game installers in VMs and not your main machine (edited)
Seconded. Test them in VMs first
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Yeah, seriously be more careful than that
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Never, ever run cracks on your main system without testing them in a VM
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RostiTheGamer 11/09/2022 18:26
Noted
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Disconnect those VMs from the internet, too
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Seconded. Test them in VMs first
they can go up at the end too
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thats why i said that
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Run the files through virustotal. Expect some false positives. But if every single one lights up, and they say ransomware or some other shit, discard of it
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rg mechanics are assholes who used to drop cryptomining malware at the end
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They didn't used to
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Run the files through virustotal. Expect some false positives. But if every single one lights up, and they say ransomware or some other shit, discard of it
RostiTheGamer 11/09/2022 18:28
That's why I am doing it
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I have some old rg cracks of things
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repacks
18:28
not cracks
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Yeah that's what I mean
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fitgirl is best
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fitgirl yeah
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RostiTheGamer 11/09/2022 18:28
The Aero Glass repack that Oofer_dww sent me a repack doesn't contain any viruses
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fitgirl is indeed the best
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Good
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RostiTheGamer
The Aero Glass repack that Oofer_dww sent me a repack doesn't contain any viruses
obviously it doesnt because i used that for 2 years
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Painter is good too
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RostiTheGamer 11/09/2022 18:29
Yep
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He is
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i sent painter v1.2.5 aeroglass
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That's what I use
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lol
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i get the game files from the repacks in VM then re-repack them and use them
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RostiTheGamer 11/09/2022 18:31
Also, Net Framework 3.5 doesn't want to download from Windows Update and throws an error
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just install it manually lmao
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RostiTheGamer 11/09/2022 18:31
How?
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.net framework 3.5 redistributable
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if its win8.1 run a program that runs on nf 3.5
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Oh Windows 8
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it will ask to install feature
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Go to programs and features
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Add features
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And yeah that too
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for some reason when i try add features
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it doesnt want to install
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but when there is software it decides to install
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I have that issue, but on 7
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Add features is just a white box 💀
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Time to talk about that tip again
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First of all, you need to have the install media on you still Run cmd as admin, then type in this command Dism /online /enable-feature /featurename:NetFx3 /All /Source:Install Media Letter:\sources\sxs /LimitAccess
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RostiTheGamer 11/09/2022 18:42
Alright, I got it to install!
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And yes, I will keep Windows Defender enabled
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barisberat 11/09/2022 19:57
in 8.1 install media, its a lot of folders (edited)
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in 10 or 11 install media, you only see 3 or so cab files (edited)
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T520 lives
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Board swapped, and 1080p m4800 screen in
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This thing looks 😳
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RostiTheGamer 12/09/2022 05:04
Thankfully, I did clean up my pendrives from viruses, and I deleted unused executables (just to be completely safe from that virus). And I will never download any suspicious repacks/cracks.
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And good news: The virus is gone!
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From now on, I will check any downloaded repacks with VirusTotal. Even Windows Defender will remove any suspicious EXE
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including this one:
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the problem is that i wrote it
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and it does nothing suspicious nor does it even request admin privileges. it just draws a bi flag to a ppm file!!
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Deformisani SAS 12/09/2022 05:13
protip. disable defender
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win32
the problem is that i wrote it
i guess with some esoteric combination of privileges it could theoretically overwrite ntoskrnl but you'd have to be enderman to do something like that
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Deformisani SAS
protip. disable defender
Deleted User 12/09/2022 05:37
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (edited)
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Deformisani SAS
protip. disable defender
^
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Pro tip: Don't unleash untested crackivators / repacks on your system
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Seriously, that could've gone much worse
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And don't become reliant on one scanners heuristics either
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They can return false positives as win32 demonstrated, or just fail to detect malicious software
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or just download from trustworthy sites
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like the r/piracy megathread
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RostiTheGamer 12/09/2022 06:21
Yea
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r/piracy is 100% trusted
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At least OpenShell is customizable too and it's open-source
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ImSwordQueen 12/09/2022 06:26
Legit
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You don't need pirated sib+ if you use 8.1
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As activation is broken
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And just goes in the negative
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ImSwordQueen
You don't need pirated sib+ if you use 8.1
RostiTheGamer 12/09/2022 06:32
Well, indeed
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But for now, I will just stick to Open-Shell
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At least Discord client loads again!
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The reason why it didn't load it's because of that virus
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But at least the reinstall fixed the issue. And I am glad that virus is finally gone
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Now I will be extra careful
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ImSwordQueen
As activation is broken
RostiTheGamer 12/09/2022 07:05
Also, how did ya know that activation is broken?
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RostiTheGamer 12/09/2022 13:15
Oh well
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From now on, I will only download repacks from trusted repackers and not from god-knows-what from unknown website (which might contain malicious repacks)
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And this is how to avoid that virus. Also, I cleaned my pendrive where the infected EXEs stored for extra safety. And also, I will check each installer for any virus via VirusTotal
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Lastly, installing Antivirus is the best solution to avoid viruses!
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Even Virtual Machines are useful to evade the viruses
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Also, how did ya know that activation is broken?
DeRosenberg 12/09/2022 13:37
He used it before I think
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or just download from trustworthy sites
Even torrent sites often have an uploader ranking system. The trusted ones are usually fine, but you should still tread with caution
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I prefer Open Shell myself
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I even use it on 7
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docR
Even torrent sites often have an uploader ranking system. The trusted ones are usually fine, but you should still tread with caution
RostiTheGamer 12/09/2022 13:48
Good point
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docR
I prefer Open Shell myself
RostiTheGamer 12/09/2022 13:48
Also, me too
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 12/09/2022 13:49
i like the start screen
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Start Screen if it had mouse gestures would be nice
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But Microsoft isn't very forward thinking lol
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Who needs a touch centric UI without gestures? feelscringeman
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Does look cool, though
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it has touchpad gestures tho
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I tried swiping up and down to bring up the all apps menu
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Maybe there are some gestures, but they're primitive if not abysmal
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yeah its not macOS level of good but they are there
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RostiTheGamer 12/09/2022 16:12
Welp, I installed an antivirus on my Windows 8.1 Machine, and now I will be extra protected!
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RostiTheGamer 12/09/2022 17:09
And yea, I will now download repacks from only trusted sources from Piracy Megathread, not from some site that I found on Google
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Now I learned my lesson
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I still wish Windows had a touchpad gesture to open the start menu
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like 3 finger swipe up could be the start menu gesture
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while 4 fingers open the multitasking view
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I mean yes
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but I almost never use the Windows key to open the start menu
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if I press it I'm doing it for the search
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if I want to launch an app by using the mouse I click the start button
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I don't like a full taskbar
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just messes me up
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I just have file explorer, edge and discord
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cause those 3 are always open
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none of my PCs have any app links on the desktop
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the desktop is what I call a work table, keep only what I need currently on it
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start search was so good until they fucked it with bing
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if it were implemented good maybe
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RostiTheGamer 12/09/2022 18:54
I feel so proud after I installed an antivirus!
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I even got rid of that pesky virus
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antivirus is a virus
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no antivirus is guaranteed to protect you from all malware
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that and if youve downloaded it for free there is a possible chance it could be collecting data from you or straight up mining crypto off your pc
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just do not download fishy stuff off the internet that you dont trust. simple as
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with a brain and a bit of common sense you could run win 2k and surf modern internet just fine
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RostiTheGamer 12/09/2022 20:11
Fishy stuff only on VMs (edited)
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And I understood that I should not download fishy stuff. And yes, I only download repacks from trusted ones, like Fitgirl
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And yea, on NNM-Club, 1337x.to and RuTracker there are moderators. Which means the torrents are perfectly moderated
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with a brain and a bit of common sense you could run win 2k and surf modern internet just fine
Seconded
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And yea, I will now download repacks from only trusted sources from Piracy Megathread, not from some site that I found on Google
Betajyst4094 12/09/2022 20:46
You should generally be very selective of torrent repacks and etc
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dont use windows trol
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That's called not using Windows
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My only computer that's the most legit activation wise is the TC1100, cause the rest are fully 100% pirated.
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 13/09/2022 04:54
100% piracy on everything i own
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except the 7 install on my laptop
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actually no all my 7 pro installs are legit
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barisberat 13/09/2022 05:01
it uses kms activation too
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 13/09/2022 05:22
i bought a 20 dollar copy of windows 10 once
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or 13 dollars
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can't remember
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lost the key to it after a couple months and losing a pc it was installed on as well
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County
lost the key to it after a couple months and losing a pc it was installed on as well
Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 13/09/2022 05:23
this was the last time i had ever installed windows 10 myself
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since then the only copies i've had were preinstalled
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Betajyst4094
You should generally be very selective of torrent repacks and etc
Betajyst has spoken
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i never paid for windows
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ever
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barisberat 13/09/2022 13:01
especially since isos for windows 10 and 11 are provided FOR FREE by MICROSOFT themselves through media creation tool (edited)
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insider builds also apply here
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including server builds
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afaik they have 8 and 7 isos as well
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ImSwordQueen 13/09/2022 13:23
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too unrealistic. taskbar didn't have open apps
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ImSwordQueen
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Deformisani SAS 13/09/2022 13:27
use a never version of firefox with classic theme restorer extension (54.0.1 is recommended for the extension)
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and just change the firefox icon
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ImSwordQueen 13/09/2022 13:27
but why
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literally i don't need to load modern websites
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works better
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ImSwordQueen 13/09/2022 13:28
literally why
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Deformisani SAS 13/09/2022 13:28
idk
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ImSwordQueen 13/09/2022 13:28
i don't need modern websites
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also when was that theme made
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if it's over 2012 then it's no good
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Deformisani SAS 13/09/2022 13:29
over 2012?
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ImSwordQueen 13/09/2022 13:29
everything made after 2012
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Deformisani SAS 13/09/2022 13:29
i think this version of the extension was last updated in 2017
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you can customise the shit out of the extension and the firefox looks
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ImSwordQueen 13/09/2022 13:30
ok tell
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me why i need it
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on a 2012 vm
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Deformisani SAS 13/09/2022 13:30
basically brings this for example onto a newer version of firefox (note that this extension does not work on the latest firefox)
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ImSwordQueen 13/09/2022 13:30
loading modern websites on modern firefox?
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i don't fucking need modern websites
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Deformisani SAS 13/09/2022 13:30
ok
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 13/09/2022 13:31
you are a trrrible salesman
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afaik they have 8 and 7 isos as well
barisberat 13/09/2022 15:12
about windows 7 isos every iso is 2018-08 except for professional x64, apparently the install.wim file there is modified in november 2018 instead (edited)
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i use that iso with a few patches
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ImSwordQueen
too unrealistic. taskbar didn't have open apps
my desktop in 2014 basically escept win7 instead of win8
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Deleted User 14/09/2022 14:24
Windows Embedded Next
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Scamdisk
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ImSwordQueen 14/09/2022 14:39
standard right?
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yes, Embedded = Embedded Standard
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yet the state i got it to stage in is well, starter but not starter
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ImSwordQueen 14/09/2022 14:40
i wonder what build actually changed the branding to embedded next
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9431 has this same branding
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tho it could be even earlier
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Well i had to work around the fact the Embedded Features package was incomplete
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so i just replaced that with client features
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Which resulted in this sadder starter state
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ImSwordQueen 14/09/2022 14:42
it's timebombed too i see
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so basically
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starter but more sad
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Deleted User 15/09/2022 15:31
@ImSwordQueen what happens to startisback when trial thing expires
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ImSwordQueen 15/09/2022 15:32
+ doesn't deactivate
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And goes to negative
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Normal will deactivate and disable recent programs
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And nag you
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++ will have sad face
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Deleted User 15/09/2022 15:33
wdym nag you
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ImSwordQueen 15/09/2022 15:33
It will open at every startup
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Deleted User 15/09/2022 15:33
popup?
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turn into malware?
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ImSwordQueen 15/09/2022 15:34
It's just the configurator opening
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At the activation page
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Deleted User 15/09/2022 15:34
can you remove it?
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i want to make a custom windows iso
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ImSwordQueen 15/09/2022 15:35
Trials are user based
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So if you make a custom iso
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It will reset anyway
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just crack it like windows 9 mod
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lol
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ImSwordQueen 15/09/2022 15:37
That's sib+
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Not sib
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this is just sib?
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still crackable
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ImSwordQueen 15/09/2022 15:37
The 9 mod is based on 8.1
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Not 8.0
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ik
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ImSwordQueen 15/09/2022 15:37
Sib+ doesn't need to be activated
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thought it was +
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ImSwordQueen 15/09/2022 15:37
As it will go into negative days
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And would still work
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oofer_dww
just crack it like windows 9 mod
Deleted User 15/09/2022 15:38
i want to share it, so i dont want pirated software
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ImSwordQueen 15/09/2022 15:38
With no nags
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Deleted User
can you remove it?
pirated software literally
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Deleted User 15/09/2022 15:39
but i want to share my custom windows iso
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fine i will use sib+
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bc i will add activator script too
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ImSwordQueen 15/09/2022 15:40
If you are using 8.0
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Then you only have normal
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8.1 is sib+
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And 10 sib++
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MS may change the way Windows works to the 10X-like style
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meaning no leftovers to use
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bruh please dont pull a tyl here (edited)
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8.1 is sib+
Deleted User 15/09/2022 15:42
i will use 8.1 embedded
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just use windows 9 then
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lol
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the Embedded 8.1 mod or the 9834 mod trol
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oofer_dww
just use windows 9 then
Deleted User 15/09/2022 15:43
i want to make my own iso
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i dont see your point in making another win8.1 embedded mod
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you could have just used pirate sib on 8.0
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ImSwordQueen 15/09/2022 15:44
Or
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Use ex7forw8
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yes
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tihiy is someone who doesnt deserve money anyway
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ImSwordQueen 15/09/2022 15:45
Only downside there is more uac prompts and no metro
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oofer_dww
tihiy is someone who doesnt deserve money anyway
ImSwordQueen 15/09/2022 15:45
Why?
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oofer_dww
i dont see your point in making another win8.1 embedded mod
Deleted User 15/09/2022 15:45
lightweight windows 8.1
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ImSwordQueen
Why?
petty lawsuits
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ImSwordQueen 15/09/2022 15:45
To who
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iirc we talked about it here before
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ImSwordQueen 15/09/2022 15:48
We didn't
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Deleted User 15/09/2022 17:26
How do I activate 8.1 using a script or whatever
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@Scamdisk
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i need to activate embedded 8.1 industry pro
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whyyy
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Deleted User 15/09/2022 17:46
sorry for ping
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Embedded Industry Pro should be GVLKEmbeddedIndustry
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Deleted User 15/09/2022 17:46
thanks
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how do i use it
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well the kms key that is
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slmgr /ipk the kms key for EmbeddedIndustry
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Deleted User 15/09/2022 17:47
dat it?
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You also need to set a kms server
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slmgr /skms kms server here
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Deleted User 15/09/2022 17:48
and?
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then slmgr /ato
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Deleted User 15/09/2022 17:48
ok thanks
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and it should activate
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Deleted User 15/09/2022 17:49
thx a lot
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Deleted User 15/09/2022 17:58
@Scamdisk
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Did you set a kms server
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Deleted User 15/09/2022 17:58
yes
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kms.digiboy.ir
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lemme try another
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kms8.msguides.com
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Deleted User 15/09/2022 18:00
OH
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didnt make the files properly lol
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oops
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thanks for kms server
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THANKS!!!!!
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Deleted User 15/09/2022 18:15
@ImSwordQueen u know how i get rid of winstore?
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and onedrive
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cant uninstall them
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ImSwordQueen 15/09/2022 18:17
Remove the shortcuts
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Deleted User 15/09/2022 18:17
don't you delete the windows store from c:/windows?
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ImSwordQueen 15/09/2022 18:17
And filemanager for onedrive
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Winstore is a little tricky
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As deleting it would nuke all apps
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8.0 is fine without store, 8.1 is where it goes haywire
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still questioning the reasoning behind making photos, camera and onedrive system apps
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ImSwordQueen 15/09/2022 18:20
For winstore remove all the resources except WinstoreUI.dll WSHost.exe WSSLs.dll WinstoreUI.WinMD pris en-us appxmanifest.xml appxblockmap.xml appxsignature.p7x and resources.pri
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And Microsoft.system.package.metadata
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Without these
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Start screen commits die
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And would break other shit
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For winstore remove all the resources except WinstoreUI.dll WSHost.exe WSSLs.dll WinstoreUI.WinMD pris en-us appxmanifest.xml appxblockmap.xml appxsignature.p7x and resources.pri
Deleted User 15/09/2022 18:21
But how do I know which resources to delete
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what folder
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ex7forw8 for 8.1, coming: never
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ImSwordQueen 15/09/2022 18:22
winstore folder
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Literally you said the folder before
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ex7forw8 for 8.1, coming: never
ImSwordQueen 15/09/2022 18:22
Unless you make it redirect all dlls to clones trol
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but then again, the only reason that doesnt work on 8.1 is due to well, leftovers been gone from shell32
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Deleted User 15/09/2022 18:23
based
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Not very stable on 9299 tho
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Crashes after a bit
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on 9271 however
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yeah it works perfectly on that
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Deleted User 15/09/2022 20:18
@Scamdisk sorry for ping but how do i make a wim image out of a full windows installation from windows 8.1
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I tried this but it didn't work (yes i have both drives)
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(and yes they are positioned as they are
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nvm but nvm
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/Capture-Image
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not capture-image
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Deleted User 15/09/2022 20:26
ah
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ImSwordQueen 15/09/2022 20:30
Missing the space in d:\ and /name
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Deleted User 15/09/2022 20:30
how do i type it out then
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pls
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i will probably do smth wrong
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@ImSwordQueen pls i have to go to sleep soon
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ImSwordQueen 15/09/2022 20:31
Literally put a space
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Deleted User 15/09/2022 20:31
what about /name
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ImSwordQueen 15/09/2022 20:31
You typed
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Deleted User 15/09/2022 20:32
type the full command
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ImSwordQueen 15/09/2022 20:32
d:\/name (edited)
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Ok fucker removed \
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Deleted User 15/09/2022 20:32
just type the whole command how it should go
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ImSwordQueen 15/09/2022 20:32
You have to put a space there
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By pressing the spacebar
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Deleted User 15/09/2022 20:33
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20:38
I have to go.
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literally troll
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ImSwordQueen 15/09/2022 20:38
There's no d:\ path
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 15/09/2022 22:07
i hate people who take a picture of an error message and ask for help without reading it
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THE SYSTEM CANNOT FIND THE FILE SPECIFIED!!!
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FIGURE OUT WHERE THE FILE IS
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CHECK THE PATH!!!
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Deleted User 16/09/2022 14:00
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I did it
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I made my own custom Windows 8.1 ISO
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Good it works
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Deleted User 16/09/2022 14:12
Only issue is space ☠
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I did disk cleanup, deleted %temp%, temp and SoftwareDistribution folders and it is still like this
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I did disk cleanup, deleted %temp%, temp and SoftwareDistribution folders and it is still like this
try dism component cleanup
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it takes a while but may yield good results
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Deleted User 16/09/2022 14:12
huh
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I should
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How do I do it
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dism.exe /online /cleanup-image /startcomponentcleanup (as admin) (edited)
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it deletes old and unneeded files from winsxs
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Deleted User 16/09/2022 14:14
Alright thanks
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Deleted User 16/09/2022 15:20
@skip any other way? this freed up a few gigs but is there any other trick you know?
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windows is still 12gb
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try using bleachbit?
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but really 20 gigs for a windows c drive is very little
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skip
try using bleachbit?
Deleted User 16/09/2022 15:24
whats dat
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skip
but really 20 gigs for a windows c drive is very little
Deleted User 16/09/2022 15:24
some ppl will use this on low end pcs
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Deleted User
whats dat
open source ccleaner alternative without adware
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Deleted User 16/09/2022 15:25
k found bleachbit
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for linux and windows
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some ppl will use this on low end pcs
i mean ideally you would run an os with updates
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on a low end pc i would just use xp
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if it cant run 8 with updates
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Deleted User 16/09/2022 15:29
only 300mb freed up
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(idk how to change the language
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Done.
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Gdrive is even slower last time I tried
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Try Brave browser too (I disabled all Brave telemetry)
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Deformisani SAS 16/09/2022 18:46
16:10 monitor?
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pretty close i guess.
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16:10 monitor?
Deleted User 16/09/2022 18:47
nah just vm in windowed (edited)
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Deformisani SAS 16/09/2022 18:47
oh
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Try Brave browser too (I disabled all Brave telemetry)
why use chromium when you can have fifox
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troll
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Deleted User 16/09/2022 19:06
UPLOAD/ SPEED OF IT IS SO SLOW
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how do i fix it
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noted you did include it
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UPLOAD/ SPEED OF IT IS SO SLOW
never had that issue so i dunno lol
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Deleted User 16/09/2022 19:06
I think it is because of Install.wim
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then again my upload speed is naturally slow lol
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Deleted User 16/09/2022 19:08
Mine is not
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high speed
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Deleted User 16/09/2022 19:09
Like, the iso takes forever to upload
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i mean it should be quick
19:10
its compressed via ISO right?
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so individual files shouldn't be an issue (i think?
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its compressed via ISO right?
Deleted User 16/09/2022 19:35
i just dragged in the install.wim into the iso
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into the sources folde
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r
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Deformisani SAS 16/09/2022 19:44
firefox upload speed and stuff is much faster for me than on edge/chrome
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ImSwordQueen 16/09/2022 19:57
interesting. the "app preview" tag is part of the splash screen
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and not separate
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I did it
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Had to use Chromium to upload because Firefox 88 does not upload
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Deleted User 17/09/2022 20:38
I give up on my ISO
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if someone can give me a fancy way of making a staged wim out of a windows install pls ping me
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Deleted User 19/09/2022 11:19
LESS GOOOOO
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Deleted User 19/09/2022 11:22
takes like 20 mins to install but it is blazing fast
11:22
cant wait to try it on my laptop lter (im in school rn)
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Deformisani SAS 19/09/2022 12:21
wait when do you go to school?
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cuz i just got home
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cant wait to try it on my laptop lter (im in school rn)
dude just installed windows embedded 8 on a school PC 💀
pepe_based 2
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dude just installed windows embedded 8 on a school PC 💀
Deleted User 19/09/2022 13:13
nah i did this on main before i went to school lmao
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but tht would of been funny if no one found out
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Deleted User 19/09/2022 17:23
@ImSwordQueen what happens if i disable wsstore service in msconfig in windows 8.1
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ImSwordQueen 19/09/2022 17:24
idk
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Deleted User 19/09/2022 17:24
i will make a snapshot
17:25
still working
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ImSwordQueen 19/09/2022 19:54
bad shot but
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app preview trol
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Deleted User 20/09/2022 09:30
I reset my custom ISO project, but there is no diffrence except less stuff has been done, for example in last attempt i thought of using admin account as main but then i disabled it, now i dont have that stuff
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Downloads for building and running applications with .NET Framework 4.8.1 . Get web installer, offline installer, and language pack downloads for .NET Framework.
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Ah shit here we go again
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ImSwordQueen 20/09/2022 19:12
?
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testing the funny patch for 8.0?
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oh....
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i see now....
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Does it have any 8.0 cab in there
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Or is it only 10/11 cabs
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cant check rn
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ImSwordQueen 20/09/2022 19:14
i will check
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ImSwordQueen 20/09/2022 19:22
i don't see any cabs @Scamdisk
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i'm using the online installer though
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so i will check the offline one rn
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use the offline one
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it should have them
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ImSwordQueen 20/09/2022 19:23
bad news
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only 10/11
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Guess they fixed my funny loophole by not supporting anything below 1607?
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ImSwordQueen 20/09/2022 19:24
i guess so
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i don't see any cabs related to anything older than 10
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guess rip then
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ImSwordQueen 20/09/2022 19:24
4.8 is the last one for pre-10
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welp that's disappointing
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guessing vs is no longer gonna support pre-1607 now (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 20/09/2022 19:26
waiting for paint.net to update to not support 8.1 anymore
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:oh:
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Don't see anything pre-20H2 relating to 4.8.1 on the update catalog
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inb4 they cut the previous 2 LTSB/LTSC releases to get people to upgrade
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ImSwordQueen 20/09/2022 19:29
ah shit
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so basically
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anything older than vibrashit is out
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:doom:
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ImSwordQueen 20/09/2022 19:31
yep @Scamdisk
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no mention of pre shitanium
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lies
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lies
ImSwordQueen 20/09/2022 19:44
wouldn't be all lies if they use net 4.8.1 (edited)
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thats it
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switching to net 4.8.1 and saying they cant do it for older OS anymore cuz its hard is the lie (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 20/09/2022 20:11
yep
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that makes more sense
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 20/09/2022 22:01
"so hard to maintain for 7!" bro just develop it like you've been doing since 2009 not hard at apl
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all*
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Doesn't paint.net use .net core nowadays
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Deleted User 21/09/2022 06:19
eh even the last xp version has all good fetures
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should archive it
06:20
some 3.5 verison
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3.5 doesnt have a lot of features too
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it misses on being able to adjust the RADIUS of a rounded rectangle
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fucking basic ass
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Deleted User 21/09/2022 06:42
what
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i used paint.net 3.5 and it was fine
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 21/09/2022 16:36
3.5. sucks
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last vista version toi
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Deleted User 21/09/2022 20:01
4.0.11 based, final great version
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32-bit support, proper icons, better performance and runs on anything even 32-bit oses
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Anything newer is shit
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 21/09/2022 22:37
i love 64 bit
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the latest version of paint.net to run on 7 is the best
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County
i love 64 bit
Deleted User 22/09/2022 19:23
who needs more than 4gb ram
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i dont
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who needs more than 4gb ram
ImSwordQueen 22/09/2022 19:32
i do
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ImSwordQueen
i do
Deleted User 22/09/2022 19:36
wtf how u get that
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ImSwordQueen 22/09/2022 19:37
running vms and mc
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Deleted User 22/09/2022 19:37
so u running vms now?
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ImSwordQueen 22/09/2022 19:37
yeah?
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Deleted User 22/09/2022 19:38
ah thats why
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ImSwordQueen 22/09/2022 19:38
it's still more than 4gb
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Deleted User 22/09/2022 19:38
i can give 2gb to vm and it will run fine
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ImSwordQueen 22/09/2022 19:38
so your point is invalid
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without a vm but still having mc on i still have 5gb used (edited)
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Deleted User 22/09/2022 20:08
💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀
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barisberat 22/09/2022 20:08
not even ddr something, its "other" now
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Deleted User 22/09/2022 20:08
cringe
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cringe
barisberat 22/09/2022 20:10
do you even have "other" ram?
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like task manager doesnt wanna say ddr something
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just "other"
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Deleted User 22/09/2022 20:11
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barisberat 22/09/2022 20:11
meh
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drifting disk device
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ddd
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3D
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meh
Deleted User 22/09/2022 20:13
tf u mean meh initial d only good anime /jk (edited)
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 22/09/2022 20:20
wait, actual Japanese readability or just using Japanese for the lols before switching it bacc? (edited)
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
wait, actual Japanese readability or just using Japanese for the lols before switching it bacc? (edited)
barisberat 22/09/2022 20:31
i know windows very well, i can use it in japanese if i add a second keyboard layout to use
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cuz the default there is always "microsoft ime"
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 22/09/2022 20:31
tbh I would switch to Japanese as an additional language, but... I'd rather learn all the letters and shit enough to memorise and read them first. (edited)
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though I have already pre-emptively installed Japanese onto Feren OS in case that day comes. 🤞🏻
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do you even have "other" ram?
bruh, so many things wrong with this 1. 2gb ram in 2022 2. japanese windows hurts eyes
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baris please upgrade ram this is cringe
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barisberat 22/09/2022 20:35
logic moment
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Deformisani SAS 22/09/2022 20:39
i use windows with 4gb ram and its fine
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bruh, so many things wrong with this 1. 2gb ram in 2022 2. japanese windows hurts eyes
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 22/09/2022 20:41
2. not really.
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It's Windows, not a 16-bit- game
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4gb ram is fine
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but 2?
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bruh
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2. not really.
2. yes really.
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barisberat 22/09/2022 21:10
does the language blare your eyes
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its writing does when its everywhere
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i mean like in batches in some settings page etc.
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but 2?
Deformisani SAS 22/09/2022 21:22
i used 2 gb ram. it was ok ish.
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barisberat 22/09/2022 21:28
i agree, at least it could run windows 10
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or 11
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does the language blare your eyes
Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 22/09/2022 21:53
japanese looks funny
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Deformisani SAS 22/09/2022 21:59
i used windows 10 with 2 gb ram for many years
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11 once with 2 gb and it was stable. once with 1gb and it was slow as hell
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VM in 2gb ram pctroll
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Deformisani SAS 22/09/2022 22:32
its actually usable (edited)
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you would probably be using xp with that amount of ram in a pc.
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i used xp on my 2gb ram pc
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because really thats what needs to be done on a 2gb ram pc
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Deformisani SAS 22/09/2022 22:34
i used 2 gb ram in windows xp (real hardware) and it was okay
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although the cpu and gpu in the xp machine that i have suck dicks
22:34
the cpu on it is overclocked at 1.75 ghz which is nice
22:35
but the agp card is a nightmare.
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it runs half life 2 at max settings flawlessly. gta sa (somehow) runs not so great on max settings
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even vice city which i wasn't expecting
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also i know that this is the wrong channel
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bro
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i had a q35 chipset
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integrated
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now that is a real nightmare for you
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Deformisani SAS
11 once with 2 gb and it was stable. once with 1gb and it was slow as hell
Deleted User 23/09/2022 05:16
even on a hard drive it ran fine for me lmao (when i used it on my laptop)
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only booting is slow as hell
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win11 21h2
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Deformisani SAS 23/09/2022 06:18
i used the leaked build last year with 2 gb ram
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Deleted User 23/09/2022 09:27
Might finish my 64 bit ISO today, throat no longer hurts!
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Deleted User 23/09/2022 11:07
@Scamdisk ie 11
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you fucked it up
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sigh
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Scamdisk
you fucked it up
Deleted User 23/09/2022 11:09
fucked up what
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why doesnt it uninstall
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Deleted User 23/09/2022 11:27
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oofer_dww
because really thats what needs to be done on a 2gb ram pc
barisberat 23/09/2022 12:56
by your logic any computer that has 2gb of ram must run XP
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and not something like windows 10 (edited)
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literally all you need to do is to disable windows defender (edited)
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that makes it a bit more usable
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literally all you need to do is debloat win10 to oblivion and then use it
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barisberat 23/09/2022 13:11
get this, some apps are dropping support for 7, they already did with xp/vista
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.net framework 4.8.1 only supports windows 10 vb and up, paint.net 5 will only support recent windows 10 and 11 versions etc. (edited)
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barisberat 23/09/2022 14:02
who wants to use cli only
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bruh
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or just use a lightweight window manager
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i have been using an old travelmate with a 1.7 ghz single core celeron m and 2 gigs of ram for some light stuff (debian with openbox) (edited)
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works okay
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barisberat 23/09/2022 14:04
theres already a cli only windows
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windows server core
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everything runs on cmd
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do i look like a long bearded thinkpad-using gentoo-praising fatass dwelling in his moms basement to be living in a terminal (edited)
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barisberat 23/09/2022 14:05
or late 2000s-early 2010s cpu
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one says use windows xp other says use cli linux (edited)
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all you need is modern apps
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cli linux sucks
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literally all you need to do is debloat win10 to oblivion and then use it
I like Revi for that task. Any time I've tried to de-bloat it by hand, something ends up funny
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But yes, it's basically 8 without its theme engine once nuked a few times
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I've been experimenting with Windowblinds with good results. I'll show later
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Still not as polished as 8.1, though. Never will be
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wasnt there also an alternative like revios
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i forgot the name
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That's on 21h2, Revi specifically
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This is how I see it with. With 10, you have to lock it down and use it in a static state. If you one day need a newer build, reinstall it
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The update policy is just not usable
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Strip it out entirely, and it's okay
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I'll share everything I've done, once I finish it
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Deleted User 23/09/2022 16:42
bc of windows vista ui works with uwp settings, it can be ported on windows vista
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Deleted User
bc of windows vista ui works with uwp settings, it can be ported on windows vista
what
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Come again?
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You mean the Aero frames in UWP?
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Yeah it looks okay. Fortunately it's just the settings. I made it uwp-less otherwise
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i dunno, that quick launch do be looking kinda fucked
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ImSwordQueen 23/09/2022 19:24
it's going to heaven
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RostiTheGamer 24/09/2022 18:10
So uh, Windows 8.1 is indeed useful if I am about to switch to Windows 10 after I get a new PC
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Since Windows 10 uses some 8.1 elements
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#RadMorning 24/09/2022 18:16
Sooo.... are you saying you'll stay on Windows 8.1 or move to Windows 10?
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RostiTheGamer 24/09/2022 18:22
Well, I'll stay on Windows 8.1 until I get a new PC
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Well, I'll stay on Windows 8.1 until I get a new PC
Deformisani SAS 24/09/2022 19:02
stay on windows 8.1. don't use 10
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RostiTheGamer 24/09/2022 19:12
But I'm not sure if the new PC can support 8.1
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Since I need drivers for that
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barisberat 24/09/2022 20:05
programs like paint.net will yank the windows 7 and 8.1 support out (in the case of paint.net, it will happen at version 5 or maybe 4.4) (edited)
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But I'm not sure if the new PC can support 8.1
Deleted User 24/09/2022 20:36
what will be new pc
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 24/09/2022 21:00
this looks so offputting
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Deformisani SAS 24/09/2022 23:07
that looks terrible
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 24/09/2022 23:20
nothing more than an intense design clash (edited)
23:20
looks fine
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
this looks so offputting
Deleted User 25/09/2022 01:03
So beautiful and it even works on windows 7
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jk
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
this looks so offputting
surprised that the latest Office 365 still works on Windows 8
08:59
I decided to rename V3 version of 32 bit to no V version and V2 to no version because both are mostly stable now
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both have most of the features and they run very very fast
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also disabled stuff like windows update and all because resources
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also disabled stuff like windows update and all because resources
yea u dont really need windows updates to stay safe
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u just need common sense its all that saves you from malware
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^
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yea u dont really need windows updates to stay safe
Deleted User 25/09/2022 09:51
only updates installed are kb2919422 and kb2919355
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only updates installed are kb2919422 and kb2919355
what are those
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what are those
Deleted User 25/09/2022 09:59
first one some security update idk and another one is update 1
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that first one needs to be installed before update 1
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well idk im using fully updated 8.1 industry pro and im ok with the performance
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most of the resources is taken up by the apps i use which is good
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Deleted User 25/09/2022 10:00
ye u either have good hardware or dont use it daily
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sometimes the update checker or antivirus may screw up the performance like cpu or disk usage
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Deleted User
ye u either have good hardware or dont use it daily
its a crappy 2007 core 2 duo and 4 gb of ddr2 ram
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Deleted User 25/09/2022 10:00
that u dont daily
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Deleted User 25/09/2022 10:00
actually thats not bad
10:00
4gb ram
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well i use it often but its not my main pc
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im using it rn in bed
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surprised that the latest Office 365 still works on Windows 8
Deleted User 25/09/2022 11:38
It’s windows 7
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Windows 8 is out of suppor so office 2019 won’t work on Asian computer
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hope you aint doing crack
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ImSwordQueen 25/09/2022 12:03
it's out of suppor 💀
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he forgor 💀
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Deleted User
Windows 8 is out of suppor so office 2019 won’t work on Asian computer
Deleted User 25/09/2022 12:03
what
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oh u mean 8.0
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ye
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ImSwordQueen 25/09/2022 12:04
also office 365 on 8.0 still works
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Deleted User
It’s windows 7
no lol its 8 with a win7 theme
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Deleted User
It’s windows 7
Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 25/09/2022 15:00
hey read the channel name
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Deleted User
It’s windows 7
Deleted User 25/09/2022 17:41
Literally says Build 9600
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7 is 7601
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or 7600 if you somehow use RTM
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Don't be snarky here. Also, it's fine dw about it
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ImSwordQueen 30/09/2022 18:03
me: i want windows 8
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my mom: we already have windows 8 at home
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ImSwordQueen 30/09/2022 18:03
windows 8:
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that prototype metro ui in the thumbnail looks kinda cool imo
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reminds me of rainmeter
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 02/10/2022 06:29
can anyone with copies of a ton of early 8.0 builds tell me which one was the first to have wallpaperhost.exe
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non server: 7814
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 02/10/2022 06:52
i love you
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could you throw me a copy of it?
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testing to see if it'll run on 7
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okay hold on
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 02/10/2022 06:53
(wallpaperhost is very useful, it's the wallpaper setting part of explorer minus the explorer)
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(super useful with alternative shells that don't manage it at all (early progman) or very well (current progman))
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 02/10/2022 06:53
i believe it works
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only one way to test
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the way to test doesn't work because progman's too good at re-setting the wallpaper
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time to set default shell to winfile
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does not work
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damn
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not in the way i expected atleast
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DeRosenberg 06/10/2022 11:47
I'm fucking tired of Windows 8
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Every fucking day I get a BSOD because memory management like I don't fucking know how
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Now I wanna move to Windows 7
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you'll get stuff like that on win8 on various machines
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 06/10/2022 20:34
use vista
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DeRosenberg
Every fucking day I get a BSOD because memory management like I don't fucking know how
Deleted User 06/10/2022 21:03
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never got bsod
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Click to see attachment 🖼️
he's prob using 8.0
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Deleted User 06/10/2022 21:05
ah
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DeRosenberg 06/10/2022 21:12
yeah
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DeRosenberg
I'm fucking tired of Windows 8
Then don’t use it damnbro there’s other oses out there
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 07/10/2022 15:47
windows vista
👍 3
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i found one yay
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Deleted User 09/10/2022 07:48
lol
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 09/10/2022 22:57
I've made one of the possibly most poggers discoveries for Personalisation:
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Put this into your UIFILE for themecpl.dll, over the respective code: <Button resid="ThemeGalleryTheme" sheet="PersonalizationHubStyle" class="ThemeButton" accstate="0x00100000" layout="VerticalFlowLayout(0,2,2,2)" tooltip="true"> <Element id="atom(Thumbnail)"/> <Element id="atom(Name)" layoutpos="none"/> </Button>
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and enjoy: 6608-styled Personalisation (edited)
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@docR
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Does this give you 6801 colors rather than the 7 ones?
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🤨
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it gives you a 6608-styled personalization page
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I like RTM better, in this case
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i dont like how theme names were not displayed in 6801
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
I've made one of the possibly most poggers discoveries for Personalisation:
Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 10/10/2022 03:21
personalization *
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brother its 6608
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Not 6801
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Oh, my bad
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I thought 6608 and 6801 used the same personalization style?
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Does this give you 6801 colors rather than the 7 ones?
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 10/10/2022 13:16
No, that's another mod entirely.
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(Though you do get Windows Vista's window colours in the TP this mod is in)
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(unless you go for DS!Delta, in which case Vista Beta 2's window colours instead)
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ImSwordQueen 17/10/2022 20:02
windows 8.0.9 flush
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ImSwordQueen 22/10/2022 21:53
apparently microsoft broke wifi on 8.0
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as trying to connect to a wifi network just fails
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ImSwordQueen
apparently microsoft broke wifi on 8.0
barisberat 22/10/2022 21:56
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--imswordking, 2022
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ImSwordQueen 22/10/2022 21:57
ok now explorer bootloops
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well now it's about figuring out which updates do it
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do they just shove 8.1 updates on 8.0 without testing what they actually do or what
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8.0 seems fucked
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ImSwordQueen 23/10/2022 08:22
@Scamdisk the 2021-02 iso doesn't have the problem
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So you only got 10 updates that can have the problem
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we know 2021-03, 2021-04 and 2022-05 have the wallpaper bug
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also so far no updates that bring in the wallpaper bug after 2022-05
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Servers and Embedded systems don't use wifi so guess they broke it by accident and decided that they won't fix it
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just like with the wallpaper bug
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oh so you fuck with the esus for server os
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makes sense
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Server 2012 is still supported lmao
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yeah both Server 2012s have the same lifecycle because MS moment
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ImSwordQueen 23/10/2022 16:42
amd 😢 😢 😢 😢 😢 😢 😢
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this driver makes it go to the desktop
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then it crashes
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Hu Ma Gawd 24/10/2022 07:38
Anyone have a way of bypassing the unsupported hardware thing that appears on kaby lake in windows update for 8.1?
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@Hu Ma Gawd
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Hu Ma Gawd 24/10/2022 07:46
I think I have that installed already, but I’ll redownload from that link and see
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Does not work
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ImSwordQueen 24/10/2022 08:19
Damn
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I guess you can disable windows update
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wusa and dism should still work (edited)
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unless they show the same prompt
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or you could just
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use linux
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and win10 ltsc
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linux alone should be enough
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create vm for windows if you really need it
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Hu Ma Gawd
Does not work
barisberat 24/10/2022 18:39
"unsupported hardware"
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get ready for windows 10
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skip
use linux
ImSwordQueen 24/10/2022 18:48
skip. please don't become a femboy
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linux != femboy
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"The Linux Community" = femboy
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However
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The Linux Community = mostly toxic
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yes
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and win10 ltsc
Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 24/10/2022 19:04
fuck 10
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oofer_dww
"The Linux Community" = femboy
ImSwordQueen 24/10/2022 19:05
but if you install linux you have to join the linux community
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ImSwordQueen
but if you install linux you have to join the linux community
no you dont
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first you have to be a redditor
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only then can you join the linux community
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ImSwordQueen 24/10/2022 19:51
unironically 10 ran like shit on my craptop
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meanwhile 8.1 ran amazing
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and it was ltsc so fuck 10
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ImSwordQueen 24/10/2022 21:38
Sounds like in denial
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Of service
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 24/10/2022 22:38
contradictory statement
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Hu Ma Gawd 25/10/2022 01:07
^^
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Hu Ma Gawd 25/10/2022 03:21
it was an iso issue
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also wufuc just doesn't work anymore
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I reinstalled with imswordking's iso and used WuaCpuFix
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but if you install linux you have to join the linux community
i hate linux communities
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theyre all very toxic
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the only friendly one is like
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the linux mint forums
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and bunsenlabs forums
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bunsenlabs is an awesome distro
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Hu Ma Gawd
it was an iso issue
ImSwordQueen 25/10/2022 05:08
What iso did you use?
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(the faulty one)
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Hu Ma Gawd 25/10/2022 09:19
The one I originally used was skip’s updated 8.1 embedded iso
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ImSwordQueen 25/10/2022 10:22
Skip issue trollface
trollface 1
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скип ишью (edited)
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i hate linux communities
So OS communities. Got it trollface
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But yeah the "hardcore" Linux communities are very silly lol
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But that's just about any interest group
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Mint forums are fairly helpful though, or forums for other debian/ubuntu spins. It's the Archheads lol
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I've encountered some very friendly people on the Ubuntu mate forums, or peppermint, Spatry
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It's the more purist Linux folk that tip their fedoras in shame at you
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Like Vincent the Athe.... I mean Arch user
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I'm mostly kidding btw, Arch is fine lol
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ImSwordQueen
Skip issue trollface
i dont have any 7th gen intel pcs and if i did, why would i want to install 8.1 on them
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its most likely some monthly rollup that patched the workaround
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ImSwordQueen 25/10/2022 15:41
it worked with my iso
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so skip issue trol
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i wasnt able to test it on a 7th gen intel?
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ImSwordQueen 25/10/2022 15:42
oh trol are back !!!!
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Hu Ma Gawd 25/10/2022 21:43
7 - 8.1 is what I would install on 7th gen intel
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or macos I guess
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Hu Ma Gawd 25/10/2022 22:00
also I'm working on fluent8 again 👀
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I've been using this system as a development machine for it
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Nite is back
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Hu Ma Gawd 25/10/2022 22:03
ye
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no kernelxe yet btw
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I want to finish fluent8 and vista sp3 first
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 25/10/2022 23:31
vista exkern.... x86 ...
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Hu Ma Gawd
also I'm working on fluent8 again 👀
ImSwordQueen 26/10/2022 05:22
👀 👀 👀 👀
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County
vista exkern.... x86 ...
dikord..amdee dirver,
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 26/10/2022 13:51
Dont care, novideo beter,, no nees dicker, hav ripcord, need Stem
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barisberat 26/10/2022 14:24
STEM
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 26/10/2022 16:52
Steame
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ImSwordQueen 26/10/2022 16:53
i love fluent8!!!!
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no igpu, no internal wifi, no fingerprint sensor, no touchpad, no funny thing windows 11 "requires", but other than those, it seems to be working fine? (edited)
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ImSwordQueen
You don't need pirated sib+ if you use 8.1
RostiTheGamer 27/10/2022 13:43
Already have SIB+ installed, so the activation is indeed broken. I hope I can use it forever
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As activation is broken
RostiTheGamer 27/10/2022 15:18
I wonder why activation is broken?
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ImSwordQueen 27/10/2022 15:18
how tf am i supposed to know
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also may sound stupid, but does the 8.0 sib also have the same bug
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ImSwordQueen 27/10/2022 16:28
nope
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only 8.1 does
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very odd
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ImSwordQueen 27/10/2022 17:36
i want to do a little bit of trolling and make a forum post about startisback being broken on 8.0
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trol
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oh hi xim
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no igpu, no internal wifi, no fingerprint sensor, no touchpad, no funny thing windows 11 "requires", but other than those, it seems to be working fine? (edited)
Hu Ma Gawd 27/10/2022 17:37
I wonder if the 22.6.1 driver for windows 7 can be made to work with those modern integrated gpus 👀
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ImSwordQueen
oh hi xim
Hu Ma Gawd 27/10/2022 17:37
hello trol
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sus xim
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Hu Ma Gawd
I wonder if the 22.6.1 driver for windows 7 can be made to work with those modern integrated gpus 👀
it could be, if you modify the shit of it
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ImSwordQueen 27/10/2022 17:38
i wonder if the same method to bring "modern" amd drivers would work on 8.1
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but that requires ci patching
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and if someone is willing to do that, may as well fix the damn driver on 8.0 kthanks /s but still
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ImSwordQueen 27/10/2022 17:38
or forever test mode
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Scamdisk
and if someone is willing to do that, may as well fix the damn driver on 8.0 kthanks /s but still
ImSwordQueen 27/10/2022 17:39
need too
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amd support be like: 2 months max for gpus but almost 10 for some stupid low spec cpu + gpu combo
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obviously it kills 8.0 oh
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tbf the watermark can be hidden with uwd and it's also the funny antigenshin trol
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ImSwordQueen 27/10/2022 17:41
8.1 and 10240 with modded shell32 be like: no metro 4 u
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i wonder how many other dlls would cause the same issue
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meanwhile 8.0 doesn't give a shit about how much shell32 is modded
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ImSwordQueen 27/10/2022 17:42
8.0 based trol
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it will have an angerism if you mod basebrd without the mui trick however
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by angerism I mean activation commiting die
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ImSwordQueen 27/10/2022 17:42
actually. shell32 would be a problem for a hypothetical 8.1 extended kernel
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Hu Ma Gawd 27/10/2022 17:42
I had to do the mui trick for a few different files already for fluent8
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ImSwordQueen 27/10/2022 17:43
oh well. more reasons to make a 8.0 extended kernel trol
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There's the shell32a.dll trick, but that isn't fool proof
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ImSwordQueen
oh well. more reasons to make a 8.0 extended kernel trol
yes
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Scamdisk
There's the shell32a.dll trick, but that isn't fool proof
ImSwordQueen 27/10/2022 17:44
but then. death of metro
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8to7 discoveries!
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like I said, not fool proof
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ImSwordQueen 27/10/2022 17:44
yeah sadly
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8.0 been easier to mod is why it should get the ext kernel treatment before 8.1
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still, explorer :doom:
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Hu Ma Gawd 27/10/2022 17:45
also adding 8.1 functions to 8.0 would be a good place to start for an extended kernel
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ImSwordQueen 27/10/2022 17:46
can't you port vxkex to 8.0?
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or would that be pointless
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Hu Ma Gawd 27/10/2022 17:48
honestly a vxkex like extended kernel makes way more sense on 8 than 7
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7 got more SW support than 8, but then again, it's mostly artificial blocks
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ImSwordQueen 27/10/2022 17:49
it's only on 7 because haha. 7 more cool than 8
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and most of them are because funny .net 4.8
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ImSwordQueen 27/10/2022 17:49
legit i'm still surprised that vista got an extended kernel before 7
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because well.... 7 being more popular than vista
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and most of them are because funny .net 4.8
ImSwordQueen 27/10/2022 17:51
isn't 8.0 support now almost the same as 7's?
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that now you got net 4.8 working
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yes
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tbf .net 4.8 working is thanks to the fact WE8S exists and is still supported enough for .net 4.8 to support it (edited)
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4.8.1 tho :doom:
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I tried getting it to work on 1709, no dice
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used server 1709 so I could easily tell it wasn't working because Server Manager commiting die
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back on the topic on hand
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you still have to circumvent some artificial blocks
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but even VS 2019 and 2022 up to 17.2.x run on 8.0
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now if one would leak VS 17.2.x offline image to IA
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or something
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ImSwordQueen 27/10/2022 17:58
ah i remember a thing
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@Hu Ma Gawd do you need a 8 logo style 11 drive icon?
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Hu Ma Gawd 27/10/2022 17:59
no, I actually want to convert all the windows logos to the 11 style
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ImSwordQueen 27/10/2022 17:59
oh right
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it's only on 7 because haha. 7 more cool than 8
i use 7 because of funny 8 bsods
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ImSwordQueen 27/10/2022 18:31
even on 8.1?
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@Scamdisk scamdisk
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what's the first amd driver to kernel security check failure on 8.0 (edited)
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It may be the version after crimson 16.9.1
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ImSwordQueen 29/10/2022 19:44
@Scamdisk sorry for the ping but what modules should i install on 8.0 for 4.8?
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ok checking far back i found the packages needed
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ImSwordQueen 30/10/2022 12:50
net 4.8 👍
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nice
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how do i make discord not say my installation is corrupt
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on s2k12
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 31/10/2022 05:05
ask it politely
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Vruh 2
how do i make discord not say my installation is corrupt
Enable the qwave service
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Tank
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Scamdisk
Enable the qwave service
this service does not exist
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you gotta install it from Server Manager first
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there
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now it's good
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@Scamdisk is there a way for me to play any fucking video at all on s2k12
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i can't play anything on instagram
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half of the videos in youtube don't play
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i've already installed klite
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and enabled qwave
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Did you install desktop experience
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well yeah
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i think ?
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is this not the desktop experience
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can't tell if there's no store or something
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it doesn't let me install the desktop experience on server manager
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or atleast i cant find it
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there is no windows store uhh
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it has to be somewhere in GUI or whatever
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found it
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mkay now it works
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thanks
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ImSwordQueen 01/11/2022 21:19
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no minesweeper oh
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also solitaire can still get achivements what
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ImSwordQueen 01/11/2022 22:14
@tyl0413 idk
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 01/11/2022 23:08
foreign
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ImSwordQueen 01/11/2022 23:12
Honestly im surprised it even connected
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And could play
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why is my xbox connecting fine
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🤨
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ImSwordQueen 05/11/2022 15:23
we do a little metro modding
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ImSwordQueen 05/11/2022 16:28
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ah yes, 8250ish
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ImSwordQueen 05/11/2022 16:54
IT WAS HERE. THE WHOLE TIME
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ImSwordQueen 05/11/2022 17:40
it controls the IE tile color (edited)
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on metro apps it's in appxmanifest
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ImSwordQueen 05/11/2022 22:42
after 13 hours 8.1 explorer does this
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ImSwordQueen 05/11/2022 22:53
text going to brazil
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this is a 8.1 moment
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what
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does it legit corrupt on having uptime
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i once ran windows 7 for nearly a month straight
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uptime that is
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ImSwordQueen 05/11/2022 23:10
explorer dies
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until themefix kicks up
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or restarting explorer
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also i have sib so it might affect shit
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Vruh 2
i once ran windows 7 for nearly a month straight
i ran it 100% cpu for 33 days
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nothing went wrong
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Ik that explorer will put out a error after a while of uptime if restarted on 7
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it works, just trying to open up a folder or whatever will result in some error
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text going to brazil
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ApertureSketch 14/11/2022 07:03
Wouldn't recommend looking into those sources, for the good of humanity
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ImSwordQueen 14/11/2022 07:04
Can confirm
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It's really that bad
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RostiTheGamer 17/11/2022 15:43
I miss using Windows 7 on my Mac Mini. But hey, at least Windows 8.1 (especially Embedded 8.1) runs a bit faster than 7!
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Even if there is no Shutdown sound, the system is pretty fast!
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I miss using Windows 7 on my Mac Mini. But hey, at least Windows 8.1 (especially Embedded 8.1) runs a bit faster than 7!
the Door guy 17/11/2022 17:08
Whos stopping ya from using 7
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I miss using Windows 7 on my Mac Mini. But hey, at least Windows 8.1 (especially Embedded 8.1) runs a bit faster than 7!
ApertureSketch 17/11/2022 17:09
Is it running a bit faster better than actually having 7 on it?
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RostiTheGamer 17/11/2022 17:26
I guess
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RostiTheGamer 17/11/2022 17:43
But if I reinstall Windows 7, I have to reinstall the updates.
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But after I installed a modified Windows 8.1 Embedded ISO, it has all the updates
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RostiTheGamer
But if I reinstall Windows 7, I have to reinstall the updates.
you can just get an updated iso... lol
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or build one, or use the esu tool, there's many ways
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RostiTheGamer 18/11/2022 05:08
Oh right
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But I decided to switch to Windows 8.1, since it is still supported
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barisberat 18/11/2022 11:33
it wont be after 2 months
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some apps are cutting both windows 7 and 8.1 support alltogether
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But I decided to switch to Windows 8.1, since it is still supported
Well then you’re gonna have to switch to another os pretty soon lol
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most apps are gonna cut off 7 and 8.x support at the same time
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i say most because funny haha chromium moment
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ImSwordQueen 18/11/2022 16:53
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 18/11/2022 16:54
based
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i mean vmware 16 didnt work on 7 either i think
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I think SwordKing implies the windows 8 part
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skip
i mean vmware 16 didnt work on 7 either i think
unofficially it works on 7
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 20/11/2022 21:33
the motherboard came with a 10 key not 8.1 :(
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i got lucky with an HP oem key for 8.1 lol
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 21/11/2022 04:39
anyone have good ways to find "REAL AND LEGITIMATE PRODUCT KEYS" (WINK WINK) for Windows 8.1
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please dm if so
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 21/11/2022 07:08
IGNORE THE ABOVE MESSAGES
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now i wanna hear windows gamers what themes do you have for windows 8.1
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how can i spice up my life
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County
now i wanna hear windows gamers what themes do you have for windows 8.1
AERO GLASS FOR WINDOWS 8 AND 8.1
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WINDOWS 8 RP THEME
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 21/11/2022 07:15
THANKS skipst er wher e can if ind these program and them
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NOOO
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hold on i have a repack
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without watermark ‼️
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damn 64mb on mobile data
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 21/11/2022 07:20
Please lord skip
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aero 8 without watermark
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blessing
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@Mack Daddy of Heimlich County
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enjoy this fine piece of software
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 21/11/2022 07:27
i love you
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which one?
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County
which one?
run setup.cmd and it will install the best one for your build
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damn bro
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 21/11/2022 07:31
glad i was quick
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false positive i use that thing myself
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 21/11/2022 07:32
yeah mb was bitching about it too
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lookin snazzy
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thank you skip
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also you can use classic shell to change the taskbar texture to aero
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i had a texture laying around
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 21/11/2022 07:34
ima just run a theme
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ImSwordQueen 21/11/2022 09:20
@skip can you reupload it on anonfiles or smth
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hold on imma password it
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enjoj
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password is hentai
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password is hentai
ImSwordQueen 21/11/2022 09:26
RaduTek pinned a message to this channel. 21/11/2022 16:21
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but that's not all...
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ImSwordQueen 21/11/2022 21:40
i'm the creator of the pack trol
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 21/11/2022 21:40
(edited)
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Windows 8 To Windows Vista Transformation Pack (& DS!Delta), by someone who isn't Sword. (edited)
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what they done to ma boi win8???
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 21/11/2022 21:42
Media Center and WMP rextures also not by sword, ig, using a few resources from FediaFedia's XP WMP11 skin. (edited)
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what they done to ma boi win8???
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 21/11/2022 21:42
made it look amazing.
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this gives me pain
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 21/11/2022 21:44
(theme is a WIP and got rebased, hence why it looks worse than above screenshots)
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 21/11/2022 21:44
kudos to anyone who gets the reference the blue bar-thingy makes (edited)
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windows cleveland
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windows cleveland
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 21/11/2022 21:45
nope
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oh, and one of the coolest boasts of them all:
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I literally ported every single view icon to .ico, just for this pack, as Windows 8.x changed them to .icos (edited)
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o yeah, Start's also planned to look something like this in DS!Delta: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/996215367863119872/1001279920053424148/unknown.png
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I just lost my Classic Shell skin file, though, so need to redo it from scratch in the future :v (edited)
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this is painful why would you do that to win8
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 21/11/2022 21:48
why wouldn't you (edited)
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Vista looks sex as heck (edited)
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 21/11/2022 21:51
@Mack Daddy of Heimlich County behold, in all its work-in-progress glory. (edited)
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o yeah, Start's also planned to look something like this in DS!Delta: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/996215367863119872/1001279920053424148/unknown.png
this is a glowing example of why i dont use custom themed windows
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o yeah, Start's also planned to look something like this in DS!Delta: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/996215367863119872/1001279920053424148/unknown.png
Fantastic work
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 22/11/2022 01:36
hyrrgnhhh vista
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this is a glowing example of why i dont use custom themed windows
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 22/11/2022 02:19
?
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 22/11/2022 06:02
?
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2 heavy on my eyes
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hello from windows 8.1 on ryzen
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on a vhd though rn
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took a bit of time to find wifi drivers
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nice
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and the screen has brightened up too
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ok all done
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apu uses 2,06gb ram?oh
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2 heavy on my eyes
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 22/11/2022 14:37
To be fair, that's just a probable example of how Vista could have looked.
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It's based on legitimate mockups and implementations
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(Well, except Welcome Screen being blue - made that decision 'cos it matched the design better than green did - based on the blue sidebar) (edited)
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Honestly really like how the blueification turned out
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'cos it contrasts neatly with the OG AERO Spinner design
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apu uses 2,06gb ram?oh
yes, but you can normally change that
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typically i set it to 512 mb of ram
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upgrade to 16gb lol
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the Door guy 22/11/2022 19:05
Honestly really like how the blueification turned out
@That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes I want that background
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nice
did you install the 7 drivers or 10 ones?
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win5270
did you install the 7 drivers or 10 ones?
7 ones
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hello from windows 8.1 on ryzen
what the heck, how did u get gpu drivers?
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i have 5450u in my laptop and i want something better than win10
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on a vhd though rn
Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 24/11/2022 04:50
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Michael
what the heck, how did u get gpu drivers?
Thanks to a big guy who provided me with the motherboard and CPU test. This test borrowed A320 and B450 motherboards from 4 motherboard manufacturers, and 6 CPUs of 200GE / 2200G / 2400G / 3000G / 3200G / 3400G. Scores, games, and heterogeneous computing all work fine. The driver does not require kernel modification, so it is more stable to use...
docR pinned a message to this channel. 24/11/2022 07:05
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Nice find, man
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Post it in #software and ping me, I'll pin it there
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how about 4000 series?
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AMD HD 4000
trol 2
damnbro 1
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🍞
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what about 5000 series?
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how about 4000 series?
also works iirc
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but dunno about 5000 series
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i'm on 3000 series so i dunno
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on athlon 3000g and this ryzen 5 3500u it works very well
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anyway i wouldnt wanna run 7 or 8.1 on my gaming laptop
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win10 ltsc all the way
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anyway i wouldnt wanna run 7 or 8.1 on my gaming laptop
for citra the newer drivers that are only on 10 work better (edited)
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win10 ltsc all the way
meanwhile me
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it surprisingly works very well here
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for citra the newer drivers that are only on 10 work better (edited)
isn't that epic
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there is super small lag but it's shader related stuff
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so it doesn't appear after doing something in the game once
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rip alphadream tho
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(they were responsible for all mario & luigi games)
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they made the best mario games
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7 ones
So, it would be very much appreciated if someone could and wanted to contribute with a deeper and more detailed knowledge on how to mod for example latest Adrenalin 2020 Win 7 drivers to work for Win 8.1!! If it is possible at all...?? You can look into this guy. He's why I know how tedious...
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did you have to modify the 7 ones to make them work on 8.1? @RayZen
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"how to mod 7 adrenalin drivers to 8.1" ????? (edited)
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have they ever heard of device management?
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or did amd broke the drivers now
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cause i know ive used 8.1 with 7 drivers no issue
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did you have to modify the 7 ones to make them work on 8.1? @RayZen
no
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why would 7 drivers not work on 8.1
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it's the same drivers that i have used
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why would 7 drivers not work on 8.1
i’ve seen some 7 drivers not work on 8.x before, like causing bluescreens
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just was curious if these were like that
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that was 8.0 not 8.1
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rip 8.0 😔
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 28/11/2022 07:21
did you guys ever get the 3000 series rtx card drivers on 8.1? iirc they're 7 or 10+ only
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asking for a friend
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County
did you guys ever get the 3000 series rtx card drivers on 8.1? iirc they're 7 or 10+ only
afaik the 7 drivers work fine on 8.x
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i think amd 7 drivers had issues on 8.0 though
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8400 apps provisioned very
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yeah this is a freshly created user
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only copied the file that contained the app pin layout from 8400 over
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ImSwordQueen 09/12/2022 13:25
how
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the first image mostly tells you how
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exported some reg shit from 8400 and the lics then shoved them into 9200 then copied over the WindowsApps folder
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well after deleting the one with the 9200 apps
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ImSwordQueen 09/12/2022 13:27
Huh
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while the layout is not loaded
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the apps are indeed installed
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when a new user is created
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ImSwordQueen 09/12/2022 13:27
You can make it load a custom layout iirc
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For new accs (edited)
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wscrack isn't even installed and the apps still work
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because duh legit non bogus lic files
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also the inboxapplications key contains what you would expect
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store and settings
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maybe making an app a system app would bypass some shit
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ok made music into a system app and uninstalled the lic
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now gotta see if it still works
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nvm now it didn't install anything
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ImSwordQueen 11/12/2022 13:30
haram
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i think chromium 109?
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ImSwordQueen 11/12/2022 14:08
110 is the first version that does not work
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meanwhile latest firefox (108) still works
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firepog
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and nightly as well
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 12/12/2022 02:11
real
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 12/12/2022 02:20
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just edit shell32.dll.mui
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Edit the winver dialog itself
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 12/12/2022 03:46
1. DPI Scalability (edited)
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2. Funni branding
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U hh
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 12/12/2022 03:49
Plus they're remakes in SVG, so there's that benefit too
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1. DPI Scalability (edited)
Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 12/12/2022 03:53
dpi is crigne
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use 100%/96dpi always
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 12/12/2022 03:55
Honestly, I can truly see why nobody has made a true Windows Vista transformation pack for Windows 8.x yet, because dang I had to do a lot of things no normal person would even fathom doing just to complete the look already so far.
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Stuff like remaking all of Vista's view icons in .ico format, since Windows 8 changed them to ICOs, etc. (edited)
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 12/12/2022 03:55
if you complete it i'll use it until vista hal intel 6th gen fixy
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i am your n1 supporter
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 12/12/2022 03:56
Also I guess legally obliged screenshot of more progress for the Normal aesthetic
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 12/12/2022 03:56
why no text?
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
Also I guess legally obliged screenshot of more progress for the Normal aesthetic
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 12/12/2022 03:57
Mainly that it finally has proper Control Panel sidebar textures
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 12/12/2022 03:57
and has anyone found a workaround for the shorter close button in 8?
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Mainly that it finally has proper Control Panel sidebar textures
Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 12/12/2022 03:57
oh shit the text is white too
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good job
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County
why no text?
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 12/12/2022 03:57
Because prerelease Windows 7 (edited)
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 12/12/2022 03:57
interesting
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County
and has anyone found a workaround for the shorter close button in 8?
Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 12/12/2022 03:57
is this possible to fix or just is what it is?
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
Because prerelease Windows 7 (edited)
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 12/12/2022 03:58
Sadly I couldn't do the reverse to bring back the titles under window colours - their labels do exist already but are never given a string value anymore
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County
is this possible to fix or just is what it is?
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 12/12/2022 03:58
@ImSwordQueen has gotten closest to serving a fix via a uDWM patch. (edited)
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 12/12/2022 03:59
do you plan on making this an installer when you're done so it's easy one click for people w/o time to set it up proper?
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 12/12/2022 03:59
Pretty sure he just hasn't found where lone button width is
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County
do you plan on making this an installer when you're done so it's easy one click for people w/o time to set it up proper?
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 12/12/2022 03:59
My dude,
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That is the work of Win8To7-Backend-forked code. (edited)
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 12/12/2022 03:59
awesome
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will you be able to supply your own aeroglass optionally? or am i gonna have to reinstall the awesome cracked watermark-free one
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That is the work of Win8To7-Backend-forked code. (edited)
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 12/12/2022 04:01
Alongside having its own fork of Win8To7 Getting Started to get as close as possible in its codebase to Vista's one. Seen here in Delta aesthetic:
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(resizing is disabled because WinForms fails spectacularly at flowing the controls properly while they're segmented here) (edited)
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 12/12/2022 04:01
q: why is your user account name "ImSwordKing"
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q: why is your user account name "ImSwordKing"
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 12/12/2022 04:02
Same VM that made Win8To73.0
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So, in case the username lands in compiles for that.
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 12/12/2022 04:02
ah
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 12/12/2022 04:04
Also repost of the goofy ahh IE reskin
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Alongside some Vista programs
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(and yes I figured out how the heck to pre-enable Quick Launch automatically)
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(still need to figure out Taskbar Pins Nuking For Newly Created Users)
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(Heck, still need to add crucial stuff like registering DLLs so a ton of the programs work sometime too)
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 12/12/2022 04:15
does it have the windows media player deskband?
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Alongside having its own fork of Win8To7 Getting Started to get as close as possible in its codebase to Vista's one. Seen here in Delta aesthetic:
amd epyc? 😳
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 12/12/2022 04:47
more like amd crynge
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amd epyc? 😳
5900hx running virt-manager*
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does it have the windows media player deskband?
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 12/12/2022 14:26
That... I need to figure out readding. It might just be as simple as implementing the installer's Registry changes into this.
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regsvr32 "C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player\wmpband.dll" regsvr32 "C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Media Player\wmpband.dll"
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 12/12/2022 14:36
^
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copy file, register dll, restart explorer
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for all of wmp11 make sure to apply media patches+delegate execute patches with full ownership of hkcr
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(these are found in xreunion160 archive)
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ImSwordQueen 12/12/2022 14:38
Would be interesting to see how to implement that in an automatic way (edited)
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can always do it while logged onto SYSTEM
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tr
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regular user taking full ownership of hkcr can lead to shitty results
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so SYSTEM will be safer anyway
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ImSwordQueen 12/12/2022 14:42
About registering the dlls i mean
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regsvr32 "C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player\wmpband.dll" regsvr32 "C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Media Player\wmpband.dll"
lol
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easy
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admin permission and command execution
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also have to register the other wmp dlls in system32/syswow64
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when they are replaced
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ImSwordQueen 12/12/2022 14:50
You forgot that the command generated prompts each time @oofer_dww
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So it's not going to be that automatic
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add /s
14:51
and you no longer get prompts
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ImSwordQueen 12/12/2022 14:51
Huh forgot that was a thing
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oofer_dww
regsvr32 "C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player\wmpband.dll" regsvr32 "C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Media Player\wmpband.dll"
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 12/12/2022 19:22
you don't say :P
19:22
it's literally inside the installer executable if you 7-Zip it
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need a register tho
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ImSwordQueen 12/12/2022 20:17
@That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes when winver fix 🥺
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 12/12/2022 20:37
20:37
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ImSwordQueen 12/12/2022 20:45
That ain't fixed 😩
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 12/12/2022 23:39
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 13/12/2022 02:27
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Hu Ma Gawd 13/12/2022 02:45
I wonder which files are behind displaying these screens (edited)
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I want to try changing the font to segoe ui variable and maybe adding the win10x circle animation
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Hu Ma Gawd
I wonder which files are behind displaying these screens (edited)
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 13/12/2022 02:49
authui much?
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Hu Ma Gawd 13/12/2022 03:15
I looked into authui and I found some things 👀
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so it seems like the circles are probably called "ModernProgressRing"
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ImSwordQueen 13/12/2022 06:26
Yeah it's in authui on 8.x still
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It got moved during 10's development (edited)
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Hu Ma Gawd 13/12/2022 07:31
I have found some references to the animation there
07:31
but not the animation itself yet
07:34
also found references to Segoe UI in the code after looking at it in IDA
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I'll try to find references in the resources, but if I can't, I'll change the code
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Hu Ma Gawd
but not the animation itself yet
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 13/12/2022 19:40
you'll find the animation in %WINDIR%\Fonts
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ImSwordQueen
Would be interesting to see how to implement that in an automatic way (edited)
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 13/12/2022 19:44
it's just as easy as adding OldNewExplorer, regarding DLL-installs
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I'm just holding that back until I'm further into development on it
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because it's gonna be tedious to write all the lines into code, 'cos it's copy&paste and translating of tons of lines of code into this (edited)
19:48
But, yeah...
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the commands are there for me to add. (edited)
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it's just the tedium of that that's holding it back until later into development. (edited)
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With wmp11 install automation, it's either fuck up syspreping
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or fuck up the entire system
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 13/12/2022 20:02
uwu
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
you'll find the animation in %WINDIR%\Fonts
Hu Ma Gawd 13/12/2022 20:19
🤨
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yes, that animation is literally a font
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So if you somehow force it to use a more normal font, the animation will just end up been a square
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you know, the missing shit kind
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Hu Ma Gawd 13/12/2022 20:27
you have any idea what the file is called?
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I looked in the fonts folder and didn't see any files with names relating to boot or animation
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 14/12/2022 04:29
all the info i see online says the spinner's in one of the fonts
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one guy asking about it says he read it's in segoe ui somewhere?
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ImSwordQueen 14/12/2022 06:36
Because it's in the segoe ui family
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Isn't there a Segoe icons font
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ImSwordQueen 14/12/2022 07:17
Yes
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County
one guy asking about it says he read it's in segoe ui somewhere?
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athe52
Click to see attachment 🖼️
barisberat 14/12/2022 10:29
note that it all says "private use"
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barisberat
note that it all says "private use"
private use means free unicode character
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skip
private use means free unicode character
barisberat 14/12/2022 11:11
which is allocated by windows 8 and 10X spinners
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8.1 Starter U1 almost complete
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just missing one sku
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Scamdisk
8.1 Starter U1 almost complete
ImSwordQueen 14/12/2022 17:25
Does it activate like rtm?
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that damn CoreConnectedCountrySpecific
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no i will not hack that shit up with shit from 10586
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dism really doesn't want spanish gone
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ImSwordQueen 14/12/2022 17:30
Spain without the s
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yeah used that spanish coreconnectedsinglelanguage image as a base
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well i mean it literally had almost all U1 exclusive skus
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that aren't N
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ImSwordQueen 14/12/2022 17:32
Wait why Spanish for starter u1?
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not spanish
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shoved a en-US langpack in
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ImSwordQueen 14/12/2022 17:32
Oh
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then gonna attempt to wipe the spanish
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from it
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ImSwordQueen 14/12/2022 17:33
Wait isn't there coreconnectedsinglelanguage in en-us?
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Or would that just be core with bing? (edited)
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coreconnectedsinglelanguage images only leaked in spanish and chinese simplified
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ImSwordQueen 14/12/2022 17:34
Oh
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and guess what, only the spanish one is on IA
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ImSwordQueen 14/12/2022 17:34
i mean you don't wanna use chinese
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For obvious reasons
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also guess what, only coreconnectedsinglelanguage has an upgrade target to professionalstudent
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yeah regular coreconnected doesn't
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but the n variant does for professionalstudentn
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so yes, by extension, professionalstudent also only leaked in those langs
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but guess what, MS hosts shit for other langs
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well some update
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that literally shoves in branding for literally every lang on the U1 skus
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ImSwordQueen 14/12/2022 17:38
And how is that related to starter?
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the lp.cab files ms provide in those msdn isos don't have shit for those skus
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ImSwordQueen 14/12/2022 17:39
Huh
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so basically you can make complete starter u1
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not really
17:40
remember, we don't have CoreConnectedCountrySpecific
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so almost (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 14/12/2022 17:41
Oh
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Sad
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then again, it won't work on any lang other than chinese unless you 👨🍳
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just like the regular CoreCountrySpecific
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yes, that one is literally only there for completion reasons
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and yes, it still activates
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ImSwordQueen 14/12/2022 17:46
Windows 8.0.1.1 trol
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maybe i should use this as a base when making an updated 8.1 iso
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 16/12/2022 01:29
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ofc sxs cleanup would work properly under 8.1
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Scamdisk
ofc sxs cleanup would work properly under 8.1
dism++ sxs cleanup fucks up 8.x installs
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further updates will fail
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tried it with the only updates being the u1 stuff and it still worked
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then again, i only did that to clean up spanish lp leftovers
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Scamdisk
tried it with the only updates being the u1 stuff and it still worked
i mean trying to install a monthly rollup will fail
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i see
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just wait until 2023 troll
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literally next month troll
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yeptrol
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:02
Private build of Win8ToVista 'cosynot (note: it's very incomplete) https://we.tl/t-YgVX1kEf0b (edited)
1 file sent via WeTransfer, the simplest way to send your files around the world
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known issues and todo is (mostly) in the installer itself (I say mostly 'cos I likely forgot an item or two) (edited)
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@RayZen :lqtroll:
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"private build"KEKW
23:15
can you actually not be childish for once
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:16
this is literally a private server
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lmao
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so the saying holds true
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plus there's no public source code for this TP (yet.)
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there is nothing about it that is public right now, except for the contents of the link (something true for basically any 'private' thing that is internet hosted without password-requirements) (edited)
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therefore, by definition:
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It is a private build.
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a private transformation pack is by all means incredibly childish to begin with
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private project with original shit is something i get
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but a windows TP?
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this is literally vista kids' practice
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if you truly cant bother using the "upload files" feature to commit changes on github i dont know what to sayKEKW
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(looking at our previous convo)
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ImSwordQueen 18/12/2022 23:21
oofer
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Those are 2 different things
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This project isn't open source
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Or well. It's forked from an open source project
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a private transformation pack is by all means incredibly childish to begin with
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:22
oofer, maybe you should consider one thing before making that claim:
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"Is it incomplete?"
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because it is currently incomplete.
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By all means, it'll be public when completed, but right now it isn't because kids can't read warnings for crud
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lmfao
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is rav1e complete?
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no
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is it on xiph/rav1e on github?
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yes
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
By all means, it'll be public when completed, but right now it isn't because kids can't read warnings for crud
this again
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oh
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not even gonna bother
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ImSwordQueen 18/12/2022 23:24
public != automatic open source
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8to7 isn't open source
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>non open sourceKEKW
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ImSwordQueen 18/12/2022 23:25
You're using windows 7
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i would be able to install linux if i didnt have 20gb space to backup my data into
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ImSwordQueen 18/12/2022 23:26
??
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meaning i only have 20gb free out of 6tb
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ImSwordQueen 18/12/2022 23:26
so you were able to install Linux you didn't have 20gb of space ?
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and my system disk (needs to be formatted) has 67gb data
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that is important
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ImSwordQueen 18/12/2022 23:27
Easy solution to fix the problem: don't store 300 copies of the same thing
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no trash left in 6tb
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ImSwordQueen
Easy solution to fix the problem: don't store 300 copies of the same thing
thoroughly cleaned already
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ImSwordQueen 18/12/2022 23:27
Even removed arcane?
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even tar'd up my shit to save space
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ImSwordQueen 18/12/2022 23:28
If not
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That's not truly cleaned
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ImSwordQueen
Even removed arcane?
i dont remove rare downloads until i have mirrored themKEKW
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dovi p5 release is basically non existent on google
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ImSwordQueen 18/12/2022 23:28
Would honestly be good if it was lost media
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or any public tracker
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ImSwordQueen 18/12/2022 23:29
the whole thing i mean
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ImSwordQueen
Would honestly be good if it was lost media
trol
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did you even watch it?
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1/3 sucked but i mean the rest was fine
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ImSwordQueen 18/12/2022 23:30
do you think I'm going to die without showering once?
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oofer_dww
this again
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:30
Alright, have fun then asking people's questions on how to uninstall software you told them is not uninstallable yet.
23:30
Yeah, bet you would get just as tired of that as we are.
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
Alright, have fun then asking people's questions on how to uninstall software you told them is not uninstallable yet.
how to fix:
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when installer starts
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fill up the whole screen with a message
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NOT UNINSTALLABLE DO NOT TRY TO UNINSTALL (edited)
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oofer_dww
fill up the whole screen with a message
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:31
tell me you didn't read the original reply without telling me that
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because guess what?
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ImSwordQueen 18/12/2022 23:31
Oofer
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hmm
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ImSwordQueen 18/12/2022 23:31
Name 10 books
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im dumb
23:31
2:30 am
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:31
(phew, they realised)
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fixed
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:32
point is, I did that
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and at least one person who got the link off someone else STILL had the guts to ask me how to uninstall it despite clicking a button that says, I kid you not, 'I UNDERSTAND THIS CANNOT BE UNINSTALLED YET, CONTINUE' (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 18/12/2022 23:32
Infinite iq
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:33
anyway, my fault for not making it clear on the top message it's an incomplete build, so fixed that (regarding the earlier chat) (edited)
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ImSwordQueen
Name 10 books
dede korkut communist manifesto eylül esrar-ı cinayat letaif-i rivayat ateşten gömlek vurun kahpeye macbeth sherlock holmes the railway children
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:34
(dang.)
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want any more books?
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ImSwordQueen 18/12/2022 23:35
500 more books
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:35
also here, for reference, here's the warning itself (edited)
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sure when my eyes are not dying
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do you call that huge simple to understand text?
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:36
yeah
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the top part is huge
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that fills up the whole screen?
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press x to doubt
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:36
also it fills up the whole window
KEKW 1
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
also here, for reference, here's the warning itself (edited)
ImSwordQueen 18/12/2022 23:36
Time to add a password system like you did to baka
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:36
which is quite big on 1920x1080-ish (edited)
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not enough
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kid doesnt read stuff in an installer window while giving a fuck unless you fill up the whole screen with gigantic text
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you gotta do that
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
which is quite big on 1920x1080-ish (edited)
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:37
(heck, it'd probably fill near enough the whole screen on 1366x768 lmao)
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oofer_dww
kid doesnt read stuff in an installer window while giving a fuck unless you fill up the whole screen with gigantic text
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:37
to be fair,
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the button also says it in a nutshell (edited)
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they dont read the button either
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:38
brb,
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at least 4 year old me mindlessly clicked on unend thinking it was a next button
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:38
adding a prompt that asks them what YouTube was when it was created. troll (edited)
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i only figured it out when i was 5 to not do that
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oofer_dww
at least 4 year old me mindlessly clicked on unend thinking it was a next button
ImSwordQueen 18/12/2022 23:38
That's kinda why it's not public and only released to a small percentage of people
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ImSwordQueen
That's kinda why it's not public and only released to a small percentage of people
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:38
same here
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oofer_dww
kid doesnt read stuff in an installer window while giving a fuck unless you fill up the whole screen with gigantic text
thats why you need to do this
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:39
I only did it 'publicly' in this server because y'all are privately contained in here (edited)
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to release it to 100% of people
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:39
to be frank
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ImSwordQueen 18/12/2022 23:39
He doesn't want to do that tho
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:39
when it's done it won't even have that page to begin with
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and be publicly released
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and when will it be done?
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in valve time?
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:39
because at that point it'll actually be 100% done
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oofer_dww
and when will it be done?
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:40
idk, still got other projects and life to balance
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at least put source on github without prebuilts so we can build project
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:40
plus that whole todo list and potentially more
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your average kid aint gonna build it
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oofer_dww
at least put source on github without prebuilts so we can build project
ImSwordQueen 18/12/2022 23:40
8to7 backend trol
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oofer_dww
at least put source on github without prebuilts so we can build project
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:40
to be frank if I cancel it, I'll release a build to everyone of it purely for archival (and demonstration) (edited)
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this is windows 2007 all over again
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:41
and later get the source code uploaded, minus all the files that aren't mine, so that people can just remake it and continue it themselves
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afterall, it isn't all that hard to get the files out of manually for reassembling from stripped source files (edited)
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oofer_dww
this is windows 2007 all over again
ImSwordQueen 18/12/2022 23:41
wasn't that a pre-built iso tho
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
and later get the source code uploaded, minus all the files that aren't mine, so that people can just remake it and continue it themselves
and this is exactly what i meant from the beginning that your average kid isnt going to build this
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:42
yeah, but if I do it now...
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:42
that'd mean a complex setup
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you're literally not making sense
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:42
of trying to make it so it strips the files before slapping it on a public repository
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do you have grudge against manually committing changes?
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ImSwordQueen 18/12/2022 23:42
8to7 isn't fully open source btw
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:42
while also pushing the non-stripped files to the private backup repo
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oofer_dww
do you have grudge against manually committing changes?
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:43
no, and I literally do do that
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it's just having to go through each 7-Zip file and strip it
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:43
and having to get the right EXEs replaced with dummies
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EVERY
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TIME
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I push a change
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ImSwordQueen
8to7 isn't fully open source btw
ImSwordQueen 18/12/2022 23:43
so not having a project not open source isn't a bad thing
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:43
and having to make sure it's in sync with any EXEs added or removed, etc.
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i want to kill myself so badly due to blindness to obviousness rn
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:44
basically wasting time I could be using for literally anything else
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ImSwordQueen 18/12/2022 23:44
Oofer
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:44
go to slep oofer
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ImSwordQueen 18/12/2022 23:44
You're thinking that this project is going to be open source
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:44
you literally don't even make much sense rn
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ImSwordQueen 18/12/2022 23:44
It's not going to be
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ImSwordQueen
You're thinking that this project is going to be open source
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:44
i mean, yes and no.
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ImSwordQueen
It's not going to be
and that doesnt make senseKEKW
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:44
the original form won't
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
i mean, yes and no.
ImSwordQueen 18/12/2022 23:45
MAYBE A 8TOVISTAbackend
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:45
but a version of it without all the files I don't own replaced/removed from it will be
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ImSwordQueen 18/12/2022 23:45
But not the full thing
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ImSwordQueen
MAYBE A 8TOVISTAbackend
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:45
yeah, literally that lmao
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ImSwordQueen 18/12/2022 23:45
like 8to7 and 8to7backend
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:45
just somewhat lighter even
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'cos out-right stripping the 7zs
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time to jump off a balcony, see you later
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:46
since unlike Backend this one is purely meant for displaying the code that went into it and not examples of files contents (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 18/12/2022 23:46
Oofer prefers to jump off a balcony instead of sleeping real
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Honestly
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I would do that too
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ImSwordQueen
Oofer prefers to jump off a balcony instead of sleeping real
dont gotta sleep to read a tutorial on being so blind and understanding it
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ImSwordQueen 18/12/2022 23:47
It's almost 1am and i have a test tommorrow
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:47
at the end of the day, I'd rather release the source code in a way that has longevity instead of risking being deleted due to a copyright strike or some crud instead.
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
since unlike Backend this one is purely meant for displaying the code that went into it and not examples of files contents (edited)
ImSwordQueen 18/12/2022 23:49
Wait wasn't backend to show the code ?
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
at the end of the day, I'd rather release the source code in a way that has longevity instead of risking being deleted due to a copyright strike or some crud instead.
>copyright strike
23:50
dont include non open source tools in source but put a txt on getting them in supposed folders
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ImSwordQueen 18/12/2022 23:51
That's what he said ???
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then?
23:51
failing to understand where copyright strike risk is coming from
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ImSwordQueen
It's almost 1am and i have a test tommorrow
i have 2
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ImSwordQueen 18/12/2022 23:52
It's not a race oofer
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i know
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oofer_dww
failing to understand where copyright strike risk is coming from
?
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anyway gonna sleep now
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ImSwordQueen
Wait wasn't backend to show the code ?
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:53
yep
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oofer_dww
failing to understand where copyright strike risk is coming from
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:53
all the Microsoft Windows(R) Vista™️ files. (edited)
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ImSwordQueen
Wait wasn't backend to show the code ?
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 18/12/2022 23:54
...but also to guide and show examples of making a TP.
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As if you compile it and install it you do have a partially transformed Windows installation. (edited)
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
also here, for reference, here's the warning itself (edited)
Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 19/12/2022 01:23
the white text on light background's terrible to read
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add shadows or change the text color or background
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oofer_dww
and that doesnt make senseKEKW
Mack Daddy of Heimlich County 19/12/2022 01:25
why make everything open source? if you don't like the way it's done then build a better program yourself
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County
add shadows or change the text color or background
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 19/12/2022 01:53
yeah I did try to tone that down
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but there again the fact it preselects DS!Delta is a bug anyway
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so in intentional usage that page would be seen over Vista's Setup background, thus being perfectly readable (edited)
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 19/12/2022 02:07
there we go. Finally reverted the checked option.
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 19/12/2022 02:26
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
all the Microsoft Windows(R) Vista™️ files. (edited)
can add only resource files and hack them into 8.1
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ImSwordQueen 19/12/2022 06:54
That's the opposite of the whole project ?
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everyone can hack files inside 8.1 and call that a day
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But not everyone is able to make it automatic
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
@RayZen :lqtroll:
what
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RayZen
what
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 19/12/2022 14:28
i mean, there's a Beta 1-esque look in that
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(which leans more-so on pre-Beta-1 and post-Beta-1 but still)
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ohhh
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cool
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 19/12/2022 14:33
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holy shit
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
Click to see attachment 🖼️
ngl the vista african sample music goes hard
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Would look even better with 5259 task buttons
14:35
but its great
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Scamdisk
Would look even better with 5259 task buttons
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 19/12/2022 14:35
I mean... to be fair those're for the finalised Taskbar-style (edited)
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no
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if you look at the shine line
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it's actually for the earlier 52xx taskbar
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 19/12/2022 14:36
oh
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well, guess it might be worth a look I suppose, in that case then.
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 19/12/2022 14:36
do need to go and obtain the 5270 Start Button resources anyway for all of the power button states
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for the Hibernate button (edited)
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Click to see attachment 🖼️
the shine line of 5259's taskbar buttons fits the earlier texture better
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 19/12/2022 14:37
(legit forgor 5270 still had that button style in Start and remade the Hibernate button 🤡)
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Click to see attachment 🖼️
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 19/12/2022 14:39
ehh, honestly not that sure for inactive - the reflection looks kinda sharp in comparison, akin to 5259+'s Taskbar. Defo wouldn't fit for active imo given how active looks in the OG design for comparison. (edited)
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there again, maybe a meshing of the two styles might work (edited)
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then again, here's the screenshot of 5223
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notice the taskbar buttons
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 19/12/2022 14:40
huh.
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I actually forgor.
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the 5259 taskbar buttons are actually almost that
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if not actually that
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 19/12/2022 14:41
also ah yes, yet another thing I need to change textures of soon - Math Input
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holy shit
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 19/12/2022 14:45
Scott The Woz
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the bron jame
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Hey all, Scott here
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 19/12/2022 14:46
also, shame really that Microsoft decided they didn't want to fix the flaw with that^ Start Menu style.
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you should add the bugged calendar widget with the white background to your 8tovista pack
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 19/12/2022 14:47
uh...
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for perfect similarity
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 19/12/2022 14:47
it legitimately is bugged.
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 19/12/2022 14:47
it's literally Vista's Sidebar from Vista. (edited)
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that issue is fixed in 7
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 19/12/2022 14:48
albeit with a port of World Clock to RTM
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(with like probably just one or two options removed because complications)
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apparently ie9 breaks it
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 19/12/2022 14:49
ah yes,
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IE9+.
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at this point make the TPs disable IE
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those buttons tho
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those buttons tho
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 19/12/2022 14:50
IE moment
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(though it does bring back the IE9 buttons on IE's own textures) (edited)
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IE9+.
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 19/12/2022 15:01
also le goofy ahh Microsoft
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the Door guy 19/12/2022 15:59
@That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes Do you think youre going to make transformation pack installers that are compatible with 7?
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 19/12/2022 15:59
no
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because those exist
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you can just change the Backend code to make it compatible with 7 instead.
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
you can just change the Backend code to make it compatible with 7 instead.
the Door guy 19/12/2022 16:00
that sounds harder than it really does right
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the Door guy
that sounds harder than it really does right
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 19/12/2022 18:01
ye it's easier than it sounds (edited)
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
IE9+.
You can fix that calendar gadget by copying the one from 7 to Vista
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I think you need the calendar gadget from 7 patched after IE9
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Or it's the other way around, forgot lol
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@Scamdisk @ImSwordQueen @SwordQueenThe2nd do either of you (or anyone else here) know what update for Windows 8.0/Server 2012 R1 causes the black wallpaper bug? I'm having the issue rn with 2012 R1
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for security only, ik its the 2021-03, 2021-04 and the 2022-05 updates
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@Scamdisk @ImSwordQueen @SwordQueenThe2nd do either of you (or anyone else here) know what update for Windows 8.0/Server 2012 R1 causes the black wallpaper bug? I'm having the issue rn with 2012 R1
That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 26/12/2022 13:43
O yeah given you're on 8.x want a ping for the next pre-alpha build of Win8ToVista?
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Given it is a faithful Windows 8 transformation pack planned to seriously do a job of converting 8.x to Vista wherever possible.
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(next build is planned to drop once I've converted all the changes needed for WMP11, to be present 100% functionally, into the installation procedure) (edited)
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man
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ImSwordQueen 26/12/2022 18:51
8gb starter no way
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ImSwordQueen
8gb starter no way
jokes on you, its actually just 5gb of 0's at the end of the file
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Michael
jokes on you, its actually just 5gb of 0's at the end of the file
ImSwordQueen 26/12/2022 19:15
you gave me an idea
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes
O yeah given you're on 8.x want a ping for the next pre-alpha build of Win8ToVista?
sure, just send me a friend request and dm it
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 26/12/2022 20:12
about that
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we're already friends lol
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oh lol
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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes 26/12/2022 20:12
so yay
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shows how often i use discord
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at least for dming people
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i only use this server pretty much
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